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Date:      Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:02:48 -0500
From:      David Alanis <canito@dalan.us>
To:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, canito@dalan.us
Subject:   Re: Stop Adobe Flash Petition
Message-ID:  <20080927180248.3094dc20@lalisee>
In-Reply-To: <200808041127.m74BRqOM070802@lurza.secnetix.de>
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.64.0808040049180.20268@sea.ntplx.net> <200808041127.m74BRqOM070802@lurza.secnetix.de>

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On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:27:52 +0200 (CEST)
Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de> wrote:

> Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org> wrote:
>  > Conrad J. Sabatier wrote:
>  > > nawcom <nawcom@nawcom.com> wrote:
>  > > > I checked out the flash at the University of Utah site, and I must say
>  > > > it is impressive for gnash. Looks like that swf was made with Flash 7,
>  > > > or at least that's its minimum requirement. Unfortunately, gnash has a
>  > > > while to go, as it will never be in a satisfactory state until - it
>  > > > loads YouTube videos. Yes, ridiculous, but true, since I'm sure that is
>  > > > one of the many flash sites that people want to load. :(
>  > > 
>  > > I've watched YouTube videos with Gnash, even with version 0.8.3.  Not
>  > > *all* of them worked, mind you, but quite a substantial number.
>  > > 
>  > > Here's one of my favorites (a real hoot, actually; a "translation", with
>  > > accompanying "visual aids", of what Joe Cocker was actually singing at
>  > > Woodstock) :-) :
>  > > 
>  > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4_MsrsKzMM
>  > 
>  > I've got 3 computers and gnash only works fairly well with youtube
>  > videos on one of the computers (a laptop with an Intel 945GM, on
>  > an ATI radeon mobility M7 7500 and a Matrox MGA G200 it does not).
>  > Not sure why.  Some basic flash videos work fine in all 3, but
>  > some flash files only work on the Intel 945GM-based laptop.
>  > All 3 computers are running identical 8.0-current and ports
>  > (all ports were built on one of the systems and packaged, then
>  > installed on the other 2).  This is gnash-devel.
> 
> Just in case this is useful for somebody ...  There is
> a small conmmandline tool to download youtube videos:
> ports/www/youtube_dl.  Given the URL it downloads the
> video into a .flv file that can be played with mplayer
> or other standalone video players.  Sure, it's not the
> same as watching the video inside the browser page, but
> it's better than nothing.
> 
> Best regards
>    Oliver
> 
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Thanks, for letting us know of the youtube_dl. Are there any updates to this thread, having improvements? I have gnash 0.8.3 and flash_plugin for mozilla but can't get sound to work 7.0-on RELEASE-p4. I'll just have to wait till someone comes up with a better solution. 

Conrad, how is what you described different than installing gnash from ports?:

"Today, I fetched the repo sources for the "HEAD" version of gnash, built
and installed it, and I must say, it's working far better than the
latest release version (0.8.3).  Sites that wouldn't work properly
before are now displaying beautifully.  Here's a good example of a site
that would break before, but works now:"



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