From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Dec 20 09:21:02 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38BFEA1CBD for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8292A64553 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id f140so8362303wmd.2 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 01:21:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=GtL3tbK4JrSvNUyaEI+SJR3BXMABvJmYXeUopT2xT7s=; b=sL5CFy5rFoxOP0B6bQMV1qlYnM7aZ6THIj8Fzz0OUni54AgiE8L4rSBGZJPQPL5G+p AGyvywdcctEVjLxTsaBYV7PgILtvmAACQ2JF+4UYRWwIiTP7G+CUtVOF4djPRto6e7o9 Yi2zY0+y1fEb3HkzehNnjCZ6q3IfS2R73ZI4H+Hvik0EZAM5Z+fcgb0/uJAjT0IoX7qe ImGtw2Xrhfc0xYXCyLJACfDT740auN2RTIkJLtBdSq0Fy6naV1dIWk4T4XTcFONwh0+M 5QAl7LHNnsOG10bppylKzTnOhIve+fyzX0YEzgshQECe5Rey6Hoiknb1fMnnN4PrW73i JadA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=GtL3tbK4JrSvNUyaEI+SJR3BXMABvJmYXeUopT2xT7s=; b=hJ62A0Gy3bMJum0tteYchVfPV9MQtLC4QxA7Ls9OLciV5xqOGbgGw8rU7vYctsNEpT HccKtSmZtRdz1dOeJ9KLr484qpKCordsLJxfwHIICz+mwCFZltOY8lqMV66B0b7WSA7I wrCpFLlZDsuPFcLutoGg2cMWEIcvtzJ8qwBWXhueDAekxm2EkggWdyHIJmdwsI8PzGYX yBMPkGnyxiwPGdK/AtPnA3hUyk8/HxXEodRzKM70mmB/lWSqEHLJRs2RRzvWkEogG4yk NMKPD8RLKGCFCRbrIQhE43MKTWmizsdQAyUxVqBb7mxaOSauepwGJ3Jw0Xv3zIxG251r /8dA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKnJ4Lkyk14cEMcdUFTNO+G0MOCZQ9ZvH1hVoZkoehlcghpdVYd YPHkZbKVvj9EYW3FL6chf438MVqIMjN0WV2BGseJyg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBospWekC8mNJrbtN+VNxMp3rZoorrrrHXbU5zGGirEeK0/kc02BQ81/nJig43mtxFMDy2UayYMxUAPbhbhjKCnA= X-Received: by 10.28.92.146 with SMTP id q140mr6581156wmb.41.1513761660796; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 01:21:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.197.68 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 01:20:20 -0800 (PST) From: Johannes Lundberg Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:20:20 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Vote: making wayland=on default To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:21:03 -0000 Hi I want to suggest that we enable wayland by default. In current state having some parts of wayland in ports is basically useless the end-users themselves re-build gtk30 and mesa-libs with wayland enabled. libwayland-egl.so from mesa-libs and the extra libraries and headers from gtk30 adds like a few KB, a drop in the ocean compared to xorg packages. (might be something more that I missed) Personally I see no reason not to make it default on, even with flavors coming up. For any Desktop user (as well as embedded devices like IVI-systems and whatnot), Wayland is the future. There's no escaping that. Wayland has been quite usable on FreeBSD for over a year now but access to it is limited due to the extra efforts required to use it. If we are to compare with the other guys, several Linux distros are already switching to wayland-based compositors as default window server. What do you think? /Johannes