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Date:      Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:22:46 +0300
From:      veedee@c7.campus.utcluj.ro
To:        security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Time to look put more resources into FreeSSH ?
Message-ID:  <20020625112246.A30267@c7.campus.utcluj.ro>
In-Reply-To: <20020625004019.W5916-100000@walter>; from jason-fbsd-security@shalott.net on Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 12:51:56AM -0700
References:  <200206250632.QAA02400@caligula.anu.edu.au> <20020625004019.W5916-100000@walter>

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On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 12:51:56AM -0700, Jason Stone wrote:
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> > What do others think about creating a little "bio-diversity" and
> > moving from OpenSSH to FreeSSH at some point in the future as the
> > "default" ssh installed ?
> 
> I'm very much in favor of "biodiversity," but if you're talking about
> FreSSH (fressh.org), then, as far as I'm aware, it's a) only v1, and b)
> pretty dead.
true.
"FreSSH currently implements SSH protocol version 1.5..."
(http://www.fressh.org/ main page).

> Personally, I'm exploring the feasibility of non-ssh alternatives
> (ssl-wrapped versions of telnet/rsh/etc, enterprise-wide ipsec and
> telnet/rsh/etc, etc...).  Does anyone have any other ideas along these
> lines?
i think i read some threads about that some months ago. you might want to
search the archives first.

> But yeah, definitely biodiversity.  ssh has embraced and extended rsh to
> the point where people depend on all sorts of features that are unique to
> ssh (and aren't even directly security related), and openssh is really the
> only mature, featureful, supported and free implementation out there, so
> when stuff like this comes up, we're really pretty helpless....
Just wanna say that if you are NOT falling into the "commercial category",
ssh.com's server might be a better alternative than openssh (less buggy).
I've been using it for years. Their latest version is 3.2.0
(http://www.ssh.com/products/ssh/download.cfm). 
# uname -a 
sshd2: SSH Secure Shell 3.2.0 (non-commercial version) on
i386-unknown-freebsd4.6

For the rest of you though, OpenSSH is all you got if you want v2. :/

veedee.

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