From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 21 11:21:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA14281 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 11:21:56 -0800 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA14276 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 11:21:54 -0800 Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.20.4]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.1/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id LAA07280 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 11:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id NAA06464; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 13:14:22 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199511211914.NAA06464@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE now available! To: jmb@kryten.atinc.com (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 13:14:21 -0600 (CST) Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, jkh@time.cdrom.com, roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Nov 21, 95 10:07:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > While I am not willing to maintain mailing lists at the moment, I > > can I can check here if people agrees to allocate resources (disk) > > for an FTP server. Apart from computing resources, how much disk > > space do you think we need to provide for this ? > > disk space requirements are minimal, but for /var/spool/mqueue. > disk required for /var/spool/mqueue will vary by number of subscribers > and quanitity of mail. here are the numbers for freefall.freebsd.org. > > majordomo binaries, scripts 3.1 MB > lists, configs, etc 1.5 MB > bulk_mailer, binaries, source 0.1 MB > peter's multi-queue 0.2 MB > mail queues 3.6 MB > ------- > 8.5 MB I've always been willing to (and actually intended to) set up a local lists exploder here at sol.net. Originally, I had intended for it to be a tool for local use, but again, this is a great example of Yet Another Something we out here in the Real World can do on a larger scale to make Freefall's life easier. My secondary mail server, mail2.sol.net, is a 486DX/33 with 32MB of RAM and a reasonably large amount of disk. It sits there most of the time bored out of its mind, spinning its disk. > df -k Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on [...] /dev/sd0s1g 98479 13508 77092 15% /var /dev/sd0s1h 108719 30 99991 0% /var/spool This is a sad waste of a machine, but I believe in redundancy, so the secondary server sits there and also runs X, amanda, ftp.freebsd.sol.net, my SUP archive, kerberos service, and all sorts of stuff - AND IS STILL 90% IDLE ON AVERAGE :-) (Gawd I just love FreeBSD!!!!) Maybe if we had several list exploders here in the continental US (Eastern, Southern, Midwestern, West Coast?) we could take some load off of freefall. If there is any such interest, I have the resources and will to set up something here to serve the Midwest. Aside: ftp.freebsd.sol.net isn't really getting pounded too hard but people ARE using it.... > w 1:10PM up 1 day, 21:51, 2 users, load averages: 0.09, 0.07, 0.02 [...] > /usr/local/bin/ftpwho Service class local: - 0 users ( 10 maximum) Service class remote: [...] - 2 users ( 10 maximum) ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847