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Date:      Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:42:20 +0700
From:      "Outback Dingo" <outbackdingo@gmail.com>
To:        "Wesley Shields" <wxs@freebsd.org>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org, Paul Schmehl <pauls@utdallas.edu>, Mark Foster <mark@foster.cc>
Subject:   Re: Ports Request: OpenNMS
Message-ID:  <5635aa0d0804111142y209b4c5bm57fcf00404f63d@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20080411183431.GA47365@atarininja.org>
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First thing to determine is if all the pices could actually be made to run
on freeBSd before even considering a port of it, has anyone gotten OpenNMS
to actually run on FreeBSD ?

On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Wesley Shields <wxs@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:08:51PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> > --On Friday, April 11, 2008 10:33:26 -0700 Mark Foster <mark@foster.cc>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Paul Schmehl wrote:
> >>> If you're really serious that you want OpenNMS ported, then it's time
> >>> to make your contribution to FreeBSD.  :-)  Solicit help from other
> >>> FreeBSD users who use/want OpenNMS, and work together to distribute
> >>> the load and get the job done.  There's plenty of people on this list
> >>> who can help you when you run into problems.
> >>>
> >> I couldn't agree more!
> >> But for the last statement. I have to say I've been underwhelmed with
> the
> >> amount of maintainership support I have received from this
> >> (ports@freebsd.org) list. Perhaps it's just me, I know the ports-mgr
> are also
> >> very busy. Or in other cases the answer is just unknown.
> >> So, as a maintainer I tend to ask google before bugging the list. Is a
> >> dedicated maintainer-support list  something discussed before?
>
> If you're having a specific problem with a port you should ask the
> maintainer about it.  Maintainers are not _required_ to subscribe to
> this list, though it is a good idea.  If the port is unmaintained you
> will either have to ask her for help on what is going wrong or fix it
> yourself (sad, but true).  We try to be as helpful as possible here but
> you can't please everyone all the time.  :)
>
> > I think this *is* the dedicated maintainer-support list.  :-)
> >
> > It's been my experience that most of the questions I ask here are fairly
> > dumb and easily answered with a little research.  Perhaps that's why
> some
> > are slow to answer?  :-)
> >
> > I discussed, one time, on this list, updating the porting handbook to
> more
> > accurately describe the process, but that too requires some work and a
> PR,
> > so I just haven't gotten to it yet.  (Which I suspect is everyone's
> > problem.)
>
> The porter's handbook is a great resource, but it could certainly use
> some cleanup and better organization.  I'd be happy to work with anyone
> interested in brainstorming ideas and getting them implemented.  Either
> on a new thread or privately.
>
> > I try to help when I can, but I defer to more knowledgeable folks in
> most
> > cases.  I know that my porting skills have improved greatly since I
> first
> > started and *much* of what I've learned has come from other ports.  If
> you
> > want to know how to do a port, study the existing ports - especially
> ones
> > that are fairly complex, because those are *usually* done by very
> > knowledgeable people. (Mine are all relatively simple, mind you.)
>
> Yes, looking at existing ports is a great resource.  If they can't give
> you the right answer then asking here or Google will certainly get you
> the right answer.
>
> -- WXS
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