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Date:      Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:08:59 -0400
From:      Jung-uk Kim <jkim@FreeBSD.org>
To:        freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        Stephen Montgomery-Smith <stephen@missouri.edu>, Pav Lucistnik <pav@freebsd.org>, Stephen Montgomery-Smith <stephen@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [RFC] A trivial change for DESKTOP_ENTRIES
Message-ID:  <201107131309.02454.jkim@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <201107131304.35636.jkim@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201107121826.00020.jkim@FreeBSD.org> <4E1DCB00.2030906@missouri.edu> <201107131304.35636.jkim@FreeBSD.org>

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On Wednesday 13 July 2011 01:04 pm, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 July 2011 12:42 pm, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
> > On 07/13/2011 10:41 AM, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 13 July 2011 07:39 am, Pav Lucistnik wrote:
> > >> On 2011/07/13 00:25, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
> > >>> After I updated x11-wm/compiz, GNOME was not able to start
> > >>> the window manager.  Basically, it complained that
> > >>> compiz-manager was not found. Then, I realized
> > >>> compiz-manager.desktop was automagically replaced by
> > >>> compizmanager.desktop.  Now I tracked it down to this commit:
> > >>>
> > >>> Sat Nov 27 17:42:46 2010 UTC (7 months, 2 weeks ago) by pav
> > >>>
> > >>> - DESKTOP_ENTRIES: commandline is used to name installed
> > >>> .desktop file, this can lead to files containing whitespace
> > >>> and funny characters; thus strip all non-alphanumeric
> > >>> characters
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk.di
> > >>>ff ?r 1=1.656;r2=1.657
> > >>>
> > >>> To me, it looks far too restrictive.  At least, I'd like to
> > >>> allow '-' and '_'.  Please see the attached patch.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any objections?
> > >>
> > >> Shouldn't you fix whatever is trying to call compizmanager not
> > >> to use .desktop file instead?
> > >
> > > GNOME session manager calls the compiz-manager, i.e., the user
> > > has to change it manually.  Actually, x11-wm/compiz/pkg-message
> > > recommended this:
> > >
> > > "If you are using gnome, you can use the configuration editor
> > > to set the value of:
> > >
> > > desktop->gnome->session->required_components->windowmanager =
> > > compiz-manager
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > > This will enable compiz as your default window manager."
> > >
> > > I am quite sure there are similar instructions on the net.
> > >
> > > Jung-uk Kim
> >
> > Also, bsd.ports.mk shouldn't change what the port tells it to do,
> > without informing anybody.
>
> Exactly.
>
> > I'm sure it took Jung-uk Kim many hours to figure out why it
> > wasn't working.  Other users are going to be in a similar spot. 
> > Many users will never figure it out.
>
> Sssssh...  Please don't tell it to my employee. ;-P
                                        ^^^^^^^^
                                        employer
I am not there yet. :-(

Jung-uk Kim

> It only took me about 1/2 hour.  But you're right; average users
> may misinterpret unrelated commits (such as yours) and think it
> broke their desktop environment after updating ports.



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