From owner-freebsd-arch Fri Mar 16 7:10:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DBB37B718; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:10:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f2GFAeu13536; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:10:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:10:40 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Chris Dillon Cc: Steve Kargl , Jordan Hubbard , arch@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO MORE '-BETA' Message-ID: <20010316071040.V29888@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20010315201500.A2484@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 08:49:41AM -0600 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Chris Dillon [010316 06:50] wrote: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 07:40:29PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > Hmm. I've yet to get *any* mail about BETA scaring people, and we've > > > been doing them for literally years at this point. I suspect you're > > > overreacting somewhat to Saverio Perugini's recent mail in -stable, > > > but I'll nonetheless entertain any suggestions on what I could call > > > the "pre-RC" releases without confusing them with snapshots, which > > > occur every day anyway, or the actual release. > > > > > > > Drop by the newsgroup. There was a thread last week about someone > > using cvsup expecting to get 4.2-stable and he got 4.3-beta. He > > was annoyed and confused because he thought beta meant "beta > > quality" (as in inferior software). > > I've heard that quite often on IRC as well. Sometimes to fix a > problem I tell someone to upgrade to -STABLE, which happens to be > 4.3-BETA at this time. I get the usual "BETA!?!?" response, whereby I > have to explain that FreeBSD's "BETA" is nothing like, say, > Microsoft's "BETA". I don't think its a big problem, just that it > might discourage a few more freebsd-newbie users from using it than it > would if it weren't called "BETA". Ok, so we have reports of confusion on the mailing lists, usenet and IRC. Jordan, where can I pick up a set those blinders you have on? -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message