From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 21 15:52:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAF0106564A; Thu, 21 May 2009 15:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C088FC12; Thu, 21 May 2009 15:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42B5546B2D; Thu, 21 May 2009 11:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.hudson-trading.com (unknown [209.249.190.8]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1164E8A026; Thu, 21 May 2009 11:52:52 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: George Neville-Neil Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:48:13 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20090521.085256.-1989816394.imp@bsdimp.com> <552187D6-D700-4BFE-BCA3-8EDC29E7DC5B@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <552187D6-D700-4BFE-BCA3-8EDC29E7DC5B@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905211148.14036.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Thu, 21 May 2009 11:52:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: chat@freebsd.org, "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: svn commit: r192398 - in head/usr.bin: . perror X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 15:52:54 -0000 On Thursday 21 May 2009 11:11:12 am George Neville-Neil wrote: > > On May 21, 2009, at 10:52 , M. Warner Losh wrote: > > > In message: <20090521110115.GA50355@FreeBSD.org> > > Alexey Dokuchaev writes: > > : > Given how easy it is to "grep <> /usr/include/sys/ > > errno.h" or > > : > perl -e '$! = <>; print "$!\n";' > > : > I'm not sure of the utility of this tool. > > : > > : User scripts should not depend on presence of system include files. > > : Now, just to mention, Nick's suggestion about dropping extra noise > > : actually good one. > > > > There's also internationalization that actually happens too, right? > > That doesn't happen with grep.. > > Sorry to not jump in sooner, but I just wanted to say... > > The reason for this program is that it makes it easier for sysadmins > and script > writers to make sense of programs which they do not control the source > for. > The program will continue to work no matter how we expand or change > errno.h. > > Best, > George > > PS I'd like to paint it red. ____ _ / ___|_ __ ___ ___ _ __ | | | | _| '__/ _ \/ _ \ '_ \| | | |_| | | | __/ __/ | | |_| \____|_| \___|\___|_| |_(_) -- John Baldwin