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Date:      Wed, 3 Jul 2013 18:09:00 -0500
From:      Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com>
To:        Berend de Boer <berend@pobox.com>
Cc:        freebsd-fs <freebsd-fs@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: EBS snapshot backups from a FreeBSD zfs file system: zpool freeze?
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On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Berend de Boer <berend@pobox.com> wrote:

> >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Palmer <gpalmer@freebsd.org> writes:
>
>     Gary> Other than using SAN (FC or iSCSI), I know of no reason to
>     Gary> do backups at the raw disk level, nor any real demand.
>
> Probably the hundreds of thousands of businesses that use Amazon AWS
> disagree :-)
>

Well, that would be a SAN backup wouldn't it :) (Not NAS as you cited
earlier)


>     Gary> However, in the vast majority of cases, people back up from
>     Gary> above the FS, not below.  This makes your use case probably
>     Gary> more tied to EBS than you may otherwise think.
>
> People generally didn't have a choice I would say. Now millions of
> servers run on top of block storage.
>

"People generally" don't use Amazon and especially EBS.  Servers have
pretty much always run on block storage.


> Disks are just software. That's the new world.


No matter how much you wish hard drive to be software they are still hard
drives.

-- 
Adam Vande More



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