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Date:      Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:30:49 -0500
From:      Mitch Collinsworth <mkc@Graphics.Cornell.EDU>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        "Allen Pulsifer" <pulsifer@mediaone.net>, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Is 4.0-iso checksum right? [was: iso-image ] 
Message-ID:  <200003271630.LAA47410@larryboy.graphics.cornell.edu>
In-Reply-To: Message from "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>  of "Fri, 24 Mar 2000 19:46:38 PST." <24701.953955998@zippy.cdrom.com> 

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Personally I'd prefer to see both.  I don't care if you say 4.0a or
4.0.1 or 4.0(1) or 4.0-20000327 or however you want to say it.  I just
think that if something is important enough to warrant a change then
it's important enough to point it out in the release designation.
Adding the changelog is a great idea.  That makes it possible to find
out _what_ changed, which then makes it possible to determine if one
actually cares which release they have.  And perhaps more importantly,
if they encounter a problem they can see that it is/isn't fixed in the
next release.  Same as the old concept of "release notes".

-Mitch


>I don't really like the "4.0a" since that's still not truly indicative
>of anything besides "change" - what about a changelog to accompany the
>image?  When you see a new changelog entry and a new checksum next to
>it (I'd merge changelog and checksum information), you can compare to
>see which revision you have and what changes were done subsequently.
>
>- Jordan
>
>> That's not a bad idea.
>> 
>> How about it Jordan?  Is there some way of distinguishing the various
>> iterations of ISO image that are produced as you try to roll a good
>> release?  Maybe you could put a single letter suffix after the name,
>> such as, "4.0a-install.iso", "4.0b-install.iso", etc.?
>> That would also help identify the exact file to which
>> checksum.md5 is referring.
>> 
>> Allen
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Mitch Collinsworth [mailto:mkc@Graphics.Cornell.EDU]
>> > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 7:06 PM
>> > To: Allen Pulsifer
>> > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG
>> > Subject: Re: Is 4.0-iso checksum right? [was: iso-image ] 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >I started a download from ftp.freebsd.org this Tues, and it took about
>> > >24 hours to complete.  The checksum matched up ok, but it looks like
>> > >the ISO image has changed since then.
>> > 
>> > yep, that's it.  my checksum matches the old file.  guess I should have
>> > grabbed the checksum file first.  :-)  I hadn't notice the date change.
>> > 
>> > That's one thing that just doesn't make sense to me about the way fbsd
>> > releases are being managed.  I have absolutely no problem with the
>> > release being re-done for just about any reason they think is
>> > justifiable.  But there really should be a field somewhere in the
>> > version/release number to allow distinguishing between one and another.
>> > Anything that's important enough to warrant re-issueing  the release is
>> > obviously important enough to have a number to indicate the version you
>> > have has that revision in it.
>> > 
>> > -Mitch
>



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