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Date:      Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:21:51 +1000 (EST)
From:      Ian Smith <>
To:        Polytropon <>
Cc:        Warren Block <>, "Steve O'Hara-Smith" <>,
Subject:   Re: Restoring sc console look and feel with vt
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 20:03:15 +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 > On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 02:37:15 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith wrote:

 > > That is, check /usr/src/sys/boot/efi/loader/arch/amd64/framebuffer.c

 > So it's not a surprise that my particular testing installation
 > does not have a "gop" command in the loader. I'm using FreeBSD
 > 10.3 (patched) i386 on a machine with BIOS (not UEFI).

Yeah, sorry.  I see now that your first message in this thread said:

 > Experimental system is FreeBSD/i386 10.3-p22 (held current with
 > freebsd-update).

but not again till now, so it had slipped my mind (easily done :)

I've since checked that 11.1 won't help you in this respect either.

Are you sure there's no way to use sc(4) with X on 10.3?  We saw lots 
about getting proper console switching going (again) using vt and X on 
the stable@ list on earlier 10.x, but I can't recall any details, since 
sc still works fine on my 9.3 (amd64) system, where vt(4) first became 
available, including proper suspend/resume support from ttyvN or from X.

But that's using a much older X (and everything else), so I wouldn't 
want to lend you any false hope at this stage ..

cheers, Ian

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