From owner-freebsd-net Sat Dec 1 13:26:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (wall-gw.polstra.com [206.213.73.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D57937B417; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fB1LQP086355; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:26:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id fB1LQOu79138; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:26:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:26:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112012126.fB1LQOu79138@vashon.polstra.com> To: net@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: billf@mu.org Subject: Re: funding TCP stack rewrite In-Reply-To: <20011130120008.G32521@elvis.mu.org> References: <20011130103652.Z75389@prism.flugsvamp.com> <20011130120008.G32521@elvis.mu.org> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <20011130120008.G32521@elvis.mu.org>, Bill Fumerola wrote: > the freebsd foundation is supposed to be an a not-for-profit > organization that (amongst other things) delegates donated money to > developers for this kind of work. at their current speed, they will > be ready to provide such a service in the year 2018. Bill, it's a real shame you felt the need to fire off one of your uninformed potshots like this. The FreeBSD Foundation has in fact been working very actively on finalizing the license with Sun Microsystems for a FreeBSD version of the Java Development Kit. This involves lawyers on both sides, and a lot of back and forth. The folks at Sun have been very reasonable, but they need to protect Sun's interests just as we need to protect the FreeBSD project's interests. Hence it takes some time to get the terms of the license just right as far as both sides are concerned. We think we are getting pretty close to having it all wrapped up. We have deliberately held back from asking for more donations in the meantime, because we'd like to be able to show the community that we've accomplished something valuable for the project with the contributions we've already received. We chose the JDK license as our first project because it is something that will benefit a lot of FreeBSD users and it requires legally-recognized entities (which the Foundation is) as parties to the license agreement. We obviously don't have the resources to tackle a dozen projects at once yet, so we are focusing our efforts. You can rest assured that, with the support of the FreeBSD community, we will be funding worthwhile development efforts in the future too. John Polstra Vice President The FreeBSD Foundation To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message