Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 17:03:49 -0500 From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> To: Eric McCorkle <eric@metricspace.net> Cc: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, freebsd-security <freebsd-security@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Status of OpenSSL 1.1.1 Message-ID: <20180804220349.GJ68224@kduck.kaduk.org> In-Reply-To: <b058b0ad-2e61-8756-b984-8a762e4a7925@metricspace.net> References: <b7b8a27c-b520-dcba-e7eb-fa3fa2d78083@metricspace.net> <CANCZdfpRSxKAvW=X2Fh5OM3ZxzkhPxC3ooOgLpogkMUdwpumRg@mail.gmail.com> <dc890dce-59b0-4647-268b-6035e8fbfd31@metricspace.net> <20180802234519.GD68224@kduck.kaduk.org> <CANCZdfqqHk1k_WuDHg3Tob2m-Egbns9X4jq5eAaQu1tzgz1nwA@mail.gmail.com> <b058b0ad-2e61-8756-b984-8a762e4a7925@metricspace.net>
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On Fri, Aug 03, 2018 at 07:02:18AM -0400, Eric McCorkle wrote: > On 08/03/2018 04:44, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu > > <mailto:kaduk@mit.edu>> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 10:05:28AM -0400, Eric McCorkle wrote: > > > On 08/01/2018 09:02, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 12:31 PM Eric McCorkle > > <eric@metricspace.net <mailto:eric@metricspace.net> > > > > <mailto:eric@metricspace.net <mailto:eric@metricspace.net>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > > > I'm wondering what's the status of OpenSSL 1.1.1 integration > > into base? > > > > More specifically, is there a repo or a branch that's > > started the > > > > integration? I'm aware of the wiki page and the list of > > port build > > > > issues, but that seems to be based on replacing the base > > OpenSSL with a > > > > port build (similar to the way one replaces it with LibreSSL). > > > > > > > > I have some work I'd like to do that's gating on sorting out the > > > > kernel/loader crypto situation, and I'd very much like to > > see OpenSSL > > > > 1.1.1 get merged, so I can start to look into doing that. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are patches to use bear SSL for the loader. OpenSSL is > > simply too > > > > large to use due to limits the loader operates under. > > > > > > I was going to look into the feasibility of doing something like what > > > LibreSSL does with portable, where they extract a subset of the full > > > library designed to be embedded in the kernel, loader, etc. > > > > > > I think it ought to be possible to do something like that, but it > > really > > > ought to be done in a tree with 1.1.1 integrated. > > > > > > > It wouldn't be terribly easy or effective, IMO. OpenSSL wasn't designed > > with such modularity in mind. > > > > > > Others that have tried have found OpenSSL to be way too large for the > > boot loader and a completely impossible to subset enough to get things > > small enough due to the intertwingled nature of things. > > To what extent, if any, does this change in 1.1.1, though? > Probably not enough -- while libssl got a bit reorganized, libcrypto hasn't changed much. -Ben
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