From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Oct 13 22:31:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA23689 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from unix.tfs.net (root@unix.tfs.net [199.79.146.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA23682 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbryant@argus.tfs.net) Received: from argus.tfs.net (as1-p1.tfs.net [139.146.205.1]) by unix.tfs.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA05853; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:30:53 -0500 Received: (from jbryant@localhost) by argus.tfs.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id AAA02530; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:31:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Bryant Message-Id: <199710140531.AAA02530@argus.tfs.net> Subject: Re: C2 Trusted FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199710140424.XAA17794@nospam.hiwaay.net> from "dkelly@hiwaay.net" at "Oct 13, 97 11:24:27 pm" To: dkelly@hiwaay.net Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:31:02 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Reply-to: jbryant@tfs.net X-Windows: R00LZ!@# MS-Winbl0wz DR00LZ!@# X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE #0: Wed Jul 9 01:01:24 CDT 1997 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply: > (why hasn't this moved completely to freebsd-security?) > > Christopher Petrilli writes: > > > > But what about when you have 10,000 users, and you need 486 of them to > > not have access? Do you see the issue of performance slowly creeping up > > when yyou have 50,000 groups? This becomes a hideous nightmare. > > Just because its a hideous nightmare doesn't mean it doesn't meet spec. :-) > > Remember, for the most part we're talking about security specs brought to > you by the same government that would limit cryptography to key escrow > techniques. the same government that managed to keep the f117a under wraps for 25 years... despite all of the spies posing as ufo geeks at groom lake... jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inet: jbryant@tfs.net AX.25: kc5vdj@wv0t.#neks.ks.usa.noam grid: EM28pw voice: KC5VDJ - 6 & 2 Meters AM/FM/SSB, 70cm FM. http://www.tfs.net/~jbryant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HF/6M/2M: IC-706-MkII, 2M: HTX-212, 2M: HTX-202, 70cm: HTX-404, Packet: KPC-3+