From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 14:30:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6BC1065675 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@freebsd.org) Received: from nm17-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm17-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 478588FC0C for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.69] by nm17.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2012 14:30:15 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.13] by tm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2012 14:30:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2012 14:30:15 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 137173.80161.bm@omp1013.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 83552 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jun 2012 14:30:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1340807414; bh=aAaq79ZpZpDQW1zJDj+vnbOgq469j9I8d1u6ZK9SqPo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VA0qcVUtanJ1ild+YcQClH5HN2PVQ3kQIgl8TddC9z6AuzEuz26FIISIoAZzNR/UG53fyrhnG9mEyIEF4BUminnvxFpJtUrlbAKZjF79sdNn0ZhpS8p7D9N5qbZ3+kF2DCFFT50zGnSq4H2V0/F8xfEKKqbsrFYV19hIBfoKDB0= X-YMail-OSG: D65XvV4VM1kyCTuFi6ERiDH5u9CrnlE3hhRI7uSDfOb1sxx _69Ptj2nD7amOwWZF9AT0UXppgFCRPCNvnlEUpWXW6PGPffBqL0_BR_kxi6u nIf2_q0ZpOC9y5ttV0plxBoRM9OtjyRSMQJnH3awXSZl1t7KuqlHKeLecX7w uXV78CfFtzflOIbNO2ozqW5qKj7xiqkgDn0waM6R_71yGHA6zNVpVpe8xwPo MUXGShUdZHJgyZ_NpZb6LR9yKt58ogQ.WOmM_nR1C5pyQcO2y4CZGjxq47SP 9Zw_85uR8EJ2NgfPzXpm8PUU.JO_K9ft8QvdQGw.3L8flyyeifZgjeKdbFTF cggcldM1G6LStJyUr5bb_VwwXEOQhIoB2IEuiK4Kmil3RLIqyawDoST0Enbx hr94oFks.twBUAjHq9SHOsZs0dbcG9bWV2VirQe6P8eYzXwOX4CFuMr5CZL4 B8bzE Received: from [200.118.157.7] by web113515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:30:13 PDT X-RocketYMMF: giffunip X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524 Message-ID: <1340807413.83238.YahooMailClassic@web113515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:30:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Giffuni To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <4FEAE76F.8080008@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] BSD sort is the default sort in -CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pfg@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:30:15 -0000 =0A=0A--- Mer 27/6/12, Doug Barton ha scritto:=0A...=0A= > =0A> > I believe we do not=0A> > make this kind of work with any vendor c= ode that is=0A> being updated in the=0A> > base;=0A> =0A> Au contraire, we = frequently avoid updating the old versions=0A> of things we have in the bas= e precisely because they are=0A> not bug-for-bug compatible with existing b= ehaviors that we=0A> count on.=0A>=0A=0A=0AReally?? I guess you are speakin= g for bind, because the idea=0Abehind updating and piece of software is pre= cisely shaking=0Abugs. New functionality counts but fixing bugs takes the= =0Apriority. We have three serious bug reports concerning=0AGNU sort and I = even submitted an update but no one cared=0Ato apply it.=0A=0AI would think= only the maintainer of the package has the=0Aauthority to make any request= in the lines of being=0Abug-for-bug compatible and in the case of GNU sort= and=0AGNU grep they are both unmaintained and replacements=0Aare welcome.= =0A=0APlease let's stop being an obstacle towards people=0Abringing real pr= ogress to FreeBSD!=0A=0APedro.=0A