Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:13:23 +0100 From: Paul Robinson <paul@iconoplex.co.uk> To: Dean Strik <dean@stack.nl> Cc: FreeBSD Chat <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: RMS says: "Use BSD, for goodness sake!" Message-ID: <20030630111322.GS57378@iconoplex.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20030630080853.GB42783@dragon.stack.nl> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030625214311.00e5e240@localhost> <20030626110336.GW34365@iconoplex.co.uk> <20030626113553.GA53078@packet.org.uk> <20030626122023.GB763@nitro.dk> <20030626124601.GB57378@iconoplex.co.uk> <3EFBFEBD.B8772772@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030627133739.035722d0@localhost> <20030628052710.GK29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030630080252.GK57378@iconoplex.co.uk> <20030630080853.GB42783@dragon.stack.nl>
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 10:08:53AM +0200, Dean Strik wrote: > I would ask you not to consider 4.x as a reference platform. Use 5.x > instead. Fair enough. > No hostility I'm sure but merely the statement that degnuification is > not as much of an issue as you'd like it to be. Statements like that, quite frankly, piss me off. Refine the statement to "degnuification may be important to some people, but it isn't to me" and your ego may benefit. I'm sure it's not your intention to sound a touch self-centred, but look at the bigger picture. Quite frankly, the people who have the power to invest in the project (read: pay for people to work on it full time) would almost certainly welcome as little of the project as possible to rely on GPL code. In an ideal world, 0% of base would be GPL. This is not hard to do. We've now proven the only bits that are difficult can be moved to ports with the exception of gcc (and even that could be moved out to ports only). We're talking about half a dozen apps at most. So why the "no, let's not do it" attitude? It's a minor task. It may help bring money into the project. I just DON'T GET IT! I'm going mad. I've had so much mail over this, I just don't care any more. I've been reading mail sent off-list effectively calling me a wanker since 8:30 this morning, even though not a single one of them addresses a single solitary point I've already raised. I don't have a commit bit, I don't really want one right now. I'm just going to do my own thing here on my own builds. You guys do whatever you want. You know, the package stuff that was being talked about the other week. If that works the way it could do, this argument wouldn't need to exist. I regret to inform that for me at least, correspondance on this topic is now closed. Any more of the bulls**t I've been sent this morning goes to /dev/null. Let's kill this now. -- Paul Robinson
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