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Date:      Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:48:35 +0200
From:      Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Cc:        "Steven E. Ames" <steve@virtual-voodoo.com>, Soren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>, Boris Popov <bp@butya.kz>, Valentin Chopov <valentin@valcho.net>, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: CURRENT is freezing again ... 
Message-ID:  <2967.974461715@axl.fw.uunet.co.za>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:42:51 PST." <20001116104251.D830@fw.wintelcom.net> 

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On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:42:51 PST, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> I would try a new kernel, and perhaps some collabaration with John
> to debug these problems rather than just complaining about the
> situation.  I see at least two experianced developers in the CC
> list, there's no reason for these poor bug reports.

The problem with a hard lock-up out of which you can't escape into the
debugger is that it makes meaningful bug reports impossible.  My non-SMP
workstation has exhibited apparently arbitrary lock-ups since the advent
of SMPng.

I thought I was the only one, since my question on the freebsd-current
mailing list went unanswered.

From my understanding, John's WITNESS code allows us to break into the
debugger from within interrupt context.  If the lock-ups are happening
in there, then this may help us provide better bug reports.

Oh, and a couple of deep breaths are probably in order. :-)

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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