From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 09:15:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC1BBD; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787668FC0C; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f54.google.com with SMTP id jf20so1557594bkc.13 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:15:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0Pu35tmM3A9eIn47xp8pVKaUju8XWPImiNfj4QAfck0=; b=qbIxSw1Wz5EnxHxRtTcFxwj6JcY9K31OPlqKF3J+pJ5KcKQ1GM0ew0MTyXUGAuGAMR 0sqdeXPiJimWW05UwiPsjgdX++8jjFG6QCdxq78aknnB7dckPiX5+/tbOOlT2KNZK5AL b9J/w3kuqEOCGJie4b0wpDhhWX3WRpUHZZn0hVX7ORqf9JEOg8GVVk8x/PJjovrUAJNX Ju9ETW1npie3gWDezGWIJvEx195m0u19XVAndUcZ4Ts3xAouShDeoJH5GbyTN8XS40Xb W9uJ5TBDMAdVJh2AG8zqx6bkTwkxaY5xqaUrXnuiz7LrCY+wjKIrniQAPTtptUDZD46B UR7Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.11.207 with SMTP id u15mr7897216bku.40.1351329342295; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.50.197 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.50.197 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:15:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20121026233225.54FB858094@chaos.jnpr.net> References: <201210020750.23358.jhb@freebsd.org> <201210021037.27762.jhb@freebsd.org> <127FA63D-8EEE-4616-AE1E-C39469DDCC6A@xcllnt.net> <20121025211522.GA32636@dragon.NUXI.org> <3F52B7C9-A7B7-4E0E-87D0-1E67FE5D0BA7@xcllnt.net> <20121025221244.GG3808@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20121026181152.GC44331@dragon.NUXI.org> <20121026204910.E1FFA58094@chaos.jnpr.net> <20121026233225.54FB858094@chaos.jnpr.net> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:15:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program From: Chris Rees To: "Simon J. Gerraty" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , Garrett Cooper , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Marcel Moolenaar , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 09:15:44 -0000 On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, "Simon J. Gerraty" wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:02:00 +0100, Chris Rees writes: > >In that case we have a switch time on the order of years, not weeks; 8.3 is > >supported until May '14, and unless we get a :tl etc MFC into 8, even > >longer. All this time the ports tree must work with pmake. > > I'm pretty sure I was told it is already in 8 and 7 Not in 8.3 at least: svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/8.3/usr.bin/make/var.c?view=log > >I don't want to discourage you or belittle your excellent work here, but > >Marcel made me very nervous with his comment on the process being "a few > >weeks". > > That was based on discussions at the last devsummit. These discussions need backing up with a real roadmap, including detail on exactly what 8.3 and 7.4 users will have to do to ensure that the ports tree still works. I don't see where these considerations have been made. Chris