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Date:      Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:07:02 +1100
From:      Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Stable List <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: ECC memory error reporting
Message-ID:  <20030217110701.GF53497@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <200302142058.h1EKwYhj059269@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <20030214070641.GV20271@techometer.net> <1045206745.4513.65.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <xzp7kc3s4ll.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20030214135928.A2869@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3E4D1323.4030005@tenebras.com> <200302142058.h1EKwYhj059269@apollo.backplane.com>

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On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:58:34PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote:
>    Find old WW2 bomber instrumentation.  The government used fairly
>    serious radioactive material in the glow-in-the-dark phospher
>    instrumentation markings.  I forget what it was exactly.
>    It isn't enough to hurt you (though bomber pilots staring at rows upon 
>    rows of these instruments for long periods of time might be a different
>    story),

The life-expectancy of a WW2 bomber pilot (at least RAF) was low
enough that it's unlikely that staring at the radium-coated
instrumentation would have made things detectably worse.  (I suspect
that you'd have needed a radiation dose in the 100-200 rem range to
show up in the statistics).

> but they should be sufficient to mess up any high density memory
>    placed in close proximity (less then an inch away).

I recall the big fuss when 64k DRAMS first appeared - the cell size
had dropped to the point where a single alpha particle could flip a
bit.  There was lots of press about which manufacturers has the best
packaging to protect against hits.  (And I suspect the biggest source
was the ceramic or CER-DIP package itself).  RAM densities are now
3 orders of magnitude higher and there's virtually no mention of
radiation dangers...

Peter

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