From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Jan 16 22:21:51 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7141F823B for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 22:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe36.google.com (mail-vs1-xe36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e36]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47zJZl4g4cz3DQl; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 22:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe36.google.com with SMTP id p6so13695145vsj.11; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:21:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pTnXxoN1c/xol8OMD/kdBFWEOdWQfn880FxaMwlCyr8=; b=hQurN1K9z/zBfiYeHZvzI6aGMj5xDCxgPjlSLScZvY63QBvf89kje4EnSBLRPdCB0b eNxlMn/lL+ycfxEC4ZzUc+DBaTpNj2VAD2TQXZ1en/CHBgS6A2cUcjr/3GfZWnR1TQbM n/ArvpGMopwu+EgE3LbbZ+vFPSNHctWeDBxT8CyU2OW4M4vK2Rpns3ZwM9t+Voyl12f0 UGhuHlDJIIKfeOq/h7XOp8PNB7Ha2k5SEUPJe5aqrIx2f8M6SSsZs51+tGm+1g1JtK7z oqLGDXBIxePSwEW2tfCOc0lSu73Vn2rntdjLvvbF7MI1jdFPcg1BNYgaNrAZnuF2RHQm jZ0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pTnXxoN1c/xol8OMD/kdBFWEOdWQfn880FxaMwlCyr8=; b=MiJibGnYuNqoYN9KDN/vIXezSgBJjp9MYoB53PWvy1RDOPh7LKkoAQfdlie8ZiNfxv FsDk/w+gZ0sgyWD1g+BrNf2dg1BBb+mT2RzxUi4TeXSqyxa2jIh3xm4uB5hO8ZQEbjAU ql7rEiu1MDO3r70avhwXTbQRU33MtbhefYHzrFGof73n9OaQAkapOKS9xdfRWXQz73i5 vUjyAgjBsboxStX/GfpTQ3IMzoyDY/fMaAgIwY8DOOnK4zzg0Vvw7z6bhPhezwdLrtoa Vnv9BWeQV+tm7bX4zH/GM7so7RpMqSQMzt9NtRdUegXJ+mESLfHXo+IRm59mNUUyXgED Y52A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX8j74cWEshLa0ywn3vfCsSHXdS6QH6YLS11xvpQy9sDsRHfUQQ 1jbNZoBoQghJ34KGUcKN9gehuHegE6fuECNxHzpAOg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxrHNsTUZQJdNQpADWQJV0a5q3yF7Q3oT+aKFvzMMl82aOGokP5qGjfAcrimFyQgR4HDMZVU4JfWNCEr9QL8vM= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f412:: with SMTP id p18mr3030025vsn.207.1579213310270; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:21:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202001150747.00F7lqiG071097@repo.freebsd.org> <6925a470-ccbe-1446-e55e-f0aa8b6e6387@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: From: Ben Woods Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 08:21:39 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r356758 - in head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall: . scripts To: Philip Paeps Cc: Ben Woods , Conrad Meyer , Ed Maste , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47zJZl4g4cz3DQl X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 22:21:51 -0000 On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 3:15 pm, Philip Paeps wrote: > On 2020-01-16 13:32:07 (+1000), Conrad Meyer wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:15 PM Ed Maste wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 17:55, Warner Losh wrote: > > Very good point, defaulting to UFS for <4GB and ZFS for >=4GB sounds > decent to me. > > I would support that. > > Ben: can you add a check for memory around the default selection? > As pointed out by dteske and koobs, I think having the bsdinstall menu order change depending on resources would lead to confusion and would not be aligned to POLA. My opinion is that presenting the most common option as the first option makes sense, but that users should still apply their brain and understand the merits of the options when making a selection. Perhaps we could simply include a message on that bsdinstall partitioning mode selection screen that UFS is recommended on systems with < 4 Gb RAM? Regards, Ben -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com