From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 21:54:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABEA716A4CE for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:54:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A7743D31 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:54:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1CzikD-000CEy-30; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:54:33 -0700 In-Reply-To: <420D24EE.40606@tvog.net> References: <649200329.20050211081852@wanadoo.fr> <621dabed4fc2996ae4cb3a2929d6842c@chrononomicon.com> <420D24EE.40606@tvog.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Message-Id: <805E7F3C-7C77-11D9-B134-000D933E3CEC@shire.net> From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:54:28 -0700 To: Frank Laszlo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,PLING_PLING autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Bart Silverstrim Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 21:54:33 -0000 On Feb 11, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Frank Laszlo wrote: > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > >> >> On Feb 11, 2005, at 6:00 AM, Bart Silverstrim wrote: >> >>> Since when did FreeBSD, a project always driven by volunteers and >>> not by commercial matters, suddenly gain a marketing department that >>> is trying to steer FreeBSD into the business sector? Is FreeBSD >>> starting to have marketing dictate technology instead of technology >>> dictate marketing? >> >> >> Sorry, but this does not make sense. >> >> FreeBSD is driven by commercial matters. Many of the people that >> work on it are paid to work on it by their employers, who are using >> it commercially. FreeBSD will wither away if it does not continue >> to receive extensive commercial support like Linux gets. > > I wouldnt say many, there are few commiters who are actually paid to > work on it, most commiters/developers do it as a hobby. > many in no way means a majority. many is more than a few, where a few is a handful (3-5 or so). There are probably more than a handful who do it as more than a hobby. A lot of good people do it on their own time as well, and I salute that. But a lot of people like Yahoo and others (Apple probably) submit stuff that ends up in FreeBSD and they pay their people to do so. Lots of features, like jails as I understand it, started off by someone getting paid to implement stuff. These things then get added. best Chad