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Date:      Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:49:15 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Bill Fenner <fenner@parc.xerox.com>, jher@io.com, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: kern/6858 
Message-ID:  <199807091849.OAA12521@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <242.900009266@critter.freebsd.dk>
References:  <98Jul9.110637pdt.177515@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> <242.900009266@critter.freebsd.dk>

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<<On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 20:34:26 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> said:

>> I don't know if I buy this - I've seen too many reports of this problem
>> from too many people (and, in fact, I've seen it too).

> In this case inetd was only one of the problems.

> inetd still have a memory management problem.

I don't necessarily believe this.  I believe that the ``daemons
dying'' problem of a few months ago is still with us, and it is
silently corrupting the in-memory images of binaries which get swapped
out in response to a memory shortage, and then fork.  I was never able
to determine the exact conditions which provoked it, but something was
clearly wrong as recently as a June 6th kernel.  (I could easily
recognize this because my news transit box, when it was running
diablo, would periodically fall over because cron stopped.

-GAWollman

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