From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Mar 30 19:28:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E731337B41B for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:28:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12995 invoked by uid 100); 31 Mar 2002 03:27:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15526.33340.92839.452773@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 21:27:56 -0600 To: Brian T.Schellenberger Cc: Peter Leftwich , Jonathan Arnold , Zach Barnett , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Packages and Ports [pkg vs portupgrade?] In-Reply-To: <20020330221500.95097BA05@i8k.babbleon.org> References: <20020329204644.V81735-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> <20020330135112.AA22EBA05@i8k.babbleon.org> <15526.2692.417612.726821@guru.mired.org> <20020330221500.95097BA05@i8k.babbleon.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.49 (Python 2.2 on freebsd4) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <20020330221500.95097BA05@i8k.babbleon.org>, Brian T.Schellenberger typed: > On Saturday 30 March 2002 01:57 pm, Mike Meyer wrote: > | In <20020330135112.AA22EBA05@i8k.babbleon.org>, Brian T.Schellenberger > typed: > | > The only reason I can think of to do things the "traditional" Unix way is > | > if the port isn't getting a recent enough version of the software or is > | > somehow broken. > | How about if you want to know how to install the software in question > | on a non-FreeBSD machine? > Ummm . . . did you get off at the wrong universe? > > Well, the original question was about packages and ports. > And this *is* a FreeBSD mailing list. > I think a context was implied here. Right. We're talking about reasons for wanting to install from the tarball on a FreeBSD machine which as a port. Having easy access to a FreeBSD machine but wanting to know how to deal with some software on non-freebsd machines isn't unheard of. Especially if you make a living helping people with that other software, and don't want to limit your people running it on FreeBSD. > Besides, don't think that packages would work very well on a non-FreeBSD > machine, either. Correct. That's when you want to know how to install it from the tarball. Just because the port exists doesn't mean you can't do that on a FreeBSD machine. > | I'd also add wanting a different > | configuration than any you can get with the port, as it's not clear > | that that qualifies as "somehow broken". > I was *discussing* how to use ports to get a different configuration than you > can install with a port. > I don't think you read my original mail very carefully. I don't think you read my reply very carefully. Or would you care to explain how to get my favorited configuration of Apache - which uses the python module, a postgress authentication module, with dynamic module loading turned off - to build from ports? http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message