From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 9: 7:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7233237B41D for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:03:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 167g8b-0007xq-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:58:45 +0100 Received: from pd90172e9.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.233]) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 167g8a-0002KV-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:58:44 +0100 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:56:47 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: "Brian T.Schellenberger" Cc: Philip Pereira , Subject: Re: Traditionalist Installation In-Reply-To: <01112411264003.00791@i8k.babbleon.org> Message-ID: <20011124153814.F288-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Brian T.Schellenberger wrote: > On Saturday 24 November 2001 06:47, Philip Pereira wrote: > > Hey Everyone! > > > > Am a "newbie" (part of the forum too) and love FreeBSD. I've had it only 3 > > months, but can already re-compile my kernel (am please with myself). > > > > Just a quick question - I want to learn things the traditional way... Where > > can I find some FreeBSD compatible applications and how can I compile / > > install them on my system (avoiding the ports collection, etc.) > > I have no clue why you'd want to avoid the ports, but if you want to do so, > just check the net for the source .tgz files of your favorite application, > download, untar and unzip it, and then follow the make file. > > Or you can "cheat" and use te ports to figure out where the sources live. > > Mind you, I can't see what possible benefit there is in this; personally, I > use the ports even when I modifiy the sources by hand . . . It might be interesting though, to a newbie, to see how things work manually. Let's say you downloaded some "tarball" source.tar.gz (or sometimes source.tgz ) into your /usr/local . Then you type # tar zxf source.tar.gz to decompress (--> # man gzip) and unpack (--> # man tar) your sources. Then you will find a new directory called /usr/local/source . # cd /usr/local/source # ./configure to configure your sources and edit the Makefile. # make to compile them (sometimes you will need gnu-make instead of freebsd's make; it would be # gmake then) # make install to install your binaries. If everything went well, you can start your application by typing # source now. *But* this will only work smoothly with very well "caressed" sources. Very often you would have to edit or even patch things yourself. Ports will do this work for you. But I think you could try this with the text-browser lynx yourself. Good Luck! Uli. ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message