From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 11 9:17:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D4114FA6 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:17:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id JAA26867; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:17:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id JAA20319; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:17:05 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id MAA09190; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:17:06 -0400 (EDT) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14177.13953.82252.18827@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:17:05 -0700 (MST) To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is the CD driver supposed to attach() now regardless of media? In-Reply-To: <199906111555.JAA49508@panzer.plutotech.com> References: <73714.929087303@zippy.cdrom.com> <199906111555.JAA49508@panzer.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Friday, June 11, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: ] > > Well, there are some things we can do to narrow it down: > > - what kind of CDROM drive do you have I have a Toshiba XM-6401B 40X CD-ROM and also a Yamaha CRW4416S CD-RW. The Toshiba is the first disc on the scsi chain at ID3, the Yamaha next at ID4 (then two LVD drives at 5 and 6 respectively). Maybe I'm "off" on this but I'd consider this fairly recent hardware. > - since I assume you've already gotten 3.2 installed, how long does the > probe message for your CDROM drive take to appear when you don't have > any media in the drive? Yes, I installed 3.1-R from CD and then just the other night (after I figured out my modem fiasco) I CVSup'ed to 3.2-STABLE and rebuilt and installed that with no problems. The probe messages come up very quickly. I've got my "scsi delay" set to 5 seconds during boot (from the 15 in GENERIC) and everything is "found" correctly. I assume that's what you mean when you say probe message. Usually as soon as it hits the "login:" prompt, another console message will print out which is pretty much an echo of what I'd find from dmesg regarding cd0 and cd1 (just what type of drives, they are, speed, and the last line which says "NOT_READY," because of no media). This happens within a second or two of getting the "login:" prompt. > - can you mount and read the FreeBSD CD okay? Oh yes, like a champ. Both the Toshiba and the CD-RW. Never been any problem now or previously in 3.1-R. > There are some CDROM drives that take a *long* time to respond to read > capacity commands when there's no media in the drive. So it can take over > a minute for the drive to show up when there's no media. > > It may be that you're telling sysinstall to attempt to mount the CD during > the time the drive is still probing. That's one possible explanation for > this. who knows? I know the drive lights are not on when I'm in sysinstall (don't know if that'd be an indication of the drive "thinking"). I will boot from floppies tonight again and leave sysinstall sitting for a minute or two before I try and chose the media. If it helps, I'm running an Asus P2B-DS motherboard, BIOS 1009 (latest) which incorporates the adaptec SCSI bios v2.11 for the onboard 7890 chipset. Maybe there's a wierdity with this setup and those drives? The work-around is of course just to have media there before the probes happen--which is not painful--but it would be nice to figure out why this is happening (I figured out the work-around "by accident" when trying to install 3.1-R from CD-ROM ... but perhaps this has befuddled other people and maybe future installs of 3.2-R from CD-ROM??). Thanks for the reply--I'll try doing the above tonight when I get home and will report back. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message