From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 1: 5: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.trit.org (bazooka.trit.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FB437B419 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 01:05:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by bazooka.trit.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BC6F53E2F; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bazooka (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.trit.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88023C12E; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:05:02 +0000 (UTC) To: Randy Bush Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory In-Reply-To: ; from randy@psg.com on "Sat, 23 Mar 2002 23:55:39 -0800" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:04:57 +0000 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20020324090502.BC6F53E2F@bazooka.trit.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Randy Bush wrote: > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p /var/tmp/temproot/ > mtree:No such file or directory Looks like /usr/sbin isn't in your PATH. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 1: 7: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D946D37B417 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 01:07:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (relay2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3-2) with ESMTP id g2O96xY23961; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:06:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (hyperion.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.33]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3/7) with ESMTP id g2O96xv23957; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:06:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (margaux.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.72]) by hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01455; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:06:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from stolz@localhost) by margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1-gb-2) id KAA03300; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:06:54 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:06:53 +0100 From: Volker Stolz To: Josef Karthauser , Wilko Bulte , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: umass/memory stick Message-ID: <20020324100653.A3290@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20020322210053.A2969@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> <20020322210947.A59695@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020322201353.GC45972@genius.tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <20020322201353.GC45972@genius.tao.org.uk>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 08:13:53PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Am 22. Mar 2002 um 21:13 MET schrieb Josef Karthauser: > You could try applying the usb patch set at http://www.josef-k.net/misc > That includes the 6 to 10 byte code from -current. The patch applies cleanly, but the problem persists. Do I have to wibble a knob or something? -- Wonderful \hbox (0.80312pt too nice) in paragraph at lines 16--18 Volker Stolz * stolz@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Please use PGP or S/MIME for correspondence! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 1: 8:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from root.com (nexus.root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD0E37B419 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 01:08:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dg@localhost) by root.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g2O98aY25391; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 01:08:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dg) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 01:08:36 -0800 From: David Greenman To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Randy Bush , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory Message-ID: <20020324010836.I20271@nexus.root.com> References: <20020324090502.BC6F53E2F@bazooka.trit.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020324090502.BC6F53E2F@bazooka.trit.org>; from dima@trit.org on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:04:57AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Randy Bush wrote: >> mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p /var/tmp/temproot/ >> mtree:No such file or directory > >Looks like /usr/sbin isn't in your PATH. Is it mtree that isn't found, or is it /var/tmp/temproot that doesn't exist (he had just deleted it above)? -DG David Greenman Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com President, Download Technologies, Inc. - http://www.downloadtech.com Pave the road of life with opportunities. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 1:12:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl2.sentex.ca (vinyl2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2E137B419 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 01:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from house.sentex.net (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) (authenticated) by vinyl2.sentex.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2O9CK961885 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO) for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 04:12:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020324034124.04c7bac8@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 04:12:42 -0500 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: pgp problems on stable coredumping with sig 8 ?? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020322110901.05b5d6a0@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems the problem happened somewhere after March 18th as my boxes prior to that are OK. The value of ticksize is coming back as 0. The subroutine which generates it is static unsigned ranTickSize(void) { unsigned i = 0, j = 0, diff, d[N]; timetype tv0, tv1, tv2; /* * TODO Get some per-run data to seed the RNG with. * pid, ppid, etc. */ gettime(&tv0); tv1 = tv0; do { gettime(&tv2); diff = (unsigned)tickdiff(tv2, tv1); if (diff > MINTICK) { d[i++] = diff; tv0 = tv2; j = 0; } else if (++j >= 4096) /* Always getting <= MINTICK units */ return MINTICK + !MINTICK; tv1 = tv2; } while (i < N); /* Return average of middle 5 values (rounding up) */ qsort(d, N, sizeof(d[0]), ranCompare); diff = (d[N/2-2]+d[N/2-1]+d[N/2]+d[N/2+1]+d[N/2+2]+4)/5; #if NOISEDEBUG fprintf(stderr, "Tick size is %u\n", diff); #endif return diff; } Is now coming back as zero Is this a PGP bug or a FreeBSD bug ? As I mentioned below, it dies on a divide by zero error at delta = (PGPUInt32)(tickdiff(t, prevt) / ticksize); ---Mike At 11:49 AM 3/22/2002 -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: >Not sure where to start with this one, but one of our newer stable boxes >seems to barf with pgp versions 5 and 6 > >It doesnt seem to be hardware specific as I installed it on a different >machine (Celeron vs PIV) with the same results > > >OK, vinyl# gdb /usr/local/bin/pgp pgp.core >GNU gdb 4.18 >Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. >GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are >welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. >Type "show copying" to see the conditions. >There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. >This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... >Core was generated by `pgp'. >Program terminated with signal 8, Floating point exception. >Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.3...done. >Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libm.so.2...done. >Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4...done. >Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. >#0 0x80b5c08 in pgpRandomCollectEntropy (rc=0x8214220) at pgpRndUnix.c:323 >323 delta = (PGPUInt32)(tickdiff(t, prevt) / ticksize); >(gdb) bt >#0 0x80b5c08 in pgpRandomCollectEntropy (rc=0x8214220) at pgpRndUnix.c:323 >#1 0x811c0b3 in pgpContextGetGlobalPoolRandomContext (context=0x82133a0) >at pgpContext.c:495 >#2 0x80b64a1 in pgpSeedGlobalRandomPool (context=0x82133a0) at >pgpRndSeed.c:276 >#3 0x811b838 in FinishInitContext (context=0x82133a0) at pgpContext.c:95 >#4 0x811b8ec in pgpNewContextCustomInternal (clientAPIVersion=50339856, >custom=0xbfbffb34, > newContext=0xbfbffb98) at pgpContext.c:155 >#5 0x811b9eb in pgpNewContextInternal (clientAPIVersion=50339856, >newContext=0xbfbffb98) at pgpContext.c:195 >#6 0x811ba18 in PGPNewContext (clientAPIVersion=50339856, >newContext=0xbfbffb98) at pgpContext.c:217 >#7 0x804ab2b in main (argc=2, argv=0xbfbffbf0) at main.c:193 >#8 0x804a43d in _start () >(gdb) > > >It seems to be > >delta = (PGPUInt32)(tickdiff(t, prevt) / ticksize); > >Where tickdiff is either > >#define tickdiff(s,t) (((s).time-(t).time)*1000 + (s).millitm - (t).millitm) > >#define tickdiff(s,t) (((t).it_value.tv_sec-(s).it_value.tv_sec)*1000000 + \ > (t).it_value.tv_usec - (s).it_value.tv_usec) > >#define tickdiff(s,t) >(((s).tv_sec-(t).tv_sec)*1000000+(s).tv_usec-(t).tv_usec) > >#define tickdiff(s,t) (((s).tv_sec-(t).tv_sec)*1000000000 + \ > (s).tv_nsec - (t).tv_nsec) >#define tickdiff(s,t) ((s)-(t)) > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 >Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net >Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net >Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 2:39:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from witchspace.com (pc1-reda4-0-cust134.bre.cable.ntl.com [213.105.81.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5871C37B41B for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 02:39:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1165 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2002 10:39:17 -0000 Received: from lexx.witchspace.com (HELO witchspace.com) (192.168.0.1) by dookie.witchspace.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2002 10:39:17 -0000 Message-ID: <3C9DACD5.8070403@witchspace.com> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:39:17 +0000 From: Jonathan Belson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020323 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Belson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network slowdowns... References: <3C9C7D92.1000706@witchspace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan Belson wrote: > Hiya > > > I've recently been experiencing slowdowns on my server's outgoing > network port, which occur after half a day to a day after the last > reboot. After trying a few things that were suggested to me, I realised what the problem was. Without the DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT option my DHCP client couldn't re-lease the IP from my ISP's DHCP servers and presumably ended up using an invalid IP.. I've added the following firewall rules: # DHCP ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 67 setup ${fwcmd} add pass udp from any to ${oip} 67 ${fwcmd} add pass udp from ${oip} 67 to any ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 68 setup ${fwcmd} add pass udp from any to ${oip} 68 ${fwcmd} add pass udp from ${oip} 68 to any and removed the line ${fwcmd} add deny all from 0.0.0.0/8 to any via ${oif} which seems to have worked thus far. Cheers, --Jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 3:26:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from FH-Augsburg.DE (av2.RZ.FH-Augsburg.DE [141.82.16.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFAB37B404 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 03:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from RZ.FH-Augsburg.DE (mosquito.RZ.FH-Augsburg.DE [141.82.16.253]) by FH-Augsburg.DE (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2OBQXk20343 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:26:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from ant.rz.fh-augsburg.de (ant.rz.fh-augsburg.de [141.82.16.251]) by RZ.FH-Augsburg.DE (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2OBQbg05624 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:26:37 +0100 (MET) Received: (from arno@localhost) by ant.rz.fh-augsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g2OBQZ019482 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:26:35 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <20020324122634.A17372@rz.fh-augsburg.de> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:26:34 +0100 From: Arno Schneider To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: usb printing to epson stylus photo 895 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-md5; boundary=r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! I have a problem with an Epson Stylus Photo 895. The printer has only a usb interface. When i power up the printer the console shows uhub1: Texas Instruments General Purpose USB Hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.01, addr 2 uhub1: 2 ports with 0 removable, self powered ulpt0: EPSON USB Printer, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 3, iclass 7/1 ugen0: EPSON SP 895 Storage , rev 1.10/1.10, addr 4 But when i try to print to /dev/ulpt0 the print head only moves a little richt an left - nothing is printed. This is with 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #16 best regards, arno --=20 arno schneider arno@fh-augsburg.de Rechenzentrum Fachhochschule Augsburg PGP fingerprint: C6 AD 36 FF B1 6A 8E 66 30 27 2B FA 02 46 B4 8E PGP public key: http://www.fh-augsburg.de/~arno/pgpkey.txt --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: NTf4ABP5U83X7B9btstwSMZF8rbhZjqD iQCVAwUBPJ236ArS85WlIuMDAQElxgQApMzlvALDeD/0yE8DBmhxrhAnQXLcCT8m hKkKWxNHroS5oyG2bvJTIN9YG1JNdfBe5a1KohuGRSiWy8qJvdcmCdaTs/VzbIx4 yFJuOhzFTPPVJIZ5lV5TScwawPZO1zEAMyIl0WK+Xi/rKxOBrK6o6B7J7pPf6DvK uUtpoy1kIP0= =ExZR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 3:35:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cs.huji.ac.il (cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B3537B41B for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 03:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32] ident=exim) by cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #2) id 16p6HR-0003TX-00; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:35:21 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ident=danny) by pampa.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 16p6HL-0002Nh-00; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:35:15 +0200 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Schmidt Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MFC of ATA driver ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:35:15 +0200 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, im having some problems :-), with a non/old ATA driver it works, = with the new, it does not. the moterboard is a GA-7DPXDW (in plain english: a dual Athlon MP, with a Promise Fastrak100 on board). when using the raid option (actually 2 IDE disks striped), and doing a make -j4 buildworld with both /usr/src & /usr/obj on the local disk, it now just hangs - after a while -. somedays ago, with an older kernel it didn't crash but gave all sort of compilation errors. if i don't use the raid option all is ok. i don't think this is relevant but: the host is diskless, or shall i say, dataless. if i don't use the local = disk all is ok. danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 3:38:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ShagBSD.shagol.com (shagbsd.shagol.com [195.65.111.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A3F37B41A for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 03:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ShagBSD.shagol.com (localhost.shagol.com [127.0.0.1]) by ShagBSD.shagol.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2OBc0eb014585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:38:00 +0100 (CET) Received: (from shagol@localhost) by ShagBSD.shagol.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2OBc0HR014584; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:38:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:38:00 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200203241138.g2OBc0HR014584@ShagBSD.shagol.com> X-Authentication-Warning: ShagBSD.shagol.com: shagol set sender to shagol@shagol.com using -f From: shagol@shagol.com Subject: PAM on FreeBSD To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: X-Originating-IP: 217.162.92.186 X-Mailer: Webmin 0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="bound1016969880" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --bound1016969880 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Is there a possibility to change passwords on freebsd with PAM ? I'm not getting it to work :-( I'm running a FreeBSD 4.5-Stable box. Thanx & Regards, Thomas --bound1016969880-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 6:26:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from botbay.net (botbay.net [151.197.159.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5C237B400; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 06:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wcampbel@localhost) by botbay.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2OEQY054227; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:26:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wcampbel@botbay.net) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:25:31 -0500 (EST) From: "W. Campbell" To: "Crist J. Clark" Cc: Subject: Re: lib crypt/descrypt/scrypt In-Reply-To: <20020323182336.E48968@blossom.cjclark.org> Message-ID: <20020324092206.Q37036-100000@botbay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Crist J. Clark wrote: > On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:14:47AM -0500, W. Campbell wrote: > > When did a single libcrypt replace the separate libdescrypt and > > libscrypt libraries in -STABLE? > > FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386 Release Notes > . > . > . > libcrypt and libdescrypt have been unified to provide > a configurable password authentication hash library. Both > the md5 and des hash methods are provided unless the des > hash is specifically compiled out. Thanks > > My reason for asking... > > > > I've been having some odd errors[1] when profiling, and finally > > traced it down to a stale libdescrypt.so.2 library remaining in > > /usr/lib. > > > > Is there any harm in removing the descrypt and scrypt libraries, > > Nothing in the FreeBSD system should care. No way to tell if you have > third party software that might care, but it is not likely. ircd can sometimes care, but I recompiled all mine with straight libcrypt. > > and > > can there be something in UPDATING letting others know that these > > libraries changed and may need to be removed? > > This is the first time I've heard of any problems with having the old > ones lying around. This is the first time I had problems and noticed issues with the stale libs. > > [1] > > wcampbel@botbay (Stats): bin/mkpasswd > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2: Undefined symbol > > "_CurrentRuneLocale" > > What is mkpasswd? ircd's wrapper around crypt(), used to generate encrypted passwords for the conf file. profiling ircd and anything else that has a configure script looking for -ldescrypt prior to -lcrypt causes the same error with stale libraries present. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 7:41:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sumter.awod.com (sumter.awod.com [208.140.99.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E118F37B419 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 07:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from teddy.fas.com (pcp01010372pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net [68.58.176.67]) by sumter.awod.com (8.8.7/8.12.2) with ESMTP id KAA06104 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:41:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) X-Authentication-Warning: sumter.awod.com: User sandib [pcp01010372pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net] popped 257 seconds ago Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16pA98-0005Ly-00 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:43:02 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:43:02 -0500 From: stan To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: ucs2any.pl, what port supplies it? Message-ID: <20020324154302.GA20508@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.17 X-Uptime: 10:38:40 up 1 day, 15:23, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.14, 0.10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to update my poorts this weekend. Since XF864.2 is know in the ports tree, i moved /usr/X11R6 to a safe location and did a portupgrade -a. Howevr I wound up without a working X servr. So I built it. Now I'm trying to build the fonts, but the builds are failing for th lack of the script i mentioned in the title. I supose I could just copy it over from the safe location, but this feels wrong. Was there some other port I needed to build before building the fonts? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 8: 0:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.113.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D363F37B404 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 08:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private.lan [192.168.0.2]) by pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2OG0IP85593; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:00:19 GMT (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3C9DF812.38516560@ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:00:18 +0000 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stan Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: ucs2any.pl, what port supplies it? References: <20020324154302.GA20508@teddy.fas.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG stan wrote: > > I'm trying to update my poorts this weekend. > > Since XF864.2 is know in the ports tree, i moved /usr/X11R6 to a safe > location and did a portupgrade -a. Howevr I wound up without a working X > servr. So I built it. Now I'm trying to build the fonts, but the builds are > failing for th lack of the script i mentioned in the title. I supose I > could just copy it over from the safe location, but this feels wrong. > > Was there some other port I needed to build before building the fonts? > Dependency list is obviously broken. Try XFree86-4-clients -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 8:19:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sumter.awod.com (sumter.awod.com [208.140.99.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C377437B41C for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 08:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from teddy.fas.com (pcp01010372pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net [68.58.176.67]) by sumter.awod.com (8.8.7/8.12.2) with ESMTP id LAA15560 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:19:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) X-Authentication-Warning: sumter.awod.com: User sandib [pcp01010372pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net] popped 108 seconds ago Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16pAjs-0005dd-00 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:21:00 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:21:00 -0500 From: stan To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: ucs2any.pl, what port supplies it? Message-ID: <20020324162100.GA21666@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List References: <20020324154302.GA20508@teddy.fas.com> <3C9DF812.38516560@ntlworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C9DF812.38516560@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.17 X-Uptime: 11:20:17 up 1 day, 16:05, 1 user, load average: 0.44, 0.20, 0.12 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 04:00:18PM +0000, ian j hart wrote: > stan wrote: > > > > I'm trying to update my poorts this weekend. > > > > Since XF864.2 is know in the ports tree, i moved /usr/X11R6 to a safe > > location and did a portupgrade -a. Howevr I wound up without a working X > > servr. So I built it. Now I'm trying to build the fonts, but the builds are > > failing for th lack of the script i mentioned in the title. I supose I > > could just copy it over from the safe location, but this feels wrong. > > > > Was there some other port I needed to build before building the fonts? > > > > Dependency list is obviously broken. Try > > XFree86-4-clients > Thanks, that did the trick. -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 8:35:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1206C37B41C for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 08:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 4.00) id 16pAxb-0009pI-00; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 08:35:11 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: David Greenman Cc: Dima Dorfman , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory References: <20020324090502.BC6F53E2F@bazooka.trit.org> <20020324010836.I20271@nexus.root.com> Message-Id: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 08:35:11 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>> mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p /var/tmp/temproot/ >>> mtree:No such file or directory >> Looks like /usr/sbin isn't in your PATH. > Is it mtree that isn't found, or is it /var/tmp/temproot that doesn't > exist (he had just deleted it above)? sorry. i assumed this was known so was too terse mtree was found, it is on path /var/tmp/temproot was created ignore me for a few hours. i have o gotten some sleep o blown away /usr/obj o did a cvsup without -s (nothing except ports changed) o and am doing a make buildworld now randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 8:52:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mikea.ath.cx (okc-65-30-192-11.mmcable.com [65.30.192.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F0337B419 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 08:52:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mikea@localhost) by mikea.ath.cx (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g2OGptP32096; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:51:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mikea) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:51:54 -0600 From: mikea To: Arno Schneider Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usb printing to epson stylus photo 895 Message-ID: <20020324105154.A32070@mikea.ath.cx> Mail-Followup-To: mikea , Arno Schneider , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020324122634.A17372@rz.fh-augsburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020324122634.A17372@rz.fh-augsburg.de>; from arno@RZ.FH-Augsburg.DE on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 12:26:34PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 10:18:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from terrasat.ro (haspe.terrasat.ro [193.231.202.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8C637B423 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from razvan (razvan.pi.terrasat.ro [81.18.69.76]) by terrasat.ro (Vircom SMTPRS 4.3.182) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:17:43 +0200 From: "Razvan Cremenescu" To: Subject: my system doesn't recognize the two cd-rom units i have Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:16:59 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Disposition-Notification-To: "Razvan Cremenescu" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i installed the 4.4 release and did the cvsup on a periodic basis (daily) with full recompilation of the kernel. it now responds to "uname -a" with: "FreeBSD xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #7: Sun Mar 24 03:12:25 EET 2002 root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/src/sys/compile/xxxxx i386" but i have a problem. my system doesn't recognize the two cd-rom units i have. one of them is CD-RW. i checked the config file for the kernel and it has support for ATA drives. what can i do? thank you in advance Razvan Cremenescu, ================================= Network Operations Center Pitesti e-mail: cremenescu@terrasat.ro Tel: +40-48-250015 int. 25 +40-48-251112 int. 25 Mobile: +40-92-685805 ================================= Terra Sat Comp Resita 1700 CS, Romania http://www.terrasat.ro company@terrasat.ro Tel: +40-55-220012 +40-55-220013 Fax: +40-55-220117 ================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 10:22:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.knology.net (user-24-214-63-13.knology.net [24.214.63.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B2D137B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22421 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2002 18:21:38 -0000 Received: from user-24-214-88-166.knology.net (HELO there) (24.214.88.166) by user-24-214-63-13.knology.net with SMTP; 24 Mar 2002 18:21:38 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Mike Murphree To: stan Subject: Re: ucs2any.pl, what port supplies it? Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:22:26 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020324154302.GA20508@teddy.fas.com> In-Reply-To: <20020324154302.GA20508@teddy.fas.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020324182208.9B2D137B400@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 24 March 2002 09:43 am, stan wrote: > Since XF864.2 is know in the ports tree, i moved /usr/X11R6 to a safe > location and did a portupgrade -a. Howevr I wound up without a working X > servr. So I built it. Now I'm trying to build the fonts, but the builds are > failing for th lack of the script i mentioned in the title. I supose I > could just copy it over from the safe location, but this feels wrong. Portupgrade builds it out of the sequence it needs to be in... > Was there some other port I needed to build before building the fonts? As you found out already, -clients fixes it. Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 10:23:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prometheus.vh.laserfence.net (prometheus.laserfence.net [196.44.73.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1E437B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:23:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix.vh.laserfence.net ([192.168.0.10]) by prometheus.vh.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16pCdo-0000C3-00; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:22:53 +0200 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:22:51 +0200 (SAST) From: Willie Viljoen X-X-Sender: will@phoenix.vh.laserfence.net To: Razvan Cremenescu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my system doesn't recognize the two cd-rom units i have In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020324202213.T307-100000@phoenix.vh.laserfence.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Make sure you have the appropriate ATAPI drivers in addition to the ATA driver... this might be a very obvious thing, but I've left those out too on occasion and really kicked myself when I realised it. Will On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Razvan Cremenescu wrote: > > i installed the 4.4 release and did the cvsup on a periodic basis > (daily) with full recompilation of the kernel. > it now responds to "uname -a" with: > "FreeBSD xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #7: Sun Mar 24 > 03:12:25 EET 2002 root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/src/sys/compile/xxxxx > i386" > > > but i have a problem. my system doesn't recognize the two cd-rom units i > have. one of them is CD-RW. > i checked the config file for the kernel and it has support for ATA > drives. > > what can i do? > > thank you in advance > > > Razvan Cremenescu, > > ================================= > Network Operations Center Pitesti > > e-mail: cremenescu@terrasat.ro > Tel: +40-48-250015 int. 25 > +40-48-251112 int. 25 > Mobile: +40-92-685805 > ================================= > Terra Sat Comp > Resita 1700 CS, Romania > http://www.terrasat.ro > company@terrasat.ro > Tel: +40-55-220012 > +40-55-220013 > Fax: +40-55-220117 > ================================= > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > -- Willie Viljoen Private IT Consultant 214 Paul Kruger Avenue Universitas Bloemfontein 9321 South Africa +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 +27 82 404 03 27 will@laserfence.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 10:30:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from terrasat.ro (haspe.terrasat.ro [193.231.202.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A4537B41E for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from razvan (razvan.pi.terrasat.ro [81.18.69.76]) by terrasat.ro (Vircom SMTPRS 4.3.182) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:30:31 +0200 From: "Razvan Cremenescu" To: Subject: RE: my system doesn't recognize the two cd-rom units i have Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:29:50 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020324202213.T307-100000@phoenix.vh.laserfence.net> Importance: Normal Disposition-Notification-To: "Razvan Cremenescu" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well, i am aware of that, but it worked since now... what can i add to this:? "# ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering" i found this in LINT also. that's all there is. Razvan Cremenescu, ================================= Network Operations Center Pitesti e-mail: cremenescu@terrasat.ro Tel: +40-48-250015 int. 25 +40-48-251112 int. 25 Mobile: +40-92-685805 ================================= Terra Sat Comp Resita 1700 CS, Romania http://www.terrasat.ro company@terrasat.ro Tel: +40-55-220012 +40-55-220013 Fax: +40-55-220117 ================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 10:31: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.boo.net (mail2.boo.net [216.200.67.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2586E37B419 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:30:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from pavilion (162.33.63.44) by mail2.boo.net (Worldmail 1.3.167) for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; 24 Mar 2002 13:05:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20020324133135.01546100@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: kleinc@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:31:35 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Klein Subject: problems with freebsd 4.4-stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a problem, I don't know how to get out of. I had several boxen running 4.3-release, and I updated them using CVS source to 4.4-stable. I tested the system for about 2-3 weeks on a box doing a decent amount of network actifity with loads in the 1-2 range with no known problem. I then rolled out this version to all of my other systems. However, when I try to compile software, whether it be freebsd 4.5 userland or just a simple application, the compile blows up with a linker problem. I have a system running 4.5, but it has totally different hardware then the other systems. Can I tar the system that works, and then untar it on the other boxes? if the enet cards are not supported, I could always recompile the kernel to provide support for it IF I can get the compiler to work again. the box with 4.5 is running 4.5-release. any ideas? Chris klein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 10:31:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mikea.ath.cx (okc-65-30-192-11.mmcable.com [65.30.192.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0D737B41A for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:30:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mikea@localhost) by mikea.ath.cx (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g2OIUeT32710 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:30:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mikea) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:30:40 -0600 From: mikea To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my system doesn't recognize the two cd-rom units i have Message-ID: <20020324123040.A32659@mikea.ath.cx> Mail-Followup-To: mikea , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from cremenescu@terrasat.ro on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:16:59PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:16:59PM +0200, Razvan Cremenescu wrote: > > i installed the 4.4 release and did the cvsup on a periodic basis > (daily) with full recompilation of the kernel. > it now responds to "uname -a" with: > "FreeBSD xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #7: Sun Mar 24 > 03:12:25 EET 2002 root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/src/sys/compile/xxxxx > i386" > > > but i have a problem. my system doesn't recognize the two cd-rom units i > have. one of them is CD-RW. > i checked the config file for the kernel and it has support for ATA > drives. > > what can i do? First, did the previous system see them both? If not, then you might want to check the BIOS configuration, make sure that they aren't both jumpered as master, and so forth. They _do_ both have power applied, open when you push the button, and so on, yes? That's a mistake I made last week. If the old system did see them both properly, and the new system doesn't, then does /var/run/dmesg.boot have a line for each of the CD drives? If it does (see example below), : acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using PIO4 then you have a different problem, and need more help than I can give you. If it doesn't, then you need to track _that_ down and correct it. Probably there will be an error message where the system tried to determine what was there and couldn't; that may lead you to the cause. -- Mike Andrews mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin since 1964 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 10:33:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prometheus.vh.laserfence.net (prometheus.laserfence.net [196.44.73.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3EF37B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:33:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix.vh.laserfence.net ([192.168.0.10]) by prometheus.vh.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16pCnZ-0000CR-00; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:32:57 +0200 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:32:56 +0200 (SAST) From: Willie Viljoen X-X-Sender: will@phoenix.vh.laserfence.net To: Razvan Cremenescu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: my system doesn't recognize the two cd-rom units i have In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020324203241.T307-100000@phoenix.vh.laserfence.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That should actually work fine... can you attatch the output from dmesg to an email for me? On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Razvan Cremenescu wrote: > > well, i am aware of that, but it worked since now... > > what can i add to this:? > > "# ATA and ATAPI devices > device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 > device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 > device ata > device atadisk # ATA disk drives > device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives > device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives > device atapist # ATAPI tape drives > options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering" > > i found this in LINT also. that's all there is. > > > Razvan Cremenescu, > > ================================= > Network Operations Center Pitesti > > e-mail: cremenescu@terrasat.ro > Tel: +40-48-250015 int. 25 > +40-48-251112 int. 25 > Mobile: +40-92-685805 > ================================= > Terra Sat Comp > Resita 1700 CS, Romania > http://www.terrasat.ro > company@terrasat.ro > Tel: +40-55-220012 > +40-55-220013 > Fax: +40-55-220117 > ================================= > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > -- Willie Viljoen Private IT Consultant 214 Paul Kruger Avenue Universitas Bloemfontein 9321 South Africa +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 +27 82 404 03 27 will@laserfence.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 10:45:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9090137B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 4.00) id 16pD03-000Gow-00; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:45:51 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Dima Dorfman Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory References: <20020324090502.BC6F53E2F@bazooka.trit.org> Message-Id: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:45:51 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p /var/tmp/temproot/ >> mtree:No such file or directory > Looks like /usr/sbin isn't in your PATH. something changed in bash 5 on this and only this host. it wanted 'export' before 'PATH=' in /etc/profile. thanks for the help randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 10:49:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98D937B419 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:49:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdn-ar-012orportp333.dialsprint.net ([63.180.48.111] helo=yak) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16pD3G-0001S6-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:49:11 -0800 Message-ID: <004901c1d366$1023ef80$010aa8c0@traversedair.net> From: "Mike Eubanks" To: Subject: Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl during make buildworld Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:59:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to do a complete system build and upgrade to FreeBSD 4.5.0 STABLE. The system doing the compiling is FreeBSD 4.0. The following errors were encountered using the 'make buildworld' command in /usr/src. ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../../../../con trib /perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i38 6/us r/include -L/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl -static -o m iniperl miniperlmain.o opmini.o /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../l ibperl/libperl.a -lm -lcrypt -lutil ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl Abort trap Abort trap cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../../../../contrib /per l5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/in clud e -c perlmain.c *** Error code 134 *** Error code 134 2 errors *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 ELF binary type not known. Use "brandelf" to brand it. I tried to re-simulate the error by changing to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/ and executing make. This is the output I received. ===> libperl ===> miniperl ===> perl ELF binary type not known. Use "brandelf" to brand it. Abort trap *** Error code 134 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. From here, I am stuck. I searched the mailing lists and found only one other instance with this same problem, although, there were no replies with a solution. The closest bit of information that has to do with perl that I can find in my Updating Information file found in /usr/src is the following. 20001006: The perl build procedure no longer installs miniperl, nor uses the installed miniperl. It is recommended that you delete /usr/bin/miniperl. This entry lies between the 4.1.1 RELEASE and 4.2 RELEASE dates. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 11:14:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3D137B417 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:14:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 4.00) id 16pDS0-000HaT-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:14:44 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: broken x4 install Message-Id: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:14:44 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG portupgrade blew installing a new X4. so i cleaned out directories, remade XFree86-4, and it still blows in install --- # make install ===> Installing for XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 ===> XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 depends on executable: xvinfo - found ===> XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/ddx.TXT - found ===> XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/UTBI__10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/UTBI__10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi ===> Configuring for XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 (cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings && imake -DUseInstalled -DProjectRoot=/usr/X11R6 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config -DTOPDIR=../../.. -DCURDIR=.; make Makefiles ; make includes ; make depend) making Makefiles in large... mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak including in ./large... depending in ./large... (cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/bdf/100dpi && imake -DUseInstalled -DProjectRoot=/usr/X11R6 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config -DTOPDIR=../../.. -DCURDIR=.; make Makefiles ; make includes ; make depend) rm -f courB08-ISO8859-1.bdf perl /usr/X11R6/bin/ucs2any.pl courB08.bdf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/util/map-ISO8859-1 ISO8859-1 Can't read mapping file '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/util/map-ISO8859-1': No such file or directory *** Error code 2 --- in fact, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/util is empty. so what package was supposed to fill it? randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 11:17:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D5B8837B41B for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:17:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgeine (AUTH login) at adsl-63-198-133-39.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (HELO edinburgh) (sgeine@63.198.133.39) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2002 19:17:19 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Jesse Geddis" To: "Randy Bush" , "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: RE: broken x4 install Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:17:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 04:00:18PM +0000, ian j hart wrote: > stan wrote: > > > > I'm trying to update my poorts this weekend. > > > > Since XF864.2 is know in the ports tree, i moved /usr/X11R6 to a safe > > location and did a portupgrade -a. Howevr I wound up without a working X > > servr. So I built it. Now I'm trying to build the fonts, but the builds are > > failing for th lack of the script i mentioned in the title. I supose I > > could just copy it over from the safe location, but this feels wrong. > > > > Was there some other port I needed to build before building the fonts? > > > > Dependency list is obviously broken. Try > > XFree86-4-clients > Thanks, that did the trick. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Randy Bush Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 11:15 AM To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: broken x4 install portupgrade blew installing a new X4. so i cleaned out directories, remade XFree86-4, and it still blows in install --- # make install ===> Installing for XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 ===> XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 depends on executable: xvinfo - found ===> XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/ddx.TXT - found ===> XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/UTBI__10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/UTBI__10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi ===> Configuring for XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 (cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings && imake -DUseInstalled -DProjectRoot=/usr/X11R6 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/con fig -DTOPDIR=../../.. -DCURDIR=.; make Makefiles ; make includes ; make depend) making Makefiles in large... mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak including in ./large... depending in ./large... (cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/bdf/100dpi && imake -DUseInstalled -DProjectRoot=/usr/X11R6 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/con fig -DTOPDIR=../../.. -DCURDIR=.; make Makefiles ; make includes ; make depend) rm -f courB08-ISO8859-1.bdf perl /usr/X11R6/bin/ucs2any.pl courB08.bdf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/util/map-ISO8859-1 ISO8859-1 Can't read mapping file '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/util/map-ISO8859-1': No such file or directory *** Error code 2 --- in fact, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/util is empty. so what package was supposed to fill it? randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 11:19:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B3D37B404 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 4.00) id 16pDWs-000HjE-00; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:19:46 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Jesse Geddis" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: RE: broken x4 install References: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:19:46 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG thanks! randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 11:27:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from damnhippie.dyndns.org (12-253-177-2.client.attbi.com [12.253.177.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1D537B404; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.42.2] (peace.hippie.lan [172.22.42.2]) by damnhippie.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2OJRMU88754; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:27:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:27:29 -0700 Subject: Re: For Review: sendmail 8.12.2 import into -STABLE From: Ian To: Gregory Neil Shapiro , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <15513.38875.83457.102683@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I rebooted today for the first time since I installed the patches to update to sendmail 8.12.2 on my development machine. I was startled, after the reboot, to see that I had two sendmail daemons running. One of them clearly identified itself as the client queue-runner, and I had read the new docs about that, so it didn't surprise me that much. The other running instance of it said only "sendmail (accepting connections)" and it took some digging to realize that it's only accepting connections on localhost:25 and thus must be the new local submission daemon. It seems very counter-intuitive to me to have "sendmail_enable=NO" in my rc.conf and end up with two sendmail daemons running. (Yes, I did find the new knobs and twiddled them to Off.) I guess the functional question is: why is the local submission daemon enabled by default? What does it even buy you to run it, the docs don't seem to give any guidance about why it would or wouldn't be a good idea to use a local submission daemon for a given machine. If running the local submission daemon is a good idea for some reason, would it be possible to have that instance of sendmail identify itself as such in the ps output? Something like "sendmail: (accepting only local submissions)" would be less surprising, I think. -- Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 11:32: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476E137B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:32:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2OJW1Gd030748 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2OJW1QV030745; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:32:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15518.10673.452803.292181@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:32:01 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Ian Cc: Subject: Re: For Review: sendmail 8.12.2 import into -STABLE In-Reply-To: References: <15513.38875.83457.102683@horsey.gshapiro.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG freebsd> I guess the functional question is: why is the local submission freebsd> daemon enabled by default? What does it even buy you to run it, freebsd> the docs don't seem to give any guidance about why it would or freebsd> wouldn't be a good idea to use a local submission daemon for a freebsd> given machine. Read /etc/mail/README. It goes into great detail as to why this is necessary and alternatives if you don't want a local submission daemon. freebsd> If running the local submission daemon is a good idea for some freebsd> reason, would it be possible to have that instance of sendmail freebsd> identify itself as such in the ps output? Something like freebsd> "sendmail: (accepting only local submissions)" would be less freebsd> surprising, I think. You can put this in your rc.conf: sendmail_submit_flags="-L sm-mta-submit -bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=loca lhost -OProcessTitlePrefix=sendmail-local-only" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 12: 3:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from totem.fix.no (totem.fix.no [80.91.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0786237B400; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:03:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by totem.fix.no (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D52E13C97; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:03:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:03:43 +0100 From: Anders Nordby To: dominic_marks@btinternet.com, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Cc: n_hibma@freebsd.org Subject: How to make USB scanners work in FreeBSD (well at least Agfa ones..) Message-ID: <20020324200343.GA24999@totem.fix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-message-flag: Outlook : A program to spread viri, but it can do mail too. X-PGP-Key: http://anders.fix.no/pgp/ X-PGP-Key-FingerPrint: 1E0F C53C D8DF 6A8F EAAD 19C5 D12A BC9F 0083 5956 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Attached are patches that makes scanning work with sane, using an Agfa Snapscan 1212U USB scanner for me. They are merely reworked from PRs 32652 and 32653 by ebakke@trolltech.com. NB: Only tested in 4.5-stable, not in -current (sorry). Patches should apply cleanly in -stable. It would be nice if more people could have a look at this, so that we can get hopefully get it in the tree sometime soon. Thanks. -- Anders. --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mypatch-usb.h" --- sys/dev/usb/usb.h.orig Tue Oct 31 23:59:35 2000 +++ sys/dev/usb/usb.h Wed Feb 20 01:52:35 2002 @@ -566,4 +566,7 @@ #define USB_GET_CM_OVER_DATA _IOR ('U', 130, int) #define USB_SET_CM_OVER_DATA _IOW ('U', 131, int) +/* Scanner device */ +#define USB_GET_DEVICE_ID _IOR('U', 140, int) + #endif /* _USB_H_ */ --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mypatch-uscanner.c_v2" --- sys/dev/usb/uscanner.c.orig Thu Feb 14 03:52:50 2002 +++ sys/dev/usb/uscanner.c Sun Feb 24 00:46:11 2002 @@ -222,6 +222,8 @@ int sc_refcnt; u_char sc_dying; + u_int16_t sc_vendor_id; + u_int16_t sc_product_id; }; #if defined(__NetBSD__) || defined(__OpenBSD__) @@ -233,7 +235,7 @@ d_write_t uscannerwrite; d_ioctl_t uscannerioctl; d_poll_t uscannerpoll; - +d_ioctl_t uscannerioctl; #define USCANNER_CDEV_MAJOR 156 Static struct cdevsw uscanner_cdevsw = { @@ -289,6 +291,8 @@ sc->sc_dev_flags = uscanner_lookup(uaa->vendor, uaa->product)->flags; sc->sc_udev = uaa->device; + sc->sc_vendor_id = uaa->vendor; + sc->sc_product_id = uaa->product; err = usbd_set_config_no(uaa->device, 1, 1); /* XXX */ if (err) { @@ -360,9 +364,10 @@ USB_GET_SC_OPEN(uscanner, unit, sc); - DPRINTFN(5, ("uscanneropen: flag=%d, mode=%d, unit=%d\n", + DPRINTFN(5, ("uscanneropen: flag=%d, mode=%d, unit=%d\n", flag, mode, unit)); + printf( "uscanneropen()\n" ); if (sc->sc_dying) return (ENXIO); @@ -696,9 +701,25 @@ int uscannerioctl(dev_t dev, u_long cmd, caddr_t addr, int flag, struct proc *p) { - return (EINVAL); + struct uscanner_softc* sc; + + USB_GET_SC( uscanner, USCANNERUNIT( dev ), sc ); + + if( sc->sc_dying ) + return( EIO ); + + switch( cmd ) { + case USB_GET_DEVICE_ID: + *(u_int32_t*)addr = ( sc->sc_vendor_id << 16 ) | sc->sc_product_id; + break; + default: + return EINVAL; + } + return 0; } #if defined(__FreeBSD__) DRIVER_MODULE(uscanner, uhub, uscanner_driver, uscanner_devclass, usbd_driver_load, 0); #endif + + --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=mypatch-sane-backends diff -Nur sane-backends.old/files/patch-backend_snapscan.c sane-backends/files/patch-backend_snapscan.c --- sane-backends.old/files/patch-backend_snapscan.c Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 +++ sane-backends/files/patch-backend_snapscan.c Tue Mar 5 23:49:15 2002 @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@ +--- backend/snapscan.c.bak Sun Dec 9 22:51:01 2001 ++++ backend/snapscan.c Sun Dec 9 22:51:01 2001 +@@ -1016,7 +1016,11 @@ + + vendor[0] = model[0] = '\0'; + ++#if defined( __FreeBSD__ ) ++ if(strstr (name, "uscanner")) ++#else /* __FreeBSD__ */ + if((strstr (name, "usb")) || (strstr (name, "USB"))) ++#endif /* __FreeBSD__ */ + { + DBG (DL_VERBOSE, "%s: Detected (kind of) an USB device\n", me); + +@@ -3540,3 +3544,4 @@ + * Revision 1.1 1997/10/13 02:25:54 charter + * Initial revision + * */ ++ diff -Nur sane-backends.old/files/patch-sanei_sanei_usb.c sane-backends/files/patch-sanei_sanei_usb.c --- sane-backends.old/files/patch-sanei_sanei_usb.c Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 +++ sane-backends/files/patch-sanei_sanei_usb.c Tue Mar 5 23:49:22 2002 @@ -0,0 +1,42 @@ +--- sanei/sanei_usb.c.bak Sun Dec 9 22:40:14 2001 ++++ sanei/sanei_usb.c Sun Dec 9 22:49:04 2001 +@@ -112,6 +112,9 @@ + SANE_Word * product) + { + SANE_Word vendorID, productID; ++#if defined( __FreeBSD__ ) ++ u_int32_t vendorproductID; ++#endif /* __FreeBSD__ */ + + #if defined (__linux__) + #define IOCTL_SCANNER_VENDOR _IOR('U', 0x20, int) +@@ -145,8 +148,24 @@ + if (product) + *product = productID; + #else /* not defined (__linux__) */ ++#if defined( __FreeBSD__ ) ++#define USB_GET_DEVICE_ID _IOR('U', 140, int) ++ /* read the vendo and product IDs via the IOCTLs */ ++ if( ioctl( fd, USB_GET_DEVICE_ID, &vendorproductID ) == -1 ) ++ { ++ DBG( 3, "sanei_usb_get_vendor_product: ioctl( productid ) of fd %d " ++ "failed: %s\n", fd, strerror( errno ) ); ++ } ++ productID = vendorproductID & 0xffff; ++ vendorID = ( vendorproductID >> 16 ) & 0xffff; ++ if( vendor ) ++ *vendor = vendorID; ++ if( product ) ++ *product = productID; ++#else /* __FreeBSD__ */ + vendorID = 0; + productID = 0; ++#endif /* __FreeBSD__ */ + #endif /* not defined (__linux__) */ + + if (!vendorID || !productID) +@@ -309,3 +328,4 @@ + *size = write_size; + return SANE_STATUS_GOOD; + } ++ --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 12: 5:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from damnhippie.dyndns.org (12-253-177-2.client.attbi.com [12.253.177.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3012437B41A for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:05:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.42.2] (peace.hippie.lan [172.22.42.2]) by damnhippie.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2OK5UU89126 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:05:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:05:37 -0700 Subject: Re: For Review: sendmail 8.12.2 import into -STABLE From: Ian To: freebsd-stable Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <15518.10673.452803.292181@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Read /etc/mail/README. It goes into great detail as to why this is > necessary and alternatives if you don't want a local submission daemon. Doh! I looked all over for things I should be reading but somehow missed this one completely. Thanks. > You can put this in your rc.conf: > > sendmail_submit_flags="-L sm-mta-submit -bd -q30m > -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost -OProcessTitlePrefix=sendmail-local-only" > I guess my point was, maybe it would be a good idea if /etc/defaults/rc.conf used that option to set the title to something like that by default. -- Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 12:26:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.113.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A049A37B404; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private.lan [192.168.0.2]) by pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2OKQmP85998; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:26:48 GMT (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3C9E3688.AA20FAF3@ntlworld.com> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:26:48 +0000 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For Review: sendmail 8.12.2 import into -STABLE References: <15513.38875.83457.102683@horsey.gshapiro.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you going to include the EINTR milter patch? -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 13:17:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B0E37B416 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:17:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2OLHoGd031063 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2OLHnAZ031060; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:17:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15518.17021.642217.652081@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:17:49 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: ian j hart Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For Review: sendmail 8.12.2 import into -STABLE In-Reply-To: <3C9E3688.AA20FAF3@ntlworld.com> References: <15513.38875.83457.102683@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9E3688.AA20FAF3@ntlworld.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ianjhart> Are you going to include the EINTR milter patch? Yes, when 8.12.3 is imported. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 14: 0:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (pi.yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A894E37B426 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g2OM0de93960; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:00:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:00:39 -0500 From: Bob K To: paul beard Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: problems rebuilding locate database Message-ID: <20020324170039.D1331@yip.org> References: <3C9CEDC8.4070001@mac.com> <041f01c1d2b2$bce32920$0900a8c0@max> <3C9D0E29.70801@mac.com> <3C9D65AC.30209@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C9D65AC.30209@mac.com>; from paulbeard@mac.com on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 09:35:40PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 09:35:40PM -0800, paul beard wrote: > well, my earlier shell commands to find the length of all the > files' paths were useless, but now that my young'uns are asleep, I > came up with this. > > find / -type d | awk '{ a=length; print $0, a}' | sort -T . -k > 2.1 -rnt ' ' -o sorted > > It works fine except for dumping the files with embedded spaces to > the bottom of the list. I still find no paths longer than 200 > characters, nowhere near the 1035 locate was griping about. Hmm. Perhaps you have some hard links to directories that may be causing a loop of some sort? Just a theory... -- Bob | It's pretty good, if you don't think about it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 14:32:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vulcan.rsasecurity.com (vulcan.rsasecurity.com [204.167.114.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CA0737B404 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdtihq24.securitydynamics.com by vulcan.rsasecurity.com via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) with SMTP; 24 Mar 2002 22:32:00 UT Received: from ebola.securitydynamics.com (ebola.securid.com [192.80.211.4]) by sdtihq24.securid.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09148 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from spirit.dynas.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ebola.securitydynamics.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id g2OMWhn08051 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21754 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2002 22:32:40 -0000 Received: from explorer.rsa.com (HELO mikko.rsa.com) (10.81.217.59) by spirit.dynas.se with SMTP; 24 Mar 2002 22:32:40 -0000 Received: (from mikko@localhost) by mikko.rsa.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2OMWb892781; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:32:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikko) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:32:37 -0800 (PST) From: Mikko Tyolajarvi Message-Id: <200203242232.g2OMWb892781@mikko.rsa.com> To: arno@RZ.FH-Augsburg.DE Cc: stable@freebsd.org Orig-To: Arno Schneider Subject: Re: usb printing to epson stylus photo 895 Newsgroups: local.freebsd.stable References: <20020324122634.A17372@rz.fh-augsburg.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In local.freebsd.stable you write: >I have a problem with an Epson Stylus Photo 895. The printer has only >a usb interface. When i power up the printer the console shows >uhub1: Texas Instruments General Purpose USB Hub, class 9/0, rev >1.10/1.01, addr 2 >uhub1: 2 ports with 0 removable, self powered >ulpt0: EPSON USB Printer, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 3, iclass 7/1 >ugen0: EPSON SP 895 Storage , rev 1.10/1.10, addr 4 >But when i try to print to /dev/ulpt0 the print head only moves a little >richt an left - nothing is printed. How/what do you print? I think these printers need a bunch of funky escape sequences in order to do anything useful. I'm using ghostscript + gimp-print (included in the port) with my Stylus Photo 1270. Gimp-print seems to support the 895, as device "escp2-895". Try using gs to produce a file from postscript input, and then send that file to the printer. I don't know if apsfilter can do The Right Thing for you. I'm using a custom print filter that runs ghostscript. The only gotcha was that in order to make it print reliably, I had to put a short sleep (1 second is enough) in the print filter, before sending any data to the printer. $.02, /Mikko -- Mikko Työläjärvi_______________________________________mikko@rsasecurity.com RSA Security To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 15: 5:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from greed.zenspider.com (sense-ryand-4.oz.net [216.39.167.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04B5F37B419 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:05:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 72539 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2002 23:05:22 -0000 Received: from wrath.zenspider.com (HELO private-client-ip-66.oz.net) (@216.39.167.5) by greed.zenspider.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2002 23:05:22 -0000 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:05:21 -0800 Subject: Re: ATA MFC - Suspend/resume causes panic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) Cc: Bryan Liesner , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Ryan Davis In-Reply-To: <3C9BC3A8.5020301@bellatlantic.net> Message-Id: <9DD7BADA-3F7B-11D6-B638-0030655293B0@zenspider.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 03:52 PM, Bryan Liesner wrote: > CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP1800+ (1544.55-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x662 Stepping = 2 I'm in the same boat, with much different hardware (700 mhz p3 sony viao z505 laptop). I'm going to go back to RELENG_4_5 because this make coffee shop work impossible, but I really hope it gets fixed soon so I can use the new wi driver changes. Bryan, have you tried Ian's patch (subsequent email)? I would, but I've got a deadline to meet very soon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 15:10:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DEBB37B404 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgeine (AUTH login) at adsl-63-198-133-39.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (HELO edinburgh) (sgeine@63.198.133.39) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2002 23:10:31 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Jesse Geddis" To: "Dave Uhring" , "Jonathan Chen" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , Subject: RE: top wrong again? Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:10:30 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG holy spam batman! it looks like majordomo is resending old messages. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave Uhring Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:56 PM To: sgeine@yahoo.com; Jonathan Chen Cc: Kris Kennaway; stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top wrong again? On Thursday 14 March 2002 23:38, Jesse Geddis wrote: > here, different machine while compiling the kernel. maybe this is > more along the lines of the original email: > With 90% idle, I'd expect to see most of your process running 0%; so > there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with your top output. OK, then try this one. I'm running make buildworld on a 4.5-RELEASE system with sources CVSup'd about 1/2 hour ago. last pid: 20654; load averages: 1.32, 1.25, 0.99 up 0+00:31:20 23:50:29 61 processes: 4 running, 57 sleeping CPU states: 89.1% user, 0.0% nice, 10.3% system, 0.6% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 50M Active, 304M Inact, 74M Wired, 360K Cache, 61M Buf, 73M Free Swap: 384M Total, 384M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 157 duhring 28 0 18088K 16988K RUN 1:10 3.37% 3.37% XF86_Mach64 20653 root 56 0 3848K 3752K RUN 0:00 32.00% 1.56% cc1 169 duhring 2 0 7760K 5572K poll 0:22 1.07% 1.07% gkrellm 202 duhring 2 0 21324K 17212K select 0:05 0.59% 0.59% kmail 20652 root -6 0 1600K 1432K pipdwt 0:00 5.00% 0.24% cpp0 197 duhring 2 0 14736K 9776K select 0:03 0.05% 0.05% kdeinit 205 duhring 2 0 20552K 16988K poll 0:19 0.00% 0.00% knode 164 duhring 2 0 3124K 2848K select 0:09 0.00% 0.00% rxvt 2171 duhring 28 0 2008K 1732K RUN 0:03 0.00% 0.00% rxvt 101 root 2 0 912K 520K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% moused To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 15:17:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mikea.ath.cx (okc-65-30-192-11.mmcable.com [65.30.192.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FE637B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mikea@localhost) by mikea.ath.cx (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g2ONHAQ01285 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:17:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mikea) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:17:10 -0600 From: mikea To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top wrong again? Message-ID: <20020324171710.B1249@mikea.ath.cx> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sgeine@yahoo.com on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:10:30PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:10:30PM -0800, Jesse Geddis wrote: > holy spam batman! it looks like majordomo is resending old messages. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave Uhring > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:56 PM > To: sgeine@yahoo.com; Jonathan Chen > Cc: Kris Kennaway; stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: top wrong again? > > > On Thursday 14 March 2002 23:38, Jesse Geddis wrote: > > here, different machine while compiling the kernel. maybe this is > > more along the lines of the original email: > > > With 90% idle, I'd expect to see most of your process running 0%; so > > there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with your top output. > > OK, then try this one. I'm running make buildworld on a 4.5-RELEASE > system with sources CVSup'd about 1/2 hour ago. > > last pid: 20654; load averages: 1.32, 1.25, 0.99 > up 0+00:31:20 23:50:29 > 61 processes: 4 running, 57 sleeping > CPU states: 89.1% user, 0.0% nice, 10.3% system, 0.6% interrupt, > 0.0% idle > Mem: 50M Active, 304M Inact, 74M Wired, 360K Cache, 61M Buf, 73M Free > Swap: 384M Total, 384M Free > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU > COMMAND > 157 duhring 28 0 18088K 16988K RUN 1:10 3.37% 3.37% > XF86_Mach64 > 20653 root 56 0 3848K 3752K RUN 0:00 32.00% 1.56% cc1 > 169 duhring 2 0 7760K 5572K poll 0:22 1.07% 1.07% > gkrellm > 202 duhring 2 0 21324K 17212K select 0:05 0.59% 0.59% kmail > 20652 root -6 0 1600K 1432K pipdwt 0:00 5.00% 0.24% cpp0 > 197 duhring 2 0 14736K 9776K select 0:03 0.05% 0.05% > kdeinit > 205 duhring 2 0 20552K 16988K poll 0:19 0.00% 0.00% knode > 164 duhring 2 0 3124K 2848K select 0:09 0.00% 0.00% rxvt > 2171 duhring 28 0 2008K 1732K RUN 0:03 0.00% 0.00% rxvt > 101 root 2 0 912K 520K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% > moused Looks much like what I saw during a make buildworld last Wed., except that I run setiathome as a soaker, so it'd be up at the top. I don't see anything wrong. How about telling us what you think is wrong with the output? -- Mike Andrews mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin since 1964 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 15:20:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B77CA37B404 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgeine (AUTH login) at adsl-63-198-133-39.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (HELO edinburgh) (sgeine@63.198.133.39) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2002 23:20:12 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Jesse Geddis" To: "mikea" , Subject: RE: top wrong again? Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:20:12 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020324171710.B1249@mikea.ath.cx> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG old emails from earlier this month. the result of this thread was the processes aren't living long enough to show up accurately in top which is probably likely. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of mikea Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 3:17 PM To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top wrong again? On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:10:30PM -0800, Jesse Geddis wrote: > holy spam batman! it looks like majordomo is resending old messages. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave Uhring > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:56 PM > To: sgeine@yahoo.com; Jonathan Chen > Cc: Kris Kennaway; stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: top wrong again? > > > On Thursday 14 March 2002 23:38, Jesse Geddis wrote: > > here, different machine while compiling the kernel. maybe this is > > more along the lines of the original email: > > > With 90% idle, I'd expect to see most of your process running 0%; so > > there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with your top output. > > OK, then try this one. I'm running make buildworld on a 4.5-RELEASE > system with sources CVSup'd about 1/2 hour ago. > > last pid: 20654; load averages: 1.32, 1.25, 0.99 > up 0+00:31:20 23:50:29 > 61 processes: 4 running, 57 sleeping > CPU states: 89.1% user, 0.0% nice, 10.3% system, 0.6% interrupt, > 0.0% idle > Mem: 50M Active, 304M Inact, 74M Wired, 360K Cache, 61M Buf, 73M Free > Swap: 384M Total, 384M Free > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU > COMMAND > 157 duhring 28 0 18088K 16988K RUN 1:10 3.37% 3.37% > XF86_Mach64 > 20653 root 56 0 3848K 3752K RUN 0:00 32.00% 1.56% cc1 > 169 duhring 2 0 7760K 5572K poll 0:22 1.07% 1.07% > gkrellm > 202 duhring 2 0 21324K 17212K select 0:05 0.59% 0.59% kmail > 20652 root -6 0 1600K 1432K pipdwt 0:00 5.00% 0.24% cpp0 > 197 duhring 2 0 14736K 9776K select 0:03 0.05% 0.05% > kdeinit > 205 duhring 2 0 20552K 16988K poll 0:19 0.00% 0.00% knode > 164 duhring 2 0 3124K 2848K select 0:09 0.00% 0.00% rxvt > 2171 duhring 28 0 2008K 1732K RUN 0:03 0.00% 0.00% rxvt > 101 root 2 0 912K 520K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% > moused Looks much like what I saw during a make buildworld last Wed., except that I run setiathome as a soaker, so it'd be up at the top. I don't see anything wrong. How about telling us what you think is wrong with the output? -- Mike Andrews mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin since 1964 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 15:26: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from greed.zenspider.com (sense-ryand-4.oz.net [216.39.167.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A35037B49C for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 72739 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2002 23:25:31 -0000 Received: from wrath.zenspider.com (HELO private-client-ip-66.oz.net) (@216.39.167.5) by greed.zenspider.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2002 23:25:31 -0000 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:25:30 -0800 Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) Cc: Dima Dorfman , FreeBSD Stable To: Randy Bush From: Ryan Davis In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <6E639CB8-3F7E-11D6-B638-0030655293B0@zenspider.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 10:45 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p /var/tmp/temproot/ >>> mtree:No such file or directory >> Looks like /usr/sbin isn't in your PATH. > > something changed in bash 5 on this and only this host. it wanted > 'export' before 'PATH=' in /etc/profile. > > thanks for the help Maybe a naive question, but: Shouldn't the build system (including mergemaster) be impervious to side-effects from things like PATH? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 15:38:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F118F37B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:38:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020324233831.FZFX2951.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:38:31 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2ONcUh82865; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:38:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:38:30 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Jonathan Belson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Network slowdowns... Message-ID: <20020324153830.A82432@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <3C9C7D92.1000706@witchspace.com> <3C9DACD5.8070403@witchspace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C9DACD5.8070403@witchspace.com>; from jon@witchspace.com on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 10:39:17AM +0000 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 10:39:17AM +0000, Jonathan Belson wrote: > Jonathan Belson wrote: > > Hiya > > > > > > I've recently been experiencing slowdowns on my server's outgoing > > network port, which occur after half a day to a day after the last > > reboot. > > After trying a few things that were suggested to me, I realised > what the problem was. Without the DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT option my > DHCP client couldn't re-lease the IP from my ISP's DHCP servers > and presumably ended up using an invalid IP.. > > I've added the following firewall rules: > > # DHCP > ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 67 setup > ${fwcmd} add pass udp from any to ${oip} 67 > ${fwcmd} add pass udp from ${oip} 67 to any > ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 68 setup > ${fwcmd} add pass udp from any to ${oip} 68 > ${fwcmd} add pass udp from ${oip} 68 to any > > and removed the line > > ${fwcmd} add deny all from 0.0.0.0/8 to any via ${oif} You can be a little more specific about it if you want. First, DHCP never uses TCP even though those ports are reserved. Second, ports 67 and 68 are always the source and destination and vice-versa. Also, you may know the range of IPs in which your DHCP server lives. I used to use the following rules in my rc.firewall. The "external" rules really mean this machine is a DHCP client, and the "internal" rules were for the machine acting as a DHCP server for the internal NAT'ed network (it is assumed that UDP from $iip to valid internal addresses is freely passed elsewhere in the rules). To use these, for any interface that is being configured via DHCP, you must also set, dhcps_if0="192.0.2.0/24" dhcpc_if0="192.0.2.0/24" Where the first is the IP range for the server for interface if0, and the second is the valid range of client IPs that may be addressed to if0. If you don't have any idea what a value might be, use "any". Obviously, any valid IP address or network format can be used for either. ############ # Let external DHCP work for dhclient_interface in ${network_interfaces}; do eval ifconfig_args=\$ifconfig_${dhclient_interface} case ${ifconfig_args} in [Dd][Hh][Cc][Pp]) eval dhcpc_range=\$dhcpc_$dhclient_interface eval dhcps_range=\$dhcps_$dhclient_interface $fwcmd add pass udp from ${dhcpc_range} 68 to ${dhcps_range} 67 out via ${dhclient_interface} $fwcmd add pass udp from ${dhcps_range} 67 to ${dhcpc_range} 68 in via ${dhclient_interface} $fwcmd add pass udp from 0.0.0.0 68 to 255.255.255.255 67 out via ${dhclient_interface} $fwcmd add pass udp from ${dhcps_range} 67 to 255.255.255.255 68 in via ${dhclient_interface} ;; esac done ############ # Let internal DHCP work if [ "$dhcpd_interface" ]; then $fwcmd add pass udp from 0.0.0.0 68 to 255.255.255.255 67 in via ${dhcpd_interface} $fwcmd add pass udp from ${iip} 67 to 255.255.255.255 68 out via ${dhcpd_interface} fi -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 15:45:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C2237B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:45:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020324234546.OXWL1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:45:46 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2ONjgf82888; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:45:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:45:42 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Ryan Davis Cc: Randy Bush , Dima Dorfman , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory Message-ID: <20020324154542.B82432@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <6E639CB8-3F7E-11D6-B638-0030655293B0@zenspider.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <6E639CB8-3F7E-11D6-B638-0030655293B0@zenspider.com>; from ryand-bsd@zenspider.com on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:25:30PM -0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:25:30PM -0800, Ryan Davis wrote: > > On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 10:45 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > > >>> mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p /var/tmp/temproot/ > >>> mtree:No such file or directory > >> Looks like /usr/sbin isn't in your PATH. > > > > something changed in bash 5 on this and only this host. it wanted > > 'export' before 'PATH=' in /etc/profile. > > > > thanks for the help > > Maybe a naive question, but: > > Shouldn't the build system (including mergemaster) be impervious to > side-effects from things like PATH? I could easily envision situations where one might want to play games with one's PATH when using mergemaster(8). I think having mergemaster(8) toss aside the user's PATH and essentially hardcode its own makes the tool much less flexible, violates POLA, and generally violates the whole purpose of PATH and environmental variables. I think giving mergemaster(8) a PATH that includes all of the tools it needs to run is not a lot to ask. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 15:48:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65B537B404; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:48:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 4.00) id 16pHjB-0000tt-00; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:48:45 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Crist J. Clark" Cc: Ryan Davis , Dima Dorfman , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory References: <6E639CB8-3F7E-11D6-B638-0030655293B0@zenspider.com> <20020324154542.B82432@blossom.cjclark.org> Message-Id: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 15:48:45 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I think giving mergemaster(8) a PATH that includes all of the tools it > needs to run is not a lot to ask. it would more normal to this over-attenuated hacker to give commands explicit paths randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 16: 0:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skif.net (ns.skif.net [195.58.224.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533E637B416 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.58.224.122] (HELO dru.dn.ua) by skif.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 4041786 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 02:00:12 +0200 Received: (from admin@localhost) by dru.dn.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2NFNRN11477 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 17:23:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from admin) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 17:23:27 +0200 From: "Vladislav V. Zhuk" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Troubles with new ATA !!! Message-ID: <20020323152327.GB1086@dru.dn.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! sorry for my english :( I have system: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #8: Sat Mar 23 18:09:07 EET 2002 I do not have secondary IDE interface on my box. (it disabled in BIOS and disabled in kernel config). But new ATA driver occupy irq 15: atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 My multiport card use irq 15 and after disk mounting system die (in single user mode system work normal) Release 4.5 do not have this problem. How can I do to solve this trouble ??? -- Vladislav V. Zhuk (06267)3-60-03 admin@dru.dn.ua 2:465/197@FidoNet.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 16: 2:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tp.databus.com (p72-186.acedsl.com [66.114.72.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A39C37B404 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:02:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from barney@localhost) by tp.databus.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2P026V79775 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:02:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from barney) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:02:06 -0500 From: Barney Wolff To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory Message-ID: <20020324190206.A79691@tp.databus.com> References: <6E639CB8-3F7E-11D6-B638-0030655293B0@zenspider.com> <20020324154542.B82432@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from randy@psg.com on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:48:45PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I agree vigorously with Randy's point. If people want to play games, they can edit mergemaster or, as with everything else, we should have it dot an optional /etc/mergemaster.conf file after setting its defaults. Would /usr/bin/make buildworld do funny things if PATH were odd? On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:48:45PM -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > > I think giving mergemaster(8) a PATH that includes all of the tools it > > needs to run is not a lot to ask. > > it would more normal to this over-attenuated hacker to give commands > explicit paths -- Barney Wolff I never met a computer I didn't like. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 16:10:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sherryl.salk.edu (sherryl.salk.edu [198.202.70.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A18237B405 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from merckx.salk.edu (merckx.salk.edu [198.202.70.90]) by sherryl.salk.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2P0A1NR066515; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:10:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:08:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jorge Aldana To: Willie Viljoen Cc: Razvan Cremenescu , Subject: RE: my system doesn't recognize the two cd-rom units i have In-Reply-To: <20020324203241.T307-100000@phoenix.vh.laserfence.net> Message-ID: <20020324160310.X27945-100000@merckx.salk.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Even more odd I made a boot CD of 4.5-20020322-STABLE and I was able to boot from my IDE CD-ROM but then after I configured all the install settings I picked DVC/CD-ROM as the install media and I got "CD-ROM not recongnized"? It obviously can see it as it booted up the CD to begin with, odd thing is it can't see it after choosing the install settings, I didn't remove anything or add anything from the default devices it uses on the initial boot up? Anyone else experiencing this? Jorge On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Willie Viljoen wrote: > That should actually work fine... can you attatch the output from dmesg to > an email for me? > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Razvan Cremenescu wrote: > > > > > well, i am aware of that, but it worked since now... > > > > what can i add to this:? > > > > "# ATA and ATAPI devices > > device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 > > device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 > > device ata > > device atadisk # ATA disk drives > > device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives > > device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives > > device atapist # ATAPI tape drives > > options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering" > > > > i found this in LINT also. that's all there is. > > > > > > Razvan Cremenescu, > > > > ================================= > > Network Operations Center Pitesti > > > > e-mail: cremenescu@terrasat.ro > > Tel: +40-48-250015 int. 25 > > +40-48-251112 int. 25 > > Mobile: +40-92-685805 > > ================================= > > Terra Sat Comp > > Resita 1700 CS, Romania > > http://www.terrasat.ro > > company@terrasat.ro > > Tel: +40-55-220012 > > +40-55-220013 > > Fax: +40-55-220117 > > ================================= > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- > Willie Viljoen > Private IT Consultant > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue > Universitas > Bloemfontein > 9321 > > South Africa > > +27 51 522 15 60, a/h +27 51 522 44 36 > +27 82 404 03 27 > > will@laserfence.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 16:16:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7DD37B417 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:16:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020325001623.PVAL1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 00:16:23 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2P0GNe83026; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:16:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:16:23 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Randy Bush Cc: Ryan Davis , Dima Dorfman , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory Message-ID: <20020324161623.B82944@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <6E639CB8-3F7E-11D6-B638-0030655293B0@zenspider.com> <20020324154542.B82432@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from randy@psg.com on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:48:45PM -0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:48:45PM -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > > I think giving mergemaster(8) a PATH that includes all of the tools it > > needs to run is not a lot to ask. > > it would more normal to this over-attenuated hacker to give commands > explicit paths Again, I think this is a bad idea. I see places one might want to take advangate of PATH. Example: You have a computer with two FreeBSD systems living on it. They are different versions. You totally bork one system and boot from the second system to repair the first. The mtree(8) files (or other tools) on the first system (the one being saved) are not compatible with the binaries on the running, recovery system. You can set the PATH as appropriate to run the binaries on the other system (in concert with -m and -D) and repair the messed up system despite incompatibilities. (Sure, you could still have compatibility problems, but this is one place you have the ability to configure it as you wish.) -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 16:17:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dc-mx08.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx08.cluster0.hsacorp.net [209.225.8.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF7937B417 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:17:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [24.217.145.63] (HELO there) by dc-mx08.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.3) with SMTP id 27622319; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:17:05 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dave Uhring To: , "Jonathan Chen" Subject: Re: top wrong again? Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:17:04 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 24 March 2002 05:10 pm, Jesse Geddis wrote: > holy spam batman! it looks like majordomo is resending old messages. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave Uhring > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:56 PM > To: sgeine@yahoo.com; Jonathan Chen > Cc: Kris Kennaway; stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: top wrong again? > > On Thursday 14 March 2002 23:38, Jesse Geddis wrote: > > here, different machine while compiling the kernel. maybe this is > > more along the lines of the original email: > > > > With 90% idle, I'd expect to see most of your process running 0%; > > so there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with your top output. > > OK, then try this one. I'm running make buildworld on a 4.5-RELEASE > system with sources CVSup'd about 1/2 hour ago. > I didn't receive that one again. How come other people got it?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 16:17:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22CD37B428 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2P0Gnru083666; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:46:50 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Subject: Re: Troubles with new ATA !!! From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Vladislav V. Zhuk" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020323152327.GB1086@dru.dn.ua> References: <20020323152327.GB1086@dru.dn.ua> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Date: 25 Mar 2002 11:46:48 +1130 Message-Id: <1017015410.371.2.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5 X-Spam-Level: (-3.4) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 02:53, Vladislav V. Zhuk wrote: > My multiport card use irq 15 and after disk mounting system die > (in single user mode system work normal) > > Release 4.5 do not have this problem. > > How can I do to solve this trouble ??? I believe you can possibly work around it by doing 'atacontrol detach 1' but I am not 100% certain. It should probably be fixed in the code but I don't know how to do that :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 16:19:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4DB037B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgeine (AUTH login) at adsl-63-198-133-39.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (HELO edinburgh) (sgeine@63.198.133.39) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2002 00:19:42 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Jesse Geddis" To: "Dave Uhring" , "Jonathan Chen" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , Subject: RE: top wrong again? Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:19:42 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG was only the ppl in the original to: and cc: fields who did. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave Uhring Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 4:17 PM To: sgeine@yahoo.com; Jonathan Chen Cc: Kris Kennaway; stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top wrong again? On Sunday 24 March 2002 05:10 pm, Jesse Geddis wrote: > holy spam batman! it looks like majordomo is resending old messages. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave Uhring > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:56 PM > To: sgeine@yahoo.com; Jonathan Chen > Cc: Kris Kennaway; stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: top wrong again? > > On Thursday 14 March 2002 23:38, Jesse Geddis wrote: > > here, different machine while compiling the kernel. maybe this is > > more along the lines of the original email: > > > > With 90% idle, I'd expect to see most of your process running 0%; > > so there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with your top output. > > OK, then try this one. I'm running make buildworld on a 4.5-RELEASE > system with sources CVSup'd about 1/2 hour ago. > I didn't receive that one again. How come other people got it?? 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 16:21: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B349C37B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:20:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2P0Kpru083803; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:50:51 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Subject: RE: my system doesn't recognize the two cd-rom units i have From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Jorge Aldana Cc: Willie Viljoen , Razvan Cremenescu , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020324160310.X27945-100000@merckx.salk.edu> References: <20020324160310.X27945-100000@merckx.salk.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Date: 25 Mar 2002 11:50:51 +1130 Message-Id: <1017015655.371.7.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5 required=5 X-Spam-Level: (-5) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2002-03-25 at 11:38, Jorge Aldana wrote: > Even more odd I made a boot CD of 4.5-20020322-STABLE and I was able to > boot from my IDE CD-ROM but then after I configured all the install settings I > picked DVC/CD-ROM as the install media and I got "CD-ROM not recongnized"? > > It obviously can see it as it booted up the CD to begin with, odd thing is it > can't see it after choosing the install settings, I didn't remove anything or > add anything from the default devices it uses on the initial boot up? > > Anyone else experiencing this? Soren's ATA MFC broke CDROM detection I believe. The BIOS still sees the CDROM so you can boot off it, but once the OS tries to detect it, it fails and so you are stuck in an odd position :) I believe he is working on a fix for it (and the panic on resume one) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 16:31:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF1E37B405 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020325003140.HMNZ2951.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 00:31:40 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2P0Vej83083; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:31:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:31:40 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Mike Eubanks Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl during make buildworld Message-ID: <20020324163140.C82944@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <004901c1d366$1023ef80$010aa8c0@traversedair.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <004901c1d366$1023ef80$010aa8c0@traversedair.net>; from vervelstorm@earthlink.net on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 10:59:44AM -0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 10:59:44AM -0800, Mike Eubanks wrote: > I am trying to do a complete system build and upgrade to FreeBSD 4.5.0 > STABLE. The system doing the compiling is FreeBSD 4.0. The following > errors were encountered using the 'make buildworld' command in /usr/src. > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl > cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../../../../con > trib > /perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i38 > 6/us > r/include -L/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl -static > -o m > iniperl miniperlmain.o opmini.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../l > ibperl/libperl.a -lm -lcrypt -lutil > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > Abort trap > Abort trap > cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../../../../contrib > /per > l5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/in > clud > e -c perlmain.c > *** Error code 134 > *** Error code 134 > 2 errors > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > ELF binary type not known. Use "brandelf" to brand it. > > I tried to re-simulate the error by changing to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/ > and executing make. This is the output I received. Can you do that again with, # make -dl So we can see exactly which command is being executed. Looks like we may be missing a crosstool? -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 16:33:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from greed.zenspider.com (sense-ryand-4.oz.net [216.39.167.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7170137B417 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 73271 invoked by uid 1000); 25 Mar 2002 00:33:51 -0000 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:33:51 -0800 From: Ryan Davis To: "Crist J. Clark" Cc: Randy Bush , Dima Dorfman , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory Message-ID: <20020324163351.A73171@greed.zenspider.com> References: <6E639CB8-3F7E-11D6-B638-0030655293B0@zenspider.com> <20020324154542.B82432@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020324154542.B82432@blossom.cjclark.org>; from cjc@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:45:42PM -0800 X-URL: http://www.zenspider.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-03-24T15:45:42, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > Shouldn't the build system (including mergemaster) be impervious to > > side-effects from things like PATH? > > I could easily envision situations where one might want to play games > with one's PATH when using mergemaster(8). I think having > mergemaster(8) toss aside the user's PATH and essentially hardcode its > own makes the tool much less flexible, violates POLA, and generally > violates the whole purpose of PATH and environmental variables. Call me wacky, but "play games when using mergemaster" == command line option in my book. Good Configuration Management would probably state that the build and configuration tools should do the same thing every time regardless of how wonky my environment is. Only when I say "no no mergemaster, this is a special case" should it act outside the norm. Translation: the rest of us should have repeatable results across ALL of our systems. I think taking this step (for all of the build systems, including ports) would be a GoodThing. It would help the 90% case quite a bit and probably quiet the mailing list too. I've seen weird cases lately where the solution to some poor fool's port building problem is "Take '.' out of your path". That's just NOT going to help us increase the usability of our favorite OS, is it? We should do everything in our power to make stable and ports and clean and usable as possible. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 17: 5:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBE537B400; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2P15ii04124; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:05:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2P15gL43770; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:05:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:05:01 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20020324.180501.53140478.imp@village.org> To: ryand-freebsd@ZenSpider.com Cc: cjc@FreeBSD.ORG, randy@psg.com, dima@trit.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20020324163351.A73171@greed.zenspider.com> References: <6E639CB8-3F7E-11D6-B638-0030655293B0@zenspider.com> <20020324154542.B82432@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020324163351.A73171@greed.zenspider.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <20020324163351.A73171@greed.zenspider.com> Ryan Davis writes: : On 2002-03-24T15:45:42, Crist J. Clark wrote: : : > > Shouldn't the build system (including mergemaster) be impervious to : > > side-effects from things like PATH? : > : > I could easily envision situations where one might want to play games : > with one's PATH when using mergemaster(8). I think having : > mergemaster(8) toss aside the user's PATH and essentially hardcode its : > own makes the tool much less flexible, violates POLA, and generally : > violates the whole purpose of PATH and environmental variables. : : Call me wacky, but "play games when using mergemaster" == command line : option in my book. Good Configuration Management would probably state : that the build and configuration tools should do the same thing every : time regardless of how wonky my environment is. Only when I say "no no : mergemaster, this is a special case" should it act outside the norm. : : Translation: the rest of us should have repeatable results across ALL : of our systems. : : I think taking this step (for all of the build systems, including : ports) would be a GoodThing. It would help the 90% case quite a bit : and probably quiet the mailing list too. I've seen weird cases lately : where the solution to some poor fool's port building problem is "Take : '.' out of your path". That's just NOT going to help us increase the : usability of our favorite OS, is it? We should do everything in our : power to make stable and ports and clean and usable as possible. Personally, I'd rather see most of mergemaster be a three way merge, rather than how it is done now. Meaning that you have some base FreeBSD version. This gets checked into CVS (or some other scm), that I'll call the local repo. The user hacks on it and installs files that are then committed back into local repo. Time passes, you do an upgrade. mergemaster does a cvs diff -u -r base-version -r HEAD on each of the files on the FreeBSD cvs repo and applies those diffs to the local repo, allowing one to then install from there. This works well for almost all the /etc files, except those that hold passwords (like the opiekeys, master_password etc). Of course, you could likely do this w/o the local repo, and apply the patches directly to the /etc files (or to a copy that you then copy back). One would then need to keep a database of versions, or mandate that you can't remove $FreeBSD$ from the files. Patches that fail to apply are then punted back to the user for resolution. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 17:29: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6686A37B405 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu (allbery@VPN57.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.138.57]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g2P1Srw29139 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:28:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory From: Brandon S Allbery KF8NH To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020324190206.A79691@tp.databus.com> References: <6E639CB8-3F7E-11D6-B638-0030655293B0@zenspider.com> <20020324154542.B82432@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020324190206.A79691@tp.databus.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Date: 24 Mar 2002 20:28:47 -0500 Message-Id: <1017019731.18548.6.camel@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 19:02, Barney Wolff wrote: > Would /usr/bin/make buildworld do funny things if PATH were odd? I've been trying hard to not find out; enough things break on ECE facilitized FreeBSD systems as it is, because /usr/local/bin has all the GNU crap in it so users get roughly consistent behavior across platforms. (Thankfully, most of it "goes away" just by turning off arla....) -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][japh] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university ["better check the oblivious first" -ke6sls] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 17:39:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749B337B405 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu (allbery@VPN57.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.138.57]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g2P1dZw29590 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:39:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory From: Brandon S Allbery KF8NH To: FreeBSD Stable In-Reply-To: <20020324161623.B82944@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <6E639CB8-3F7E-11D6-B638-0030655293B0@zenspider.com> <20020324154542.B82432@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020324161623.B82944@blossom.cjclark.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Date: 24 Mar 2002 20:39:28 -0500 Message-Id: <1017020372.18548.11.camel@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 19:16, Crist J. Clark wrote: > Again, I think this is a bad idea. I see places one might want to take > advangate of PATH. Example: So you have e.g. "mergemaster -E" which keeps the user's environment, and otherwise sanitize it. Mergemaster strikes me as something critical enough that you *really* want a known toolchain when it's running; it would be Bad if (say) the difference between FreeBSD "ln" and GNU "ln" caused mergemaster to break things if it ran the wrong one. -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][japh] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university ["better check the oblivious first" -ke6sls] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 18: 3:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A69A37B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:03:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020325020321.VEFK2626.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 02:03:21 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2P23Lp83249; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:03:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 18:03:21 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Ryan Davis Cc: Randy Bush , Dima Dorfman , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory Message-ID: <20020324180321.D82944@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <6E639CB8-3F7E-11D6-B638-0030655293B0@zenspider.com> <20020324154542.B82432@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020324163351.A73171@greed.zenspider.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020324163351.A73171@greed.zenspider.com>; from ryand-freebsd@ZenSpider.com on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 04:33:51PM -0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 04:33:51PM -0800, Ryan Davis wrote: > On 2002-03-24T15:45:42, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > > > Shouldn't the build system (including mergemaster) be impervious to > > > side-effects from things like PATH? > > > > I could easily envision situations where one might want to play games > > with one's PATH when using mergemaster(8). I think having > > mergemaster(8) toss aside the user's PATH and essentially hardcode its > > own makes the tool much less flexible, violates POLA, and generally > > violates the whole purpose of PATH and environmental variables. > > Call me wacky, but "play games when using mergemaster" == command line > option in my book. Good Configuration Management would probably state > that the build and configuration tools should do the same thing every > time regardless of how wonky my environment is. No way. Take the MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX environmental variable. People change this all of the time. You would hear much screaming if you decided that people couldn't customize their builds. If you have a wonky environment it is either because (a) you know what you are doing and you want it that way or (b) you don't know what you are doing and may have a broken environment. For people in (a), they want the tools to do what they are told to do. They don't want to have to hack the mergemaster(8) script or bsd.*.mk files in order for them to behave as they want. People in group (b) should fix their environments. If they need help, there's -questions. Anyway, does this really have anything to do with the original question? Now that I actually look at mergemaster(8), #!/bin/sh # mergemaster # Compare files created by /usr/src/etc/Makefile (or the directory # the user specifies) with the currently installed copies. # Copyright 1998-2001 Douglas Barton # DougB@FreeBSD.org # $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/mergemaster/mergemaster.sh,v 1.6.2.9 2001/08/11 20:27:52 dougb Exp $ PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin It does, and has always, clobbered PATH. (Hmm... I guess I musta had to hack that line in the past. Coulda sworn I did it from the command line.) -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 19: 7:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trex.uia.net (mail.uia.net [66.146.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4455137B404 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:07:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from thundershock.uia.net (liam.uia.net [66.146.25.2] (may be forged)) by trex.uia.net (8.11.1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g2P37Sd88267 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:07:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020324190719.00b6a1b8@mail.uia.net> X-Sender: jax@mail.uia.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:07:28 -0800 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org From: Liam Reimers Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 19:55:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.webgator.com (ns1.webgator.com [63.70.62.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C986C37B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by ns1.webgator.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA81305 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:22:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dave@webgator.com) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:22:51 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Hummel To: Subject: RE: ATA MFC - Suspend/resume causes panicA Message-ID: <20020324191841.U81291-100000@ns1.webgator.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ian Dowse - thanks for posting the patch. It works great and saved me a lot of pain. For the record, I have never anything like this before, and I've been doing stable builds on this same hardware since 4.2 (about every 6 weeks). My error was: ata0 resetting devices .. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x70 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc01da9e8 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc03b56dc frame pointer = 0x10:0xc03b5700 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = net tty bio cam trap number = 12 panic: page fault To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 20:28:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.theapt.org (adsl-208-201-244-166.sonic.net [208.201.244.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3257137B416 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12650 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2002 04:28:36 -0000 Received: from adsl-208-201-244-160.sonic.net (HELO ?208.201.244.160?) (208.201.244.160) by 0 with SMTP; 25 Mar 2002 04:28:36 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: freebsd-misc@mail.theapt.org Message-Id: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:28:08 -0800 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Peter Hessler Subject: make: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to update my 4.5-stable system, and I keep getting the error "make: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected" I try to run "make cleandir" and it fails with that error message. Any of the other make commands that are executed in the /usr/src directory fail the exact same way. I have deleted all of /usr/src, and re cvsup'd, with same results. Been like this for about 10 days. I think I changed my make.conf, but I copied the one from /usr/src/etc/defaults to /etc/defaults. Dmesg, and my build script are at [http://www.theapt.org/freebsd.html] I'm fairly certain I messed up a config file or two, but I don't know what files I messed up. -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 21:40:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chen.org.nz (adsl-210.54.19.51.quicksilver.net.nz [210.54.19.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E3837B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:40:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by chen.org.nz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2P5eB324120; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:40:11 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:40:11 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Peter Hessler Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected Message-ID: <20020325174011.A24006@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from freebsd-misc@theapt.org on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:28:08PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:28:08PM -0800, Peter Hessler wrote: > I am trying to update my 4.5-stable system, and I keep getting the > error "make: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected" The error text you're getting shows that you aren't using the standard make in /usr/bin. Looks like you're invoking GNU make instead - not a good idea; it should have been installed as "gmake" and not "make". -- Jonathan Chen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 21:51: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84F537B405; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from hyperion ([24.156.109.151]) by fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.04.06 201-253-122-122-106-20020109) with ESMTP id <20020325055050.POIV4475.fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@hyperion>; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 00:50:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 00:50:53 -0500 Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) Cc: "Crist J. Clark" , Ryan Davis , Dima Dorfman , FreeBSD Stable To: Randy Bush From: Joe Abley In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <448F3829-3FB4-11D6-A588-00039312C852@automagic.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at fep04-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.156.109.151] using ID at Mon, 25 Mar 2002 00:50:49 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 06:48 , Randy Bush wrote: >> I think giving mergemaster(8) a PATH that includes all of the tools it >> needs to run is not a lot to ask. > > it would more normal to this over-attenuated hacker to give commands > explicit paths Or at least have mergemaster extend PATH to include well-known directories if it couldn't find things in the current path that it needed. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 21:52:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DBC237B405 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgeine (AUTH login) at adsl-63-198-133-39.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (HELO edinburgh) (sgeine@63.198.133.39) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2002 05:52:40 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Jesse Geddis" To: "FreeBSD-STABLE" Subject: attempted exploits Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:52:40 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG wow, this person is quite effective. they've been trying this since this morning 4mins after i got my web server up. been doing it every half hour for 7 hours lol. trying to execute arbitrary Windows code on a FreeBSD server! [Sun Mar 24 20:41:55 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe [Sun Mar 24 20:42:05 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..À¯../winnt/system32/cmd.exe [Sun Mar 24 20:42:10 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe [Sun Mar 24 20:42:29 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe [Sun Mar 24 21:13:11 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/root.exe [Sun Mar 24 21:13:12 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/MSADC/root.exe [Sun Mar 24 21:13:13 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe [Sun Mar 24 21:13:14 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe [Sun Mar 24 21:13:15 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe [Sun Mar 24 21:13:17 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/_vti_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e xe [Sun Mar 24 21:13:19 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/_mem_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e xe [Sun Mar 24 21:13:20 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/msadc/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c/..Á../..Á../..Á../winnt/s ystem32 /cmd.exe Jesse Geddis "My fellow Americans, I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." --Ronald Reagan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 21:57:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6BB37B400 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2P5v8i05438; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:57:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2P5v7f01050; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:57:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:56:03 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20020324.225603.121860647.imp@village.org> To: jonc@chen.org.nz Cc: freebsd-misc@theapt.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20020325174011.A24006@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <20020325174011.A24006@grimoire.chen.org.nz> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <20020325174011.A24006@grimoire.chen.org.nz> Jonathan Chen writes: : On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:28:08PM -0800, Peter Hessler wrote: : > I am trying to update my 4.5-stable system, and I keep getting the : > error "make: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected" : : The error text you're getting shows that you aren't using the standard : make in /usr/bin. Looks like you're invoking GNU make instead - not a : good idea; it should have been installed as "gmake" and not "make". It might also be due to a corrupt make binary. The kernel thinks it is a shell script... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 21:58:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D74E37B405 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 794C57830D; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:28:08 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:28:08 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Jesse Geddis Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: attempted exploits Message-ID: <20020325162808.K24225@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Log output wrapped. On Sunday, 24 March 2002 at 21:52:40 -0800, Jesse Geddis wrote: > wow, this person is quite effective. they've been trying this since > this morning 4mins after i got my web server up. been doing it every > half hour for 7 hours lol. trying to execute arbitrary Windows code on > a FreeBSD server! > > [Sun Mar 24 20:41:55 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:05 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..À¯../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:10 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:29 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:11 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/root.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:12 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/MSADC/root.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:13 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:14 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:15 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:17 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/_vti_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:19 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/_mem_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:20 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does not exist: /archive/www/cia/msadc/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c/..Á../..Á../..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe Nimda. http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-26.html Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 21:58:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from exstaff9.city.unisa.edu.au (exstaff9.city.unisa.edu.au [130.220.84.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A9B37B419 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by exstaff9.city.unisa.edu.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:28:12 +1030 Message-ID: From: Jarrod Sayers To: "'sgeine@yahoo.com'" , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: RE: attempted exploits Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:28:05 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Welcome back Nimda! We have noticed a sharp rise in the number of = attacks starting over the weekend here. Jarrod Sayers=20 Information Technology Services Unit=20 University of South Australia, Magill Campus.=20 Phone: +61 8 8302 4809=20 http://people.unisa.edu.au/jarrod.sayers=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Geddis [mailto:sgeine@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, 25 March 2002 4:23 PM > To: FreeBSD-STABLE > Subject: attempted exploits >=20 >=20 > wow, this person is quite effective. they've been trying this since > this morning 4mins after i got my web server up. been doing it every > half hour for 7 hours lol. trying to execute arbitrary Windows code = on > a FreeBSD server! >=20 > [Sun Mar 24 20:41:55 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..=C1../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:05 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..=C0=AF../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:10 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..=C1../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:29 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:11 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/root.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:12 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/MSADC/root.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:13 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:14 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:15 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:17 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: > = /archive/www/cia/_vti_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > xe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:19 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: > = /archive/www/cia/_mem_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > xe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:20 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: > = /archive/www/cia/msadc/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c/..=C1../..=C1../..=C1../win= nt/s > ystem32 > /cmd.exe >=20 > Jesse Geddis >=20 >=20 >=20 > "My fellow Americans, I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia > forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." > --Ronald Reagan >=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 >=20 >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 22: 2: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 177CD37B405 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgeine (AUTH login) at adsl-63-198-133-39.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (HELO edinburgh) (sgeine@63.198.133.39) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2002 06:01:58 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Jesse Geddis" To: "Jarrod Sayers" , "FreeBSD-STABLE" Subject: RE: attempted exploits Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:01:58 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG rotflol, I called the guy who owned this box (hit their web server got their phone number phone menus etc) and it was hilarious. I told him either someone is at his office screwing around or his box has been compromised. I portscanned his box and noticed how wide open it was so this was the assumption I followed. on top of the fact that I am not on his broadcast domain so its not regular windows NETBIOS Spam. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jarrod Sayers Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:58 PM To: 'sgeine@yahoo.com'; FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: RE: attempted exploits Welcome back Nimda! We have noticed a sharp rise in the number of attacks starting over the weekend here. Jarrod Sayers Information Technology Services Unit University of South Australia, Magill Campus. Phone: +61 8 8302 4809 http://people.unisa.edu.au/jarrod.sayers > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Geddis [mailto:sgeine@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, 25 March 2002 4:23 PM > To: FreeBSD-STABLE > Subject: attempted exploits > > > wow, this person is quite effective. they've been trying this since > this morning 4mins after i got my web server up. been doing it every > half hour for 7 hours lol. trying to execute arbitrary Windows code on > a FreeBSD server! > > [Sun Mar 24 20:41:55 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:05 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..À¯../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:10 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:29 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:11 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/root.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:12 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/MSADC/root.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:13 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:14 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:15 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:17 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: > /archive/www/cia/_vti_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > xe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:19 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: > /archive/www/cia/_mem_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > xe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:20 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: > /archive/www/cia/msadc/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c/..Á../..Á../..Á../winnt/s > ystem32 > /cmd.exe > > Jesse Geddis > > > > "My fellow Americans, I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia > forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." > --Ronald Reagan > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 22: 5:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-203.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1098837B419 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from topperwein (topperwein [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2P65J378752 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 01:05:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 01:05:14 -0500 (EST) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory In-Reply-To: <20020324163351.A73171@greed.zenspider.com> Message-ID: <20020325010337.G78210-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Ryan Davis wrote: > [...snip...] > > I've seen weird cases lately where the solution to some poor fool's > port building problem is "Take '.' out of your path". That's just > NOT going to help us increase the usability of our favorite OS, is > it? Having "." in your PATH is a security risk. I don't have any problem making life difficult for people who have "." in their PATH. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 22:35:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.theapt.org (adsl-208-201-244-166.sonic.net [208.201.244.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A476737B417 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21414 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2002 06:35:19 -0000 Received: from adsl-208-201-244-160.sonic.net (HELO ?208.201.244.160?) (208.201.244.160) by 0 with SMTP; 25 Mar 2002 06:35:19 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: freebsd-misc@mail.theapt.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020324.225603.121860647.imp@village.org> References: <20020325174011.A24006@grimoire.chen.org.nz> <20020324.225603.121860647.imp@village.org> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:34:51 -0800 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Peter Hessler Subject: Re: make: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It looks like the make executable is bunk. I am using bsd make, not gmake. Now I need to generate make w/o make. (yay!) At 10:56 PM -0700 3/24/2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: >In message: <20020325174011.A24006@grimoire.chen.org.nz> > Jonathan Chen writes: >: On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:28:08PM -0800, Peter Hessler wrote: >: > I am trying to update my 4.5-stable system, and I keep getting the >: > error "make: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected" >: >: The error text you're getting shows that you aren't using the standard >: make in /usr/bin. Looks like you're invoking GNU make instead - not a >: good idea; it should have been installed as "gmake" and not "make". > >It might also be due to a corrupt make binary. The kernel thinks it >is a shell script... > >Warner > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 24 23:10:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7274237B416 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2P7Aai05825; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 00:10:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2P7AZf01447; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 00:10:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 00:09:27 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20020325.000927.33817222.imp@village.org> To: freebsd-misc@theapt.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <20020325174011.A24006@grimoire.chen.org.nz> <20020324.225603.121860647.imp@village.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: Peter Hessler writes: : It looks like the make executable is bunk. I am using bsd make, not : gmake. Now I need to generate make w/o make. (yay!) Been there, done that, hated it. Your best bet is to grab one off a cdrom or some other machine... And check other binaries to see if there were other oopses. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 0: 0: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skif.net (ns.skif.net [195.58.224.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E449637B416 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:59:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.58.224.122] (HELO dru.dn.ua) by skif.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 4046681 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:59:54 +0200 Received: (from admin@localhost) by dru.dn.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2O0Sum44392 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 02:28:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from admin) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 02:27:55 +0200 From: "Vladislav V. Zhuk" To: Willie Viljoen Subject: Re: Sound problems Message-ID: <20020324002755.GA42988@dru.dn.ua> References: <20020323185949.GA941@mars> <20020323210444.Y187-100000@phoenix.vh.laserfence.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20020323210444.Y187-100000@phoenix.vh.laserfence.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! sorry for my english :( I have problem with sound too. Short wav files played Á little rapidly and don't play last 2-3 seconds of file. Large files (for example 1 MB) playing normally. My box: IP-III 733, Soyo 6AB+100 (chipset Intel BX), RAM - 256M, Sound - Aureal Vortex II (Diamod Monster MX...., driver from ports/audio/aurealkmod), FreeBSD 4.5 Stable #8 What can I do to normally play short wav files??? PS: processor not overlocked. -- Vladislav V. Zhuk (06267)3-60-03 admin@dru.dn.ua 2:465/197@FidoNet.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 1:16:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c16703.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au (c16703.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [210.49.148.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF4337B41C for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 01:16:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tonym@localhost) by c16703.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2P9GUr15835 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:16:30 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from tonym) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:16:30 +1100 (EST) From: Tony Maher Message-Id: <200203250916.g2P9GUr15835@c16703.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: panic on resume (ata related?) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, cvsupped about 24 hours ago and made world. Suspended laptop (Dell Inspiron 3500) on leaving working and when I resumed at home got the following panic. Tried the suspend again, this time dropped into debugger but did not get a second core file due to lack of disk space. It also appeared to be ata related. -- tonym (kgdb) symbol-file kernel.debug Reading symbols from kernel.debug...done. (kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.1 (kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.1 IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x0049a000 initial pcb at physical address 0x003d13c0 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x70 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0192720 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc037c28c frame pointer = 0x10:0xc037c2b0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = net tty bio cam trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x30 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0281218 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc037c0b8 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc037c0c0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = net tty bio cam trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 8h14m27s dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 786560 dump ata0: resetting devices .. ata0-slave: ATA identify retries exceeded done 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 [CTRL-C to abort] 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 [CTRL-C to abort] 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 4 2 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 --- #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 487 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) where #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 #1 0xc018f6df in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316 #2 0xc018fb1d in panic (fmt=0xc037026c "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 #3 0xc0308c77 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc037c078, eva=48) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:966 #4 0xc0308925 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc037c078, usermode=0, eva=48) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:859 #5 0xc03084cb in trap (frame={tf_fs = 16, tf_es = -1070137328, tf_ds = -1072168944, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -1070088000, tf_isp = -1070088028, tf_ebx = -1069970756, tf_edx = 6865984, tf_ecx = -1055084531, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071115752, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66182, tf_esp = -1012848796, tf_ss = 0}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:458 #6 0xc0281218 in acquire_lock (lk=0xc0398abc) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:266 #7 0xc02868fc in softdep_count_dependencies (bp=0xc3a12764, wantcount=0) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:4792 #8 0xc0289ca0 in ffs_fsync (ap=0xc037c134) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:168 #9 0xc0288787 in ffs_sync (mp=0xc11cec00, waitfor=2, cred=0xc0b31900, p=0xc03ef8e0) at vnode_if.h:558 #10 0xc01bf1ef in sync (p=0xc03ef8e0, uap=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:569 #11 0xc018f47a in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:235 #12 0xc018fb1d in panic (fmt=0xc037026c "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 #13 0xc0308c77 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc037c24c, eva=112) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:966 #14 0xc0308925 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc037c24c, usermode=0, eva=112) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:859 #15 0xc03084cb in trap (frame={tf_fs = 16, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = -1055643136, tf_ebp = -1070087504, tf_isp = -1070087560, tf_ebx = 0, tf_edx = 503, tf_ecx = -1055626432, tf_eax = 4194304, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1072093408, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = 496, tf_ss = -1055643092}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:458 #16 0xc0192720 in tsleep (ident=0xc1142a00, priority=16, wmesg=0xc032f726 "atacmd", timo=1000) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c:436 #17 0xc014b8fc in ata_command (atadev=0xc1142a2c, command=236 'ì', lba=0, count=0, feature=0, flags=2) at /usr/src/sys/dev/ata/ata-all.c:1048 #18 0xc014a457 in ata_getparam (atadev=0xc1142a2c, command=236) at /usr/src/sys/dev/ata/ata-all.c:428 #19 0xc014b11e in ata_reinit (ch=0xc1142a00) at /usr/src/sys/dev/ata/ata-all.c:845 #20 0xc014a07d in ata_resume (dev=0xc1147480) at /usr/src/sys/dev/ata/ata-all.c:275 #21 0xc012afd2 in DEVICE_RESUME (dev=0xc1147480) at device_if.c:105 #22 0xc0198302 in bus_generic_resume (dev=0xc1147c80) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_bus.c:1936 #23 0xc012afd2 in DEVICE_RESUME (dev=0xc1147c80) at device_if.c:105 #24 0xc0198302 in bus_generic_resume (dev=0xc1144280) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_bus.c:1936 #25 0xc012afd2 in DEVICE_RESUME (dev=0xc1144280) at device_if.c:105 #26 0xc0198302 in bus_generic_resume (dev=0xc1144400) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_bus.c:1936 #27 0xc012afd2 in DEVICE_RESUME (dev=0xc1144400) at device_if.c:105 #28 0xc0198302 in bus_generic_resume (dev=0xc1144580) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_bus.c:1936 #29 0xc012afd2 in DEVICE_RESUME (dev=0xc1144580) at device_if.c:105 #30 0xc0198302 in bus_generic_resume (dev=0xc0b31880) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_bus.c:1936 #31 0xc012afd2 in DEVICE_RESUME (dev=0xc0b31880) at device_if.c:105 #32 0xc02f5af3 in apm_resume () at /usr/src/sys/i386/apm/apm.c:596 #33 0xc02f61ac in apm_processevent () at /usr/src/sys/i386/apm/apm.c:980 #34 0xc02f597e in apm_do_suspend () at /usr/src/sys/i386/apm/apm.c:481 #35 0xc02f5d35 in apm_timeout (dummy=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/apm/apm.c:738 #36 0xc019557d in softclock () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_timeout.c:131 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 2:17:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C077437B41A for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 02:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (relay2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3-2) with ESMTP id g2PAHVY20010; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:17:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (hyperion.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.33]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3/7) with ESMTP id g2PAHUv20005; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:17:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (margaux.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.72]) by hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02999; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:17:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from stolz@localhost) by margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1-gb-2) id LAA03598; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:17:25 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:17:25 +0100 From: Volker Stolz To: Wilko Bulte Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: umass/memory stick Message-ID: <20020325111725.C3576@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20020322210053.A2969@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> <20020322210947.A59695@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <20020322210947.A59695@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 09:09:47PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Am 22. Mar 2002 um 21:09 MET schrieb Wilko Bulte: > On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 09:00:53PM +0100, Volker Stolz wrote: > I think you need a quirk entry because this device does not support > 6 byte read commands. I think I finally understood what you meant with "quirk" (there's almost the same discussion on -hackers). Thanks! -- Wonderful \hbox (0.80312pt too nice) in paragraph at lines 16--18 Volker Stolz * stolz@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Please use PGP or S/MIME for correspondence! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 2:24:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.itxmarket.com (fw.itxmarket.com [213.11.40.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761D537B405 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 02:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mich.itxmarket.com (mich.itxmarket.com [192.168.2.27]) by mail2.itxmarket.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9024337C83 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:23:42 +0100 (CET) Received: by mich.itxmarket.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 72BF2139E2C; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:23:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:23:39 +0100 From: Michael Hostbaek To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: newsyslog.conf - sudden error Message-ID: <20020325102339.GC529@mich.itxmarket.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 X-PGP-Key: http://www.freebsdcluster.org/~mich/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, I have 3 FreeBSD boxes running ipfw at three different locations.. 2 of the boxes are 4.5-STABLE and the last is 4.4-STABLE. Last night, both the 4.5-STABLE boxes started to produce the following error.. Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:00:00 +0100 (CET) To: root X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: newsyslog: malformed at: /var/log/ipfw 600 10 * $W0D2 Z The 4.4-STABLE has the exact same configuration, however with no errors. The two other boxes have been running, for several months, without any problems, and no changes have been made recently. And as far as I can see, the syntax in /etc/newsyslog.conf seems allright to me. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated, thanks.. -- Best Regards, Michael Landin Hostbaek FreeBSDCluster.org - an International Community */ PGP-key available upon request /* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 6: 3:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5A837B41B for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 06:03:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id g2PE31c05802; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:03:01 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020313111626.59D1E3E3E@bazooka.trit.org> References: <200203121832.g2CIWUs25950@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020313111626.59D1E3E3E@bazooka.trit.org> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 20 From: Makoto Matsushita To: dima@trit.org Subject: Re: /usr/sbin/sysinstall for -stable (cvs commit: src/release/sy Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:02:57 +0900 Message-Id: <20020325230257I.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Trimmed down To:/Cc: list... dima> Per nyan's request, I'm going to hold off doing this until the problem dima> he reported is resolved. It looks like matusita will pick up the ball dima> on this one, so it shouldn't be long--hopefully. Thanks, guys! Maybe this ball was passed through to ru, then he made revised version of nyan's patch: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1843565+0+archive/2002/cvs-all/20020317.cvs-all But he said also: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1858867+0+archive/2002/cvs-all/20020317.cvs-all and that's why this patch is not yet committed. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 6:19:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB4237B404 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 06:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id g2PEJ7c07701; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:19:07 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Cc: dima@trit.org In-Reply-To: <20020325230257I.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> References: <200203121832.g2CIWUs25950@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020313111626.59D1E3E3E@bazooka.trit.org> <20020325230257I.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 6 From: Makoto Matsushita To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/sbin/sysinstall for -stable (cvs commit: src/release/sy Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:19:03 +0900 Message-Id: <20020325231903H.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ah... someone resend mails which was posted to stable@FreeBSD.org, I replied you remail of March/13/2002! Sorry for my confusion. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 7:50:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7067337B417 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:50:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP id GQF37091; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:50:11 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639625D06; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:50:10 -0800 (PST) To: Tony Maher Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic on resume (ata related?) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:16:30 +1100." <200203250916.g2P9GUr15835@c16703.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.8) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Mon_Mar_25_07:48:54_2002-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:50:10 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20020325155010.639625D06@ptavv.es.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Multipart_Mon_Mar_25_07:48:54_2002-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:16:30 +1100 (EST) > From: Tony Maher > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Hello, > > cvsupped about 24 hours ago and made world. Suspended laptop (Dell Inspiron > 3500) on leaving working and when I resumed at home got the following panic. > Tried the suspend again, this time dropped into debugger but did not get > a second core file due to lack of disk space. It also appeared to be > ata related. Yes, this seems to be a common problem with the new ata code Soren merged last week. I am seeing it on my ThinkPad, as well. There are a couple of reports that the patch Ian Dowse posted back on Friday will fix the problem. I have not yet tried it, but will soon. If you don't have the message any more, you can find it at: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Ian+Dowse+resume+group:mailing.freebsd.stable&hl=en&selm=a7gkv8% I will attach his patch. I had to strip off the HTML cruft from Google, but I think it's clean. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 --Multipart_Mon_Mar_25_07:48:54_2002-1 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; type=patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ata-resume-dowse.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: ata-all.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/iedowse/CVS/src/sys/dev/ata/ata-all.c,v retrieving revision 1.50.2.30 diff -u -r1.50.2.30 ata-all.c --- ata-all.c 18 Mar 2002 08:37:33 -0000 1.50.2.30 +++ ata-all.c 23 Mar 2002 00:53:32 -0000 @@ -162,7 +162,7 @@ ata_attach(device_t dev) { struct ata_channel *ch; - int error, rid; + int error, rid, s; if (!dev || !(ch = device_get_softc(dev))) return ENXIO; @@ -186,6 +186,7 @@ * otherwise attach what the probe has found in ch->devices. */ if (!ata_delayed_attach) { + s = splbio(); if (ch->devices & ATA_ATA_SLAVE) if (ata_getparam(&ch->device[SLAVE], ATA_C_ATA_IDENTIFY)) ch->devices &= ~ATA_ATA_SLAVE; @@ -210,6 +211,7 @@ if (ch->devices & ATA_ATAPI_SLAVE) atapi_attach(&ch->device[SLAVE]); #endif + splx(s); } return 0; } @@ -425,7 +427,7 @@ /* apparently some devices needs this repeated */ do { - if (ata_command(atadev, command, 0, 0, 0, ATA_WAIT_INTR)) { + if (ata_command(atadev, command, 0, 0, 0, ATA_IMMEDIATE)) { ata_prtdev(atadev, "%s identify failed\n", command == ATA_C_ATAPI_IDENTIFY ? "ATAPI" : "ATA"); return -1; @@ -469,13 +471,14 @@ ata_boot_attach(void) { struct ata_channel *ch; - int ctlr; + int ctlr, s; if (ata_delayed_attach) { config_intrhook_disestablish(ata_delayed_attach); free(ata_delayed_attach, M_TEMP); ata_delayed_attach = NULL; } + s = splbio(); /* * run through all ata devices and look for real ATA & ATAPI devices @@ -522,6 +525,7 @@ atapi_attach(&ch->device[SLAVE]); } #endif + splx(s); } static void --Multipart_Mon_Mar_25_07:48:54_2002-1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:18: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E3237B405 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 4.00) id 16pZ2i-0001wx-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:18:04 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: nattting netbios Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:18:04 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 4.5-stable host running win98se client under vmware if i have the vanilla ipfw flush add divert natd all from any to any via wi0 add pass all from any to any natd dynamic yes unregistered_only yes interface wi0 setup, can i tell netd to specifically redirect all netbios and other windoze stuff to the natted private address port? randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:20: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5956737B405 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5573 invoked by uid 100); 25 Mar 2002 18:20:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15519.27219.356805.929565@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:20:03 -0600 To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: mergemaster mtree:No such file or directory In-Reply-To: <20020325010337.G78210-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> References: <20020324163351.A73171@greed.zenspider.com> <20020325010337.G78210-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.49 (Python 2.2 on freebsd4) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <20020325010337.G78210-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org>, Chris BeHanna typed: > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Ryan Davis wrote: > > I've seen weird cases lately where the solution to some poor fool's > > port building problem is "Take '.' out of your path". That's just > > NOT going to help us increase the usability of our favorite OS, is > > it? > Having "." in your PATH is a security risk. I don't have any > problem making life difficult for people who have "." in their PATH. Running anything listening to a TCP socket is also a security risk. Do you not have any problems making life difficult for people who run, say sshd? Putting "." last in your PATH narrows the security risk to your common typos. Running on a machine on which the only legit users all have root - a common situation for a workstation or a non-shell server - means that if the risk is exploitable, you've already been cracked. I'd say that running sshd is at least as dangerous as having "." last in your PATH on such a machine. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:24:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0DF237B405 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgeine (AUTH login) at adsl-63-198-133-39.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (HELO edinburgh) (sgeine@63.198.133.39) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2002 18:24:08 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Jesse Geddis" To: "Jarrod Sayers" , "FreeBSD-STABLE" Subject: RE: attempted exploits Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:24:08 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG wow, this is nuts. getting it from 5 hosts on the same B now lol. seems to propagate quite well. I read through the CERT advisory. seems like a well written worm with many points of access. certainly fills my log files. I feel sorry for all the NT users who have to deal with MS timetable for patches lol -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jarrod Sayers Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:58 PM To: 'sgeine@yahoo.com'; FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: RE: attempted exploits Welcome back Nimda! We have noticed a sharp rise in the number of attacks starting over the weekend here. Jarrod Sayers Information Technology Services Unit University of South Australia, Magill Campus. Phone: +61 8 8302 4809 http://people.unisa.edu.au/jarrod.sayers > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Geddis [mailto:sgeine@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, 25 March 2002 4:23 PM > To: FreeBSD-STABLE > Subject: attempted exploits > > > wow, this person is quite effective. they've been trying this since > this morning 4mins after i got my web server up. been doing it every > half hour for 7 hours lol. trying to execute arbitrary Windows code on > a FreeBSD server! > > [Sun Mar 24 20:41:55 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:05 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..À¯../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:10 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:29 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:11 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/root.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:12 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/MSADC/root.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:13 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:14 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:15 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:17 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: > /archive/www/cia/_vti_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > xe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:19 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: > /archive/www/cia/_mem_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > xe > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:20 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > not exist: > /archive/www/cia/msadc/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c/..Á../..Á../..Á../winnt/s > ystem32 > /cmd.exe > > Jesse Geddis > > > > "My fellow Americans, I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia > forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." > --Ronald Reagan > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:26:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6988837B41F for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2PIPlY70283; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:25:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:25:47 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jesse Geddis Cc: Jarrod Sayers , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: attempted exploits Message-ID: <20020325192547.A70216@freebie.xs4all.nl> Reply-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sgeine@yahoo.com on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 10:24:08AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 10:24:08AM -0800, Jesse Geddis wrote: What in heavens name does this have to do with FreeBSD -stable????? Followups to -chat (or /dev/null) Wilko > wow, this is nuts. getting it from 5 hosts on the same B now lol. > seems to propagate quite well. I read through the CERT advisory. seems > like a well written worm with many points of access. certainly fills > my log files. I feel sorry for all the NT users who have to deal with > MS timetable for patches lol > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jarrod Sayers > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:58 PM > To: 'sgeine@yahoo.com'; FreeBSD-STABLE > Subject: RE: attempted exploits > > > Welcome back Nimda! We have noticed a sharp rise in the number of > attacks > starting over the weekend here. > > Jarrod Sayers > Information Technology Services Unit > University of South Australia, Magill Campus. > Phone: +61 8 8302 4809 > http://people.unisa.edu.au/jarrod.sayers > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jesse Geddis [mailto:sgeine@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Monday, 25 March 2002 4:23 PM > > To: FreeBSD-STABLE > > Subject: attempted exploits > > > > > > wow, this person is quite effective. they've been trying this since > > this morning 4mins after i got my web server up. been doing it every > > half hour for 7 hours lol. trying to execute arbitrary Windows code > on > > a FreeBSD server! > > > > [Sun Mar 24 20:41:55 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:05 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..À¯../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:10 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:29 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:11 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/root.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:12 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/MSADC/root.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:13 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:14 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:15 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:17 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: > > > /archive/www/cia/_vti_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > > xe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:19 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: > > > /archive/www/cia/_mem_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > > xe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:20 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: > > > /archive/www/cia/msadc/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c/..Á../..Á../..Á../winnt/s > > ystem32 > > /cmd.exe > > > > Jesse Geddis > > > > > > > > "My fellow Americans, I've signed legislation that will outlaw > Russia > > forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." > > --Ronald Reagan > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:28:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.edu [141.165.1.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910C337B404 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2PIS4at037592; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:28:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (gsi22419@localhost) by gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) with SMTP id g2PIS3xs037552; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:28:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:28:00 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Christopher Dodson To: Jesse Geddis Cc: Jarrod Sayers , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: RE: attempted exploits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you look at the majority of the recent problems with worms all but the latest had patches available for 6 months or more prior to major outbreaks. Don't let the facts get in the way of your opinions... -- scott On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Jesse Geddis wrote: > wow, this is nuts. getting it from 5 hosts on the same B now lol. > seems to propagate quite well. I read through the CERT advisory. seems > like a well written worm with many points of access. certainly fills > my log files. I feel sorry for all the NT users who have to deal with > MS timetable for patches lol >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jarrod Sayers > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:58 PM > To: 'sgeine@yahoo.com'; FreeBSD-STABLE > Subject: RE: attempted exploits >=20 >=20 > Welcome back Nimda! We have noticed a sharp rise in the number of > attacks > starting over the weekend here. >=20 > Jarrod Sayers > Information Technology Services Unit > University of South Australia, Magill Campus. > Phone: +61 8 8302 4809 > http://people.unisa.edu.au/jarrod.sayers >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jesse Geddis [mailto:sgeine@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Monday, 25 March 2002 4:23 PM > > To: FreeBSD-STABLE > > Subject: attempted exploits > > > > > > wow, this person is quite effective. they've been trying this since > > this morning 4mins after i got my web server up. been doing it every > > half hour for 7 hours lol. trying to execute arbitrary Windows code > on > > a FreeBSD server! > > > > [Sun Mar 24 20:41:55 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..=C1../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:05 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..=C0=AF../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:10 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..=C1../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:29 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:11 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/root.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:12 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/MSADC/root.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:13 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:14 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:15 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:17 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: > > > /archive/www/cia/_vti_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > > xe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:19 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: > > > /archive/www/cia/_mem_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > > xe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:20 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: > > > /archive/www/cia/msadc/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c/..=C1../..=C1../..=C1../winn= t/s > > ystem32 > > /cmd.exe > > > > Jesse Geddis > > > > > > > > "My fellow Americans, I've signed legislation that will outlaw > Russia > > forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." > > --Ronald Reagan > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:28:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977C237B405 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2PIS6O09912; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:28:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020325132039.0240a4b0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:22:22 -0500 To: sgeine@yahoo.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: RE: attempted exploits In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There are / were patches to NIMDA/Code Red etc for some time *before* the=20 first appearance of the worm... ---Mike At 10:24 AM 3/25/02 -0800, Jesse Geddis wrote: >my log files. I feel sorry for all the NT users who have to deal with >MS timetable for patches lol > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jarrod Sayers >Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:58 PM >To: 'sgeine@yahoo.com'; FreeBSD-STABLE >Subject: RE: attempted exploits > > >Welcome back Nimda! We have noticed a sharp rise in the number of >attacks >starting over the weekend here. > >Jarrod Sayers >Information Technology Services Unit >University of South Australia, Magill Campus. >Phone: +61 8 8302 4809 >http://people.unisa.edu.au/jarrod.sayers > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jesse Geddis [mailto:sgeine@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Monday, 25 March 2002 4:23 PM > > To: FreeBSD-STABLE > > Subject: attempted exploits > > > > > > wow, this person is quite effective. they've been trying this since > > this morning 4mins after i got my web server up. been doing it every > > half hour for 7 hours lol. trying to execute arbitrary Windows code >on > > a FreeBSD server! > > > > [Sun Mar 24 20:41:55 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..=C1../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:05 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..=C0=AF../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:10 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..=C1../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:29 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:11 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/root.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:12 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/MSADC/root.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:13 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:14 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:15 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:17 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: > > >/archive/www/cia/_vti_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > > xe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:19 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: > > >/archive/www/cia/_mem_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > > xe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:20 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: > > >/archive/www/cia/msadc/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c/..=C1../..=C1../..=C1../winnt/= s > > ystem32 > > /cmd.exe > > > > Jesse Geddis > > > > > > > > "My fellow Americans, I've signed legislation that will outlaw >Russia > > forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." > > --Ronald Reagan > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:29: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB99F37B422; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2PIQqB70307; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:26:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:26:52 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Josef Karthauser Cc: "M. Warner Losh" , reichert@numachi.com, gnb@itga.com.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@FreeBSD.ORG, paul@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just got 2 different 4.5 disks...... Message-ID: <20020325192652.B70216@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200203040030.LAA00492@lightning.itga.com.au> <20020303211832.I153@numachi.com> <20020303.193532.34108893.imp@village.org> <20020304023815.GA49516@genius.tao.org.uk> <20020304103844.D630@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020304100250.GC62808@genius.tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020304100250.GC62808@genius.tao.org.uk>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 10:02:50AM +0000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 10:02:50AM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 10:38:44AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 02:38:15AM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 07:35:32PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > > a while. Then Wind River announced they were exiting the business and > > > > laid off a bunch of people (but not all of the FreeBSD staff). Daemon > > > > news took up the slack and offered the cds. Wind River then actually > > > > sold the business back to the folks that did Walnut Creek CDROM and > > > > are now doing freebsd mall. The results are that there are two people > > > > doing FreeBSD CDROMs. > > > > > > Three if you count FreeBSD Services Ltd as well. They do a cd image > > > on the back of their DVD set. > > > > Speaking of which: there was a promise of free subscriptions for > > developers for these DVDs. Sofar utter silence. > > > > Anybody know whats up? > > As far as I know it's happening. Brian, Paul? It happened. Yesterday. ;-) -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:30:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B45CD37B42B for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgeine (AUTH login) at adsl-63-198-133-39.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (HELO edinburgh) (sgeine@63.198.133.39) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2002 18:29:12 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Jesse Geddis" To: Cc: "Jarrod Sayers" , "FreeBSD-STABLE" Subject: RE: attempted exploits Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:29:12 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020325192547.A70216@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG /sigh heaven forbid something light hearted slips through. I didn't mean to upset the MAIL LIST POLICE, wilko lol. seems sometimes some forget what /dev/null is for and instead of putting what they don't want to see there they instead go out of their way with this sort of thing. I hope you find other things to do with your time my friend =) -----Original Message----- From: Wilko Bulte [mailto:wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:26 AM To: Jesse Geddis Cc: Jarrod Sayers; FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: attempted exploits On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 10:24:08AM -0800, Jesse Geddis wrote: What in heavens name does this have to do with FreeBSD -stable????? Followups to -chat (or /dev/null) Wilko > wow, this is nuts. getting it from 5 hosts on the same B now lol. > seems to propagate quite well. I read through the CERT advisory. seems > like a well written worm with many points of access. certainly fills > my log files. I feel sorry for all the NT users who have to deal with > MS timetable for patches lol > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jarrod Sayers > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:58 PM > To: 'sgeine@yahoo.com'; FreeBSD-STABLE > Subject: RE: attempted exploits > > > Welcome back Nimda! We have noticed a sharp rise in the number of > attacks > starting over the weekend here. > > Jarrod Sayers > Information Technology Services Unit > University of South Australia, Magill Campus. > Phone: +61 8 8302 4809 > http://people.unisa.edu.au/jarrod.sayers > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jesse Geddis [mailto:sgeine@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Monday, 25 March 2002 4:23 PM > > To: FreeBSD-STABLE > > Subject: attempted exploits > > > > > > wow, this person is quite effective. they've been trying this since > > this morning 4mins after i got my web server up. been doing it every > > half hour for 7 hours lol. trying to execute arbitrary Windows code > on > > a FreeBSD server! > > > > [Sun Mar 24 20:41:55 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:05 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..À¯../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:10 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 20:42:29 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:11 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/root.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:12 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/MSADC/root.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:13 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:14 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:15 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: /archive/www/cia/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:17 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: > > > /archive/www/cia/_vti_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > > xe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:19 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: > > > /archive/www/cia/_mem_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.e > > xe > > [Sun Mar 24 21:13:20 2002] [error] [client 63.198.148.139] File does > > not exist: > > > /archive/www/cia/msadc/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c/..Á../..Á../..Á../winnt/s > > ystem32 > > /cmd.exe > > > > Jesse Geddis > > > > > > > > "My fellow Americans, I've signed legislation that will outlaw > Russia > > forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." > > --Ronald Reagan > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:32:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0645A37B41F for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:32:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sgeine (AUTH login) at adsl-63-198-133-39.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (HELO edinburgh) (sgeine@63.198.133.39) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2002 18:32:06 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Jesse Geddis" To: "Wilko Bulte" , "Josef Karthauser" Cc: "M. Warner Losh" , , , , , Subject: RE: Just got 2 different 4.5 disks...... Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:32:06 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020325192652.B70216@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What in heavens name does this have to do with FreeBSD -stable????? Followups to -chat (or /dev/null) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Wilko Bulte Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:27 AM To: Josef Karthauser Cc: M. Warner Losh; reichert@numachi.com; gnb@itga.com.au; stable@FreeBSD.ORG; brian@FreeBSD.ORG; paul@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Just got 2 different 4.5 disks...... On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 10:02:50AM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 10:38:44AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 02:38:15AM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 07:35:32PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > > a while. Then Wind River announced they were exiting the business and > > > > laid off a bunch of people (but not all of the FreeBSD staff). Daemon > > > > news took up the slack and offered the cds. Wind River then actually > > > > sold the business back to the folks that did Walnut Creek CDROM and > > > > are now doing freebsd mall. The results are that there are two people > > > > doing FreeBSD CDROMs. > > > > > > Three if you count FreeBSD Services Ltd as well. They do a cd image > > > on the back of their DVD set. > > > > Speaking of which: there was a promise of free subscriptions for > > developers for these DVDs. Sofar utter silence. > > > > Anybody know whats up? > > As far as I know it's happening. Brian, Paul? It happened. Yesterday. ;-) -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:34:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5644237B417; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:33:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2PIXgK70443; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:33:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:33:42 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jesse Geddis Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Jarrod Sayers , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: attempted exploits Message-ID: <20020325193342.E70216@freebie.xs4all.nl> Reply-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020325192547.A70216@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sgeine@yahoo.com on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 10:29:12AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 10:29:12AM -0800, Jesse Geddis wrote: > /sigh heaven forbid something light hearted slips through. I didn't > mean to upset the MAIL LIST POLICE, wilko lol. seems sometimes some > forget what /dev/null is for and instead of putting what they don't > want to see there they instead go out of their way with this sort of > thing. I hope you find other things to do with your time my friend =) If you care to find out what I'm doing in the project you will find out that I have indeed better things to do. -- | / o / /_ _ |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:36: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (pi.yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B7637B41A for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g2PIZu709067; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:35:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:35:56 -0500 From: Bob K To: Randy Bush Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: nattting netbios Message-ID: <20020325133556.O1331@yip.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from randy@psg.com on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 10:18:04AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 10:18:04AM -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > 4.5-stable host running win98se client under vmware > > if i have the vanilla ipfw > > flush > add divert natd all from any to any via wi0 > add pass all from any to any > > natd > > dynamic yes > unregistered_only yes > interface wi0 > > setup, can i tell netd to specifically redirect all netbios and other > windoze stuff to the natted private address port? In your natd config file, put something like this: redirect_port tcp nat.te.d.ip:137-139 137-139 redirect_port udp nat.te.d.ip:137-139 137-139 -- Bob | It's pretty good, if you don't think about it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:42:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from a.smtp-out.sonic.net (a.smtp-out.sonic.net [208.201.224.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3306237B405 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28236 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2002 18:41:34 -0000 Received: from buzz.sonic.net (208.201.224.78) by a.smtp-out.sonic.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2002 18:41:34 -0000 Received: from sonic.net (newbolt [208.201.242.18]) by buzz.sonic.net (8.11.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id g2PIfYa18548 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:41:34 -0800 Received: from newbolt.sonic.net (IDENT:darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sonic.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2PIfYAa023638 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:41:34 -0800 Received: (from darrylo@localhost) by newbolt.sonic.net (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g2PIfXpF023637 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:41:33 -0800 Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by turbo.sonic.net (8.11.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id g2PIeoJ20851 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:40:50 -0800 X-envelope-info: Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E57AD65 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:40:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B2DA52 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:40:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id KAA20774 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:40:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203251840.KAA20774@mina.soco.agilent.com> Subject: Foo To: darrylo@sonic.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:40:49 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, usb-bsd@yahoogroups.com Subject: How to get USB hard disks working on FreeBSD-stable FYI, Here's a draft document that describes how to get USB hard disks working under FreeBSD-STABLE. It assumes basic sysadmin skills, as well as basic C programming proficiency. Note that this document is only needed until FreeBSD-STABLE gets fixed, and no longer needs the DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE hackery (for USB devices). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. =============================================================================== USB Hard Disks and FreeBSD-STABLE Version 0.5, Mon Mar 25, 2002 (C) Copyright 2002, by Darryl Okahata (darrylo@sonic.net) IMPORTANT: THIS DOCUMENTATION IS PROVIDED BY DARRYL OKAHATA "AS IS" AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL DARRYL OKAHATA BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS DOCUMENTATION, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. ***** Summary: This article describes my experiences on getting an USB hard disk working with FreeBSD-STABLE. Anyone also wanting to do this should have some minimal C programming experience, as some simple modifications to the kernel source code will probably be needed. ***** Introduction: For transporting files between home and work, I was looking for a portable hard disk solution -- one supported by both FreeBSD and Windows. I could have used a laptop, but a laptop tends to be big and bulky, and I wanted something smaller. Tape drives tend to be slow and have limited capacity, and I was apprehensive about the reliability of proprietary drive solutions like Iomega's Jaz drive and Castlewood System's Orb. I ended up getting an USB 2.0 hard disk enclosure for 2.5" drives. Why USB? Well, I considered IEEE 1394 drives, but there seems to be possible royalty issues with IEEE 1394 and open-source operating systems (i.e., it's unclear if it's possible to have a no-cost/free driver). Also, USB 1.1 ports are pretty ubiquitous; I wouldn't have to buy any adapter cards. Yes, USB 1.1 is slow, but it's not that slow, and, hopefully, FreeBSD will someday get USB 2.0 support. By getting an USB 2.0 hard disk enclosure, I can use it with USB 1.1 ports today (although a bit slowly), and I can hopefully continue to use it when FreeBSD gets USB 2.0 support. Also, by getting a standard 2.5" enclosure, I can use 2.5" (laptop) drives, which tend to be more rugged than 3.5" drives (and, possibly, more rugged than the proprietary drives, too). The price isn't bad, either; for around US$200, I can put together a 20GB USB 2.0 hard disk (~US$70 for the enclosure, ~$100-$110 for a 20GB drive, plus tax and shipping). It could be even much less, if I recycled an old, unused 2.5" laptop drive. ***** The Hardware: The most important piece of the puzzle is getting a good USB hard disk enclosure. Some older enclosures did not meet the USB mass storage specifications exactly, and required special drivers to be installed. Newer enclosures have better USB interface hardware, and often do not need any special drivers. Windows ME, 2000, and XP (but not 98SE and earlier) should have the standard USB mass storage drivers built into them, and do not need any special drivers to be installed. My idea was that, if the hardware was standard enough to not need any special Windows drivers, then the hardware "should" also work with FreeBSD. Fortunately, the hardware I bought did eventually work with FreeBSD, although I had to apply some kernel fixes. Unfortunately, for those of you who would also like to do what I did, I have no idea who makes the USB 2.0 enclosure; while the packaging box is of decent quality, with color pictures and printing, it does not list any manufacturer's name. I assume that this is some generic brand made in either Taiwan or China. The main labeling is ``Portable 2.5" HDD Enclosure'', and "ME-910 Series", and the particular model I have is, "ME-910U2", for "IDE to USB 2.0". The same manufacturer also apparently makes a model "ME-910U" (for "IDE to USB 1.1"), and a model "ME-910F" (for "IDE to IEEE 1394"). The second most important piece of hardware is a functional USB port. Fortunately, you probably already have one built into your PC's motherboard. Unfortunately, you may have buggy USB ports; I've heard that some older VIA-chipset-based motherboards have buggy USB ports. If you have one of these, you may be out-of-luck. You also need one supported by FreeBSD, although most are, if not all. ***** Getting It All Working: * First, decide if you're going to dedicate the entire USB disk to FreeBSD, or if you're going to use/share it with Windows. You've got three choices: 1. Use the entire disk for FreeBSD. Even though you're going to use the entire disk for FreeBSD, you should use Windows 2000/ME/XP to format the disk and put a small Windows volume on the disk; this will be used later as a test to see if you need to apply some kernel tweaks. If you don't have access to a Windows system, don't worry; you can just assume that you need to apply the tweaks. 2. Use the entire disk for Windows. If so, use Windows to format the disk, and let it use up all the disk space. If you're using WinNT or above, you'll probably want to format the disk as FAT32, as NTFS is not well supported by FreeBSD. 3. Partition the disk into two parts: one for FreeBSD, and one for Windows. If so, use Windows to format the disk (just like the previous step), but do not allocate the entire disk to Windows. Again, if you're using WinNT or above, you'll want to format the drive as FAT32 and not NTFS. * Disconnect the USB disk from your system, if it's currently connected. You want to leave the disk disconnected for now. * Next, you need to get and boot a recent version of FreeBSD-STABLE. If you don't know how, follow the directions in the handbook to do so. You also need to make sure that you have the kernel sources, as you'll probably have to edit the kernel sources and rebuild it. It has to be a recent FreeBSD-STABLE. Unfortunately, FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE will probably not work. I was using FreeBSD-STABLE as of mid-February 2002 (released after 4.5-RELEASE), and the USB drivers in that version would not work; I would get errors like: umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT However, after noticing that a number of USB-related changes have been made, I upgraded to FreeBSD-STABLE (March 19, 2002 as of ~3AM PST, CVS tag: RELENG_4). After a bit of tweaking, I was eventually able to get the USB disk working. * Configure the kernel for USB devices. If you're using the standard, GENERIC, kernel, this has already been done for you, and you can skip this step. However, note that, in subsequent steps, you will still have to edit the kernel sources, rebuild the kernel, and reboot. At this point, we're only interested in getting enough functionality working to query the USB bus and USB hard disk, in order to get the necessary information that we'll later use to edit to the kernel sources. [ Note: the following is for people who have customized their kernels, and are not using the standard, GENERIC, kernel. It's assumed that they know how to configure and build a kernel. ] If you're using a nonstandard kernel, you need to have built a kernel with the following devices: # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) You also need to add the basic PCI-USB driver, depending on the hardware that you have; also add one of the following: device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface It's generally easiest to just add both, though. You need additional USB device drivers, although these can be either built into the kernel, or loaded as kernel modules: device usb # USB Bus (required) device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da * Enable the USB daemon (the next time you reboot) by adding the following line to /etc/rc.conf: usbd_enable="YES" * Reboot FreeBSD to make sure that USB support is enabled. If you're using the standard GENERIC kernel, you can skip this step. * Connect the USB disk to your system. In the syslog (and, usually, the console), messages similar to the following will appear, but they'll be somewhat different: umass0: DMI USB 2.0 Storage Adaptor, rev 2.00/10.07, addr 3 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 650KB/s transfers da0: 19077MB (39070080 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 19077C) Note the disk drive identification; in the above, it's: TOSHIBA MK2016GAP U0.3 Yours will probably be different. Make a note of the EXACT string. If you don't see messages like the above when you connect the disk, you're probably using a buggy version of FreeBSD. You probably need to upgrade. This is especially true if you see errors like: umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT * Hopefully, you have a windows partition on the disk (if you don't, assume that you need to apply the kernel tweaks, and skip to the next step). As a test (which will probably fail), try mounting it: mount_msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt You may have to edit the above command before running it: + If you only added one Windows volume to the disk, the device name will be /dev/da0s1. If you have more than one Windows volume, the device name will be different, and you'll have to replace "/dev/da0s1" with the correct name. + You can use "/mnt" only if there isn't already something mounted there. If there is, use something else. Chances are, the above command will fail (assuming that you used the correct parameters), with messages like the following appearing in the syslog/console: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(06). CDB: 8 0 0 0 4 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:21,0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Logical block address out of range If you see this, don't worry; it just means that you have to tweak the kernel sources. In the above, note that the failing command is, "READ(06)"; if you see anything else, stop now, as something else is going wrong, and the rest of these instructions will probably not help you. If, by some miracle, the above command actually succeeds, rejoice. It means that you do not have to tweak the kernel sources, and that the USB disk should already be fully functional under FreeBSD. You can skip the rest of these steps, and start using the disk normally (but see the cautions below on disconnecting the disk from the USB bus!). * If the above mount failed, it means that you probably need to apply some kernel tweaks. What's happening is that FreeBSD treats an IDE USB disk as a SCSI disk, and tries to send it 6-byte SCSI commands, but the USB disk probably understands only 10-byte SCSI commands, and gives errors when 6-byte commands are used. [ Yes, it may seem strange, treating an IDE USB disk as a SCSI one, but it's actually a pretty good idea. This simplifies driver writing, because the USB driver only has to worry about low-level details, and the higher-level SCSI driver can handle a lot of the upper-level details. ] Fortunately, FreeBSD allows you to mark certain SCSI devices as being incapable of understanding 6-byte SCSI commands, which is a passable workaround for this problem. Ideally, the driver should fall back to using 10-byte commands if 6-byte one fails, but this does not (yet?) exist in FreeBSD-STABLE (I believe it does exist in FreeBSD-CURRENT, though). This is where the drive identification string comes in (you did make a note of it, above, right?). Here's a tricky part: you have to break up this drive identification string into a manufacturer name, a model name, and a revision. Hopefully, you're familiar with disk drive manufacturers; if you're not, ask around. In the above example, the drive identification string is (and this will almost certainly be different for you): TOSHIBA MK2016GAP U0.3 Here, the manufacturer name is "TOSHIBA", and the model name is "MK2016GAP", and the revision is "U0.3". Note that this one's easy; other drive identification strings may have additional spaces. The two key parts you'll need are the manufacturer and model names. Make a note of them. * As root, go to /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi, and edit the file, "scsi_da.c". Search for the variable, "da_quirk_table"; you want to locate where it is defined. The variable, "da_quirk_table", contains a list of all SCSI devices that need to be specially handled, and it is here where we need to add an entry for our USB disk. Basically, to this variable, you want to add an entry like: { {T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_FIXED, "TOSHIBA", "MK2016GAP", "*"}, /*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE }, Replace "TOSHIBA" with the manufacturer name of your disk, and replace "MK2016GAP" with the model name. This will tell FreeBSD to specially handle your USB disk -- to not use 6-byte SCSI commands. Rebuild your kernel (don't forget to do a "make depend"), and reboot. The USB disk should be functional. >From here, you should be able to use the disk normally. However, before physically disconnecting the USB disk from the USB bus, do not forget to unmount any mounted filesystems that come off the USB disk. Bad Things Will Happen if you disconnect the disk before unmounting any such filesystems (you may lose data, or FreeBSD might crash). If part or all of the disk is going to be used for FreeBSD, just follow the instructions in the handbook. ***** Notes: * When using an USB disk, do not forget to unmount any filesystems that come off the USB disk. Bad Things Will Happen if you disconnect the disk before unmounting any such filesystems. You may lose data, or FreeBSD might crash. * For instructions on adding a disk to FreeBSD, see the chapter called, "Storage". --}-<> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 10:45:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from a.smtp-out.sonic.net (a.smtp-out.sonic.net [208.201.224.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCE5137B41B for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29070 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2002 18:45:25 -0000 Received: from buzz.sonic.net (208.201.224.78) by a.smtp-out.sonic.net with SMTP; 25 Mar 2002 18:45:25 -0000 Received: from sonic.net (newbolt [208.201.242.18]) by buzz.sonic.net (8.11.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id g2PIjPa20870 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:45:25 -0800 X-envelope-info: Received: from newbolt.sonic.net (IDENT:darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sonic.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2PIjPAa023859 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:45:25 -0800 Received: (from darrylo@localhost) by newbolt.sonic.net (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g2PIjPDM023858 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:45:25 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:45:25 -0800 From: darrylo To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: How to get USB hard disks working on FreeBSD-stable Message-ID: <20020325104525.A23412@sonic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ I'm really, REALLY sorry about the last post. I'm having to send this via an alternate account, because the freebsd.org mail server appears to be rejecting messages from agilent.com, and I wasn't familiar with the particular mail client that I'm using on the alternate account. ] FYI, Here's a draft document that describes how to get USB hard disks working under FreeBSD-STABLE. It assumes basic sysadmin skills, as well as basic C programming proficiency. Note that this document is only needed until FreeBSD-STABLE gets fixed, and no longer needs the DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE hackery (for USB devices). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. =============================================================================== USB Hard Disks and FreeBSD-STABLE Version 0.5, Mon Mar 25, 2002 (C) Copyright 2002, by Darryl Okahata (darrylo@sonic.net) IMPORTANT: THIS DOCUMENTATION IS PROVIDED BY DARRYL OKAHATA "AS IS" AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL DARRYL OKAHATA BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS DOCUMENTATION, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. ***** Summary: This article describes my experiences on getting an USB hard disk working with FreeBSD-STABLE. Anyone also wanting to do this should have some minimal C programming experience, as some simple modifications to the kernel source code will probably be needed. ***** Introduction: For transporting files between home and work, I was looking for a portable hard disk solution -- one supported by both FreeBSD and Windows. I could have used a laptop, but a laptop tends to be big and bulky, and I wanted something smaller. Tape drives tend to be slow and have limited capacity, and I was apprehensive about the reliability of proprietary drive solutions like Iomega's Jaz drive and Castlewood System's Orb. I ended up getting an USB 2.0 hard disk enclosure for 2.5" drives. Why USB? Well, I considered IEEE 1394 drives, but there seems to be possible royalty issues with IEEE 1394 and open-source operating systems (i.e., it's unclear if it's possible to have a no-cost/free driver). Also, USB 1.1 ports are pretty ubiquitous; I wouldn't have to buy any adapter cards. Yes, USB 1.1 is slow, but it's not that slow, and, hopefully, FreeBSD will someday get USB 2.0 support. By getting an USB 2.0 hard disk enclosure, I can use it with USB 1.1 ports today (although a bit slowly), and I can hopefully continue to use it when FreeBSD gets USB 2.0 support. Also, by getting a standard 2.5" enclosure, I can use 2.5" (laptop) drives, which tend to be more rugged than 3.5" drives (and, possibly, more rugged than the proprietary drives, too). The price isn't bad, either; for around US$200, I can put together a 20GB USB 2.0 hard disk (~US$70 for the enclosure, ~$100-$110 for a 20GB drive, plus tax and shipping). It could be even much less, if I recycled an old, unused 2.5" laptop drive. ***** The Hardware: The most important piece of the puzzle is getting a good USB hard disk enclosure. Some older enclosures did not meet the USB mass storage specifications exactly, and required special drivers to be installed. Newer enclosures have better USB interface hardware, and often do not need any special drivers. Windows ME, 2000, and XP (but not 98SE and earlier) should have the standard USB mass storage drivers built into them, and do not need any special drivers to be installed. My idea was that, if the hardware was standard enough to not need any special Windows drivers, then the hardware "should" also work with FreeBSD. Fortunately, the hardware I bought did eventually work with FreeBSD, although I had to apply some kernel fixes. Unfortunately, for those of you who would also like to do what I did, I have no idea who makes the USB 2.0 enclosure; while the packaging box is of decent quality, with color pictures and printing, it does not list any manufacturer's name. I assume that this is some generic brand made in either Taiwan or China. The main labeling is ``Portable 2.5" HDD Enclosure'', and "ME-910 Series", and the particular model I have is, "ME-910U2", for "IDE to USB 2.0". The same manufacturer also apparently makes a model "ME-910U" (for "IDE to USB 1.1"), and a model "ME-910F" (for "IDE to IEEE 1394"). The second most important piece of hardware is a functional USB port. Fortunately, you probably already have one built into your PC's motherboard. Unfortunately, you may have buggy USB ports; I've heard that some older VIA-chipset-based motherboards have buggy USB ports. If you have one of these, you may be out-of-luck. You also need one supported by FreeBSD, although most are, if not all. ***** Getting It All Working: * First, decide if you're going to dedicate the entire USB disk to FreeBSD, or if you're going to use/share it with Windows. You've got three choices: 1. Use the entire disk for FreeBSD. Even though you're going to use the entire disk for FreeBSD, you should use Windows 2000/ME/XP to format the disk and put a small Windows volume on the disk; this will be used later as a test to see if you need to apply some kernel tweaks. If you don't have access to a Windows system, don't worry; you can just assume that you need to apply the tweaks. 2. Use the entire disk for Windows. If so, use Windows to format the disk, and let it use up all the disk space. If you're using WinNT or above, you'll probably want to format the disk as FAT32, as NTFS is not well supported by FreeBSD. 3. Partition the disk into two parts: one for FreeBSD, and one for Windows. If so, use Windows to format the disk (just like the previous step), but do not allocate the entire disk to Windows. Again, if you're using WinNT or above, you'll want to format the drive as FAT32 and not NTFS. * Disconnect the USB disk from your system, if it's currently connected. You want to leave the disk disconnected for now. * Next, you need to get and boot a recent version of FreeBSD-STABLE. If you don't know how, follow the directions in the handbook to do so. You also need to make sure that you have the kernel sources, as you'll probably have to edit the kernel sources and rebuild it. It has to be a recent FreeBSD-STABLE. Unfortunately, FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE will probably not work. I was using FreeBSD-STABLE as of mid-February 2002 (released after 4.5-RELEASE), and the USB drivers in that version would not work; I would get errors like: umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT However, after noticing that a number of USB-related changes have been made, I upgraded to FreeBSD-STABLE (March 19, 2002 as of ~3AM PST, CVS tag: RELENG_4). After a bit of tweaking, I was eventually able to get the USB disk working. * Configure the kernel for USB devices. If you're using the standard, GENERIC, kernel, this has already been done for you, and you can skip this step. However, note that, in subsequent steps, you will still have to edit the kernel sources, rebuild the kernel, and reboot. At this point, we're only interested in getting enough functionality working to query the USB bus and USB hard disk, in order to get the necessary information that we'll later use to edit to the kernel sources. [ Note: the following is for people who have customized their kernels, and are not using the standard, GENERIC, kernel. It's assumed that they know how to configure and build a kernel. ] If you're using a nonstandard kernel, you need to have built a kernel with the following devices: # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) You also need to add the basic PCI-USB driver, depending on the hardware that you have; also add one of the following: device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface It's generally easiest to just add both, though. You need additional USB device drivers, although these can be either built into the kernel, or loaded as kernel modules: device usb # USB Bus (required) device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da * Enable the USB daemon (the next time you reboot) by adding the following line to /etc/rc.conf: usbd_enable="YES" * Reboot FreeBSD to make sure that USB support is enabled. If you're using the standard GENERIC kernel, you can skip this step. * Connect the USB disk to your system. In the syslog (and, usually, the console), messages similar to the following will appear, but they'll be somewhat different: umass0: DMI USB 2.0 Storage Adaptor, rev 2.00/10.07, addr 3 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 650KB/s transfers da0: 19077MB (39070080 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 19077C) Note the disk drive identification; in the above, it's: TOSHIBA MK2016GAP U0.3 Yours will probably be different. Make a note of the EXACT string. If you don't see messages like the above when you connect the disk, you're probably using a buggy version of FreeBSD. You probably need to upgrade. This is especially true if you see errors like: umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT * Hopefully, you have a windows partition on the disk (if you don't, assume that you need to apply the kernel tweaks, and skip to the next step). As a test (which will probably fail), try mounting it: mount_msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt You may have to edit the above command before running it: + If you only added one Windows volume to the disk, the device name will be /dev/da0s1. If you have more than one Windows volume, the device name will be different, and you'll have to replace "/dev/da0s1" with the correct name. + You can use "/mnt" only if there isn't already something mounted there. If there is, use something else. Chances are, the above command will fail (assuming that you used the correct parameters), with messages like the following appearing in the syslog/console: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(06). CDB: 8 0 0 0 4 0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:21,0 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Logical block address out of range If you see this, don't worry; it just means that you have to tweak the kernel sources. In the above, note that the failing command is, "READ(06)"; if you see anything else, stop now, as something else is going wrong, and the rest of these instructions will probably not help you. If, by some miracle, the above command actually succeeds, rejoice. It means that you do not have to tweak the kernel sources, and that the USB disk should already be fully functional under FreeBSD. You can skip the rest of these steps, and start using the disk normally (but see the cautions below on disconnecting the disk from the USB bus!). * If the above mount failed, it means that you probably need to apply some kernel tweaks. What's happening is that FreeBSD treats an IDE USB disk as a SCSI disk, and tries to send it 6-byte SCSI commands, but the USB disk probably understands only 10-byte SCSI commands, and gives errors when 6-byte commands are used. [ Yes, it may seem strange, treating an IDE USB disk as a SCSI one, but it's actually a pretty good idea. This simplifies driver writing, because the USB driver only has to worry about low-level details, and the higher-level SCSI driver can handle a lot of the upper-level details. ] Fortunately, FreeBSD allows you to mark certain SCSI devices as being incapable of understanding 6-byte SCSI commands, which is a passable workaround for this problem. Ideally, the driver should fall back to using 10-byte commands if 6-byte one fails, but this does not (yet?) exist in FreeBSD-STABLE (I believe it does exist in FreeBSD-CURRENT, though). This is where the drive identification string comes in (you did make a note of it, above, right?). Here's a tricky part: you have to break up this drive identification string into a manufacturer name, a model name, and a revision. Hopefully, you're familiar with disk drive manufacturers; if you're not, ask around. In the above example, the drive identification string is (and this will almost certainly be different for you): TOSHIBA MK2016GAP U0.3 Here, the manufacturer name is "TOSHIBA", and the model name is "MK2016GAP", and the revision is "U0.3". Note that this one's easy; other drive identification strings may have additional spaces. The two key parts you'll need are the manufacturer and model names. Make a note of them. * As root, go to /usr/src/sys/cam/scsi, and edit the file, "scsi_da.c". Search for the variable, "da_quirk_table"; you want to locate where it is defined. The variable, "da_quirk_table", contains a list of all SCSI devices that need to be specially handled, and it is here where we need to add an entry for our USB disk. Basically, to this variable, you want to add an entry like: { {T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_FIXED, "TOSHIBA", "MK2016GAP", "*"}, /*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE }, Replace "TOSHIBA" with the manufacturer name of your disk, and replace "MK2016GAP" with the model name. This will tell FreeBSD to specially handle your USB disk -- to not use 6-byte SCSI commands. Rebuild your kernel (don't forget to do a "make depend"), and reboot. The USB disk should be functional. >From here, you should be able to use the disk normally. However, before physically disconnecting the USB disk from the USB bus, do not forget to unmount any mounted filesystems that come off the USB disk. Bad Things Will Happen if you disconnect the disk before unmounting any such filesystems (you may lose data, or FreeBSD might crash). If part or all of the disk is going to be used for FreeBSD, just follow the instructions in the handbook. ***** Notes: * When using an USB disk, do not forget to unmount any filesystems that come off the USB disk. Bad Things Will Happen if you disconnect the disk before unmounting any such filesystems. You may lose data, or FreeBSD might crash. * For instructions on adding a disk to FreeBSD, see the chapter called, "Storage". --}-<> ----- End forwarded message ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 11:59: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wiebel.dommel.com (wiebel.dommel.com [64.37.114.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 584D237B404 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:59:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17002 invoked by uid 99); 25 Mar 2002 19:59:00 -0000 Received: from 213.224.83.70 ( [213.224.83.70]) as user bart.peiren@nephilimco.com@wiebel.dommel.com by wiebel.dommel.com with HTTP; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:58:59 +0100 Message-ID: <1017086339.3c9f8183dad6f@wiebel.dommel.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:58:59 +0100 From: Bart Peiren To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 213.224.83.70 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 12: 4:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dastardly.newsbastards.org.72.27.172.IN-addr.ARPA.NetScum.dyndns.dk (dclient217-162-214-218.hispeed.ch [217.162.214.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0596437B405; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from beerswilling.netscum.dyndns.dk (dcf77-zeit.netscum.dyndns.dk [172.27.72.27] (may be forged)) by dastardly.newsbastards.org.72.27.172.IN-addr.ARPA.NetScum.dyndns.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2PK4XE01220 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified FAIL); Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:04:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bounce@netscum.dyndns.dk) Received: (from root@localhost) by beerswilling.netscum.dyndns.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2PK4WG01219; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:04:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bounce@netscum.dyndns.dk) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:04:32 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200203252004.g2PK4WG01219@beerswilling.netscum.dyndns.dk> From: BOUWSMA Beery Organization: Men not wearing any pants that dont shave To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld with ro /usr/src broken References: <20020209130437.GA15287@myhakas.estpak.ee> <200202091743.g19HhIm00362@beerswilling.netscum.dyndns.dk> <20020227111914.GB30220@sunbay.com> <20020227155244.A24137@newtrinity.default-network.net> <20020227204012.GA99496@sunbay.com> <200203102012.g2AKCbZ00762@beerswilling.netscum.dyndns.dk> <20020311111138.GA4678@sunbay.com> X-Hacked: via telnet to your port 25, what else? X-NetScum: Yes X-One-And-Only-Real-True-Fluffy: No Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > MAKEOBJDIR[PREFIX] only work right if set as environment variables. > > Hmmm, so why then am I now buildworld'ing -current (and have been for > > the past almost five hours) with a read-only /usr/src > > using only the commandline `time nice make buildworld' with the > > object tree being put in > > bash-2.05a$ ls -lart /usr/obj/5.0-CURRENT/usr/src/ > > MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX?= /usr/obj/${RELNAME} > > You're right, though, that not all targets will work with this. > > Here's what I get with the `all' target: > > FATAL: can't create cat.o: Read-only file system > > However, as part of a `buildworld' or `buildkernel' or `installworld' > > run, I do get things put in the proper place, rather than building > You don't see this behavior with `buildworld' etc. targets because > Makefile.inc1 sets it for you in environment, and executes another > copy of make(1) with this environment to actually build the target. Yes. That is why I was hoping that by explicitly specifying the Makefile.inc1 as part of the `make' command, I could make other targets like `all' pick up the /etc/make.conf-conditionally-set value, and Do The Right Thing. But I couldn't find the right incantation in quick testing... Anyway, with as many people as I see having problems with using the unofficial unsupported-but-seems-like-it-works ``?='' version that I've suggested to try in make.conf, I'll make a deal -- I'll stop suggesting it, if you don't deliberately make it impossible to use ;-) (I mean the `?=' conditional assignment in make.conf, not the `=' absolute assignment that we all agree doesn't work, is b0rken, should not be used, needs to be stamped from the face of the earth, is the root of all evil, and so on) Hmmm, no way to get targets other than `buildworld' and its ilk to use Makefile.inc1 this way, is there? I've had to use the `env MAKEOBJDIR=/foo...' all the times I rebuild a single module or one binary recently, so it's no big deal for me now -- so long as I remember. So, no more suggestions from me to try it with make.conf. It seems to lead people astray to do Bad Things. thanks, barry bouwsma To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 12:34:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yellow.biolateral.com.au (yellow.biolateral.com.au [129.78.217.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B0C37B420 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tonym@localhost) by yellow.biolateral.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2PKWji45725; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:32:45 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from tonym) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:32:45 +1100 (EST) From: Tony Maher Message-Id: <200203252032.g2PKWji45725@yellow.biolateral.com.au> To: oberman@es.net Subject: Re: panic on resume (ata related?) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020325155010.639625D06@ptavv.es.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks! I knew about the ATA merge but missed seeing the patches. I'll try tonight when I get home. -- tonym To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 13:15:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0322E37B400 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:15:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2PLFqGd055834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2PLFquB055831; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:15:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:15:52 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm about to begin the MFC of sendmail 8.12.2 into -STABLE. While I am doing the MFC, it's likely that a buildworld will fail. I'll post again when I'm done (expected to take about 15 to 20 minutes). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 13:55:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nat72962.owentools.com (nat72962.owentools.com [206.50.138.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCDD37B405 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from meoqu.gank.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by owen1492.it.oot (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549D4D090 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:54:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:54:09 -0600 From: Craig Boston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020321 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: >I'm about to begin the MFC of sendmail 8.12.2 into -STABLE. While I am >doing the MFC, it's likely that a buildworld will fail. I'll post again >when I'm done (expected to take about 15 to 20 minutes). > Question: How will this MFC (and the addition of the local submission daemon into the rc scripts) affect those of us running postfix through mailwrapper? Does something special need to be done in mailer.conf to make sure both mail daemons don't end up running? I would assume that even with NO_SENDMAIL=true in my make.conf, I would still need to keep a close eye on mergemaster to keep things from going belly up. Apologies if this has been covered already, but I don't remember seeing it during the discussion of the patches. Thanks, Craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14: 2:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A7F37B404 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:02:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2PM2iGd056446 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:02:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2PM2iSo056443; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:02:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15519.40580.457193.43260@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:02:44 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) In-Reply-To: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG gshapiro> I'm about to begin the MFC of sendmail 8.12.2 into -STABLE. gshapiro> While I am doing the MFC, it's likely that a buildworld will gshapiro> fail. I'll post again when I'm done (expected to take about 15 gshapiro> to 20 minutes). The MFC and infrastructure commits are complete. buildworld should be back to normal (I'm doing to a test run on a fresh checkout to be sure). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14: 5:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from greg.cex.ca (h24-207-26-100.dlt.dccnet.com [24.207.26.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8890237B416 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:05:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26859 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Mar 2002 22:05:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:05:55 -0800 From: Greg White To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) Message-ID: <20020325140555.A25417@greg.cex.ca> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org>; from craig@meoqu.gank.org on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 03:54:09PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon Mar 03/25/02, 2002 at 03:54:09PM -0600, Craig Boston wrote: > Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > > >I'm about to begin the MFC of sendmail 8.12.2 into -STABLE. While I am > >doing the MFC, it's likely that a buildworld will fail. I'll post again > >when I'm done (expected to take about 15 to 20 minutes). > > > Question: How will this MFC (and the addition of the local submission > daemon into the rc scripts) affect those of us running postfix through > mailwrapper? Does something special need to be done in mailer.conf to > make sure both mail daemons don't end up running? > > I would assume that even with NO_SENDMAIL=true in my make.conf, I would > still need to keep a close eye on mergemaster to keep things from going > belly up. My personal preference: gregw@localhost:~$ cat /etc/make.conf | egrep -i mail NO_SENDMAIL= true # do not build sendmail and related programs NO_MAILWRAPPER= true # Don't build mailwrapper either. ;) and simply set it the way I want the one time. HTH, -- Greg White To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14:10:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9907F37B43B for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2PMAXGd056529 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2PMAXhD056526; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:10:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:10:32 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Craig Boston Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) In-Reply-To: <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG craig> Question: How will this MFC (and the addition of the local submission craig> daemon into the rc scripts) affect those of us running postfix through craig> mailwrapper? Does something special need to be done in mailer.conf to craig> make sure both mail daemons don't end up running? Assuming you expect something other than /etc/rc to start postfix's daemon(s), make sure you have these lines in your /etc/rc.conf to be safe: sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14:14:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F4037B405 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP id GQF37091; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:14:50 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B714D5D04; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:14:49 -0800 (PST) To: Craig Boston Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:54:09 CST." <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:14:49 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20020325221449.B714D5D04@ptavv.es.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:54:09 -0600 > From: Craig Boston > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Question: How will this MFC (and the addition of the local submission > daemon into the rc scripts) affect those of us running postfix through > mailwrapper? Does something special need to be done in mailer.conf to > make sure both mail daemons don't end up running? > > I would assume that even with NO_SENDMAIL=true in my make.conf, I would > still need to keep a close eye on mergemaster to keep things from going > belly up. Updates to sendmail should have no impact on Postfix, but you should ALWAYS keep a close eye on mergemaster! Whenever mergemaster hits a new mail.conf, simply keep the old one except for the RCS line at the top. (Select 'm'erge and select 'r'ight for the first diff and 'l'eft for subsequent differences. Then 'i'nstall to install the old mail.conf with the new RCS line so you won't get bugged every time you run mergemaster. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14:17:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melchior.enst.fr [137.194.161.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857CB37B425; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:17:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melusine.enst.fr [137.194.160.34]) by melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8C98A27; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:17:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DD9132C3D1; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:17:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:17:20 +0100 From: Thomas Quinot To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: Craig Boston , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) Message-ID: <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Reply-To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net>; from gshapiro@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:10:32PM -0800 X-message-flag: WARNING! Using Outlook can damage your computer. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le 2002-03-25, Gregory Neil Shapiro écrivait : > Assuming you expect something other than /etc/rc to start postfix's > daemon(s), make sure you have these lines in your /etc/rc.conf to be safe: > > sendmail_enable="NO" > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > sendmail_submit_enable="NO" Could the behaviour of rc be changed so that setting sendmail_enable to NO disables Sendmail? It is (to me aT least) a severe POLA violation to see /etc/rc starting Sendmail (sendmail_outbound actually) after setting sendmail_enable to NO. Thomas. -- Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14:19:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4B437B419 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:19:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2PMJ8Gd071870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2PMJ7OB071860; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:19:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15519.41563.608637.748981@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:19:07 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org Cc: Craig Boston , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) In-Reply-To: <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Assuming you expect something other than /etc/rc to start postfix's >> daemon(s), make sure you have these lines in your /etc/rc.conf to be safe: >> >> sendmail_enable="NO" >> sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" >> sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" >> sendmail_submit_enable="NO" thomas> Could the behaviour of rc be changed so that setting sendmail_enable thomas> to NO disables Sendmail? It is (to me aT least) a severe POLA violation thomas> to see /etc/rc starting Sendmail (sendmail_outbound actually) after thomas> setting sendmail_enable to NO. sendmail_outbound_enable is specifically in place if sendmail_enable is set to NO (as is sendmail_submit_enable). Ignoring the others if sendmail_enable was set to NO would break the reason for their very existance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14:32: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melchior.enst.fr [137.194.161.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86F437B813; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melusine.enst.fr [137.194.160.34]) by melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B578A46; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:26:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7B4692C3D1; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:26:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:26:33 +0100 From: Thomas Quinot To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org, Craig Boston , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) Message-ID: <20020325232633.D75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Reply-To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.41563.608637.748981@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15519.41563.608637.748981@horsey.gshapiro.net>; from gshapiro@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:19:07PM -0800 X-message-flag: WARNING! Using Outlook can damage your computer. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le 2002-03-25, Gregory Neil Shapiro écrivait : > sendmail_outbound_enable is specifically in place if sendmail_enable is > set to NO (as is sendmail_submit_enable). Ignoring the others if > sendmail_enable was set to NO would break the reason for their very > existance. OK, but then the sendmail_enable variable is misnamed, and should be renamed to something like sendmail_inbound_enable. It is really confusing to see Sendmail starting when the administrator has taken explicit steps to disable it. Thomas. -- Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14:33: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melchior.enst.fr [137.194.161.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BA237B91F for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:31:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melusine.enst.fr [137.194.160.34]) by melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709638A27; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:23:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D3A942C3D1; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:23:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:23:48 +0100 From: Thomas Quinot To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Craig Boston , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) Message-ID: <20020325232348.C75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Reply-To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org References: <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> <20020325221449.B714D5D04@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020325221449.B714D5D04@ptavv.es.net>; from oberman@es.net on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:14:49PM -0800 X-message-flag: WARNING! Using Outlook can damage your computer. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le 2002-03-25, Kevin Oberman écrivait : > Updates to sendmail should have no impact on Postfix, but you should > ALWAYS keep a close eye on mergemaster! > > Whenever mergemaster hits a new mail.conf, simply keep the old one This is not sufficient to keep Postfix running when the new version of Sendmail is installed. See PR ports/35775: you either have to disable Sendmail altogether in your rc.conf, and start Postfix from rc.local or a /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ script, or leave sendmail_enable to YES and set sendmail_flags="-bd". Thomas. -- Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14:36:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7708637B43E for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2PMXmGd093491 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:33:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2PMXmci093488; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:33:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15519.42443.783285.129952@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:33:47 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org Cc: Craig Boston , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) In-Reply-To: <20020325232633.D75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.41563.608637.748981@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325232633.D75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> sendmail_outbound_enable is specifically in place if sendmail_enable is >> set to NO (as is sendmail_submit_enable). Ignoring the others if >> sendmail_enable was set to NO would break the reason for their very >> existance. thomas> OK, but then the sendmail_enable variable is misnamed, and should thomas> be renamed to something like sendmail_inbound_enable. It is really thomas> confusing to see Sendmail starting when the administrator has taken thomas> explicit steps to disable it. Yes, the naming is unfortunate. But I wonder if it's been around too long to change now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14:41:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clink.schulte.org (clink.schulte.org [209.134.156.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E1437B85D; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from schulte-laptop.nospam.schulte.org (nb-65.netbriefings.com [209.134.134.65]) by clink.schulte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B2D243C0; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:38:25 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020325162923.01ba4470@pop3s.schulte.org> X-Sender: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:37:00 -0600 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro , thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) Cc: Craig Boston , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <15519.41563.608637.748981@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:19 PM 3/25/2002 -0800, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: >sendmail_outbound_enable is specifically in place if sendmail_enable is >set to NO (as is sendmail_submit_enable). Ignoring the others if >sendmail_enable was set to NO would break the reason for their very >existance. Maybe allow something new, like COMPLETELY_DISABLE_SENDMAIL="YES" so we have one definitive way to disable all sendmail processes, rather than having to keep an eye out for all various SENDMAIL_*="NO" directives which may change over time. Some sort of script like /usr/local/etc/rc.d/$MTA.sh would be used for startup, like any other third party daemon. Is this just one 'bump' with the 8.12.x series that will not rear its head again for a long while? -- Christopher Schulte http://www.schulte.org/ Do not un-munge my @nospam.schulte.org email address. This address is valid. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14:45:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4EF37B485 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP id GQF37091; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:33:29 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA795D05; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:33:28 -0800 (PST) To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org Cc: Craig Boston , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:23:48 +0100." <20020325232348.C75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:33:28 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20020325223328.BFA795D05@ptavv.es.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:23:48 +0100 > From: Thomas Quinot > > This is not sufficient to keep Postfix running when the new version of > Sendmail is installed. See PR ports/35775: you either have to disable > Sendmail altogether in your rc.conf, and start Postfix from rc.local > or a /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ script, or leave sendmail_enable to YES > and set sendmail_flags="-bd". Sorry. I totally missed this. Wouldn't an update to mailwrappper be another possible way to deal with this? (And, maybe a more correct one?) R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14:45:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3BA37B427 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:44:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2PMijGd029322 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:44:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2PMijuP029307; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:44:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15519.43101.387704.779894@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:44:45 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Christopher Schulte Cc: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org, Craig Boston , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020325162923.01ba4470@pop3s.schulte.org> References: <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020325162923.01ba4470@pop3s.schulte.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG schulte+freebsd> Maybe allow something new, like schulte+freebsd> COMPLETELY_DISABLE_SENDMAIL="YES" Perhaps.. schulte+freebsd> Some sort of script like /usr/local/etc/rc.d/$MTA.sh would schulte+freebsd> be used for startup, like any other third party daemon. It wouldn't be in /usr/local/etc/rc.d as sendmail is part of the base system. Work is going on in -CURRENT (although stalled at the moment) to move to an /etc/rc.d/ system. schulte+freebsd> Is this just one 'bump' with the 8.12.x series that will schulte+freebsd> not rear its head again for a long while? It's a bump as unlink previous releases, sendmail 8.12 is no longer set-user-ID root. This required a lot of work on the infrastructure. However, I can't guarantee things won't change over time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14:52:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melchior.enst.fr [137.194.161.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A464D37B400; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melusine.enst.fr [137.194.160.34]) by melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419788A4C; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:52:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B16862C3D1; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:52:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:52:05 +0100 From: Thomas Quinot To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org, Craig Boston , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) Message-ID: <20020325235205.A78568@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Reply-To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.41563.608637.748981@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325232633.D75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.42443.783285.129952@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15519.42443.783285.129952@horsey.gshapiro.net>; from gshapiro@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:33:47PM -0800 X-message-flag: WARNING! Using Outlook can damage your computer. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le 2002-03-25, Gregory Neil Shapiro écrivait : > Yes, the naming is unfortunate. But I wonder if it's been around too long > to change now. What is unfortunate is not the name of the variable per se, but the fact that with the introduction of 8.12, the name has become out of synch with the functionality. There could be a number of solutions: 1. renaming sendmail_enable to sendmail_inbound_enable, and deprecate the use of sendmail_enable altogether; 2. renaming sendmail_enable to sendmail_inbound_enable, and changing the meaning of sendmail_enable=NO to 'do not launch any Sendmail process'. 1. requires you to update uyour config if you are using sendmail_enable=YES. Probably impacts a significant fraction of the user base. 2. requires you to update your configuration only if you are using sendmail_enable=NO *but* need Sendmail to send mail out anyway. I guess it should impact far less users than 1. Not changing anything requires anyone not using Sendmail as his MTA to learn about Sendmail 8.12 internals in order to disable it completely. Thomas. -- Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 14:55:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A780A37B400 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:54:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2PMsrGd053506 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:54:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2PMsre5053481; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:54:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15519.43708.643975.266286@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:54:52 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org Cc: Craig Boston , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) In-Reply-To: <20020325235205.A78568@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.41563.608637.748981@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325232633.D75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.42443.783285.129952@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325235205.A78568@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG thomas> What is unfortunate is not the name of the variable per se, but the thomas> fact that with the introduction of 8.12, the name has become out of thomas> synch with the functionality. sendmail_outbound_enable was added over a year ago -- it has nothing to do with the 8.12 import: Revision 1.94, Tue Mar 13 05:53:16 2001 UTC (12 months, 1 week ago) by peter Branch: MAIN Changes since 1.93: +5 -3 lines Diff to previous 1.93 (colored) At great personal risk, touch the sendmail startup again. This adds easy seperate knobs for inbound (accepting SMTP connections) and outbound (just occasionally dequeueing) sendmail daemon startup. It's always happened if sendmail_enable was set to "NO". That's how Peter wanted it. thomas> Not changing anything requires anyone not using Sendmail as his thomas> MTA to learn about Sendmail 8.12 internals in order to disable it thomas> completely. I think this is an exaggeration. You don't need to learn the internals of sendmail. You need to either read /etc/mail/README or read the rc.conf man page. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 15: 3: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E7D37B426 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2PN20Gd070612 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:02:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2PN1xdk070588; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:01:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15519.44135.77218.536123@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:01:59 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org Cc: Craig Boston , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) In-Reply-To: <20020325235205.A78568@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.41563.608637.748981@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325232633.D75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.42443.783285.129952@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325235205.A78568@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG thomas> What is unfortunate is not the name of the variable per se, but the thomas> fact that with the introduction of 8.12, the name has become out of thomas> synch with the functionality. Here is a proposed solution: Index: etc/rc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/rc,v retrieving revision 1.305 diff -u -r1.305 rc --- etc/rc 25 Mar 2002 20:53:48 -0000 1.305 +++ etc/rc 25 Mar 2002 22:58:42 -0000 @@ -703,6 +703,8 @@ esac case ${sendmail_enable} in +[Nn][Oo][Nn][Ee]) + ;; [Yy][Ee][Ss]) echo -n ' sendmail' /usr/sbin/sendmail ${sendmail_flags} & @@ -723,14 +725,20 @@ ;; esac -if [ -r /etc/mail/submit.cf ]; then - case ${sendmail_msp_queue_enable} in - [Yy][Ee][Ss]) - echo -n ' sendmail-clientmqueue' - /usr/sbin/sendmail ${sendmail_msp_queue_flags} - ;; - esac -fi +case ${sendmail_enable} in +[Nn][Oo][Nn][Ee]) + ;; +*) + if [ -r /etc/mail/submit.cf ]; then + case ${sendmail_msp_queue_enable} in + [Yy][Ee][Ss]) + echo -n ' sendmail-clientmqueue' + /usr/sbin/sendmail ${sendmail_msp_queue_flags} + ;; + esac + fi + ;; +esac echo '.' Index: etc/defaults/rc.conf =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/defaults/rc.conf,v retrieving revision 1.140 diff -u -r1.140 rc.conf --- etc/defaults/rc.conf 12 Mar 2002 21:47:31 -0000 1.140 +++ etc/defaults/rc.conf 25 Mar 2002 22:59:10 -0000 @@ -335,7 +335,8 @@ lpd_flags="" # Flags to lpd (if enabled). usbd_enable="NO" # Run the usbd daemon. usbd_flags="" # Flags to usbd (if enabled). -sendmail_enable="NO" # Run the sendmail inbound daemon (YES/NO). +sendmail_enable="NO" # Run the sendmail inbound daemon (YES/NO/NONE). + # If NONE, don't start any sendmail processes. sendmail_flags="-L sm-mta -bd -q30m" # Flags to sendmail (as a server) sendmail_outbound_enable="YES" # Dequeue stuck mail (YES/NO). sendmail_outbound_flags="-L sm-queue -q30m" # Flags to sendmail (outbound only) Index: share/man/man5/rc.conf.5 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man5/rc.conf.5,v retrieving revision 1.157 diff -u -r1.157 rc.conf.5 --- share/man/man5/rc.conf.5 17 Mar 2002 14:52:54 -0000 1.157 +++ share/man/man5/rc.conf.5 25 Mar 2002 23:00:00 -0000 @@ -1717,12 +1717,17 @@ .Xr lpd 8 daemon. .It Va sendmail_enable -.Pq Vt bool +.Pq Vt str If set to .Dq Li YES , run the .Xr sendmail 8 daemon at system boot time. +If set to +.Dq Li NONE , +do not run any +.Xr sendmail 8 +processes at system boot time. .It Va sendmail_flags .Pq Vt str If To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 15: 8:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melchior.enst.fr [137.194.161.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED85F37B404; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melusine.enst.fr [137.194.160.34]) by melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39A18582; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 00:08:04 +0100 (CET) Received: by melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B3F82C3D3; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 00:08:04 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 00:08:04 +0100 From: Thomas Quinot To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org, Craig Boston , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) Message-ID: <20020326000804.A80247@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Reply-To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.41563.608637.748981@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325232633.D75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.42443.783285.129952@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325235205.A78568@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.43708.643975.266286@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15519.43708.643975.266286@horsey.gshapiro.net>; from gshapiro@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:54:52PM -0800 X-message-flag: WARNING! Using Outlook can damage your computer. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le 2002-03-25, Gregory Neil Shapiro écrivait : > sendmail_outbound_enable was added over a year ago -- it has nothing to do > with the 8.12 import: OK. I did not notice that until sendmail_enable=YES became incompatible with Postfix. You proposed solution (YES/NO/NONE) looks fine to me. -- Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 15:27:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clink.schulte.org (clink.schulte.org [209.134.156.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280E137B405; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from schulte-laptop.nospam.schulte.org (nb-65.netbriefings.com [209.134.134.65]) by clink.schulte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37977243C0; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:27:17 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020325171650.0471a740@pop3s.schulte.org> X-Sender: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:25:52 -0600 To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org, Gregory Neil Shapiro From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) Cc: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org, Craig Boston , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020326000804.A80247@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> References: <15519.43708.643975.266286@horsey.gshapiro.net> <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> <15519.41048.709126.956805@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325231720.B75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.41563.608637.748981@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325232633.D75467@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.42443.783285.129952@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325235205.A78568@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.43708.643975.266286@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:08 AM 3/26/2002 +0100, Thomas Quinot wrote: >You proposed solution (YES/NO/NONE) looks fine to me. Agreed. As long as the new behavior of "sendmail_enable" is documented clearly in the release notes/UPDATING/whatever, NONE as an option should be OK. A faq entry may be appropriate, based on question volume after the changes are in place and documented. Thanks, Gregory. >-- > Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG -- Christopher Schulte http://www.schulte.org/ Do not un-munge my @nospam.schulte.org email address. This address is valid. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 15:36: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A853737B49B for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2PNW1Gd011179 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2PNW0D6011176; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:32:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15519.45936.749059.114606@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 15:32:00 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG sendmail 8.12.2 has been MFC'ed into -STABLE (RELENG_4). sendmail 8.12 has been developed with two main topics in mind: enhanced security and better performance. sendmail is by default not set-user-ID root anymore which avoids potential local root exploits. See /etc/mail/README (after running mergemaster) for information about possible gotchas with this new version. For more information about the new functionality in 8.12, visit: http://www.sendmail.org/8.12.0.html /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/RELEASE_NOTES and /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/src/SECURITY may also be of interest. Aditionally, the default /etc/mail/sendmail.cf (based on /usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc) no longer uses FEATURE(`relay_based_on_MX') and sendmail_outbound_enable now defaults to "YES" in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 16: 2:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A6E37B400 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:02:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 2A51A607; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 00:01:38 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 00:01:38 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Volker Stolz Cc: Wilko Bulte , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: umass/memory stick Message-ID: <20020326000138.GC1269@genius.tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Volker Stolz , Wilko Bulte , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020322210053.A2969@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> <20020322210947.A59695@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020322201353.GC45972@genius.tao.org.uk> <20020324100653.A3290@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020324100653.A3290@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 10:06:53AM +0100, Volker Stolz wrote: > Am 22. Mar 2002 um 21:13 MET schrieb Josef Karthauser: > > You could try applying the usb patch set at http://www.josef-k.net/misc > > That includes the 6 to 10 byte code from -current. > > The patch applies cleanly, but the problem persists. Do I have to wibble a > knob or something? No; if it doesn't work then we'll probably need a code quirk in there. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 16:18:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412CE37B420 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020326001818.DPGS1147.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 00:18:18 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2Q0IIu86906; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:18:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:18:17 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Michael Hostbaek Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newsyslog.conf - sudden error Message-ID: <20020325161817.C84226@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <20020325102339.GC529@mich.itxmarket.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020325102339.GC529@mich.itxmarket.com>; from mich@freebsdcluster.org on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 11:23:39AM +0100 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 11:23:39AM +0100, Michael Hostbaek wrote: > hi, > > I have 3 FreeBSD boxes running ipfw at three different locations.. 2 of > the boxes are 4.5-STABLE and the last is 4.4-STABLE. > > Last night, both the 4.5-STABLE boxes started to produce the following > error.. > > > Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:00:00 +0100 (CET) > To: root > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > X-Cron-Env: > > newsyslog: malformed at: > /var/log/ipfw 600 10 * $W0D2 Z > > > > The 4.4-STABLE has the exact same configuration, however with no errors. > > The two other boxes have been running, for several months, without any > problems, and no changes have been made recently. And as far as I can > see, the syntax in /etc/newsyslog.conf seems allright to me. > > Any pointers would be greatly appreciated, thanks.. That error message means it's having trouble reading the "$W0D2." But I believe that is valid syntax. I can't see any recent changes to newsyslog(8) that might be making problems. Is there something special about that time? There wasn't some kind of DST-Standard time switch in the local timezone, was there (kind of early in the year for that)? -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 17: 8: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2596237B416 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:07:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdn-ar-012orportp079.dialsprint.net ([63.180.14.167] helo=yak) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16pfRD-00067K-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:07:48 -0800 Message-ID: <007401c1d464$27121880$010aa8c0@traversedair.net> From: "Mike Eubanks" To: References: <004901c1d366$1023ef80$010aa8c0@traversedair.net> <20020324163140.C82944@blossom.cjclark.org> Subject: Re: Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl during make buildworld Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:18:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crist J. Clark" To: "Mike Eubanks" Cc: Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 4:31 PM Subject: Re: Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl during make buildworld > On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 10:59:44AM -0800, Mike Eubanks wrote: > > I am trying to do a complete system build and upgrade to FreeBSD 4.5.0 > > STABLE. The system doing the compiling is FreeBSD 4.0. The following > > errors were encountered using the 'make buildworld' command in /usr/src. > > > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl > > -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../../../../con > > trib > > erl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i38 > > 6/us > > r/include -L/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl -static > > -o m > > iniperl miniperlmain.o opmini.o > > /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../l > > ibperl/libperl.a -lm -lcrypt -lutil > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > > Abort trap > > Abort trap > > -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../../../../contrib > > /per > > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/in > > clud > > e -c perlmain.c > > *** Error code 134 > > *** Error code 134 > > 2 errors > > *** Error code 2 > > 1 error > > *** Error code 2 > > 1 error > > *** Error code 2 > > 1 error > > *** Error code 2 > > 1 error > > *** Error code 2 > > 1 error > > *** Error code 2 > > ELF binary type not known. Use "brandelf" to brand it. > > > > I tried to re-simulate the error by changing to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/ > > and executing make. This is the output I received. > > Can you do that again with, > > # make -dl > > So we can see exactly which command is being executed. Looks like we > may be missing a crosstool? > -- > Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu > | cjclark@jhu.edu > http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org ??? I would, but these are the valid flags for the -d option in make according to the man page. I tried it anyway and make did not execute, and, unfortunately i do not know what u mean by crosstool? Instead of # make -dl I used # make -d g2 The output file was fairly large so I posted it at http://cs.clark.edu/~meubanks/errors1.MSE. SNIPPET FROM MAN PAGE: -d flags Turn on debugging, and specify which portions of make are to print debugging information. Argument flags is one or more of the following: A Print all possible debugging information; equivalent to specifying all of the debugging flags. a Print debugging information about archive searching and caching. c Print debugging information about conditional evaluation. d Print debugging information about directory searching and caching. f Print debugging information about the execution of for loops. Currently a no-op. g1 Print the input graph before making anything. g2 Print the input graph after making everything, or before exiting on error. j Print debugging information about running multiple shells. m Print debugging information about making targets, includ- ing modification dates. s Print debugging information about suffix-transformation rules. t Print debugging information about target list mainte- nance. v Print debugging information about variable assignment. ------------------- Mike Eubanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 17:17:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D363137B416 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 4.00) id 16pfaN-000Dcc-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:17:15 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: hot-syncing a palm through natd to vmware Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:17:15 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG if you thought i was getting kinky yesterday, just read on. palm pilot with 802.11 at address pda-ip-addr freebsd host with 802.11 at address freebsd.public.addr the freebsd host is running vmware, natd, ... /etc/natd.conf says dynamic yes unregistered_only yes interface wi0 redirect_port tcp 198.168.254.2:137-139 137-139 redirect_port udp 198.168.254.2:137-139 137-139 redirect_port udp 198.168.254.2:14237-14239 14237-14239 under the vmware is a win98 client at address 198.168.254.2 i can hot sync the pda to the win98 when it is stand-alone booted to windoze. i am trying to hot-sync the pda to the win98 through the nat. this is a tcpdump -i wi0 src pda-ip-addr or dst pda-ip-addr of the failed session, with tcpdump running on the freebsd host. 16:56:32.398388 pda-ip-addr.14123 > freebsd.public.addr.14237: udp 25 16:56:32.398717 pda-ip-addr.14123 > 198.168.254.2.14237: udp 25 16:56:32.400144 pda-ip-addr.14123 > freebsd.public.addr.14237: udp 25 16:56:32.400353 pda-ip-addr.14123 > 198.168.254.2.14237: udp 25 16:56:32.500790 pda-ip-addr.14123 > freebsd.public.addr.14237: udp 25 16:56:32.501067 pda-ip-addr.14123 > 198.168.254.2.14237: udp 25 16:56:32.501556 pda-ip-addr.14123 > freebsd.public.addr.14237: udp 25 16:56:32.501775 pda-ip-addr.14123 > 198.168.254.2.14237: udp 25 16:56:32.503097 pda-ip-addr.14123 > freebsd.public.addr.14237: udp 25 16:56:32.503326 pda-ip-addr.14123 > 198.168.254.2.14237: udp 25 16:56:32.504054 pda-ip-addr.14123 > freebsd.public.addr.14237: udp 25 16:56:32.504295 pda-ip-addr.14123 > 198.168.254.2.14237: udp 25 16:56:37.518445 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:37.520659 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:39.464101 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:39.466304 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:41.512121 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:41.514344 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:43.457756 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:43.459967 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:45.505799 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:45.508012 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:47.451430 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:47.453642 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:49.499469 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:49.501678 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:51.445112 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:51.447316 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:53.493146 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:56:53.495362 arp who-has public.net.broadcast.addr tell pda-ip-addr 16:57:00.558899 pda-ip-addr.23660 > freebsd.public.addr.14238: S 3206817404:3206817404(0) win 2680 16:57:00.559189 freebsd.public.addr.14238 > pda-ip-addr.23660: R 0:0(0) ack 3206817405 win 0 16:57:00.562663 pda-ip-addr.23660 > freebsd.public.addr.14238: S 3206817404:3206817404(0) win 2680 16:57:00.562854 freebsd.public.addr.14238 > pda-ip-addr.23660: R 0:0(0) ack 1 win 0 16:57:00.663364 freebsd.public.addr.14238 > pda-ip-addr.23660: R 0:0(0) ack 1 win 0 16:57:01.382149 freebsd.public.addr.14238 > pda-ip-addr.23660: R 0:0(0) ack 1 win 0 *any* clues appreciated randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 18: 7:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from arjun.niksun.com (gwnew.niksun.com [63.148.27.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E8D37B416 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 18:07:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from celis.niksun.com (celis.niksun.com [10.1.0.48]) by arjun.niksun.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA40245 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:07:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ath@celis.niksun.com) Received: from celis (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by celis.niksun.com (8.11.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id g2Q26dO00776 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:06:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ath@celis.niksun.com) Message-Id: <200203260206.g2Q26dO00776@celis.niksun.com> From: Andrew Heybey To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: burncd can't/won't write from pipe? Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:06:39 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying 4.5-RELEASE plus Soren's patches for the new ata driver and burncd. I just got a CD-RW drive, so I don't know if this used to work or not. The following does not work: mkisofs -R | burncd -s 8 data - fixate mkisofs exits fairly quickly without any error messages that I saw (it did print some messages to stderr about files names that it was using). burncd prints: next writeable LBA 0 writing from stdin fixating CD, please wait.. and then sits there for a long time, with no activity from the CD-RW. I can Ctrl-C out of it. If I do the steps separately, everything works fine: mkisofs -R > ~/dir.iso burncd -s 8 data ~/dir.iso fixate Am I doing something dumb? What am I missing? andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 18:14:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306D237B41C; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 18:14:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (adsl-65-42-131-185.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net [65.42.131.185]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2Q2EMG13268; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:14:22 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200203260214.g2Q2EMG13268@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: David Syphers Reply-To: charon@seektruth.org To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:14:23 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020325235205.A78568@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> <15519.44135.77218.536123@horsey.gshapiro.net> In-Reply-To: <15519.44135.77218.536123@horsey.gshapiro.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 25 March 2002 05:01 pm, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > -sendmail_enable="NO" # Run the sendmail inbound daemon (YES/NO). > +sendmail_enable="NO" # Run the sendmail inbound daemon (YES/NO/NONE). Congratulations for such a productive solution. About two months ago there was a similar debate on the function of ipfw_enable, and it got heated and out of hand, and I don't think it was ever resolved. But here you had diffs for a tri-state variable in minutes. Thanks! -David -- Everyone who believes in telekinesis, raise my hand... Center for Cosmological Physics The University of Chicago To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 19: 4:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postal2.es.net (postal2.es.net [198.128.3.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C5437B41A for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal2.es.net (Postal Node 2) with ESMTP id GQF37091; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:04:29 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D60B5D04; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:04:29 -0800 (PST) To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: sos@freebsd.dk Subject: ATA still crashes on resume from suspend Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:04:29 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20020326030429.4D60B5D04@ptavv.es.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I saw that new versions of several ATA programs including ata-all.c had been loaded into stable. I hoped that this would fix the trap 12 when resuming from a suspend. No luck. Ian Dowses patches worked fine, but the code in stable still crashes. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 19:24:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCE437B41D for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.69.11] (unknown [192.168.69.11]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AD562D1A for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:24:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:24:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lamont Granquist To: Subject: more ATA crashing In-Reply-To: <20020326030429.4D60B5D04@ptavv.es.net> Message-ID: <20020325191923.M5198-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsupped to 4.5-STABLE on 3/20/02 and i'm starting to see some kernel panics on a system which had previously been rock stable. This wasn't a laptop suspend/resume problem, this is a K6/233 running various services (nothing too stressful). gdb-k and dmesg follow. Sorry this kernel wasn't build originally with -g, I'm going to rectify that for next time: IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x0051b000 initial pcb at physical address 0x004489e0 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x70 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc01ed094 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc03f191c frame pointer = 0x10:0xc03f1940 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = net tty bio cam trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 11 giving up on 11 buffers Uptime: 11h58m51s dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 393216 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 1 1 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 0xc01ea29e in dumpsys () (kgdb) bt #0 0xc01ea29e in dumpsys () #1 0xc01ea06f in boot () #2 0xc01ea494 in poweroff_wait () #3 0xc036d9e6 in trap_fatal () #4 0xc036d6b9 in trap_pfault () #5 0xc036d277 in trap () #6 0xc01ed094 in tsleep () #7 0xc016820c in ata_command () #8 0xc0166d67 in ata_getparam () #9 0xc0167a2e in ata_reinit () #10 0xc016f9d2 in ad_timeout () #11 0xc01eff01 in softclock () Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. 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FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #0: Wed Mar 20 17:15:37 PST 2002 lamont@warez.scriptkiddie.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/WAREZ Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions (233.22-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x562 Stepping = 2 Features=0x8001bf AMD Features=0x400<> real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 60239872 (58828K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc04fc000. md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x6300-0x631f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip1: port 0x5f00-0x5f0f at device 7.3 on pci0 pci0: at 9.0 fxp0: port 0x6500-0x653f mem 0xe1000000-0xe10fffff,0xe1202000-0xe1202fff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:6c:21:22 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: port 0x6600-0x663f mem 0xe1100000-0xe11fffff,0xe1201000-0xe1201fff irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:2e:ae:ae inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto orm0:

Hi, I just upgraded to FreeBSD 4.5 and figured out = how to finally get rid of S/Key Passwd: when I try to login through ssh.=A0 But what the hell was that?=A0 I don’t know that password = or anything.

------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C1D453.D9D89B30-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 21:24:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.isg.siue.edu (mail.isg.siue.edu [146.163.5.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7EC37B41C for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:24:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from WEBSHIELD2.isg.siue.edu (webshield2.isg.siue.edu [146.163.5.150]) by mail.isg.siue.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA10284 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:24:36 -0600 (CST) Received: FROM mail.isg.siue.edu BY WEBSHIELD2.isg.siue.edu ; Mon Mar 25 23:24:35 2002 -0600 Received: from zeus (student142-218.bh.siue.edu [146.163.142.218]) by mail.isg.siue.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA10183 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:24:30 -0600 (CST) From: "William Michael Grim" To: Subject: S/Key Password? Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:24:39 -0600 Message-ID: <001c01c1d486$870d5a70$da8ea392@zeus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just upgraded to FreeBSD 4.5 and figured out how to finally get rid of S/Key Passwd: when I try to login through ssh. But what the hell was that? I don=92t know that password or anything. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 21:27:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F95137B41E for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 4.00) id 16pjUM-000Krw-00; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:27:18 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: getting around an address-leaking natted application Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:27:18 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well-traveled laptop with wi0 802.11b pc card running freebsd 4.5-stable vmware under it win98se under that and i am communicating to it from a palm pilot with 802.11b netgraph will not work with the wi pc card, so i have to use ipfw and natd hacks to make the win98 vmware client visible on the net. e.g. ipfw.rules flush add divert natd all from any to any via wi0 add pass all from any to any natd.conf dynamic yes unregistered_only yes interface wi0 # so the win98 vmware client can be browsed redirect_port tcp 192.168.254.2:137-139 137-139 redirect_port udp 192.168.254.2:137-139 137-139 # so the palm 802.11 hot-sync works redirect_port udp 192.168.254.2:14237-14239 14237-14239 redirect_port tcp 192.168.254.2:14237-14239 14237-14239 this actually works (thanks to Bob K for some pointers and finding a stupid bug) with one problem. the palm hot-sync on the win98 client seems to embed what it thinks is its ip address, 192.168.254.2, within some data packet or another. so, to make it work, i had to go to my lan's default router and add ip route 192.168.254.0 255.255.255.0 as this is a well-traveled laptop, i don't want to count on a hack to the local default router. it's a pretty grotty hack anyway. i am looking for other bright ideas. some mediocre ones that have occurred to me o hack proxy arp on the laptop. but in many many years on net, i have abjured proxy arp. if i have to do this, what is the recommended tool/hack? but a tcpdump did not show the puppy arping to find the natted 192.168. this makes sense, as why should it arp when it knows that the target can not be on the interface and needs to be routed? o don't let the palm pilot dhcp, and hand configure it every time and place to point to the laptop's public address for its default route. awfully inconvenient. surely i am missing something obvious and not too disgusting here. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 21:34: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.dvfootage.com (dvfootage.com [216.228.5.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975E737B400 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from atrustrivalie.org (pm3-155.corp.redshift.com [216.228.4.155]) by www.dvfootage.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963D3A8A2; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:34:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3CA0084E.1030606@atrustrivalie.org> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:34:06 -0800 From: Yann Ramin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020208 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Michael Grim Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: S/Key Password? References: <001c01c1d486$870d5a70$da8ea392@zeus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG S/Key is a one-time password scheme. Do a 'man skey' for more info. I'm not sure why its been default enabled in pam.conf, but I'm the wrong person to talk to for that :) Yann William Michael Grim wrote: >Hi, I just upgraded to FreeBSD 4.5 and figured out how to finally get >rid of S/Key Passwd: when I try to login through ssh. But what the hell >was that? I don't know that password or anything. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 21:44:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.isg.siue.edu (mail.isg.siue.edu [146.163.5.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A64237B416 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from WEBSHIELD2.isg.siue.edu (webshield2.isg.siue.edu [146.163.5.150]) by mail.isg.siue.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA21292 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:44:11 -0600 (CST) Received: FROM mail.isg.siue.edu BY WEBSHIELD2.isg.siue.edu ; Mon Mar 25 23:44:11 2002 -0600 Received: from zeus (student142-218.bh.siue.edu [146.163.142.218]) by mail.isg.siue.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA21201; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:44:05 -0600 (CST) From: "William Michael Grim" To: "'Yann Ramin'" Cc: Subject: RE: S/Key Password? Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:44:14 -0600 Message-ID: <001d01c1d489$4375b480$da8ea392@zeus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 In-Reply-To: <3CA0084E.1030606@atrustrivalie.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, "man skey" really helped me out. I now think I understand the possible usefulness of it. Do you happen to know if that thing is Kerberos related? Thanks, Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Yann Ramin Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:34 PM To: William Michael Grim Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: S/Key Password? S/Key is a one-time password scheme. Do a 'man skey' for more info. I'm not sure why its been default enabled in pam.conf, but I'm the wrong person to talk to for that :) Yann William Michael Grim wrote: >Hi, I just upgraded to FreeBSD 4.5 and figured out how to finally get >rid of S/Key Passwd: when I try to login through ssh. But what the hell >was that? I don't know that password or anything. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 22:36:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.isg.siue.edu (mail.isg.siue.edu [146.163.5.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC1737B417 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from WEBSHIELD1.isg.siue.edu (webshield1.isg.siue.edu [146.163.5.149]) by mail.isg.siue.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA22814 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 00:36:15 -0600 (CST) Received: FROM mail.isg.siue.edu BY WEBSHIELD1.isg.siue.edu ; Tue Mar 26 00:36:15 2002 -0600 Received: from zeus (student142-218.bh.siue.edu [146.163.142.218]) by mail.isg.siue.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA22785 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 00:36:09 -0600 (CST) From: "William Michael Grim" To: Subject: Logging in (fortune cookie) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 00:36:18 -0600 Message-ID: <001e01c1d490$8940f7c0$da8ea392@zeus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1D45E.3EA687C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1D45E.3EA687C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to give thanks to whoever decided to make fortune cookies default in FreeBSD 4.5. Those little tips are teaching me a few things I didn=92t know. =20 Thanks, Mike ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1D45E.3EA687C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I would like to give thanks to whoever decided to = make fortune cookies default in FreeBSD 4.5.=A0 Those little tips are teaching me a few things I didn’t = know.

 

Thanks,

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------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1D45E.3EA687C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 25 23:58:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D533C37B416; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:58:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2Q7wOGd015308 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:58:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2Q7wODq015305; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:58:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15520.10783.995435.407285@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:58:23 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: For review: Revised sendmail startup settings X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG An issue came up on freebsd-stable today regarding the boot-time startup of sendmail for users who are using other MTAs. The end result was that users needed a way to completely prevent sendmail from trying to start at boot time. The current order of operations at boot time is: # MTA if ${sendmail_enable} == YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_flags} else if ${sendmail_outbound_enable} == YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_outbound_flags} if ${sendmail_submit_enable} == YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_submit_flags} endif # MSP Queue Runner if [ -r /etc/mail/submit.cf] && ${sendmail_msp_queue_enable} == YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_msp_queue_flags} endif A few solutions were discussed and the patch represents what I feel to be the best solution. Instead of rc.conf's sendmail_enable only accepting YES or NO, it can now also accept NONE. If set to NONE, none of the other sendmail related startup items will be done. While creating the patch, I found an extra queue running daemon might be started that wasn't necessary (it didn't hurt anything but it wasn't needed). That has been fixed in the patch as well. Therefore, the new order of operations (as shown in the rc.conf man page and src/etc/defaults/rc.conf patches) is: # MTA if ${sendmail_enable} == NONE # Do nothing else if ${sendmail_enable} == YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_flags} else if ${sendmail_submit_enable} == YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_submit_flags} else if ${sendmail_outbound_enable} == YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_outbound_flags} endif # MSP Queue Runner if ${sendmail_enable} != NONE && [ -r /etc/mail/submit.cf] && ${sendmail_msp_queue_enable} == YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_msp_queue_flags} endif This will allow users to set sendmail_enable to NONE in /etc/rc.conf and completely avoid any sendmail daemons. I've also updated the /etc/mail/Makefile "start" target code to match the new order of operations and added a new set of targets for the MSP queue runner (start-mspq, stop-mspq, and restart-mspq). Unless I hear any good arguments against this change, I'll commit it in the next day or two (and MFC it a week later). The patches for the two branches are available at: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE: http://people.freebsd.org/~gshapiro/smstart-STABLE FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT: http://people.freebsd.org/~gshapiro/smstart-CURRENT Thanks go to Thomas Quinot and Christopher Schulte for their contributions to the idea and Mark Santcroos for reminding me to update /etc/mail/Makefile with the new startup routines. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 0: 4:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (fw-rl0.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B660537B405 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 00:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2Q84US98073; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:04:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <200203260804.g2Q84US98073@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: ATA still crashes on resume from suspend In-Reply-To: <20020326030429.4D60B5D04@ptavv.es.net> To: Kevin Oberman Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:04:30 +0100 (CET) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: sos@freebsd.dk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL94b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Kevin Oberman wrote: > I saw that new versions of several ATA programs including ata-all.c > had been loaded into stable. I hoped that this would fix the trap 12 > when resuming from a suspend. No luck. Ian Dowses patches worked fine, > but the code in stable still crashes. The fixes that I committed yesterday was for the vmware problems, the resume problem i not resolved yet. The patch floating around with using ATA_IMMEDIATE insted of ATA_WAIT_INTR might be the right solution, but I've not gotten so far yet... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 0:21:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E0937B405 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 00:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (relay2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3-2) with ESMTP id g2Q8LDY14095; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:21:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (hyperion.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.33]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3/7) with ESMTP id g2Q8LCv14084; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:21:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (margaux.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.72]) by hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00651; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:21:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (from stolz@localhost) by margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1-gb-2) id JAA03894; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:21:03 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:21:03 +0100 From: Volker Stolz To: Josef Karthauser , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: umass/memory stick Message-ID: <20020326092103.A3890@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20020322210053.A2969@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> <20020322210947.A59695@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020322201353.GC45972@genius.tao.org.uk> <20020324100653.A3290@margaux.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> <20020326000138.GC1269@genius.tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <20020326000138.GC1269@genius.tao.org.uk>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:01:38AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:01:38AM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > The patch applies cleanly, but the problem persists. Do I have to wibble a > > knob or something? > > No; if it doesn't work then we'll probably need a code quirk in there. Okay, I've got the quirk, and it works now, although the pattern is rather coarse: {T_DIRECT, SIP_MEDIA_REMOVABLE, "RiteLink*", "*","*"}, /*quirks*/ DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE|DA_Q_NO_SYNC_CACHE Where do I derive the second pattern from? Another thing: If the stick is connected at boot time, I get: umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT and then the port got disabled :-/ -- Wonderful \hbox (0.80312pt too nice) in paragraph at lines 16--18 Volker Stolz * stolz@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Please use PGP or S/MIME for correspondence! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 1:12:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from avalon.pptus.ru (avalon.pptus.ru [212.73.100.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA3F37B419 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 01:12:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from avalon.pptus.ru (avalon.pptus.ru [212.73.100.133]) by avalon.pptus.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C55F83C; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:12:12 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:12:12 +0300 (MSK) From: Alexei Evdokimov X-X-Sender: alexei@avalon.pptus.ru To: Andrew Heybey Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burncd can't/won't write from pipe? In-Reply-To: <200203260206.g2Q26dO00776@celis.niksun.com> Message-ID: <20020326120548.P7488-100000@avalon.pptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Andrew Heybey wrote: AH> I'm trying 4.5-RELEASE plus Soren's patches for the new ata driver and AH> burncd. I just got a CD-RW drive, so I don't know if this used to AH> work or not. AH> AH> The following does not work: AH> AH> mkisofs -R | burncd -s 8 data - fixate AH> AH> mkisofs exits fairly quickly without any error messages that I saw (it AH> did print some messages to stderr about files names that it was AH> using). AH> AH> burncd prints: AH> AH> next writeable LBA 0 AH> writing from stdin AH> AH> fixating CD, please wait.. AH> AH> and then sits there for a long time, with no activity from the CD-RW. AH> I can Ctrl-C out of it. AH> AH> If I do the steps separately, everything works fine: AH> AH> mkisofs -R > ~/dir.iso AH> burncd -s 8 data ~/dir.iso fixate AH> AH> Am I doing something dumb? What am I missing? It doesn't write from pipe on STABLE too. PR 36299. -- Alexei Evdokimov alexei@mhost.eu.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 1:27:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.itxmarket.com (fw.itxmarket.com [213.11.40.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B506937B41B for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 01:27:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mich.itxmarket.com (mich.itxmarket.com [192.168.2.27]) by mail2.itxmarket.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FCD37C90 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:26:58 +0100 (CET) Received: by mich.itxmarket.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 10F49139F5E; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:26:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:26:56 +0100 From: Michael Hostbaek To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newsyslog.conf - sudden error Message-ID: <20020326092656.GA515@mich.itxmarket.com> References: <20020325102339.GC529@mich.itxmarket.com> <20020325161817.C84226@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020325161817.C84226@blossom.cjclark.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 X-PGP-Key: http://www.freebsdcluster.org/~mich/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Crist J. Clark (cjc) writes: > That error message means it's having trouble reading the "$W0D2." But > I believe that is valid syntax. I can't see any recent changes to > newsyslog(8) that might be making problems. > > Is there something special about that time? There wasn't some kind of > DST-Standard time switch in the local timezone, was there (kind of > early in the year for that)? Well, the one box that do work (4.4-STABLE) is located in the UK (hence another timezone -1) - whereas the other boxes are located in Italy and France. Could that be the problem ? Thanks. -- Best Regards, Michael Landin Hostbaek FreeBSDCluster.org - an International Community */ PGP-key available upon request /* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 3:49:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.lanworks.de (www.lanworks.de [194.77.154.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7F637B419 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 03:49:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (apparently) from there ([192.168.100.212]) by www.lanworks.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:57:30 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Bjoern Engels Organization: LANWORKS AG To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: One more serious ATA crash Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:47:26 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <01c653057111a32WEB@www.lanworks.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi After cvsupping 4.5-STABLE yesterday my system didn't boot anymore. The ATA-mirror was defective and couldn't be rebuilt. I reinstalled the machine, cvsupped again and the same thing happened again. Booting the old kernel doesn't help either, the new ATA drivers seem to have crashed the disk. Here are the error messages (I had to type them down, so it's only the relevant things, I hope it's enough information.) [...] atapci0: port ... on pci0 ata0: at [...] on atapci0 ata1: at [...] on atapci0 [...] atapci1: [...] on pci0 ata2: at [...] on atapci1 ata3: at [...] on atapci1 [...] ata1-slave: timeout waiting for interrupt ata1-slave: ATAPI identify failed stray irq 7 ar0: 58610MB [7471/255/63] status READY subdisks: 0 READY ad4: 58610MB [119081/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA= 100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ar0s1a ad4: READ command timeout tag=3D0 serv=3D0 - resetting ata2: resetting devices .. ad4: removed from configuration ar0: ERROR - array broken ad4: deleted from ar0 disk0 ar0: ERROR - array broken done ar0: reading primary partition table: error reading fsbn 0 Root mount failed: 5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 4:46:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl2.sentex.ca (vinyl2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB7F37B419; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 04:46:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from house.sentex.net (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) (authenticated) by vinyl2.sentex.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QCk7973341 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:46:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020326071236.033c00d0@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:44:09 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: stable breaks HighPoint support In-Reply-To: <01c653057111a32WEB@www.lanworks.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It looks like something in stable seem to break High Point 404 support using the vendor's drivers and RAID administrator software. http://www.highpoint-tech.com/rr404_down.htm raidtest2# gdb -k kernel.debug vmcore.0 GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... SMP 2 cpus IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x004d3000 initial pcb at physical address 0x00412b80 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc1e101ec stack pointer = 0x10:0xd2d44da4 frame pointer = 0x10:0xd2d44da8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 165 (hptsvr) interrupt mask = none <- SMP: XXX trap number = 12 panic: page fault mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 boot() called on cpu#1 syncing disks... 17 done Uptime: 3m51s twed0: detached dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 647192 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 383 382 381 380 379 378 377 376 375 374 373 372 371 370 369 368 367 366 365 364 363 362 361 360 359 358 357 356 355 354 353 352 351 350 349 348 347 346 345 344 343 342 341 340 339 338 337 336 335 334 333 332 331 330 329 328 327 326 325 324 323 322 321 320 319 318 317 316 315 314 313 312 311 310 309 308 307 306 305 304 303 302 301 300 299 298 297 296 295 294 293 292 291 290 289 288 287 286 285 284 283 282 281 280 279 278 277 276 275 274 273 272 271 270 269 268 267 266 265 264 263 262 261 260 259 258 257 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 242 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 --- #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 487 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) bt #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 #1 0xc01d833c in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316 #2 0xc01d87a4 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc03b8d79, howto=-1069840305) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 #3 0xc034b1f5 in trap_fatal (frame=0xd2d44d64, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:966 #4 0xc034ae6d in trap_pfault (frame=0xd2d44d64, usermode=0, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:859 #5 0xc034a9cb in trap (frame={tf_fs = -797835240, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -757838092, tf_esi = 2, tf_ebp = -757838424, tf_isp = -757838448, tf_ebx = -757838228, tf_edx = -1042194560, tf_ecx = 4, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1042218516, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66178, tf_esp = 0, tf_ss = -757838384}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:458 #6 0xc1e101ec in ?? () #7 0xc1e0fbb7 in ?? () #8 0xc1e05066 in ?? () #9 0xc1e05a61 in ?? () #10 0xc01dd3e8 in sysctl_root (oidp=0x0, arg1=0xd2d44ef4, arg2=2, req=0xd2d44e6c) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_sysctl.c:1041 #11 0xc01dd5a1 in userland_sysctl (p=0xd0727d40, name=0xd2d44ef4, namelen=2, old=0x0, oldlenp=0x0, inkernel=0, new=0xbfadcccc, newlen=28, retval=0xd2d44ef0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_sysctl.c:1134 #12 0xc01dd457 in __sysctl (p=0xd0727d40, uap=0xd2d44f80) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_sysctl.c:1070 #13 0xc034b539 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = -1079129004, tf_esi = -1079128884, tf_ebp = -1079129076, tf_isp = -757837868, tf_ebx = 672168644, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 202, tf_trapno = 22, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 671794456, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 643, tf_esp = -1079129136, tf_ss = 47}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1167 #14 0xc0335a6b in Xint0x80_syscall () cannot read proc at 0 (kgdb) up #1 0xc01d833c in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316 316 dumpsys(); (kgdb) up #2 0xc01d87a4 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc03b8d79, howto=-1069840305) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 595 boot(bootopt); (kgdb) up #3 0xc034b1f5 in trap_fatal (frame=0xd2d44d64, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:966 966 panic("%s", trap_msg[type]); (kgdb) up #4 0xc034ae6d in trap_pfault (frame=0xd2d44d64, usermode=0, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:859 859 trap_fatal(frame, eva); (kgdb) up #5 0xc034a9cb in trap (frame={tf_fs = -797835240, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -757838092, tf_esi = 2, tf_ebp = -757838424, tf_isp = -757838448, tf_ebx = -757838228, tf_edx = -1042194560, tf_ecx = 4, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1042218516, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66178, tf_esp = 0, tf_ss = -757838384}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:458 458 (void) trap_pfault(&frame, FALSE, eva); (kgdb) up #6 0xc1e101ec in ?? () (kgdb) up #7 0xc1e0fbb7 in ?? () (kgdb) up #8 0xc1e05066 in ?? () (kgdb) up #9 0xc1e05a61 in ?? () (kgdb) up #10 0xc01dd3e8 in sysctl_root (oidp=0x0, arg1=0xd2d44ef4, arg2=2, req=0xd2d44e6c) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_sysctl.c:1041 1041 error = oid->oid_handler(oid, oid->oid_arg1, oid->oid_arg2, (kgdb) up #11 0xc01dd5a1 in userland_sysctl (p=0xd0727d40, name=0xd2d44ef4, namelen=2, old=0x0, oldlenp=0x0, inkernel=0, new=0xbfadcccc, newlen=28, retval=0xd2d44ef0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_sysctl.c:1134 1134 error = sysctl_root(0, name, namelen, &req2); (kgdb) up #12 0xc01dd457 in __sysctl (p=0xd0727d40, uap=0xd2d44f80) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_sysctl.c:1070 1070 error = userland_sysctl(p, name, uap->namelen, (kgdb) up #13 0xc034b539 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = -1079129004, tf_esi = -1079128884, tf_ebp = -1079129076, tf_isp = -757837868, tf_ebx = 672168644, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 202, tf_trapno = 22, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 671794456, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 643, tf_esp = -1079129136, tf_ss = 47}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1167 1167 error = (*callp->sy_call)(p, args); (kgdb) up #14 0xc0335a6b in Xint0x80_syscall () (kgdb) up cannot read proc at 0 (kgdb) raidtest2# kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 2 0xc0100000 3b23cc kernel 2 1 0xc1e63000 1e000 hpt374.ko raidtest2# sysctl hpt374.status hpt374.status: Device Driver for HPT374 UDMA/ATA133 RAID Controller Driver Version 1.0 Physical device list Controller/Bus/ID Model Capacity Status Array ------------------------------------------------------------------- Logical device list No. Type Name Capacity Status OsDisk ------------------------------------------------------------------------- raidtest2# ad0: 19541MB [39703/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 ad8: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata4-master UDMA100 ad10: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata5-master UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master PIO4 ad8 and ad10 are the ones on the controller. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 4:46:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from CC40670-a.groni1.gr.nl.home.com (cc40670-a.groni1.gr.nl.home.com [217.120.131.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA7437B41C for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 04:46:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jochem@localhost) by CC40670-a.groni1.gr.nl.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2IGvP721778; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:57:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jochem) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:57:24 +0100 From: Jochem Kossen To: Soren Schmidt Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MFC of ATA driver from -current finished, please test.. Message-ID: <20020318165724.GA21743@jochem.dyndns.org> Mail-Followup-To: Soren Schmidt , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200203180844.g2I8iwb15941@freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200203180844.g2I8iwb15941@freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 09:44:58AM +0100, S?ren Schmidt wrote: > > Well, subject says it all, the ATA driver in -stable is now functionally > identical to that in -current. > Please let me know asap if you encounter any (new) problems with the > ATA driver after this commit. > > Thanks goes to all that have helped testing this over the last weeks, > and especially to Advanis for sponsoring this important work. > Here are my results for burncd... The -d (DAO) option caused each track to begin while the time of the previous track hadn't even finished. So, for example, when you start playing track 3, it misses the beginning, which is at the end of track 2... The -n option didn't make any difference. Without the -d option, it burns the tracks right, but at the end of each track, a loud "tick" is heard at the *END* of each track (no, this isn't the WAV header at the beginning of the track, i use headerless WAV (raw WAV) files, and the tick is much louder than that). It did this too before the ATA MFC, so it's an old problem. I've never reported it before though. This all happens with burning headerless WAV (raw wav) files, at 4 speed. The burner can't burn at a lower speed. When using the ATAPICAM patches and cdrecord instead of burncd, the burner burns correctly. Any ideas? Thanks, Jochem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 4:50:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prg.traveller.cz (prg.traveller.cz [193.85.2.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7153137B41D for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 04:49:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from prg.traveller.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prg.traveller.cz (8.12.1[KQ-CZ](1)/8.12.1/pukvis) with ESMTP id g2QCnjS2035338 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:49:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (mime@localhost) by prg.traveller.cz (8.12.1[KQ-CZ](1)/pukvis) with ESMTP id g2QCnjM6035335 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:49:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:49:45 +0100 (CET) From: Michal Mertl To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: syslogd stopping to work Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After upgrade from 4.2-REL to 4.4-SECURITY syslogd stops logging after several days of operation. I use it to log routers and such and it's pretty important for me. I don't want to use some different syslogd unless absolutelly necessary. It has happened already several times. 'ps axO wchan' gives '49083 sbwait ?? Is 0:06.07 /usr/sbin/syslogd -a ....'. CPU usage is 0% and the daemon stays like this forever. I have built the binary with debug information and have the coredump. The backtrace (I sent the daemon ABORT signal) is: #0 0x280a7674 in recvfrom () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #1 0x280b4cb4 in res_send () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #2 0x280b7e7d in res_query () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #3 0x280b7bd3 in freehostent () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #4 0x280b5d91 in getipnodebyaddr () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #5 0x280b5494 in getnameinfo () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4 #6 0x804b4e2 in cvthname (f=0xbfbff9e0) at /data/src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c:1215 #7 0x804a18d in main (argc=9, argv=0xbfbffb8c) at /data/src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c:546 #8 0x8049745 in _start () From my reading of it it seems syslogd tries to do reverse DNS loookup (will be disabled by -n ?) and hangs in it. It's quite possible that there was interminent problem with DNS. May be the problem isn't in syslogd but in resolver. Any suggestion as to what else to check? What to do when next time I catch syslogd frozen? I installed cron script which checks the syslog state and for about 14 days it didn't happen :-(. -- Michal Mertl mime@traveller.cz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 5:21:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (fw-rl0.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A2837B41A for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 05:21:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2QDLXI58534; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:21:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <200203261321.g2QDLXI58534@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: stable breaks HighPoint support In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020326071236.033c00d0@192.168.0.12> To: Mike Tancsa Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:21:32 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: sos@freebsd.dk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL94b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Mike Tancsa wrote: > > It looks like something in stable seem to break High Point 404 support > using the vendor's drivers and RAID administrator software. > http://www.highpoint-tech.com/rr404_down.htm Highpoint's driver are for FreeBSD-4.5. They wont work with -stable and what is to become 4.6. The bright side is you wont even need them :) -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 6:22:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D16437B400 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 06:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QEMLI75554; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:22:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020326091511.050e85f0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:16:32 -0500 To: sos@freebsd.dk From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: stable breaks HighPoint support Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200203261321.g2QDLXI58534@freebsd.dk> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020326071236.033c00d0@192.168.0.12> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:21 PM 3/26/02 +0100, S=F8ren Schmidt wrote: >It seems Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > > It looks like something in stable seem to break High Point 404 support > > using the vendor's drivers and RAID administrator software. > > http://www.highpoint-tech.com/rr404_down.htm > >Highpoint's driver are for FreeBSD-4.5. > >They wont work with -stable and what is to become 4.6. > >The bright side is you wont even need them :) :-) True, but there is no equivalent RAID management software. ---Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 6:57:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sudz.ns3g.com (CPE0080c6f29e4f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.43.67.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CAA37B405 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 06:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from COOLER (CPE00e029860b4d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.42.29.172]) by sudz.ns3g.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2QF3ao74611; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:03:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sudz@ns3g.com) Reply-To: From: "Colin Legendre" To: "William Michael Grim" , "'Yann Ramin'" Cc: Subject: RE: S/Key Password? Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:02:04 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <001d01c1d489$4375b480$da8ea392@zeus> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, it is not Kerberos Related, it is a separate authentication scheme. Colin Legendre CCNP, MCP sudz@ns3g.com http://www.ns3g.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of William Michael Grim Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:44 AM To: 'Yann Ramin' Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: S/Key Password? Yes, "man skey" really helped me out. I now think I understand the possible usefulness of it. Do you happen to know if that thing is Kerberos related? Thanks, Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Yann Ramin Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:34 PM To: William Michael Grim Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: S/Key Password? S/Key is a one-time password scheme. Do a 'man skey' for more info. I'm not sure why its been default enabled in pam.conf, but I'm the wrong person to talk to for that :) Yann William Michael Grim wrote: >Hi, I just upgraded to FreeBSD 4.5 and figured out how to finally get >rid of S/Key Passwd: when I try to login through ssh. But what the hell >was that? I don't know that password or anything. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 7:33: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from arjun.niksun.com (gwnew.niksun.com [63.148.27.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D06837B417 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:32:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from celis.niksun.com (celis.niksun.com [10.1.0.48]) by arjun.niksun.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA47889 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:32:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ath@celis.niksun.com) Received: from celis (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by celis.niksun.com (8.11.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id g2QFW9O02203 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:32:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ath@celis.niksun.com) Message-Id: <200203261532.g2QFW9O02203@celis.niksun.com> From: Andrew Heybey To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: if_le crashes 4.5-RELEASE kernel: PR 25650 and PR 18641 [PATCH] Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:32:09 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When you ifconfig an "le" NIC card with an address, it makes 4.5-RELEASE crash. This problem is discussed in PRs 25650 and PR 18641, though PR 25650 is marked as "closed: fixed". Presumably, it would also panic a -CURRENT kernel though I do not currently run CURRENT. I have fixed the problem (at least it works for me) using the included patch (against RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE src/sys/i386/isa/if_le.c). I followed-up PR 18641 with the patch, and PR 25650 with a pointer to 18641. I know this hardware is ancient, but there is no particular reason to have it not work. I have tested the patch with: le0 at port 0x300-0x31f iomem 0xd0000-0xd07ff irq 5 on isa0 le0: DE205-AC ethernet address 08:00:2b:9f:39:d4 andrew Index: if_le.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/repos/fbsdcvs/src/sys/i386/isa/if_le.c,v retrieving revision 1.56.2.3 diff -u -u -r1.56.2.3 if_le.c --- if_le.c 2001/11/02 17:48:00 1.56.2.3 +++ if_le.c 2002/03/26 15:29:44 @@ -191,7 +191,6 @@ */ struct le_softc { struct arpcom le_ac; /* Common Ethernet/ARP Structure */ - void (*if_init) __P((le_softc_t *));/* Interface init routine */ void (*if_reset) __P((le_softc_t *));/* Interface reset routine */ caddr_t le_membase; /* Starting memory address (virtual) */ unsigned le_iobase; /* Starting I/O base address */ @@ -336,19 +335,23 @@ struct ifnet *ifp = &sc->le_if; dvp->id_ointr = le_intr; - ifp->if_softc = sc; - ifp->if_mtu = ETHERMTU; + printf("%s%d: %s ethernet address %6D\n", ifp->if_name, ifp->if_unit, sc->le_prodname, sc->le_ac.ac_enaddr, ":"); + ifp->if_softc = sc; + ifp->if_mtu = ETHERMTU; ifp->if_flags = IFF_BROADCAST | IFF_SIMPLEX | IFF_MULTICAST; + ifp->if_timer = 0; ifp->if_output = ether_output; ifp->if_ioctl = le_ioctl; + ifp->if_watchdog = 0; ifp->if_type = IFT_ETHER; - ifp->if_addrlen = 6; - ifp->if_hdrlen = 14; + ifp->if_addrlen = ETHER_ADDR_LEN; + ifp->if_hdrlen = ETHER_HDR_LEN; + ifp->if_snd.ifq_maxlen = IFQ_MAXLEN; ether_ifattach(ifp, ETHER_BPF_SUPPORTED); @@ -446,7 +449,7 @@ break; case SIOCSIFFLAGS: { - sc->if_init(sc); + sc->le_if.if_init(sc); break; } @@ -455,7 +458,7 @@ /* * Update multicast listeners */ - sc->if_init(sc); + sc->le_if.if_init(sc); error = 0; break; @@ -613,7 +616,7 @@ #define LEMAC_32K_MODE(mbase) (((mbase) >= 0x14) && ((mbase) <= 0x1F)) #define LEMAC_2K_MODE(mbase) ( (mbase) >= 0x40) -static void lemac_init(le_softc_t *sc); +static void lemac_init(void *xsc); static void lemac_start(struct ifnet *ifp); static void lemac_reset(le_softc_t *sc); static void lemac_intr(le_softc_t *sc); @@ -688,7 +691,7 @@ /* * Try to reset the unit */ - sc->if_init = lemac_init; + sc->le_if.if_init = lemac_init; sc->le_if.if_start = lemac_start; sc->if_reset = lemac_reset; sc->lemac_memmode = 2; @@ -778,8 +781,9 @@ static void lemac_init( - le_softc_t *sc) + void *xsc) { + le_softc_t *sc = (le_softc_t *)xsc; int s; if ((sc->le_flags & IFF_UP) == 0) @@ -1138,7 +1142,7 @@ static int lance_init_ring(le_softc_t *sc, ln_ring_t *rp, lance_ring_t *ri, unsigned ndescs, unsigned bufoffset, unsigned descoffset); -static void lance_init(le_softc_t *sc); +static void lance_init(void *xsc); static void lance_reset(le_softc_t *sc); static void lance_intr(le_softc_t *sc); static int lance_rx_intr(le_softc_t *sc); @@ -1360,7 +1364,7 @@ return 0; sc->if_reset = lance_reset; - sc->if_init = lance_init; + sc->le_if.if_init = lance_init; sc->le_if.if_start = lance_start; DEPCA_WRNICSR(sc, DEPCA_NICSR_SHE | DEPCA_NICSR_ENABINTR); sc->if_reset(sc); @@ -1580,8 +1584,9 @@ static void lance_init( - le_softc_t *sc) + void *xsc) { + le_softc_t *sc = (le_softc_t *)xsc; lance_ring_t *ri; lance_descinfo_t *di; ln_desc_t desc; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 7:34:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0221537B416 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B1EA1F for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 08:34:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E894EB for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 08:34:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id HAA28161 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:34:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203261534.HAA28161@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: USB double panic Reply-To: Darryl Okahata Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Tue_Mar_26_07:34:09_2002-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:34:10 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Multipart_Tue_Mar_26_07:34:09_2002-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII FYI, I sent this yesterday to the usb-bsd list, thinking that this was an USB problem. However, with all of the ATA issues, I'm not so sure. The first panic is from USB, and the second appears to be in softupdates. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. --Multipart_Tue_Mar_26_07:34:09_2002-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 To: usb-bsd@yahoogroups.com Subject: USB double panic Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 18:40:41 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata FYI (sigh), If anyone's interested, I just got a double panic when attaching an usb hard disk. It appears that something's trashing memory (below, note the "(null)" in the dmesg where a device name should be), but I really don't know. Gory details attached. A contributing factor may have been that I was slow in plugging in the USB cable into the USB hard drive (contact may have been made/broken/make/broken quickly once or twice as I was fumbling to connect the cable); note the BBB transfer errors before the crash. [ Out of curiosity, does usb have any kind of "debounce" delay when a connection is made? ] This is from FreeBSD-STABLE, cvsup'd as of Sunday, March 24, around 3AM PST. Local kernel changes are only: * DA_Q_NO_6_BYTE quirk entry in "da_quirk_table" for USB hard disk. * Ian Dowse's recent patch to fix laptop panic upon resume: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=832933+0+archive/2002/fre= ebsd-stable/20020324.freebsd-stable This is running on an old Dell Inspriron 7500 laptop. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. ############################################################################### GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x00427000 initial pcb at physical address 0x00374640 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x30 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02675b1 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0325b78 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0325b94 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = bio trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x30 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0243d38 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc03259a0 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc03259a8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = bio trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 2h16m10s dumping to dev #ad/0x30001, offset 782464 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 --- #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 487 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) set height 0 (kgdb) where #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 #1 0xc01776c3 in boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:316 #2 0xc0177b01 in panic (fmt=0xc031ca6c "%s") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 #3 0xc02c77d3 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc0325960, eva=48) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:966 #4 0xc02c7481 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc0325960, usermode=0, eva=48) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:859 #5 0xc02c6ffb in trap (frame={tf_fs = -1072103408, tf_es = 6815760, tf_ds = -1070465008, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = -1056419840, tf_ebp = -1070442072, tf_isp = -1070442100, tf_ebx = -1070349412, tf_edx = 6864992, tf_ecx = -923158656, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071366856, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054, tf_esp = -1056419840, tf_ss = -1056419840}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:458 #6 0xc0243d38 in acquire_lock (lk=0xc033c39c) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:266 #7 0xc0247e38 in softdep_update_inodeblock (ip=0xc1085000, bp=0xc3888a10, waitfor=0) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:3813 #8 0xc0242e6d in ffs_update (vp=0xc8f9b780, waitfor=0) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_inode.c:106 #9 0xc024b2aa in ffs_sync (mp=0xc101f800, waitfor=2, cred=0xc0b33880, p=0xc038efa0) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1022 #10 0xc01a71db in sync (p=0xc038efa0, uap=0x0) at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:569 #11 0xc017745e in boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:235 #12 0xc0177b01 in panic (fmt=0xc031ca6c "%s") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 #13 0xc02c77d3 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc0325b38, eva=48) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:966 #14 0xc02c7481 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc0325b38, usermode=0, eva=48) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:859 #15 0xc02c6ffb in trap (frame={tf_fs = 16, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -1055193600, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -1070441580, tf_isp = -1070441628, tf_ebx = -1055193600, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = -1055193600, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071221327, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = -1055193600, tf_ss = 9}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:458 #16 0xc02675b1 in usbd_transfer (xfer=0xc11b0600) at ../../dev/usb/usbdi.c:285 #17 0xc0270807 in umass_setup_ctrl_transfer (sc=0xc10a5a00, udev=0xc119a9c0, req=0xc10a5a76, buffer=0x0, buflen=0, flags=0, xfer=0xc11b0600) at ../../dev/usb/umass.c:1061 #18 0xc0270879 in umass_clear_endpoint_stall (sc=0xc10a5a00, endpt=1, pipe=0xc11b0880, state=9, xfer=0xc11b0600) at ../../dev/usb/umass.c:1094 #19 0xc0270ec1 in umass_bbb_state (xfer=0xc11ba880, priv=0xc10a5a00, err=USBD_IOERROR) at ../../dev/usb/umass.c:1530 #20 0xc0267d2f in usb_transfer_complete (xfer=0xc11ba880) at ../../dev/usb/usbdi.c:839 #21 0xc0264b47 in uhci_idone (ii=0xc10f67e0) at ../../dev/usb/uhci.c:1159 #22 0xc0264a20 in uhci_check_intr (sc=0xc0fb0000, ii=0xc10f67e0) at ../../dev/usb/uhci.c:1053 #23 0xc026498b in uhci_intr (arg=0xc0fb0000) at ../../dev/usb/uhci.c:990 #24 0xc02d34a5 in intr_mux (arg=0xc0b2c700) at ../../i386/isa/intr_machdep.c:582 (kgdb) f 16 #16 0xc02675b1 in usbd_transfer (xfer=0xc11b0600) at ../../dev/usb/usbdi.c:285 285 err = pipe->methods->transfer(xfer); (kgdb) p pipe $1 = 0x0 (kgdb) p *xfer $2 = {pipe = 0x0, priv = 0xc10a5a00, buffer = 0x0, length = 0, actlen = 0, flags = 0, timeout = 5000, status = USBD_NOT_STARTED, callback = 0xc0270a68 , done = 0 '\000', request = { bmRequestType = 2 '\002', bRequest = 1 '\001', wValue = "\000", wIndex = "\001", wLength = "\000"}, frlengths = 0x0, nframes = 0, device = 0xc0fad100, dmabuf = 0x0, rqflags = 1, next = { stqe_next = 0xc11ba880}, hcpriv = 0x0, hcprivint = 0, timo_handle = { callout = 0x0}} (kgdb) up #17 0xc0270807 in umass_setup_ctrl_transfer (sc=0xc10a5a00, udev=0xc119a9c0, req=0xc10a5a76, buffer=0x0, buflen=0, flags=0, xfer=0xc11b0600) at ../../dev/usb/umass.c:1061 1061 err = usbd_transfer(xfer); (kgdb) p udev $3 = 0xc119a9c0 (kgdb) p *udev $4 = {bus = 0xc119ae80, default_pipe = 0x0, address = 153 '\231', config = 212 'Ô', depth = 10 '\n', lowspeed = 193 'Á', self_powered = 0 '\000', power = 0, langid = -11104, cookie = {cookie = 0}, powersrc = 0xc0b2ce60, def_ep = {edesc = 0x0, refcnt = -1057292288}, def_ep_desc = {bLength = 0 '\000', bDescriptorType = 126 '~', bEndpointAddress = 251 'û', bmAttributes = 192 'À', wMaxPacketSize = "\000?", bInterval = 20 '\024'}, ifaces = 0xc1143f00, ddesc = {bLength = 0 '\000', bDescriptorType = 0 '\000', bcdUSB = "\000", bDeviceClass = 112 'p', bDeviceSubClass = 100 'd', bDeviceProtocol = 15 '\017', bMaxPacketSize = 193 'Á', idVendor = "¸ü", idProduct = "\205Ã", bcdDevice = "\000", iManufacturer = 0 '\000', iProduct = 0 '\000', iSerialNumber = 192 'À', bNumConfigurations = 100 'd'}, cdesc = 0xc117bb38, quirks = 0xd000a, hub = 0x0, subdevs = 0xc114c23c} (kgdb) up #18 0xc0270879 in umass_clear_endpoint_stall (sc=0xc10a5a00, endpt=1, pipe=0xc11b0880, state=9, xfer=0xc11b0600) at ../../dev/usb/umass.c:1094 1094 umass_setup_ctrl_transfer(sc, udev, &sc->request, NULL, 0, 0, xfer); (kgdb) p *sc $5 = {sc_dev = 0xc106b300, sc_udev = 0xc11b0c80, flags = 1 '\001', drive = 1 '\001', quirks = 1 '\001', proto = 257, iface = 0xc119a880, ifaceno = 0, bulkin = 130 '\202', bulkout = 1 '\001', intrin = 0 '\000', bulkin_pipe = 0xc11b0e80, bulkout_pipe = 0xc11b0880, intrin_pipe = 0x0, reset = 0xc02708a8 , transfer = 0xc0270918 , state = 0xc0270a68 , transform = 0xc0271ba8 , cbw = { dCBWSignature = "USBC", dCBWTag = "\005\000\000", dCBWDataTransferLength = "$\000\000", bCBWFlags = 128 '\200', bCBWLUN = 0 '\000', bCDBLength = 6 '\006', CBWCDB = "\022\000\000\000$\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000"}, csw = {dCSWSignature = "\000\000\000", dCSWTag = "\000\000\000", dCSWDataResidue = "\000\000\000", bCSWStatus = 0 '\000'}, cbl = '\000' , sbl = {common = {type = 0 '\000', value = 0 '\000'}, ufi = {asc = 0 '\000', ascq = 0 '\000'}}, request = { bmRequestType = 2 '\002', bRequest = 1 '\001', wValue = "\000", wIndex = "\001", wLength = "\000"}, transfer_xfer = {0xc0fb7e00, 0xc11b0800, 0xc10b2600, 0xc11c5700, 0xc10c3d00, 0xc11ba780, 0xc11b0680, 0xc11ba880, 0xc11b0600}, transfer_dir = 1, transfer_data = 0xc119ba84, transfer_datalen = 36, transfer_actlen = 0, transfer_cb = 0xc0271a00 , transfer_priv = 0xc11b3c00, transfer_status = 3, transfer_state = 9, cam_scsi_command = '\000' , cam_scsi_sense = { opcode = 3 '\003', byte2 = 0 '\000', unused = "\000", length = 0 '\000', control = 0 '\000'}, transfer_speed = 650, maxlun = 0} (kgdb) p sc->iface $6 = 0xc119a880 (kgdb) p *sc->iface $7 = {device = 0xc119a9c0, idesc = 0xc10ad489, index = 0, altindex = 0, endpoints = 0xc119a9c0, priv = 0x0, pipes = {lh_first = 0x0}} (kgdb) p udev $8 = 0xc119a9c0 (kgdb) p *udev $9 = {bus = 0xc119ae80, default_pipe = 0x0, address = 153 '\231', config = 212 'Ô', depth = 10 '\n', lowspeed = 193 'Á', self_powered = 0 '\000', power = 0, langid = -11104, cookie = {cookie = 0}, powersrc = 0xc0b2ce60, def_ep = {edesc = 0x0, refcnt = -1057292288}, def_ep_desc = {bLength = 0 '\000', bDescriptorType = 126 '~', bEndpointAddress = 251 'û', bmAttributes = 192 'À', wMaxPacketSize = "\000?", bInterval = 20 '\024'}, ifaces = 0xc1143f00, ddesc = {bLength = 0 '\000', bDescriptorType = 0 '\000', bcdUSB = "\000", bDeviceClass = 112 'p', bDeviceSubClass = 100 'd', bDeviceProtocol = 15 '\017', bMaxPacketSize = 193 'Á', idVendor = "¸ü", idProduct = "\205Ã", bcdDevice = "\000", iManufacturer = 0 '\000', iProduct = 0 '\000', iSerialNumber = 192 'À', bNumConfigurations = 100 'd'}, cdesc = 0xc117bb38, quirks = 0xd000a, hub = 0x0, subdevs = 0xc114c23c} (kgdb) p sc->request $10 = {bmRequestType = 2 '\002', bRequest = 1 '\001', wValue = "\000", wIndex = "\001", wLength = "\000"} (kgdb) quit ############################################################################### # dmesg ############################################################################### Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. 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FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #1: Mon Mar 25 13:46:26 PST 2002 darrylo@zotz:/misc/usr/src/sys/compile/zotz Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (466.67-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x66a Stepping = 10 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory = 126435328 (123472K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0408000. module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (vesa, c02d7cd8, 0) error 6 Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00fdf50 apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 pci_cfgintr_linked: linked (60) to hard-routed irq 11 pci_cfgintr: 0:4 INTA routed to irq 11 pcic0: mem 0x44000000-0x44000fff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci0 pcic0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][pwr save][FUNC pci int + CSC serial isa irq] pccard0: on pcic0 pci_cfgintr_linked: linked (60) to hard-routed irq 11 pci_cfgintr: 0:4 INTA routed to irq 11 pcic1: mem 0x44001000-0x44001fff irq 11 at device 4.1 on pci0 pcic1: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][pwr save][FUNC pci int + CSC serial isa irq] pccard1: on pcic1 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1050-0x105f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x1060-0x107f irq 5 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip1: port 0x1040-0x104f at device 7.3 on pci0 pcm0: port 0x1400-0x14ff irq 5 at device 8.0 on pci0 orm0:

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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1D4C1.A5737B30-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 12:46:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw3a.lmco.com (mailgw3a.lmco.com [192.35.35.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07A337B419; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:46:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from emss04g01.ems.lmco.com ([166.17.13.122]) by mailgw3a.lmco.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QKkZn27338; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:46:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #40649) id <0GTL00M01LNPPD@lmco.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:46:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from emss04i00.ems.lmco.com ([166.17.13.135]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #40649) with ESMTP id <0GTL00DT4LNMFI@lmco.com>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by emss04i00.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:45:21 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:45:14 -0500 From: "Kohler, Raymond J" Subject: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed To: "'gshapiro@freebsd.org'" Cc: "'stable@freebsd.org'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One question about this: now that we have 4 different ways to run sendmail, which do I run simply to get the output from periodic mailed correctly? That's all I use sendmail for and I'd like to keep its use to a minimum. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 12:51:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D1437B416; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2QKpWGd021917 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2QKpWic021914; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:51:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15520.57172.667705.498166@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:51:32 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: keramida@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For review: Revised sendmail startup settings In-Reply-To: <20020326201817.GB17467@hades.hell.gr> References: <15520.10783.995435.407285@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020326201817.GB17467@hades.hell.gr> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG keramida> I am not sure if duplicating the code of etc/rc in keramida> etc/mail/Makefile is something I am really happy about though. keramida> This means that anyone who wants to make changes to etc/rc should keramida> remember to update etc/mail/Makefile too. Yes, I really hope the /etc/rc.d work in -CURRENT picks up again so /etc/mail/Makefile can just call that. Alternatively, I could just go ahead and create /etc/rc.sendmail but I might get some flack for doing that. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 12:52:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2837237B400 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:52:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2QKqQGd021924 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2QKqQRH021921; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:52:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15520.57225.977350.503756@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:52:25 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: "Kohler, Raymond J" Cc: "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG raymond.j.kohler> One question about this: now that we have 4 different raymond.j.kohler> ways to run sendmail, which do I run simply to get the raymond.j.kohler> output from periodic mailed correctly? That's all I use raymond.j.kohler> sendmail for and I'd like to keep its use to a minimum. raymond.j.kohler> Thanks. Just set sendmail_enable to NO. Until the patch under review is mailed, you'll get two daemons but that will be fixed shortly. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 12:54:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proverbs.outreachnetworks.com (proverbs.outreachnetworks.com [65.196.249.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAD3F37B417 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 12:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24662 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2002 20:54:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phoncella.outreachnetworks.com) (65.196.249.11) by proverbs.outreachnetworks.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2002 20:54:35 -0000 Received: (from elh@localhost) by phoncella.outreachnetworks.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2QKroM12628 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:53:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: phoncella.outreachnetworks.com: elh set sender to elh@outreachnetworks.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:53:49 -0500 From: "Eric L. Howard" To: "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020326155349.F8122@outreachnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: "'stable@freebsd.org'" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from raymond.j.kohler@lmco.com on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 03:45:14PM -0500 X-Favorite-Scripture: Romans 8:18 X-Theocratic-Rule-Advocate: http://www.crossmovement.com X-Registered-Secret-Agent: Agent Double-Naught Seven X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.7-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At a certain time, now past, Kohler, Raymond J spake thusly: > One question about this: now that we have 4 different ways to run sendmail, > which do I run simply to get the output from periodic mailed correctly? > That's all I use sendmail for and I'd like to keep its use to a minimum. > Thanks. > You don't need to run sendmail as a daemon for this...just add an alias for root in /etc/aliases for where you want root's mail to end up...run newaliases and away you go. ~elh -- Eric L. Howard e l h @ o u t r e a c h n e t w o r k s . c o m ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.OutreachNetworks.com 313.297.9900 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Advocate of the Theocratic Rule To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 13: 7:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E65C37B405 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26109 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Mar 2002 21:08:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:08:09 +0100 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Bob Kersten Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: weird Message-ID: <20020326220808.A25907@mail.webmonster.de> References: <001801c1d500$7377c570$0200000a@bavaria> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001801c1d500$7377c570$0200000a@bavaria>; from bob@fellownet.org on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:57:20PM +0100 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer X-Work-URL: http://www.ngenn.net/ X-Work-Address: nGENn GmbH, Schloss Kransberg, D-61250 Usingen-Kransberg, Germany X-Work-Phone: +49-6081-682-304 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob Kersten(bob@fellownet.org)@2002.03.26 20:57:20 +0000: > When i try to send an e-mail to a @hotmail.com address my Outlook > Express is unable to send it through sendmail on my FreeBSD machine. > Every other address works fine, it just seems to halt when it's a > hotmail address. The daily run output also shows the following: >=20 > Checking for rejected mail hosts: > 2 hotmail.com >=20 > But i never mentioned to reject @hotmail addresses. Hotmail is > also NOT listed in my access file nor any other. What problem is > sendmail having with hotmail addresses?? this? rohrbach@WM:datasink[~]6% dnsqr a mx03.hotmail.com=20 1 mx03.hotmail.com: 50 bytes, 1+1+0+0 records, response, noerror query: 1 mx03.hotmail.com answer: mx03.hotmail.com 3600 A 64.4.55.199 rohrbach@WM:datasink[~]7% dnsqr ptr 199.55.4.64.in-addr.arpa 12 199.55.4.64.in-addr.arpa: 76 bytes, 1+1+0+0 records, response, noerror query: 12 199.55.4.64.in-addr.arpa answer: 199.55.4.64.in-addr.arpa 3600 PTR mc3.law5.hotmail.com /k --=20 > Love does not make the world go around, just up and down a bit. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 My mail is GnuPG signed -- Unsigned ones are bogus -- http://www.gnupg.org/ Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oOM4M0BPTilkv0YRAq4YAJ9GnhTtomJKLunKUCWAD+Bj/iRgkgCffq9r TgNzHP54zoIqb5zGqCOmSZc= =EybF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 13:16:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5599237B41B for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:16:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2QLGLGd022159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2QLGLop022156; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:16:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15520.58661.435800.146259@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:16:21 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: "Eric L. Howard" Cc: "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed In-Reply-To: <20020326155349.F8122@outreachnetworks.com> References: <20020326155349.F8122@outreachnetworks.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> One question about this: now that we have 4 different ways to run sendmail, >> which do I run simply to get the output from periodic mailed correctly? >> That's all I use sendmail for and I'd like to keep its use to a minimum. >> Thanks. >> elh> You don't need to run sendmail as a daemon for this...just add an elh> alias for root in /etc/aliases for where you want root's mail to end elh> up...run newaliases and away you go. With 8.12, you do need a daemon to accept the mail from the "command line" submission. See /etc/mail/README for an explanation. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 13:34:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA14937B41C for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:34:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26481 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Mar 2002 21:34:57 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:34:57 +0100 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: "Kohler, Raymond J" Cc: "'gshapiro@freebsd.org'" , "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020326223457.B25907@mail.webmonster.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from raymond.j.kohler@lmco.com on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 03:45:14PM -0500 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer X-Work-URL: http://www.ngenn.net/ X-Work-Address: nGENn GmbH, Schloss Kransberg, D-61250 Usingen-Kransberg, Germany X-Work-Phone: +49-6081-682-304 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kohler, Raymond J(raymond.j.kohler@lmco.com)@2002.03.26 15:45:14 +0000: > One question about this: now that we have 4 different ways to run sendmai= l, > which do I run simply to get the output from periodic mailed correctly? > That's all I use sendmail for and I'd like to keep its use to a minimum. > Thanks. some dumbfire binmail implementation should take it's place. mail subsystems should be available as package/port. bsd has always followed a paradigm for source code management, installation, upgrades and overall implementation issues which is straightforward, mostly uncomplicated, thus less error-prone than other *ix systems -- a paradigm not found much in the sysv-infested world of /etc directories one might nowadays call a "registry". this is a strong point in bsd systems which makes them much more valuable than other more complicated systems, IMVHO, because it gains stability, resiliency and ease of administration. the question is: why the hell are complex (or rather complicated) subsystems that often stay unused still in the base distribution? it is simply not consequent, not following the main paradigm of bsd's design, to have subsystems like sendmail or bind in the base dist, where simpler, more starightforward, client only implementations would do the job in most cases. why not put apache into the base dist? or webmin? or postgres? this would actually make sense in terms of a "more complete" base distribution, but it simply does not fit the picture we all have from bsd: being a simple, straighforward, rock-solid dist, with no "bells and whistles" (actually there are a lot, but they are well hidden), with less "chrome" than other widespread *ix dists. i don't want to spoil the image of all the committers, of all the people doing hard work, contributing to the project, but the default installation in some points just doesn't make sense to me, relative to my perception of bsd. it's mainly a philosophical thing, and i can't understand why it is done the way it is done today. we got the year 2002, where everybody is free to choose "some" free os, "some" mua, "some" you name it, but i (as a user) still stick to freebsd because i know that it is one of the finest operating systems "out there", delivering excellent performance, even under heaviest of loads, being rock-solid and thus, serving as a profound basis for internet services. and it even gets better from release to release, this is a great achievement, and i enjoy every minor version-bump. as it comes to my systems, i put together a small shell script which actually _removes_ parts of the stuff that is installed by default. there are the NO_* build options, but why aren't they used in the official release? a question should be integrated into sysinstall, that simply asks: "mua: fish or flesh?" (or whatever you may call it). i simply don't get it. still. since about 4+ years now. and counting... please, make such complex software a port/package. regards, /k --=20 > Jesus died for your sins. Make it worth his time. 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Howard" To: "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020326164022.G8122@outreachnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: "'stable@freebsd.org'" References: <20020326155349.F8122@outreachnetworks.com> <15520.58661.435800.146259@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <15520.58661.435800.146259@horsey.gshapiro.net>; from gshapiro@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:16:21PM -0800 X-Favorite-Scripture: Romans 8:18 X-Theocratic-Rule-Advocate: http://www.crossmovement.com X-Registered-Secret-Agent: Agent Double-Naught Seven X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.7-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At a certain time, now past, Gregory Neil Shapiro spake thusly: > >> One question about this: now that we have 4 different ways to run sendmail, > >> which do I run simply to get the output from periodic mailed correctly? > >> That's all I use sendmail for and I'd like to keep its use to a minimum. > >> Thanks. > >> > > elh> You don't need to run sendmail as a daemon for this...just add an > elh> alias for root in /etc/aliases for where you want root's mail to end > elh> up...run newaliases and away you go. > > With 8.12, you do need a daemon to accept the mail from the "command line" > submission. See /etc/mail/README for an explanation. Maybe I shoud have inserted a disclaimer... *I have not run sendmail for production SMTP services for 2 years...pay no attention to me!* I don't know...that seems a little wrong to me...and to explore here will probably lead us all way off-topic. Thanx for the correction. ~elh -- Eric L. Howard e l h @ o u t r e a c h n e t w o r k s . c o m ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.OutreachNetworks.com 313.297.9900 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Advocate of the Theocratic Rule To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 14: 7:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tantivy.stanford.edu (tantivy.Stanford.EDU [171.64.234.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A146937B416 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:07:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from techie@localhost) by tantivy.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA11814 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:07:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:07:32 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Vaughan Message-Id: <200203262207.OAA11814@tantivy.stanford.edu> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: xdm problem after making world.. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A couple days ago, I did an upgrade from a -stable build of earlier this month, and since then I have not been able to get xdm to work at all. When xdm is started, I get a quick flash of a background screen, and then it goes blank. this repeats until xdm is killed. No errors are logged. I've tried rebuilding both -stable, and X (4.2), and still the same problem.. Any thoughts on where I should look next? this is very frustrating.. -- Welcome My Son, Welcome To The Machine -- Bob Vaughan | techie@{w6yx|tantivy}.stanford.edu | kc6sxc@w6yx.ampr.org | P.O. Box 19792, Stanford, Ca 94309 -- I am Me, I am only Me, And no one else is Me, What could be simpler? -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 14:20:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vcnet.com (mail.vcnet.com [209.239.239.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B85937B422 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 64310 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Mar 2002 22:20:01 -0000 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:20:01 -0800 From: Jon Rust To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: natd/divert/ipfw timeout values changed in 4.5S? Message-ID: <20020326142001.H36000@mail.vcnet.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: http://www.freebsd.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since upgrading from 4.4S to 4.5S I'm having some problems behind a FreeBSD natd box. Specifically, some users have Filemaker and TimbuktuPro. When they first initiate the connection, everything is fine, but after X minutes of inactivity, the connection goes completely AWOL. The effected system can still reach the net, but those particular apps have to be force quit and restarted in order to recover. This did not happen prior to 4.5S, and I've exhausted other avenues for potential culprits. Comparing sysctl values =~ /net.inet/ on an older system to a 4.5S system, i see a few diffs, but I'm not sure of what the variables in question do. new: net.inet.ip.fw.static_count: 7 net.inet.tcp.newreno: 1 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_udp_lifetime: 10 net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_grace_time: 10 net.inet.ip.maxfragpackets: 256 net.inet.ip.check_interface: 0 net.inet.tcp.do_tcpdrain: 1 net.inet.tcp.pcbcount: 14 net.inet.tcp.icmp_may_rst: 1 net.inet.tcp.strict_rfc1948: 0 net.inet.tcp.isn_reseed_interval: 0 net.inet.tcp.syncookies: 1 net.inet.tcp.syncache.bucketlimit: 30 net.inet.tcp.syncache.cachelimit: 15359 net.inet.tcp.syncache.count: 0 net.inet.tcp.syncache.hashsize: 512 net.inet.tcp.syncache.rexmtlimit: 3 changed: net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_fin_lifetime: 1 (was 20) net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_rst_lifetime: 1 (was 5) net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_short_lifetime: 5 (was 30) net.inet.tcp.local_slowstart_flightsize: 4 (was 65535) net.inet.tcp.rfc1323: 1 (was 0) Here's my IPFW ruleset: 00050 divert 8668 ip from any to any via dc0 00060 pipe 1 tcp from any 119 to any in 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 00300 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any 65000 allow ip from any to any 65535 deny ip from any to any Thanks in advance for any help you can lend, jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 14:24:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2CD37B417; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:24:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a234.otenet.gr [212.205.215.234]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2QMOevD012469; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:24:41 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2QMOddw043552; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:24:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2QMOd5w043541; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:24:39 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:24:34 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For review: Revised sendmail startup settings Message-ID: <20020326222434.GA42139@hades.hell.gr> References: <15520.10783.995435.407285@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020326201817.GB17467@hades.hell.gr> <15520.57172.667705.498166@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15520.57172.667705.498166@horsey.gshapiro.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-03-26 12:51, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > keramida> I am not sure if duplicating the code of etc/rc in > keramida> etc/mail/Makefile is something I am really happy about though. > keramida> This means that anyone who wants to make changes to etc/rc should > keramida> remember to update etc/mail/Makefile too. > > Yes, I really hope the /etc/rc.d work in -CURRENT picks up again so > /etc/mail/Makefile can just call that. Alternatively, I could just > go ahead and create /etc/rc.sendmail but I might get some flack for doing > that. Aye. Until there is a more NetBSD'ish way of calling sendmail in /etc, we can probably get away with a note in /etc/rc that says "If you make changes related to Sendmail in this file, please update *that* file too." Can we put something like this in /etc/rc? Giorgos. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 14:27:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-us3.origin-it.com (gw-us3.origin-it.com [198.133.202.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C0F37B400; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com (localhost.origin-it.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us3.origin-it.com with ESMTP id QAA01828; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:27:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com(172.16.127.66) by gw-us3.origin-it.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma001826; Tue, 26 Mar 02 16:27:10 -0600 Received: from mail.de.origin-it.com (smtprelay-de1.origin-it.com [172.16.188.53]) by exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id XAA13880; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:27:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailhub.de.origin-it.com (mailhub.de.origin-it.com [172.16.189.20]) by mail.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id XAA22368; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:27:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (galaxy.de.cp.philips.com [130.143.166.29]) by mailhub.de.origin-it.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/hmo19mar02) with ESMTP id g2QMR1M81027; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:27:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo14aug98) id XAA27664; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:26:57 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed In-Reply-To: <20020326223457.B25907@mail.webmonster.de> from "Karsten W. Rohrbach" at "Mar 26, 2002 10:34:57 pm" To: karsten@rohrbach.de (Karsten W. Rohrbach) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:26:57 +0100 (MET) Cc: raymond.j.kohler@lmco.com, gshapiro@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org From: Helge Oldach X-Address: Atos Origin GmbH, Billstrasse 80, D-20539 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 464, Fax: +49 40 7886 235, Mobile: +49 160 4782517 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Karsten W. Rohrbach: >the question is: why the hell are complex (or rather complicated) >subsystems that often stay unused still in the base distribution? it is >simply not consequent, not following the main paradigm of bsd's design, >to have subsystems like sendmail or bind in the base dist, Because they don't ...stay unused. It's just convenient to have a standard, well- and widely-known piece of software around. You may not like it but both Sendmail and BIND are the de facto standards. Period. You have all hooks to throw them away and substitute them with something different, so please don't bother the world if they don't grok your personal taste. Not another sendmail-versus-whatever discussion please... Please! Helge P.S. Get rid of vi; cat should be enough for everyone! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 15: 2:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C51637B404; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2QN2WGd023067 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2QN2W4i023064; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:02:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15520.65032.213201.120342@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:02:32 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For review: Revised sendmail startup settings In-Reply-To: <20020326222434.GA42139@hades.hell.gr> References: <15520.10783.995435.407285@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020326201817.GB17467@hades.hell.gr> <15520.57172.667705.498166@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020326222434.GA42139@hades.hell.gr> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG keramida> Aye. Until there is a more NetBSD'ish way of calling sendmail in keramida> /etc, we can probably get away with a note in /etc/rc that says keramida> "If you make changes related to Sendmail in this file, please keramida> update *that* file too." Can we put something like this in keramida> /etc/rc? Sure, I'll add it when I commit the revised /etc/rc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 15:11:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422C737B41D; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a201.otenet.gr [212.205.215.201]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2QNBJvD021460; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 01:11:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2QNBFCG000458; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 01:11:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2QNBD7j000437; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 01:11:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 01:11:07 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For review: Revised sendmail startup settings Message-ID: <20020326231106.GA336@hades.hell.gr> References: <15520.10783.995435.407285@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020326201817.GB17467@hades.hell.gr> <15520.57172.667705.498166@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020326222434.GA42139@hades.hell.gr> <15520.65032.213201.120342@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15520.65032.213201.120342@horsey.gshapiro.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-03-26 15:02, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > keramida> Aye. Until there is a more NetBSD'ish way of calling sendmail in > keramida> /etc, we can probably get away with a note in /etc/rc that says > keramida> "If you make changes related to Sendmail in this file, please > keramida> update *that* file too." Can we put something like this in > keramida> /etc/rc? > > Sure, I'll add it when I commit the revised /etc/rc. It's a compromise, since the best thing would be to be able to call /etc/rc from the Makefile, but thank you for doing a great job maintaining Sendmail on FreeBSD :) Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 15:22:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.113.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784D037B417; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private.lan [192.168.0.2]) by pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2QNMUP91234; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:22:30 GMT (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3CA102B6.98AE46B3@ntlworld.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:22:30 +0000 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For review: Revised sendmail startup settings References: <15520.10783.995435.407285@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020326201817.GB17467@hades.hell.gr> <15520.57172.667705.498166@horsey.gshapiro.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > > keramida> I am not sure if duplicating the code of etc/rc in > keramida> etc/mail/Makefile is something I am really happy about though. > keramida> This means that anyone who wants to make changes to etc/rc should > keramida> remember to update etc/mail/Makefile too. > > Yes, I really hope the /etc/rc.d work in -CURRENT picks up again so > /etc/mail/Makefile can just call that. Alternatively, I could just > go ahead and create /etc/rc.sendmail but I might get some flack for doing > that. > If it would let you delay sendmail startup until the milter daemons kick in, I'd vote for it. AFAICT you're on you own if you need to do this at present. From our unsubtle hint department: Now it's in the base system I'm seriously considering hacking /etc/rc to accept sendmail_enable="DELAY" BTW I just upgraded (was using 12.2 port). I included the milter patch and SASL. No problems so far. Three cheers for GNS... -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 16:45:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96C1D37B416 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 33659 invoked by uid 100); 27 Mar 2002 00:45:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15521.5681.560963.960936@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:45:37 -0600 To: Bill Swingle Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: S/Key Password? In-Reply-To: <20020326201700.GA71068@dub.net> References: <3CA0084E.1030606@atrustrivalie.org> <001d01c1d489$4375b480$da8ea392@zeus> <20020326201700.GA71068@dub.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.49 (Python 2.2 on freebsd4) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <20020326201700.GA71068@dub.net>, Bill Swingle typed: > This has been a source of annoyance (for me) over the past few months. > Of course it would have been avoided had I actually examined the diff of > sshd_config in mergemaster so I'm not really complaining. > > To get rid of the s/key functionality uncomment this line in > /etc/ssh/sshd_config: > > # Uncomment to disable s/key passwords > ChallengeResponseAuthentication no > > Do enough people actually use s/key to justify having it enabled by > default? If you don't like the idea of fooling with a file that's part of the distribution, this can also be disabled by setting it in ~/.ssh/config on the client side. Of course, if you don't know where you're going to be coming from, that doesn't help much. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 17: 9:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neko.cts.com (neko.cts.com [209.68.192.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515A337B405 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from golf.cts.com (golf.cts.com [205.163.23.102]) by neko.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25952 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun.space.lan (cox-vortex [192.168.1.2]) by golf.cts.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2R19eb08939 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:09:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from morgan.davis@hosting.com) Received: from mars (mars.space.lan [192.168.0.6]) by sun.space.lan (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2R19er18197 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:09:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from morgan.davis@hosting.com) From: "Morgan Davis" To: Subject: RE: wi broken? Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:09:44 -0800 Organization: Hosting.com Message-ID: <003701c1d52c$14b1f9d0$0600a8c0@space.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020318.182844.22165854.imp@village.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Still dead in the water with my wireless PCI/pccard combo which used to work before this commit. It appears to have broken several other devices, too. Is there an effort to restore a working in.c into -STABLE at some point? --Morgan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd- > stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of M. Warner Losh > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 5:29 PM > To: ambrisko@ambrisko.com > Cc: morgan.davis@hosting.com; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: wi broken? > > In message: <200203182127.g2ILRDY70537@ambrisko.com> > Doug Ambrisko writes: > : Morgan Davis writes: > : | After updating to the latest -STABLE as of 3/6/2002, wi refused to > work > : | anymore. I updated my kernel as of 4:30PM PST today since wi_if.c was > : | changed. Still, no good. Relevant networking details on my system: > : | > : | FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #0: Sat Mar 16 16:32:51 PST 2002 > : | > : | wi0: port > : | 0xdc00-0xdc3f,0xd800-0xd87f mem 0xde000000-0xde000fff irq 10 at device > : | 10.0 on pci0 > : | wi0: 802.11 address: 00:90:d1:07:3b:61 > : | wi0: using RF:PRISM2 MAC:HFA3841 CARD:HWB3163 rev.A, Firmware: 0.7 > : | variant 6 > : | rl0: port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem > : | 0xde001000-0xde0010ff irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 > : | rl0: Ethernet address: 00:30:1b:07:63:76 > : | miibus0: on rl0 > : | rlphy0: on miibus0 > : | rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > : | > : | I read where others have had to do a "ifconfig fxp0 down" first before > : | they can bring their wi devices up, but "ifconfig rl0 down" didn't > work > : | for me. When I try to invoke dhclient on wi0, I immediately get this: > : | > : | ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): Can't assign requested address > : | > : | ...and it never does communicate with the DHCP server. All the > : | wicontrol details appear to be correct. > : | > : | How can I help debug this? > : > : I think this all due to the change in sys/netinet/in.c. Try to use > : version 1.44.2.7 and see if it fixes this. This commit also broke > : kernel BOOTP/DHCP configuration. Maybe this need code needs to > : verify that the duplicate 0.0.0.0 addresses are okay and not report > : an error. If it does you might want to ping the authors of the commit. > > I have verified that ed and ep have similar problems in -stable. > Likely it is this change. I think we should back it out in -current > and in -stable personally, but haven't had time to pursue it. > > Warner > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 17:43:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mighty.grot.org (mighty.grot.org [204.182.56.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3D137B404 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by mighty.grot.org (Postfix, from userid 515) id E3C755E9D; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:43:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:43:05 -0800 From: Aditya To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: serial console vs. serial terminal Message-ID: <20020327014305.GA81311@mighty.grot.org> Reply-To: Aditya Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.grot.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x6405D8D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [sorry, I'm not sure whether this should go in -stable or -hardware hence the double-post] This has me entirely confused so any hints are very appreciated. I have 3 different types of motherboards running FreeBSD 4-STABLE all in various states of cvsup but none older than 2 weeks ago. Using a null modem cable from one of them I can connect to each of the serial ports and get a login prompt as per what I have for ttyd0 in /etc/ttys: ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup on secure however, if I connect to them from a Cyclades T2000 terminal server using a cat5 patch cable and a RJ45-DB9F modular adapter I can't type anything in but I do see output (ie. from syslog). The most bizzare thing is if I reboot with: set console=comconsole in /boot/loader.rc it works fine with the Cyclades...that is, booting up, I see: sio0: type 16550A, console rather than: sio0: type 16550A So what is it about explictly setting sio0 to be the console that changes the serial line discipline? Connecting with a regular null modem cable seems to be unaffected in either case. Adi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 17:51:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBC537B405 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:51:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020327015125.VASJ1147.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 01:51:25 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2R1pKG91468; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:51:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:51:19 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Michael Hostbaek Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newsyslog.conf - sudden error Message-ID: <20020326175119.I89885@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <20020325102339.GC529@mich.itxmarket.com> <20020325161817.C84226@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020326092656.GA515@mich.itxmarket.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020326092656.GA515@mich.itxmarket.com>; from mich@freebsdcluster.org on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:26:56AM +0100 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:26:56AM +0100, Michael Hostbaek wrote: > Crist J. Clark (cjc) writes: > > That error message means it's having trouble reading the "$W0D2." But > > I believe that is valid syntax. I can't see any recent changes to > > newsyslog(8) that might be making problems. > > > > Is there something special about that time? There wasn't some kind of > > DST-Standard time switch in the local timezone, was there (kind of > > early in the year for that)? > > Well, the one box that do work (4.4-STABLE) is located in the UK (hence > another timezone -1) - whereas the other boxes are located in Italy and > France. Could that be the problem ? Looking for a reason mktime(3) may have failed. That's the only reason you would get that error other than the syntax being no good. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 18: 1: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E53937B405 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:01:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020327020105.VJWG1147.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 02:01:05 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2R214f91529; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:01:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:01:04 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: krzysztof Strzelczyk Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Kernel mtree error question Message-ID: <20020326180104.J89885@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <20020326192802.88827.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020326192802.88827.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com>; from cs052279@yahoo.com on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 11:28:02AM -0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Please don't crosspost to -stable and -questions. One or the other.] On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 11:28:02AM -0800, krzysztof Strzelczyk wrote: > Hello, > > When I tried to build my kernel from 4.4-release to > 4.5-stable I go this error: > > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var > mtree: line 63: unknown user smmsp > *** Error code 1 > > Hmmm... So I go out and create this user based on the > above file and presto!! It works. > > My question is can anyone tell me what the smmsp user > is for sendmail(8). > and why you have to have this user to build the > kernel? You shouldn't need it to build the kernel or build anything. You should only get that error when you mergemaster(8). What comand to build a kernel is generating that error? -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 18:11:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptldme-mls2.maine.rr.com (ptldme-mls2.maine.rr.com [24.93.159.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52EE037B416 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:11:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijitaru (ubr02-24-31-148-112.maine.rr.com [24.31.148.112] (may be forged)) by ptldme-mls2.maine.rr.com (8.11.0/RoadRunner 1.03) with ESMTP id g2R0xkQ25468 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:59:47 -0500 (EST) From: "dijitaru" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:59:15 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c1d52a$9e3ec0e0$097ba8c0@dijitaru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 18:52:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.rootme.org [65.214.43.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B15D37B419 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AB4B4702; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:52:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:52:29 -0500 From: Sean Lutner To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Installword problems Message-ID: <20020327025229.GF56680@rentul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just cvsup'd as of less than an hour ago, buolt world, buildkernel, installkernel, and am now attempting installworld. The installworld is failing with the following error... set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/locale.deprecated`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do for dir in /usr/share/locale /usr/share/nls /usr/local/share/nls; do test -d /${dir} && cd /${dir}; test -L "$2" && rm -rf "$2"; test \! -L "$1" && test -d "$1" && mv "$1" "$2"; done; shift; shift; done mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p / ./etc/periodic/security missing (created) mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var mtree: line 63: unknown user smmsp *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/etc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. When I look at /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist I see the following on lines 62-66 spool clientmqueue uname=smmsp gname=smmsp mode=0770 .. lock uname=uucp gname=dialer mode=0775 .. However, when I look in /var/spool on my system, I do not see any such directory. [/var/spool] ll total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 512 Jan 6 2000 apache drwxrwxr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Feb 28 13:58 lock drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Apr 21 2001 lpd drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Mar 26 03:08 mqueue drwx------ 2 root daemon 512 Apr 21 2001 opielocks drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Apr 21 2001 output drwxrwxr-x 7 uucp uucp 512 Apr 21 2001 uucp drwxrwxrwx 2 uucp uucp 512 Apr 21 2001 uucppublic Anyone have any ideas what's going on? Thanks Sean -- Sean Lutner | www: http://www.rentul.net e-mail: sean@rentul.net | gpg: http://www.rentul.net/sean.sig "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 18:56:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.rootme.org [65.214.43.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0144237B405 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C9584704; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:56:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:56:50 -0500 From: Sean Lutner To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installword problems Message-ID: <20020327025650.GG56680@rentul.net> References: <20020327025229.GF56680@rentul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020327025229.GF56680@rentul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry to follow up to my own message, but I also do not have a user smmsp, seems like someone has lef tsomething local in the tree or something. Thanks again Sean On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 09:52:29PM -0500, Sean Lutner wrote: > I've just cvsup'd as of less than an hour ago, buolt world, buildkernel, installkernel, and am now attempting installworld. The installworld is failing with the following error... > > set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/locale.deprecated`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do for dir in /usr/share/locale /usr/share/nls /usr/local/share/nls; do test -d /${dir} && cd /${dir}; test -L "$2" && rm -rf "$2"; test \! -L "$1" && test -d "$1" && mv "$1" "$2"; done; shift; shift; done > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p / > ./etc/periodic/security missing (created) > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var > mtree: line 63: unknown user smmsp > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/etc. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > When I look at /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist I see the following on lines 62-66 > > spool > clientmqueue uname=smmsp gname=smmsp mode=0770 > .. > lock uname=uucp gname=dialer mode=0775 > .. > > However, when I look in /var/spool on my system, I do not see any such directory. > > [/var/spool] ll > total 8 > drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 512 Jan 6 2000 apache > drwxrwxr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Feb 28 13:58 lock > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Apr 21 2001 lpd > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Mar 26 03:08 mqueue > drwx------ 2 root daemon 512 Apr 21 2001 opielocks > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Apr 21 2001 output > drwxrwxr-x 7 uucp uucp 512 Apr 21 2001 uucp > drwxrwxrwx 2 uucp uucp 512 Apr 21 2001 uucppublic > > > Anyone have any ideas what's going on? > > Thanks > Sean > > -- > Sean Lutner | www: http://www.rentul.net > e-mail: sean@rentul.net | gpg: http://www.rentul.net/sean.sig > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Sean Lutner | www: http://www.rentul.net e-mail: sean@rentul.net | gpg: http://www.rentul.net/sean.sig "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 19: 0:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.lewman.org (lowrider.rootme.org [65.214.43.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D941937B419 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.lewman.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3CA44705; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:00:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:00:42 -0500 From: Sean Lutner To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installword problems Message-ID: <20020327030042.GH56680@rentul.net> References: <20020327025229.GF56680@rentul.net> <20020327025650.GG56680@rentul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020327025650.GG56680@rentul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG please ignore me, i'm a moron. :) On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 09:56:50PM -0500, Sean Lutner wrote: > Sorry to follow up to my own message, but I also do not have a user smmsp, seems like someone has lef tsomething local in the tree or something. > > Thanks again > Sean > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 09:52:29PM -0500, Sean Lutner wrote: > > I've just cvsup'd as of less than an hour ago, buolt world, buildkernel, installkernel, and am now attempting installworld. The installworld is failing with the following error... > > > > set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/locale.deprecated`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do for dir in /usr/share/locale /usr/share/nls /usr/local/share/nls; do test -d /${dir} && cd /${dir}; test -L "$2" && rm -rf "$2"; test \! -L "$1" && test -d "$1" && mv "$1" "$2"; done; shift; shift; done > > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p / > > ./etc/periodic/security missing (created) > > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var > > mtree: line 63: unknown user smmsp > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/etc. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > When I look at /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist I see the following on lines 62-66 > > > > spool > > clientmqueue uname=smmsp gname=smmsp mode=0770 > > .. > > lock uname=uucp gname=dialer mode=0775 > > .. > > > > However, when I look in /var/spool on my system, I do not see any such directory. > > > > [/var/spool] ll > > total 8 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 512 Jan 6 2000 apache > > drwxrwxr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Feb 28 13:58 lock > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Apr 21 2001 lpd > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root daemon 512 Mar 26 03:08 mqueue > > drwx------ 2 root daemon 512 Apr 21 2001 opielocks > > drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Apr 21 2001 output > > drwxrwxr-x 7 uucp uucp 512 Apr 21 2001 uucp > > drwxrwxrwx 2 uucp uucp 512 Apr 21 2001 uucppublic > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas what's going on? > > > > Thanks > > Sean > > > > -- > > Sean Lutner | www: http://www.rentul.net > > e-mail: sean@rentul.net | gpg: http://www.rentul.net/sean.sig > > > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Sean Lutner | www: http://www.rentul.net > e-mail: sean@rentul.net | gpg: http://www.rentul.net/sean.sig > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Sean Lutner | www: http://www.rentul.net e-mail: sean@rentul.net | gpg: http://www.rentul.net/sean.sig "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 19:24:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from islc.net (mail1.islc.net [208.224.174.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EA9E37B405 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:24:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26631 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2002 03:23:47 -0000 Received: from ts7g31.islc.net (HELO saturated) (216.49.165.31) by 0 with SMTP for ; 27 Mar 2002 03:23:47 -0000 X-Envelope-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <003701c1d53e$d4c31d50$1fa531d8@saturated> From: "paul" To: Subject: dell inspiron 8000 freebsd-stable Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:23:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C1D514.E98CDE30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C1D514.E98CDE30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DVD-ROM drive on inspiron 8000 doesn't work in freebsd -stable. 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------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C1D514.E98CDE30-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 19:28:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from islc.net (mail1.islc.net [208.224.174.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB4FC37B431 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:28:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1024 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2002 03:27:23 -0000 Received: from ts7g31.islc.net (HELO saturated) (216.49.165.31) by 0 with SMTP for ; 27 Mar 2002 03:27:23 -0000 X-Envelope-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <004901c1d53f$552ca650$1fa531d8@saturated> From: "paul" To: Subject: dell inspiron 8000 freebsd -stable Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:27:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG DVD-ROM drive on inspiron 8000 doesn't work in freebsd -stable. I searched the mailing lists and found a work around to do an autoboot_delay="60" which after doing my dvdrom drive worked fine in FreeBSD 4.5 -release, however does not work in -stable. I get a..........acd0c:Device not configured. Any help would be greatly appreciated -Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 19:35:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sumter.awod.com (sumter.awod.com [208.140.99.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1301937B404 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:35:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from teddy.fas.com (pcp01010372pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net [68.58.176.67]) by sumter.awod.com (8.8.7/8.12.2) with ESMTP id WAA84397 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:35:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) X-Authentication-Warning: sumter.awod.com: User stanb [pcp01010372pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net] popped 77 seconds ago Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16q4Eg-0003i9-00 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:36:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:36:30 -0500 From: stan To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: ppp troubles after this weekend's cvsup Message-ID: <20020327033630.GA14145@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.17 X-Uptime: 22:30:42 up 4 days, 3:15, 2 users, load average: 0.27, 0.23, 0.13 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'd my box this weekend. Today, for the first time since the upgrade, I tried to use teh dialout ppp functionality that this machine had in the past. However something strange is going on. When I send a packet to that machine now, it dials and makes the conection, however, somthing seems mucked up with routing. Look at this: tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500 inet 170.85.107.1 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 170.85.107.98 --> 170.85.107.14 netmask 0xffffffff Opened by PID 213 This looks pretty strange to me. Any idease what may have change in the past couple of weeks to change this? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 20:12:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41A337B416 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:12:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2R4C1ru036383; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:42:01 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Subject: Re: dell inspiron 8000 freebsd -stable From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: paul Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <004901c1d53f$552ca650$1fa531d8@saturated> References: <004901c1d53f$552ca650$1fa531d8@saturated> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Date: 27 Mar 2002 15:41:59 +1130 Message-Id: <1017202321.13285.0.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5 required=5 X-Spam-Level: (-5) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 14:57, paul wrote: > DVD-ROM drive on inspiron 8000 doesn't work in freebsd -stable. I > searched the mailing lists and found a work around to do an > autoboot_delay="60" which after doing my dvdrom drive worked fine in FreeBSD > 4.5 -release, however does not work in -stable. > I get a..........acd0c:Device not configured. Any help would be greatly > appreciated Recent commits to the ATA code have broken CDROM support.. Not sure if it has just been fixed yet. I'm in the same boat (well, I have the same laptop with a CD-ROM drive) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 20:40:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web13608.mail.yahoo.com (web13608.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B170E37B419 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:40:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020327044017.47681.qmail@web13608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.225.217.208] by web13608.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:40:17 PST Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:40:17 -0800 (PST) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: Re: S/Key Password? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020326201700.GA71068@dub.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Bill Swingle wrote: > This has been a source of annoyance (for me) over the past few > months. > Of course it would have been avoided had I actually examined the diff > of > sshd_config in mergemaster so I'm not really complaining. > > To get rid of the s/key functionality uncomment this line in > /etc/ssh/sshd_config: > > # Uncomment to disable s/key passwords > ChallengeResponseAuthentication no > > Do enough people actually use s/key to justify having it enabled by > default? Yes, I love it: confuses hulluva lot of folks :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 20:42:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5871B37B419 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:42:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (webmail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.235]) by mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g2R4g8f01008; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:42:08 +1100 Message-Id: <200203270442.g2R4g8f01008@mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [203.13.126.19] as user satare@optusnet.com.au by webmail.optusnet.com.au with HTTP; From: Michael Ross To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: paul , "freebsd-stable @ FreeBSD . ORG" Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:42:07 +1100 Subject: Re: Re: dell inspiron 8000 freebsd -stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 14:57, paul wrote: > > DVD-ROM drive on inspiron 8000 doesn't work in freebsd -stable. > I > > searched the mailing lists and found a work around to do an > > autoboot_delay="60" which after doing my dvdrom drive worked fine > in FreeBSD > > 4.5 -release, however does not work in -stable. > > I get a..........acd0c:Device not configured. Any help would be > greatly > > appreciated > > Recent commits to the ATA code have broken CDROM support.. > > Not sure if it has just been fixed yet. > > I'm in the same boat (well, I have the same laptop with a CD-ROM > drive) I had the same problem on my pc. All I did to fix it though was remake all of the /dev when I ran mergemaster. Michael Ross satare@optusnet.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 21: 8:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.nc.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64B437B419 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from i8k.babbleon.org ([66.57.85.154]) by Mail6.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:08:19 -0500 Received: by i8k.babbleon.org (Postfix, from userid 111) id 0611EBB39; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:08:17 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian T.Schellenberger To: "Daniel O'Connor" , paul Subject: Re: dell inspiron 8000 freebsd -stable Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:08:17 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <004901c1d53f$552ca650$1fa531d8@saturated> <1017202321.13285.0.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1017202321.13285.0.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020327050817.0611EBB39@i8k.babbleon.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday 26 March 2002 11:11 pm, Daniel O'Connor wrote: | On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 14:57, paul wrote: | > DVD-ROM drive on inspiron 8000 doesn't work in freebsd -stable. I | > searched the mailing lists and found a work around to do an | > autoboot_delay="60" which after doing my dvdrom drive worked fine in | > FreeBSD 4.5 -release, however does not work in -stable. | > I get a..........acd0c:Device not configured. Any help would be greatly | > appreciated | | Recent commits to the ATA code have broken CDROM support.. Try rebuilding ata devices. I have an i8000 and I have the ATA updates (in fact, I tested it before it was even committed to stable). | | Not sure if it has just been fixed yet. | | I'm in the same boat (well, I have the same laptop with a CD-ROM drive) | | --- | Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer | for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au | "The nice thing about standards is that there | are so many of them to choose from." | -- Andrew Tanenbaum | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . . bts@wnt.sas.com (work) Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . bts@babbleon.org (personal) ME --> http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org <-- GOOD GUYS --> http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 21:46:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967AA37B416 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2R5k2ru037832; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:16:03 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Subject: Re: dell inspiron 8000 freebsd -stable From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Brian T.Schellenberger" Cc: paul , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020327050817.0611EBB39@i8k.babbleon.org> References: <004901c1d53f$552ca650$1fa531d8@saturated> <1017202321.13285.0.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <20020327050817.0611EBB39@i8k.babbleon.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Date: 27 Mar 2002 17:16:01 +1130 Message-Id: <1017207963.13285.6.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5 required=5 X-Spam-Level: (-5) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 16:38, Brian T.Schellenberger wrote: > Try rebuilding ata devices. I have an i8000 and I have the ATA updates (in > fact, I tested it before it was even committed to stable). Ahh that works, thanks. The minor number changed. Mergemaster doesn't seem to update MAKEDEV for me consistently. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 22:36:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herbelot.dyndns.org (d211.dhcp212-198-26.noos.fr [212.198.26.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB4637B405 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from herbelot.com (tulipe.herbelot.nom [192.168.1.5]) by herbelot.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11191; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:34:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thierry@herbelot.com) Message-ID: <3CA167F0.384ED6F6@herbelot.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:34:24 +0100 From: Thierry Herbelot X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Vaughan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xdm problem after making world.. References: <200203262207.OAA11814@tantivy.stanford.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bob Vaughan wrote: > > A couple days ago, I did an upgrade from a -stable build of earlier this > month, and since then I have not been able to get xdm to work at all. > > When xdm is started, I get a quick flash of a background screen, and then > it goes blank. this repeats until xdm is killed. > when starting, xdm chown's the console, which was breaking on one of my machines, where the user name contains a period ('.'). chown still thinks the dot is the separator between the user name and the group name. My cure was to rebuild chown from the src tree (in src/usr.sbin/chown/), with the option CFLAGS+=-DSUPPORT_DOT commented out of the Makefile HTH TfH PS : FreeBSD supports dots in user names since 3.0 - chown still does not !!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 22:53:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tantivy.stanford.edu (tantivy.Stanford.EDU [171.64.234.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327E837B417 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:53:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from techie@localhost) by tantivy.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA13611; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:53:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:53:21 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Vaughan Message-Id: <200203270653.WAA13611@tantivy.stanford.edu> To: techie@tantivy.stanford.edu, thierry@herbelot.com Subject: Re: xdm problem after making world.. Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3CA167F0.384ED6F6@herbelot.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:34:24 +0100 > From: Thierry Herbelot > To: Bob Vaughan > CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: xdm problem after making world.. > > Bob Vaughan wrote: > > > > A couple days ago, I did an upgrade from a -stable build of earlier this > > month, and since then I have not been able to get xdm to work at all. > > > > When xdm is started, I get a quick flash of a background screen, and then > > it goes blank. this repeats until xdm is killed. > > > > when starting, xdm chown's the console, which was breaking on one of my > machines, where the user name contains a period ('.'). chown still > thinks the dot is the separator between the user name and the group > name. > > My cure was to rebuild chown from the src tree (in src/usr.sbin/chown/), > with the option CFLAGS+=-DSUPPORT_DOT commented out of the Makefile > > HTH > > TfH > > PS : FreeBSD supports dots in user names since 3.0 - chown still does > not !!! > This dosen't explain why it suddenly broke.. (3.0 is quite old by now :-) This was an upgrade from a 4.5-stable of around 3/6/02 or so.. This is also a one user machine.. no dots in userids.. -- Welcome My Son, Welcome To The Machine -- Bob Vaughan | techie@{w6yx|tantivy}.stanford.edu | kc6sxc@w6yx.ampr.org | P.O. Box 19792, Stanford, Ca 94309 -- I am Me, I am only Me, And no one else is Me, What could be simpler? -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 22:56:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7AE237B404 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:56:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 34919 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Mar 2002 06:57:05 -0000 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:57:05 +0100 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Helge Oldach Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020327075705.A34517@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20020326223457.B25907@mail.webmonster.de> <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com>; from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 11:26:57PM +0100 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer X-Work-URL: http://www.ngenn.net/ X-Work-Address: nGENn GmbH, Schloss Kransberg, D-61250 Usingen-Kransberg, Germany X-Work-Phone: +49-6081-682-304 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Helge Oldach(helge.oldach@atosorigin.com)@2002.03.26 23:26:57 +0000: [...] > standard, well- and widely-known piece of software around. You may not > like it but both S******* and B*** are the de facto standards. Period. they are not, but this is not the issue. "it is just convenient to have emacs in the base system", it's a de facto standard, it's widely known and i guess it's much more widespread than the use of sendmail. but, again, this is not the issue here. why not have apache in the base dist? (to quote one part of the original again). > You have all hooks to throw them away and substitute them with something > different, so please don't bother the world if they don't grok your > personal taste. this isn't about my "personal taste", this is about "philosophy", just as i stated in the other pragraph you generously deleted. thank you. > Not another sendmail-versus-whatever discussion please... Please! this isn't it neither. re-read the original mail and think about it again. > P.S. Get rid of vi; cat should be enough for everyone! do you really expect me to comment on this? btw, "guessing" from the domain part of you mail address, you should actually be interested in straightforwardness and stability of implementations in the field your company operates in, shouldn't you? btw2, it's very hard to make a point if the first sentence of an email ends with "period.", even harder if you fail to make a point in your whole argumentation. btw3, if you didn't still did not understand what i meant in the original mail (i know, i'm not a native english speaker, so are you, so the chosen language might not be as efficient due to my deficiencies), please think about it _again_. it is about simplicity of implementation. straighforwardness. ease of administration. this in context to what i see as the basic paradigms in bsd's design. and this all in relation to "how-it-is-done in -RELEASE". i don't want to change somebody's lifestyle. i don't want to change the release engineer's way of thinking. i want the people involved to think about the questions i posed in the original mail and i _know_ that this is a good idea. with=20 people like you, "guarding" the borders of "their" sandlot, of course,=20 there's not as much probability to come to a point of _discussion_, because you appear to _insist_ on the correctness of your view of the world. fwiw, let me tell you one thing my friend: when the catholic church around 1490 AD taught a picture of a world being flat as a dish, columbus was apparently the only one idealistic enough to prove them wrong. this was not the result of saying "we did this since 1300, why should we think different now?". you get my point. have a nice day, /k --=20 > Coders do it with a routine. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 My mail is GnuPG signed -- Unsigned ones are bogus -- http://www.gnupg.org/ Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oW1AM0BPTilkv0YRAr6nAKCwS1z5vZh2wX7OwYWoenEMDfsMjwCdGOBE HDjMMLG2M6qWhdXlapbd1J8= =BWod -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 26 23:33: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D5137B41B for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 23:33:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from gauss ([65.96.190.131]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020327073300.EIUT1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@gauss> for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:33:00 +0000 Message-ID: <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> From: "Yeasah Pell" To: References: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 02:31:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Karsten W. Rohrbach: > >the question is: why the hell are complex (or rather complicated) > >subsystems that often stay unused still in the base distribution? it is > >simply not consequent, not following the main paradigm of bsd's design, > >to have subsystems like sendmail or bind in the base dist, > > Because they don't ...stay unused. It's just convenient to have a > standard, well- and widely-known piece of software around. You may not > like it but both Sendmail and BIND are the de facto standards. Period. > > You have all hooks to throw them away and substitute them with something > different, so please don't bother the world if they don't grok your > personal taste. > > Not another sendmail-versus-whatever discussion please... Please! > > Helge > > P.S. Get rid of vi; cat should be enough for everyone! When did it become a sendmail-versus-whatever discussion? The question is simply this: why are there large, complex, non-BSD packages in src-contrib that are not critical to the running of many types of systems, and not strictly a dependency of the system proper? (Before you jump and say that some local mail delivery tool should be system-mandatory, note that the original suggestion was that if there is to be a default mail tool, it should be some very simple binmail style thing, not a whole full blown sendmail implementation.) I don't buy the argument that the software is there so that you can use it when you finally find a need for it. That could be said about much of the generally useful software that has found a home in the ports collection. Nor does the fact that sendmail and bind are de facto standards mean they should be afforded any different treatment than the many other de facto services that live in the ports tree. I'd guess that there are a similar number of BSD machines running apache as there are running sendmail, and probably substantially more than are running BIND -- but you don't find that piece of de facto web serving software in src-contrib, do you? The suggestion that moving sendmail or bind into the ports tree is tantamount to doing the same to vi is interesting, but I see a major difference between the two: I can hardly contrive an example where vi wouldn't be useful to have, whereas I have actually encountered many cases in my work where a DNS server and an MTA are both unwanted and even needed to be removed due to constraints unrelated to name resolution or mail transport. And, as Helge prematurely pointed out, there are perfectly functional alternatives to both of those packages, too. It seems analagous to opt-in (ports) versus opt-out (src) for software, except that the opt-out procedure is more involved (alter make.conf, buildworld) than the opt-in procedure (install the port), and is more difficult to manage (especially if you want to manage the software independent of the rest of the OS.) Given those characteristics, why would one prefer the "opt-out" method? Actually, when you start to think along those lines, it starts to take a Microsoft-esque bundled software favoritism shape, which might be why the "sendmail-versus-whatever" flag was raised prematurely. But I'm assuming that there are actual good reasons for this software being in the main tree, not simply for the advocacy of some particular software, as that seems pointless. (Also because the idea gives me the creeps.) My best guess for why they remain there is the momentum generated by their very presence -- if many or most people use that software, and moving it out would break their setups, it's not likely to change any time soon, eh? I've noticed that there are, in fact, sendmail and bind ports -- does anybody use them? if so, why, and do they interact poorly with their src-contrib counterparts? If not, why are they there? Is there some political struggle afoot to cleave these packages from the BSD sources proper? Are these old, deprecated ports? In fact, it seems like about 50% of the packages in src-contrib can also be found in the ports collection. That's pretty confusing, actually. Apparently, I have the bzip2 package installed for no reason, as it's part of stable. Pulled in as a logical dependency of tar's -y option, maybe? Are there plans to eventually deprecate the duplicated ports, or the packages in src-contrib, or neither? Is there any sort of rough policy on how to decide where to put a piece of non-BSD software? Anyway, I just wanted to say that some of Karsten's comments resonated with my own experiences, and while perhaps a little harshly worded, I think the questions deserve some thought. /Yeasah To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 0:14:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.itxmarket.com (fw.itxmarket.com [213.11.40.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7974E37B400; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mich.itxmarket.com (mich.itxmarket.com [192.168.2.27]) by mail2.itxmarket.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A439837C91; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:14:02 +0100 (CET) Received: by mich.itxmarket.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 304C0139E2C; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:13:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:13:59 +0100 From: Michael Hostbaek To: "Crist J. Clark" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newsyslog.conf - sudden error Message-ID: <20020327081358.GA233@mich.itxmarket.com> References: <20020325102339.GC529@mich.itxmarket.com> <20020325161817.C84226@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020326092656.GA515@mich.itxmarket.com> <20020326175119.I89885@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020326175119.I89885@blossom.cjclark.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 X-PGP-Key: http://www.freebsdcluster.org/~mich/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Crist J. Clark (cjc) writes: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:26:56AM +0100, Michael Hostbaek wrote: > > > > Well, the one box that do work (4.4-STABLE) is located in the UK (hence > > another timezone -1) - whereas the other boxes are located in Italy and > > France. Could that be the problem ? > > Looking for a reason mktime(3) may have failed. That's the only reason > you would get that error other than the syntax being no good. Hmmm.. well - I changed the syntax to '@T00' - and now it gives no problems ! Thanks for the help. -- Best Regards, Michael Landin Hostbaek FreeBSDCluster.org - an International Community */ PGP-key available upon request /* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 0:16: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-us3.origin-it.com (gw-us3.origin-it.com [198.133.202.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD5C37B417 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com (localhost.origin-it.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us3.origin-it.com with ESMTP id CAA26526; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 02:16:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com(172.16.127.66) by gw-us3.origin-it.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma026518; Wed, 27 Mar 02 02:16:01 -0600 Received: from mail.de.origin-it.com (smtprelay-de1.origin-it.com [172.16.188.53]) by exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id JAA19325; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:15:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailhub.de.origin-it.com (mailhub.de.origin-it.com [172.16.189.20]) by mail.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id JAA07413; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:15:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (galaxy.de.cp.philips.com [130.143.166.29]) by mailhub.de.origin-it.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/hmo19mar02) with ESMTP id g2R8FkM89005; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:15:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo14aug98) id JAA29124; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:15:43 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200203270815.JAA29124@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed In-Reply-To: <20020327075705.A34517@mail.webmonster.de> from "Karsten W. Rohrbach" at "Mar 27, 2002 7:57: 5 am" To: karsten@rohrbach.de (Karsten W. Rohrbach) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:15:42 +0100 (MET) Cc: stable@freebsd.org From: Helge Oldach X-Address: Atos Origin GmbH, Billstrasse 80, D-20539 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 464, Fax: +49 40 7886 235, Mobile: +49 160 4782517 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Karsten W. Rohrbach: >Helge Oldach(helge.oldach@atosorigin.com)@2002.03.26 23:26:57 +0000: >[...] >> standard, well- and widely-known piece of software around. You may not >> like it but both S******* and B*** are the de facto standards. Period. Please quote correctly and don't falsify my words here. I am not willing to discuss with you showing this unacceptable attitude. Helge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 0:37:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-us3.origin-it.com (gw-us3.origin-it.com [198.133.202.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6081037B416 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:37:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com (localhost.origin-it.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us3.origin-it.com with ESMTP id CAA01389; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 02:36:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com(172.16.127.66) by gw-us3.origin-it.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma001382; Wed, 27 Mar 02 02:36:37 -0600 Received: from mail.de.origin-it.com (smtprelay-de1.origin-it.com [172.16.188.53]) by exchsmtp-nl1.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id JAA23756; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:36:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from mailhub.de.origin-it.com (mailhub.de.origin-it.com [172.16.189.20]) by mail.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id JAA09300; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:36:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (galaxy.de.cp.philips.com [130.143.166.29]) by mailhub.de.origin-it.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/hmo19mar02) with ESMTP id g2R8aNM89578; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:36:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo14aug98) id JAA29261; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:36:19 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200203270836.JAA29261@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed In-Reply-To: <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> from Yeasah Pell at "Mar 27, 2002 2:31:42 am" To: yeasah@apocalypse.org (Yeasah Pell) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:36:19 +0100 (MET) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Helge Oldach X-Address: Atos Origin GmbH, Billstrasse 80, D-20539 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 464, Fax: +49 40 7886 235, Mobile: +49 160 4782517 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeasah Pell: >The question is >simply this: why are there large, complex, non-BSD packages in src-contrib >that are not critical to the running of many types of systems, and not >strictly a dependency of the system proper? Because they always have been. BSD users (those who have been running BSD systems for *years* and not those who jumped on the wagon lately) do expect that a decent, full-function MTA and DNS server are on board by default. And further they expect that those beasts are being configured as they have always been configured, in other words: No learning curve, no additional installation of the ports. This BSD thing is about tradition. "Alternative" software is what the word says: It's about re-inventing the wheel. This is the Linux spirit. >The suggestion that moving sendmail or bind into the ports tree is >tantamount to doing the same to vi is interesting, but I see a major >difference between the two: I can hardly contrive an example where vi >wouldn't be useful to have, whereas I have actually encountered many cases >in my work where a DNS server and an MTA are both unwanted and even needed >to be removed due to constraints unrelated to name resolution or mail >transport. I have the exactly opposite experience. Most of my systems need at least an outbound-only MTA, and it's much easier to add a single rc.conf line than to build a port, set aside installing the entire ports tree first. (Yes, I have a couple of machines without ports tree. Consider, for instance firewalls or VPN gateways.) Moving it into ports will complicate matters for almost everybody, while having some decent full-function package in the base system will make it easy at least for those who use that. Count this my strong vote against removal of packages that are traditionally part of the base system. Helge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 0:38:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C6DB337B419 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 36051 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Mar 2002 08:39:01 -0000 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:39:01 +0100 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Helge Oldach Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020327093901.B35734@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20020327075705.A34517@mail.webmonster.de> <200203270815.JAA29124@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200203270815.JAA29124@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com>; from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:15:42AM +0100 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer X-Work-URL: http://www.ngenn.net/ X-Work-Address: nGENn GmbH, Schloss Kransberg, D-61250 Usingen-Kransberg, Germany X-Work-Phone: +49-6081-682-304 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Helge Oldach(helge.oldach@atosorigin.com)@2002.03.27 09:15:42 +0000: > Karsten W. Rohrbach: > >Helge Oldach(helge.oldach@atosorigin.com)@2002.03.26 23:26:57 +0000: > >[...] > >> standard, well- and widely-known piece of software around. You may not > >> like it but both S******* and B*** are the de facto standards. Period. >=20 > Please quote correctly and don't falsify my words here. I am not willing > to discuss with you showing this unacceptable attitude. as i pointed out in my previous mail, this is _not_ a software[A] vs.=20 software[B] discussion, and your way of approaching the questions i=20 posed does not bring you, me, the community or anyone any further. i blanked out two "buzzwords", and that on purpose. this was not meant to falsify, and i admit that i should have marked this removal of non-relevant co-information. i think i made my point clear by now, so that everybody interested understands what i mean. in case of not understanding my words, everyone is free to _ask_. bashing on people without reason does not make any sense and i find your way to approach a discussion to be not very fruitful or constructive. that said i ask you if you also think of that as an "unacceptable attitude"? on the other hand, quoting you as "[...]not willing to discuss[...]", your behaviour ultimately proves that obviously this is the case, yes. if you are not able to discuss this on a technical level, or perhaps you are not in the mood to do so, please, consider not commenting on=20 the whole thing here. if you want to tell me your personal feelings about my person, please do so via private mail. you are always welcome to do that. my native language is german (i guess your's, too) so this might work out a little more productive than the stuff you posted here. thank you. have a nice day, /k --=20 > Hackers do it with fewer instructions. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 My mail is GnuPG signed -- Unsigned ones are bogus -- http://www.gnupg.org/ Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oYUlM0BPTilkv0YRApRbAKCgyT9NBKOnYzbMRlYjB9430zsuFACfZrkR KhsBxxme5hZRjIvmwT753M8= =0CTF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 0:58:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A42C737B400 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:58:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 36272 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Mar 2002 08:59:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:59:09 +0100 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Helge Oldach Cc: Yeasah Pell , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020327095909.C35734@mail.webmonster.de> References: <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> <200203270836.JAA29261@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JgQwtEuHJzHdouWu" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200203270836.JAA29261@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com>; from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:36:19AM +0100 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer X-Work-URL: http://www.ngenn.net/ X-Work-Address: nGENn GmbH, Schloss Kransberg, D-61250 Usingen-Kransberg, Germany X-Work-Phone: +49-6081-682-304 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --JgQwtEuHJzHdouWu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable no text deleted, everything quoted, not reformatted, no information removed. please, read on. Helge Oldach(helge.oldach@atosorigin.com)@2002.03.27 09:36:19 +0000: > Yeasah Pell: > >The question is > >simply this: why are there large, complex, non-BSD packages in src-contr= ib > >that are not critical to the running of many types of systems, and not > >strictly a dependency of the system proper? >=20 > Because they always have been. BSD users (those who have been running > BSD systems for *years* and not those who jumped on the wagon lately) do > expect that a decent, full-function MTA and DNS server are on board by > default. And further they expect that those beasts are being configured > as they have always been configured, in other words: No learning curve, > no additional installation of the ports. if you consider doing cd /usr/ports/whereever && make install clean as steep learning curve, i guess you disqualify yourself in this very forum. > This BSD thing is about tradition. "Alternative" software is what the > word says: It's about re-inventing the wheel. This is the Linux spirit. wrong, it is called evolution, a natural way of things evolving which does not stop just because somebody puts up a sign "this is bsd, we do it this way since 1970 and it won't change in the future". this has nothing to do with linux at all. it is also not about re-inventing the wheel. you seem to mix up the terms "tradition" and "religion" here, introducing an implicit amount of folklore, hoping that it will support your nonexistant line of argumentation. define: - "this bsd thing" - "linux spirit" when it comes to tradition, i cannot remember a single freebsd distribution which natively supports to be booted from tape. running bsd on pc hardware does not have anything to do with tradition. another point is that, if the community would stick to your way of "tradition", freebsd nowadays would run on laptop computers (why support pcmcia/cardbus? it's not been there in the 70's, so why should we bother to implement it today?). do i need to go on? > >The suggestion that moving sendmail or bind into the ports tree is > >tantamount to doing the same to vi is interesting, but I see a major > >difference between the two: I can hardly contrive an example where vi > >wouldn't be useful to have, whereas I have actually encountered many cas= es > >in my work where a DNS server and an MTA are both unwanted and even need= ed > >to be removed due to constraints unrelated to name resolution or mail > >transport. >=20 > I have the exactly opposite experience. Most of my systems need at least > an outbound-only MTA, and it's much easier to add a single rc.conf > line than to build a port, set aside installing the entire ports tree > first. (Yes, I have a couple of machines without ports tree. Consider, > for instance firewalls or VPN gateways.) Moving it into ports will > complicate matters for almost everybody, while having some decent > full-function package in the base system will make it easy at least for > those who use that. generally, you make a point here.=20 to come back to your original thought, do you consider having sendmail=20 on a firewall a good thing[tm]? sell that to your customers and prove me=20 that you do this successfully. this, just as a sidenote. as another sidenote, nobody prevents you from building a package yourself on a machine having a ports tree installed. these systems are known as "builder" machines, and most of the folks in the bsd community having more than just a handful of machines operate one. just to build their custom packages. you don't have many machines in the field, have you? this question just out of curiosity. > Count this my strong vote against removal of packages that are > traditionally part of the base system. > > Helge /k > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --=20 > If you think sex is a pain in the ass, try a different position. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 My mail is GnuPG signed -- Unsigned ones are bogus -- http://www.gnupg.org/ Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --JgQwtEuHJzHdouWu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oYndM0BPTilkv0YRAhP/AJ0Q49uQaLlW0IR8DEmIuKv0SoJ3FQCgnGPb CkgkEW0i9XPwxNiwDdP4sa8= =BQTx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JgQwtEuHJzHdouWu-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 2:58:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from voi.aagh.net (pc1-hart4-0-cust168.mid.cable.ntl.com [62.254.84.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7730F37B404 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 02:58:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky by voi.aagh.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16qB8f-0002kY-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:58:45 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:58:45 +0000 From: Thomas Hurst To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020327105845.GA9999@voi.aagh.net> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> <200203270836.JAA29261@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200203270836.JAA29261@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Organization: Not much. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/4.5-PRERELEASE (i386) X-Uptime: 10:27AM up 96 days, 19:12, 3 users, load averages: 2.03, 2.05, 2.01 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Helge Oldach (helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) wrote: > Count this my strong vote against removal of packages that are > traditionally part of the base system. I hate sendmail with a passion. I use exim; hence it's just added bloat sitting in my rather full /usr. The existance of more up-to-date ports for a lot of what's in the base system means many people don't want any trace of them from the base system; e.g. Perl. Additionally, many parts of the base system are not required or wanted on simple systems; if I have a tiny 486 I want to turn into a firewall, I don't want to spend hours trimming down the base system to fit on it. I suggest we extend the package system to include the base system; then I can just do env PKG_DBDIR=/var/db/syspkg pkg_deinstall sendmail-6.6.6, and sysinstall can more easily NOT install things I don't want, without impacting users who do want them. Or maybe everyone who doesn't want to use sendmail should switch to NetBSD w/ syspkg :) -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - freaky@aagh.net - http://www.aagh.net/ - Lackland's Laws: (1) Never be first. (2) Never be last. (3) Never volunteer for anything To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 3:24:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sv07e.atm-tzs.kmjeuro.com (sv07e.atm-tzs.kmjeuro.com [193.81.94.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5293137B419 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 03:24:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by sv07e.atm-tzs.kmjeuro.com (8.11.5/8.11.4) id g2RBO9u50366 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:24:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from k.joch@kmjeuro.com) Received: from kmjeuro.com (adsl.sbg.kmjeuro.com [193.154.189.16]) (authenticated) by sv07e.atm-tzs.kmjeuro.com (8.11.5/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g2RBO1b50167 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:24:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from k.joch@kmjeuro.com) Message-ID: <3CA1ABF2.5000908@kmjeuro.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:24:34 +0100 From: "Karl M. Joch" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.6) Gecko/20011205 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD4.5->IPSEC<-FreeBSD 4.5 Samba 2.2.3a Subnet Browsing. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X--virus-scanner: scanned for Virus and dangerous attachments on sv07e.atm-tzs.kmjeuro.com (System Setup/Maintainance: http://www.ctseuro.com/) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i have a main net with a samba 2.2.3.a server and a subnet which is connected via ipsec to the main net. |FBSD 4.5 Firewall|----------ipsec--------|FBSD.4.5 Firewall| | | | | | | ---- main net 192.168.M.x ------ ------ subnet 192.168.S.x--- | | | | | | |FBSD4.5/Samba2.2.3a/WorkGroup MAIN| |FBSD4.5/Samba 2.2.3a| |WORKGROUP: SUBNET | everythink works great in the local subnets. furthermore access from M->S and S->M is working fine. but there is need that the MAIN net sees the workstations and the servers in the SUBNET. the SUBNET should not see the MAIN PCs in the browsing list. both samba servers are domain master, local master and wins server. ods level is at 65 to make sure they are the local masters. no Win server included. i set the debug level to 3 to see whats going on. the main server has the remote browse sync set to 192.168.S.255 (tried with the wins servers ip too). the subnet server has the entry remote announce = 192.168.M.x (also tried with the wins servers ip too). within 5 hours there is nothing in the browse list of the MAIN net, furthermore there is not one entry in the log files that MAIN tries to collect the SUBNETS browselist and not even an entry in the SUBNETS nmbd.log which says that the subnets server tries to announce the subnets workgroup to the main net. i searched the archives and rechecked everything: - valid guest account - firewall rules for tcp/udp 137,138,139 - smb.conf parameters it is not possible to use one of the samba servers as main wins server, because then the subnet would see the main net in the browse list too. furthermore when the line would be cutted in case of technical errors then the subnet would loos the wins server. this istallation will get additional 5 subnets where different combinations of seeing/not seeing subnets are neccecary. so i have to go with remote announce/remote browse sync. any clue what i miss? many thanks. -- -- Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Karl M. Joch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 5:25:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wit379119.student.utwente.nl (wit379119.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171BF37B41C for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 05:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by wit379119.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AB792545C; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:25:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:25:02 +0100 From: Niek Bergboer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nattting netbios Message-ID: <20020327142502.A83732@wit379119.student.utwente.nl> Reply-To: niek@bergboer.net References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Randy, On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 10:18:04AM -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > 4.5-stable host running win98se client under vmware > setup, can i tell netd to specifically redirect all netbios and other > windoze stuff to the natted private address port? If your sole goal is to forward NetBIOS traffic, so that hosts on either side can communicate and find each other in their Network Neighbourhood, have a look the the NBFW patch for Samba: http://nbfw.sourceforge.net/ Grtz, Niek -- "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." Edgar Allan Poe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 5:58:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.lambertfam.org (eqbsd.lambertfam.org [209.142.170.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A2F37B421 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 05:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.lambertfam.org (ool-18bde7b1.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.231.177]) by www.lambertfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B53D64C06 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:58:23 -0600 (CST) Received: by laptop.lambertfam.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5E6AF28B0E; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:58:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:58:22 -0500 From: Scott Lambert To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020327135822.GA10110@laptop.lambertfam.org> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> <200203270836.JAA29261@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> <20020327105845.GA9999@voi.aagh.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020327105845.GA9999@voi.aagh.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:58:45AM +0000, Thomas Hurst wrote: > * Helge Oldach (helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) wrote: > > > Count this my strong vote against removal of packages that are > > traditionally part of the base system. > > I suggest we extend the package system to include the base system; then > I can just do env PKG_DBDIR=/var/db/syspkg pkg_deinstall sendmail-6.6.6, > and sysinstall can more easily NOT install things I don't want, without > impacting users who do want them. Congratulations! You are the 1,000th person to volunteer to do this. When may we expect the patches? -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lambert@lambertfam.org http://www.lambertfam.org/~lambert/resume.html 3 years Sr. SysAdmin experience with FreeBSD in small & medium size ISPs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 6:31:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tgz.techgodz.com (mdsnwi13-vlan436-120.dsl.tds.net [66.222.30.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D1937B416 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonic (unknown [192.168.1.101]) by tgz.techgodz.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 87C035DA7 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:31:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002201c1d59c$0b1a6c20$6501a8c0@techgodz.com> From: "John" To: References: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:31:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm probably not one to get involved in the conversation at this point (it seems to have gone nearly off it's topic).. Pell Yeasah wrote: >I've noticed that there are, in fact, sendmail and bind ports -- does >anybody use them? if so, why, and do they interact poorly with their >src-contrib counterparts? If not, why are they there? Is there some >political struggle afoot to cleave these packages from the BSD sources >proper? Are these old, deprecated ports? I'm a *nix newbie. I ran into this the other day. Had my system completely up and running. (Internet gateway, NAT box, several other packages config'd successfully). Decided I wanted to install Bind9. I cvsup'd, and went in and installed Bind9 from ports. Config'd it according to the bind9 doc, and when I started named, naturally it started 8.2.4 (Free 4.4 Rel), rather than the 9.2.1.rc1 that I had installed. Now I've got Bind installed twice, and have no idea what's the best way to get it working properly. I'll have to bait friends over with beer and pizza to get them to help me fix :( Is there doc for the ports tree apps ANYWHERE that describes locations that things are installed to, or what config files are necessary, possibly even how to admin different apps when installed from the ports tree?? (Especially since it seems that when installed from ports, it doesn't install them in their default locations.. thus I have named in /usr/local/sbin, and /usr/sbin...) I'm a beginner, and my biggest help with my FreeBSD boxes is a linux guy, who keeps telling me "FreeBSD is F'Kd up. They do things screwey". My experiences with cvsup and installing from ports were excellent, until I ran into the Bind prob. Just my 2c. John Ricker To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 6:46:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.knology.net (user-24-214-63-14.knology.net [24.214.63.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55CA837B417 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:46:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27255 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2002 14:46:12 -0000 Received: from user-24-214-92-93.knology.net (HELO grumpy.dyndns.org) (24.214.92.93) by user-24-214-63-14.knology.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2002 14:46:12 -0000 Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2REkBB44832; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:46:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:46:11 -0600 From: David Kelly To: "Karl M. Joch" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD4.5->IPSEC<-FreeBSD 4.5 Samba 2.2.3a Subnet Browsing. Message-ID: <20020327084611.B44778@grumpy.dyndns.org> References: <3CA1ABF2.5000908@kmjeuro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3CA1ABF2.5000908@kmjeuro.com>; from k.joch@kmjeuro.com on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:24:34PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:24:34PM +0100, Karl M. Joch wrote: > Hi, > > i have a main net with a samba 2.2.3.a server and a subnet which is > connected via ipsec to the main net. > > |FBSD 4.5 Firewall|----------ipsec--------|FBSD.4.5 Firewall| > | | > | | > | | > ---- main net 192.168.M.x ------ ------ subnet 192.168.S.x--- > | | > | | > | | > |FBSD4.5/Samba2.2.3a/WorkGroup MAIN| |FBSD4.5/Samba 2.2.3a| > |WORKGROUP: SUBNET | > > > everythink works great in the local subnets. furthermore access from > M->S and S->M is working fine. but there is need that the MAIN net sees > the workstations and the servers in the SUBNET. the SUBNET should not > see the MAIN PCs in the browsing list. Its "on my list of things to do" to set up somethign similar to what you describe. So I haven't done this yet. But monitoring local network activity I see Windows systems broadcasting packets to the local net. Guessing that's how they find each other. If these broadcast packets don't cross the IPsec link then the two sides can't browse each other. My best guess. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 6:53: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moo.sysabend.org (moo.sysabend.org [63.86.88.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B19137B417 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:53:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F32E756F; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3491D8F; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:55:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:55:50 -0800 (PST) From: Jamie Bowden To: Daniel O'Connor Cc: paul , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dell inspiron 8000 freebsd -stable In-Reply-To: <1017202321.13285.0.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> Message-ID: Approved: yep X-representing: Only myself. X-badge: We don't need no stinking badges. X-obligatory-profanity: Fuck X-moo: Moo. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 27 Mar 2002, Daniel O'Connor wrote: :On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 14:57, paul wrote: :> DVD-ROM drive on inspiron 8000 doesn't work in freebsd -stable. I :> searched the mailing lists and found a work around to do an :> autoboot_delay="60" which after doing my dvdrom drive worked fine in FreeBSD :> 4.5 -release, however does not work in -stable. :> I get a..........acd0c:Device not configured. Any help would be greatly :> appreciated : :Recent commits to the ATA code have broken CDROM support.. : :Not sure if it has just been fixed yet. : :I'm in the same boat (well, I have the same laptop with a CD-ROM drive) My Latitude C810 was doing that. The answer was to run mergemaster and remake the devices with the updated /dev/MAKEDEV script. The device in question is: acd0: CD-RW at ata0-slave PIO4 Jamie Bowden -- "It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold" Hunter S Tolkien "Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur" Iain Bowen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 7: 7: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5C137B41B for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:06:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2RF6rw87907; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:06:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:06:52 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: John Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020327100652.A87868@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> <002201c1d59c$0b1a6c20$6501a8c0@techgodz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002201c1d59c$0b1a6c20$6501a8c0@techgodz.com>; from sephtin@techgodz.com on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:31:11AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Set named_enable="NO" in /etc/rc.conf. This will stop the default system bind from starting. You then should have a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d to start the correct bind. It's almost certainly there already, just prevented from running by the default system bind. On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:31:11AM -0600, John wrote: > I'm probably not one to get involved in the conversation at this point (it > seems to have gone nearly off it's topic).. > > Pell Yeasah wrote: > >I've noticed that there are, in fact, sendmail and bind ports -- does > >anybody use them? if so, why, and do they interact poorly with their > >src-contrib counterparts? If not, why are they there? Is there some > >political struggle afoot to cleave these packages from the BSD sources > >proper? Are these old, deprecated ports? > > I'm a *nix newbie. I ran into this the other day. Had my system completely > up and running. (Internet gateway, NAT box, several other packages config'd > successfully). Decided I wanted to install Bind9. > I cvsup'd, and went in and installed Bind9 from ports. > Config'd it according to the bind9 doc, and when I started named, naturally > it started 8.2.4 (Free 4.4 Rel), rather than the 9.2.1.rc1 that I had > installed. Now I've got Bind installed twice, and have no idea what's the > best way to get it working properly. > I'll have to bait friends over with beer and pizza to get them to help me > fix :( > > Is there doc for the ports tree apps ANYWHERE that describes locations that > things are installed to, or what config files are necessary, possibly even > how to admin different apps when installed from the ports tree?? > (Especially since it seems that when installed from ports, it doesn't > install them in their default locations.. thus I have named in > /usr/local/sbin, and /usr/sbin...) > I'm a beginner, and my biggest help with my FreeBSD boxes is a linux guy, > who keeps telling me "FreeBSD is F'Kd up. They do things screwey". > > My experiences with cvsup and installing from ports were excellent, until I > ran into the Bind prob. > > Just my 2c. > > John Ricker > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 7: 9:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bobo.thehutt.org (pcp709198pcs.alxndr01.va.comcast.net [68.49.240.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA04D37B416 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:09:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.3.13] (helo=nomad.thehutt.org ident=mailnull) by bobo.thehutt.org with esmtp (Exim 4.01) id 16qF3R-000FBh-00; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:09:37 -0500 Received: from jerry by nomad.thehutt.org with local (Exim 4.01) id 16qF3Q-0001l9-00; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:09:36 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:09:36 -0500 From: Jerry A! To: John Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020327150936.GA6621@nomad.thehutt.org> Reply-To: jerry@thehutt.org References: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> <002201c1d59c$0b1a6c20$6501a8c0@techgodz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002201c1d59c$0b1a6c20$6501a8c0@techgodz.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Organization: Broken Toys Unlimited Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:31:11AM -0600, John wrote: : : I'm a *nix newbie. I ran into this the other day. Had my system completely : up and running. (Internet gateway, NAT box, several other packages config'd : successfully). Decided I wanted to install Bind9. : I cvsup'd, and went in and installed Bind9 from ports. : Config'd it according to the bind9 doc, and when I started named, naturally : it started 8.2.4 (Free 4.4 Rel), rather than the 9.2.1.rc1 that I had : installed. Now I've got Bind installed twice, and have no idea what's the : best way to get it working properly. : I'll have to bait friends over with beer and pizza to get them to help me : fix :( You should have named installed twice. All ports by default install under the /usr/local hierarchy. See hier(7) for how the filesystems are laid out. You should also get used to reading through /etc/defaults/rc.conf and seeing what the default values are for various apps. Then you'll know what to set in /etc/rc.conf to override the defaults. See rc.conf(5) for more details. I shouldn't do this, but the quick answer to your question is to insert the following in your /etc/rc.conf. named_enable="YES" named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named" : Is there doc for the ports tree apps ANYWHERE that describes locations that : things are installed to, or what config files are necessary, possibly even : how to admin different apps when installed from the ports tree?? : (Especially since it seems that when installed from ports, it doesn't : install them in their default locations.. thus I have named in : /usr/local/sbin, and /usr/sbin...) Check out the ports(7) man page. It's chock full o' goodness. There you'll find a pointer to pkg_info(1) which is the program you'll use to see the contents of an installed package/port. Also, check out chapter 4 of the FreeBSD Handbook, "Installing Applications: Packages and Ports". : I'm a beginner, and my biggest help with my FreeBSD boxes is a linux guy, : who keeps telling me "FreeBSD is F'Kd up. They do things screwey". I can say the same thing about Linux. I can point out examples of inconsistencies ad infinitum. Having an attitude like that doesn't help. Point out that no two UNIX-like OS's have the exact same setups or behave exactly the same. When I was starting out on this stuff a long time ago, someone described this as "character" and "flavor". : My experiences with cvsup and installing from ports were excellent, until I : ran into the Bind prob. Well, I hope I helped somewhat and that you've got the groundwork for enjoying this stuff and making it work for you. --Jerry Open-Source software isn't a matter of life or death... ...It's much more important than that! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 7:11:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.amtmedia.com (amtmedia.com [199.175.106.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522C937B400 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mark by www.amtmedia.com with LOCAL id 16qF5H-000MFY-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:11:31 -0800 Subject: 4.5r core dumping, help debug please To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:11:31 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Mark Morley Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a new machine with dual Athtalon 1600MP processors on an Asus MB that acts as a mail server running Exim and processing 100K messages or more a day. When I first set it up a few days ago, it was panic'ing about every 8 hours. I suspected it might be the RAM so I removed the second stick of 512 megs. At that time I also rebuilt the kernel with debugging enabled. The system was fine for more than 72 hours straight, so I was really starting to think the RAM was it, but then this morning it did it again. This time I was able to run the debugger on it though. Here's the debugging output (snipped the junk). Can anyone tell me if this is hardware or software? su-2.05a# gdb -k kernel.debug /usr/crash/vmcore.0 [SNIP] This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... SMP 2 cpus IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x002f3000 initial pcb at physical address 0x0026d960 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode mp_lock = 00000002; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 fault virtual address = 0xbfa52a1c fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xbfa52a1c stack pointer = 0x10:0xff807ee0 frame pointer = 0x10:0xff807ef0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = bio <- SMP: XXX trap number = 12 panic: page fault mp_lock = 00000003; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 boot() called on cpu#0 Uptime: 3d7h47m39s dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 7274656 [SNIP] --- #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:474 474 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) where #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:474 #1 0xc0139c3b in boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:313 #2 0xc013a050 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02480d9, howto=-1071350865) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:582 #3 0xc021e20c in trap_fatal (frame=0xff807ca8, eva=48) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:956 #4 0xc021de9d in trap_pfault (frame=0xff807ca8, usermode=0, eva=48) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:849 #5 0xc021da3b in trap (frame={tf_fs = 24, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -1071112192, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -8356624, tf_isp = -8356652, tf_ebx = -1071253316, tf_edx = 1744879680, tf_ecx = 4, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071858011, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66050, tf_esp = -1041559552, tf_ss = 0}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:448 #6 0xc01cbea5 in acquire_lock (lk=0xc025f8bc) at machine/globals.h:114 #7 0xc01d042e in softdep_fsync_mountdev (vp=0xd653dcc0) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:3986 #8 0xc01d474e in ffs_fsync (ap=0xff807d70) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:134 #9 0xc01d3406 in ffs_sync (mp=0xc1eb1000, waitfor=2, cred=0xc1052900, p=0xc0282000) at vnode_if.h:558 #10 0xc0168e87 in sync (p=0xc0282000, uap=0x0) at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:547 #11 0xc01399ee in boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:234 #12 0xc013a050 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02480d9, howto=-1071350865) ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:582 #13 0xc021e20c in trap_fatal (frame=0xff807ea0, eva=3215272476) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:956 #14 0xc021de9d in trap_pfault (frame=0xff807ea0, usermode=0, eva=3215272476) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:849 #15 0xc021da3b in trap (frame={tf_fs = 24, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -8355996, tf_esi = 1, tf_ebp = -8356112, tf_isp = -8356148, tf_ebx = 28319, tf_edx = 17910, tf_ecx = -1055788560, tf_eax = 10409, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1079694820, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66182, tf_esp = -8356028, tf_ss = -1055789004}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:448 #16 0xbfa52a1c in ?? () #17 0xc018c27a in udp_input (m=0xc121d500, off=20, proto=17) at ../../netinet/udp_usrreq.c:230 #18 0xc01824d1 in ip_input (m=0xc121d500) at ../../netinet/ip_input.c:815 #19 0xc018252f in ipintr () at ../../netinet/ip_input.c:843 (kgdb) Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 7:16:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bobo.thehutt.org (pcp709198pcs.alxndr01.va.comcast.net [68.49.240.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544C937B41A for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:16:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.3.13] (helo=nomad.thehutt.org ident=mailnull) by bobo.thehutt.org with esmtp (Exim 4.01) id 16qFA2-000FBs-00; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:16:26 -0500 Received: from jerry by nomad.thehutt.org with local (Exim 4.01) id 16qFA1-0001n2-00; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:16:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:16:25 -0500 From: Jerry A! To: Michael Lucas Cc: John , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020327151625.GA6824@nomad.thehutt.org> Reply-To: jerry@thehutt.org References: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> <002201c1d59c$0b1a6c20$6501a8c0@techgodz.com> <20020327100652.A87868@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020327100652.A87868@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Organization: Broken Toys Unlimited Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:06:52AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: : Set named_enable="NO" in /etc/rc.conf. : : This will stop the default system bind from starting. : : You then should have a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d to start the : correct bind. It's almost certainly there already, just prevented : from running by the default system bind. Actually, the current version of the bind9 port doesn't install any startup files in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. I believe that the expected behavior is to set "named_program" in /etc/rc.conf. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, if I'm giving out mis-information, I'd like to remedy that. --Jerry Open-Source software isn't a matter of life or death... ...It's much more important than that! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 7:18:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.workbenelux.nl (smtp1.workbenelux.nl [212.203.8.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C577037B41A for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:18:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway.emaxx-marssteden.nl (unknown [212.203.6.11]) by smtp1.workbenelux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9689A1A7342; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 17:01:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (helo=spock.emaxx-marssteden.nl) by gateway.emaxx-marssteden.nl with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16qFBv-0003tH-00; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:18:23 +0100 Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed From: Pascal Hofstee To: John Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <002201c1d59c$0b1a6c20$6501a8c0@techgodz.com> References: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> <002201c1d59c$0b1a6c20$6501a8c0@techgodz.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Date: 27 Mar 2002 16:19:54 +0100 Message-Id: <1017242394.4607.14.camel@spock.emaxx-marssteden.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 15:31, John wrote: > Is there doc for the ports tree apps ANYWHERE that describes locations that > things are installed to, or what config files are necessary, possibly even > how to admin different apps when installed from the ports tree?? > (Especially since it seems that when installed from ports, it doesn't > install them in their default locations.. thus I have named in > /usr/local/sbin, and /usr/sbin...) > I'm a beginner, and my biggest help with my FreeBSD boxes is a linux guy, > who keeps telling me "FreeBSD is F'Kd up. They do things screwey". > > My experiences with cvsup and installing from ports were excellent, until I > ran into the Bind prob. I have no personal experience with installing Bind9 from ports. The usual tendency for ports though is they either install their things in /usr/local/* or /usr/X11R6/* in case USE_X_PREFIX is specified in the ports Makefile. In your case it's 100% certain that the /usr/local/* files are the Bind9 files ... with a rdnc.conf.sample put in /usr/local/etc/ (Documentation will be in /usr/local/share/doc/bind9) On default if you simply specify named_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf rc.network will start up your bind executable on system boot. If you check /etc/defaults/rc.conf you'll notice there are a few more named-related rc.conf variables you can set. One of these being named_program. I think if you would put the following line into your /etc/rc.conf would make FreeBSD start up your freshly installed Bind9 instead of the default bind8 that comes with your base-system. named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named" I think you will have to consult the Bind9-port's documentation as to where the port install of Bind9 will expect it's configuration. As i said above already .. i have not ever tried this myself. But according to my understanding of FreeBSD's rc and ports systems, this should at least answer your question on how to get FreeBSD to start up the new Bind9 ... and which files on your system will belong to which version of Bind. -- Pascal Hofstee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 7:42:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E05837B416 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2RFgm088210; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:42:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:42:48 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Jerry A! Cc: John , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020327104248.A88174@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> <002201c1d59c$0b1a6c20$6501a8c0@techgodz.com> <20020327100652.A87868@blackhelicopters.org> <20020327151625.GA6824@nomad.thehutt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020327151625.GA6824@nomad.thehutt.org>; from jerry@thehutt.org on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:16:25AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:16:25AM -0500, Jerry A! wrote: > Actually, the current version of the bind9 port doesn't install any > startup files in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. > > I believe that the expected behavior is to set "named_program" in > /etc/rc.conf. No, I believe you're correct. I haven't installed updated versions of BIND since 1997 or so, so my knowledge is just a wee bit dated. Sorry. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 7:49:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web11602.mail.yahoo.com (web11602.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB6C937B420 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:49:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.235.249.42] by web11602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:49:48 PST Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:49:48 -0800 (PST) From: Holt Grendal Subject: sendmail_enable NONE To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know when this will be MFC'd? I saw the patch a day or two ago but no MFC yet. Darn sendmail trash..shouldn't all of these things default to NO for being enabled anyway? Atleast I could have sworn thats how it was some time ago. Holt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 8:20:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.example.org (ANice-103-1-2-95.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.11.145.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD40E37B404 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 903 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Mar 2002 16:20:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 17:20:08 +0100 From: Marco Molteni To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: [PATCH] src/examples/cvsup/README Message-ID: <20020327172008.A866@cobweb.example.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline [BCCed to -stable] Hi all, I was used to stable-supfile used to track -stable and standard-supfile used to track -current. Since april 2001 this is no more the case, and standard-supfile tracks the branch it was originally pulled from. I don't want to go into a bikeshed painting contest, but I have a suggested modification to src/examples/cvsup/README that at least explains to the unawary what has changed. Feel free to edit to taste. thanks Marco --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="src::share::examples::cvsup::README.diff" --- README.old Wed Mar 27 16:51:02 2002 +++ README Wed Mar 27 17:11:42 2002 @@ -5,6 +5,17 @@ with CVSup version 14.0 or later. For general information on CVSup itself, please see http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cvsup.html +WARNING: There are two "standard-supfile". Keep reading for details. + +Since april 2001, "standard-supfile" defaults to the branch from which +the file came. So if you pull down RELENG_4 it defaults to RELENG_4, +if you pull down -current it defaults to -current. + +An easy way to get the latest "standard-supfile" for the branch you are +interested in is to browse the CVS web interface at +http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile + + To maintain the sources for the FreeBSD-current release, use: standard-supfile Main source tree @@ -14,6 +25,10 @@ To maintain the sources for the FreeBSD-stable release, use: stable-supfile Main source tree + + or + + standard-supfile Main source tree To maintain a copy of the CVS repository containing all versions of FreeBSD, use: --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 8:53: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kottan-labs.bgsu.edu (kottan-labs.bgsu.edu [129.1.148.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C43337B41B for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5284 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2002 11:55:59 -0500 Received: from raoul.bgsu.edu (HELO gmx.net) (129.1.148.16) by kottan-labs.bgsu.edu with SMTP; 27 Mar 2002 11:55:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3CA1F99B.9030009@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:55:55 -0500 From: Raoul Schroeder User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Helge Oldach , FreeBSD stable Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed References: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > >Because they don't ...stay unused. It's just convenient to have a >standard, well- and widely-known piece of software around. You may not >like it but both Sendmail and BIND are the de facto standards. Period. > Isn't that an argument that Microsoft normally uses..? *ducks* I don't mind sendmail being the default, what I do mind is that after every upgrade I need to find the new sendmail binary, delete it, and point a link towards the qmail sendmail binary. If all stayed in the same place, then there would be no problem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 8:55:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from us.net (smtp1.one.net [216.23.22.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B33A837B41C for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 6967 invoked by uid 0); 27 Mar 2002 16:54:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shell.one.net) (206.112.192.106) by smtp1.one.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2002 16:54:42 -0000 Received: (from cokane@localhost) by shell.one.net (8.11.6/8.9.3) id g2RGsg000981; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:54:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:54:42 -0500 From: Coleman Kane To: Holt Grendal Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE Message-ID: <20020327115442.C27253@shell.one.net> References: <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com>; from holtor@yahoo.com on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 07:49:48AM -0800 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.12 i686 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I agree with this, as a user of qmail I really dislike having to forcibly disable all sendmail daemons by hand (I think the count is up to four). It would be nice if NO_SENDMAIL in the make.conf would translate over when building etc/defaults/rc.conf. -- coleman Thus spoke Holt Grendal , and it was proclaimed: > Does anyone know when this will be MFC'd? > > I saw the patch a day or two ago but no MFC yet. > > Darn sendmail trash..shouldn't all of these > things default to NO for being enabled anyway? > > Atleast I could have sworn thats how it was some > time ago. > > Holt > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards? > http://movies.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 8:58: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from radix.cryptio.net (radix.cryptio.net [199.181.107.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D614B37B400 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from emechler@localhost) by radix.cryptio.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2RGvgo94292; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:57:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from emechler) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:57:42 -0800 From: Erick Mechler To: Raoul Schroeder Cc: Helge Oldach , FreeBSD stable Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020327085742.L74681@techometer.net> References: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> <3CA1F99B.9030009@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3CA1F99B.9030009@gmx.net>; from Raoul Schroeder on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 11:55:55AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: I don't mind sendmail being the default, what I do mind is that after :: every upgrade I need to find the new sendmail binary, delete it, and :: point a link towards the qmail sendmail binary. :: If all stayed in the same place, then there would be no problem. Or you could investigate mailwrapper(8) and mailer.conf(5) which would solve your problems, I do believe. Cheers - Erick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 9: 2: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from symbion.srrc.usda.gov (symbion.srrc.usda.gov [199.133.86.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D343E37B404 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by symbion.srrc.usda.gov (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2RH1wJ8022243 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:01:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from glenn@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov) Received: (from glenn@localhost) by node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2RH1wKo022242 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:01:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:01:58 -0600 From: Glenn Johnson To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: genericstable does not work with sendmail 8.12 Message-ID: <20020327170158.GA22214@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I upgraded my -stable system yesterday with the new sendmail. The genericstable.db is no longer being processed for outgoing mail. Here is a copy of my '.mc' file. Thanks. =================================== divert(-1) # # Copyright (c) 1983 Eric P. Allman # Copyright (c) 1988, 1993 # The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. # # Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without # modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions # are met: # 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright # notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. # 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright # notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the # documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. # 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software # must display the following acknowledgement: # This product includes software developed by the University of # California, Berkeley and its contributors. # 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors # may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software # without specific prior written permission. # # THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND # ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE # IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE # ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE # FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL # DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS # OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) # HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT # LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY # OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF # SUCH DAMAGE. # # # This is a generic configuration file for FreeBSD 4.X and later systems. # If you want to customize it, copy it to a name appropriate for your # environment and do the modifications there. # # The best documentation for this .mc file is: # /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README or # /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README # divert(0) VERSIONID(`$FreeBSD: src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc,v 1.10.2.14 2002/03/25 21:53:35 gshapiro Exp $') OSTYPE(freebsd4) DOMAIN(generic) FEATURE(access_db, `hash -o -T /etc/mail/access') FEATURE(blacklist_recipients) FEATURE(local_lmtp) FEATURE(mailertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable') FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable') dnl Uncomment to allow relaying based on your MX records. dnl NOTE: This can allow sites to use your server as a backup MX without dnl your permission. dnl FEATURE(relay_based_on_MX) dnl DNS based black hole lists dnl -------------------------------- dnl DNS based black hole lists come and up on a regular basis dnl do this file will not serve as a database of the available servers. dnl For that, visit http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Abuse/Spam/Blacklists/ dnl Uncomment to activate Realtime Blackhole List dnl information available at http://www.mail-abuse.com/ dnl NOTE: This is a subscription service as of July 31, 2001 dnl FEATURE(dnsbl) dnl Alternatively, you can provide your own server and rejection message: dnl FEATURE(dnsbl, `blackholes.mail-abuse.org', `"550 Mail from " $&{client_addr} " rejected, see http://mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/lookup?" $&{client_addr}') dnl Dialup users should uncomment and define this appropriately dnl define(`SMART_HOST', `your.isp.mail.server') dnl Uncomment the first line to change the location of the default dnl /etc/mail/local-host-names and comment out the second line. dnl define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw') define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/local-host-names') dnl Uncomment both of the following lines to listen on IPv6 as well as IPv4 dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv4, Family=inet') dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv6, Family=inet6') define(`confMAX_MIME_HEADER_LENGTH', `256/128') define(`confNO_RCPT_ACTION', `add-to-undisclosed') define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,noexpn,novrfy') # My additions define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', `symbion.srrc.usda.gov') FEATURE(genericstable, `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable') FEATURE(local_procmail) FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope') MASQUERADE_AS(`srrc.ars.usda.gov') MAILER(procmail) # these were from the original MAILER(smtp) MAILER(local) =================================== -- Glenn Johnson USDA, ARS, SRRC Phone: (504) 286-4252 New Orleans, LA 70124 e-mail: gjohnson@srrc.ars.usda.gov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 9:12:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.firstcallgroup.co.uk (dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk [194.200.93.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6A137B41C for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from pfrench by mailhost.firstcallgroup.co.uk with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16qGyG-000DH2-00; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 17:12:24 +0000 To: helge.oldach@atosorigin.com, memphis_ms@gmx.net, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed In-Reply-To: <3CA1F99B.9030009@gmx.net> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 17:12:24 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I don't mind sendmail being the default, what I do mind is that after > every upgrade I need to find the new sendmail binary, delete it, and > point a link towards the qmail sendmail binary. Err - mailwrapper ? I hate sendmail too, my /etc/mail/mailer.conf looks like this: sendmail /usr/local/sbin/exim send-mail /usr/local/sbin/exim mailq /usr/local/sbin/exim newaliases /usr/local/sbin/exim ...and it all "just works" when I upgrade. No hassle. > If all stayed in the same place, then there would be no problem. Methinks you are making it hard for yourself for some reason. -pcf. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 9:45:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proton.hexanet.fr (proton.hexanet.fr [194.98.140.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8AD37B405 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from hexanet.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proton.hexanet.fr (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2RHjnh02643; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:45:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:45:49 +0100 From: Christophe =?ISO-8859-1?B?UHLpdm90YXV4?= To: Per olof Ljungmark Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP with VIA chipset system lockups Message-Id: <20020327184549.12f7d4dc.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> In-Reply-To: <200203261720.g2QHKoU98819@dns2.s.bonet.se> References: <200203261720.g2QHKoU98819@dns2.s.bonet.se> Organization: HEXANET Sarl X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) X-NCC-RegID: fr.hexanet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a similar problem with a ASUS CUV4X-DLS Dual CPU motherboard it is using VIA CHIPSET as well and I have lockups , the system freezes but I am still able to ping the machine this is very strange , however nothing else works I have no problems running these machine in single CPU mode but when I run SMP it does have freezing problems On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:28:04 +0100 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > I have been running a dual processor machine for about three months. It is > based on a Microstar 694 motherboard with VIA chipsets (see attached). > > I started with 4.4-stable and went through 4.5RC to 4.5 stable. Since a > couple of weeks or so (don't know exactly) I'm having regular lockups with > SMP kernels. and because the system freezes completely I see no traces as to > what is going on. The only way to recover is to pull the plug. > > I would be most grateful for information on a) how to try to find out what is > happening and b) if anybody else have similar problems. > > Same machine with GENERIC kernel do not exhibit any problems. GENERIC is not using SMP > > Thanks, > -- =============================================================== Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ Z.A.C Les Charmilles Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 3 Allée Thierry Sabine Direct: +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 BP202 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 51686 Reims Cedex 2 FRANCE HEXANET Network Operation Center =============================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 9:46:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proton.hexanet.fr (proton.hexanet.fr [194.98.140.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D29F37B430 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from hexanet.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proton.hexanet.fr (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2RHkKh02648; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:46:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:46:20 +0100 From: Christophe =?ISO-8859-1?B?UHLpdm90YXV4?= To: Per olof Ljungmark Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP with VIA chipset system lockups Message-Id: <20020327184620.29c5c67a.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> In-Reply-To: <200203261720.g2QHKoU98819@dns2.s.bonet.se> References: <200203261720.g2QHKoU98819@dns2.s.bonet.se> Organization: HEXANET Sarl X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) X-NCC-RegID: fr.hexanet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I forgot to mention I am using RELENG_4 On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:28:04 +0100 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > I have been running a dual processor machine for about three months. It is > based on a Microstar 694 motherboard with VIA chipsets (see attached). > > I started with 4.4-stable and went through 4.5RC to 4.5 stable. Since a > couple of weeks or so (don't know exactly) I'm having regular lockups with > SMP kernels. and because the system freezes completely I see no traces as to > what is going on. The only way to recover is to pull the plug. > > I would be most grateful for information on a) how to try to find out what is > happening and b) if anybody else have similar problems. > > Same machine with GENERIC kernel do not exhibit any problems. > > Thanks, > -- =============================================================== Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ Z.A.C Les Charmilles Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 3 Allée Thierry Sabine Direct: +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 BP202 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 51686 Reims Cedex 2 FRANCE HEXANET Network Operation Center =============================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 9:50:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mikea.ath.cx (okc-65-30-192-11.mmcable.com [65.30.192.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3A537B405 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:50:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mikea@localhost) by mikea.ath.cx (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g2RHokW71111 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:50:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mikea) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:50:46 -0600 From: mikea To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP with VIA chipset system lockups Message-ID: <20020327115046.A71084@mikea.ath.cx> Mail-Followup-To: mikea , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200203261720.g2QHKoU98819@dns2.s.bonet.se> <20020327184549.12f7d4dc.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020327184549.12f7d4dc.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr>; from c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 06:45:49PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 06:45:49PM +0100, Christophe Prévotaux wrote: > I have a similar problem with a ASUS CUV4X-DLS > Dual CPU motherboard it is using VIA CHIPSET > as well and I have lockups , the system > freezes but I am still able to ping the machine > this is very strange , however nothing else works > > I have no problems running these machine in single > CPU mode but when I run SMP it does have freezing > problems > > On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:28:04 +0100 > Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > > I have been running a dual processor machine for about three months. It is > > based on a Microstar 694 motherboard with VIA chipsets (see attached). > > > > I started with 4.4-stable and went through 4.5RC to 4.5 stable. Since a > > couple of weeks or so (don't know exactly) I'm having regular lockups with > > SMP kernels. and because the system freezes completely I see no traces as to > > what is going on. The only way to recover is to pull the plug. > > > > I would be most grateful for information on a) how to try to find out what is > > happening and b) if anybody else have similar problems. > > > > Same machine with GENERIC kernel do not exhibit any problems. > > > GENERIC is not using SMP Responding to ping means that _something_ is alive, deep down inside the IP stack. Have you tried to telnet in? I just ordered a TYAN Tiger 2505 last night; I'll put it in over the weekend and see what happens with it. IIRC, it also uses the VIA chipset. I tend to run one copy of Setiathome per processor, and so the processors are never really idle. -- Mike Andrews mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin since 1964 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 10:11: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trigger.net (ns.trigger.net [204.50.18.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E139837B417 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:10:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mike (wettoast.org [204.50.18.204]) by mail.trigger.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C9E9330935; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:10:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Jakubik" To: "Thomas Hurst" , Subject: RE: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:10:38 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20020327105845.GA9999@voi.aagh.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I totally agree with you. Many programs that are integrated by default into FreeBSD change much more often than FreeBSD does, OpenSSH being a good example. Many people also dislike whats integrated i.e. sendmail (i personally use postfix, cant stand sendmail). I would love to see a bare FreeBSD install that stayed that way when updating via cvs. Perhaps an option in the installation, that would also change the necessary configurations to keep programs like sendmail out. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Thomas Hurst Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:59 AM To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed * Helge Oldach (helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) wrote: > Count this my strong vote against removal of packages that are > traditionally part of the base system. I hate sendmail with a passion. I use exim; hence it's just added bloat sitting in my rather full /usr. The existance of more up-to-date ports for a lot of what's in the base system means many people don't want any trace of them from the base system; e.g. Perl. Additionally, many parts of the base system are not required or wanted on simple systems; if I have a tiny 486 I want to turn into a firewall, I don't want to spend hours trimming down the base system to fit on it. I suggest we extend the package system to include the base system; then I can just do env PKG_DBDIR=/var/db/syspkg pkg_deinstall sendmail-6.6.6, and sysinstall can more easily NOT install things I don't want, without impacting users who do want them. Or maybe everyone who doesn't want to use sendmail should switch to NetBSD w/ syspkg :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 10:16:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [216.47.253.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8CE37B416 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:16:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from admin0 (admin0.westbend.net [216.47.253.17]) by mail.westbend.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RIGaD08188 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:16:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <000c01c1d5bb$38e336e0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: References: <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> <20020327115442.C27253@shell.one.net> Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:14:22 -0600 Organization: West Bend Interent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Coleman Kane" > I agree with this, as a user of qmail I really dislike having to forcibly > disable all sendmail daemons by hand (I think the count is up to four). It > would be nice if NO_SENDMAIL in the make.conf would translate over when > building etc/defaults/rc.conf. > > -- > coleman > > Thus spoke Holt Grendal , and it was proclaimed: > > > Does anyone know when this will be MFC'd? > > > > I saw the patch a day or two ago but no MFC yet. > > > > Darn sendmail trash..shouldn't all of these > > things default to NO for being enabled anyway? > > > > Atleast I could have sworn thats how it was some > > time ago. > > I don't even know why people are making such an issue out of this, as all that is required is to properly configure /etc/mailer.conf for your MTA, and then set /etc/rc.conf up properly: sendmail_enable=YES sendmail_flags="-bd -q30m" # Change to the old default MTA flags or flags for specific MTA sendmail_outbound_enable=NO sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO sendmail_submit_enable=NO Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 10:19:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE8137B417 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g2RIJ9E10943; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:19:09 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:19:09 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Mike Jakubik Cc: Thomas Hurst , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020327101909.A10187@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20020327105845.GA9999@voi.aagh.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from mikej@trigger.net on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:10:38PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:10:38PM -0500, Mike Jakubik wrote: >=20 > I totally agree with you. Many programs that are integrated by default in= to > FreeBSD change much more often than FreeBSD does, OpenSSH being a good > example. Many people also dislike whats integrated i.e. sendmail (i > personally use postfix, cant stand sendmail). I would love to see a bare > FreeBSD install that stayed that way when updating via cvs. Perhaps an > option in the installation, that would also change the necessary > configurations to keep programs like sendmail out. If you'd like to do something other then pointlessly bitch and moan about the situation, head on over to the libh project which aims to=20 create a new installer and packaging system that together with the NetBSD /etc/rc.d system might someday allow this. Join the mailing list and find something useful to do. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8og0dXY6L6fI4GtQRAvbNAJ9cWHi6QHGTTu3W7i014Udz8vfgvACgh/mq ck01oCUgfj465hViw8hpYGw= =c3rn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 10:22: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD8B37B417 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2RILvGd031034 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2RILvrJ031031; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:21:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15522.3525.98317.836973@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:21:57 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Glenn Johnson Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: genericstable does not work with sendmail 8.12 In-Reply-To: <20020327170158.GA22214@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> References: <20020327170158.GA22214@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG gjohnson> I upgraded my -stable system yesterday with the new sendmail. The gjohnson> genericstable.db is no longer being processed for outgoing gjohnson> mail. Here is a copy of my '.mc' file. gjohnson> FEATURE(genericstable, `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable') Remove the "-o" which makes the map optional. Make sure your genericstable contains unqualified usernames for local submission or they are qualified with the local hostname. If you need more assistance, contact sendmail-questions@sendmail.org with your .mc and an example entry from your genericstable that isn't working. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 10:31: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proton.hexanet.fr (proton.hexanet.fr [194.98.140.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834C837B42B for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from hexanet.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proton.hexanet.fr (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2RIU8h02852; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:30:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:30:08 +0100 From: Christophe =?ISO-8859-1?B?UHLpdm90YXV4?= To: mikea Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP with VIA chipset system lockups Message-Id: <20020327193008.7727280b.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> In-Reply-To: <20020327115046.A71084@mikea.ath.cx> References: <200203261720.g2QHKoU98819@dns2.s.bonet.se> <20020327184549.12f7d4dc.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> <20020327115046.A71084@mikea.ath.cx> Organization: HEXANET Sarl X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) X-NCC-RegID: fr.hexanet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes I tried telnet it is not working plus all telnet session previously opened are frozen On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:50:46 -0600 mikea wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 06:45:49PM +0100, Christophe Prévotaux wrote: > > I have a similar problem with a ASUS CUV4X-DLS > > Dual CPU motherboard it is using VIA CHIPSET > > as well and I have lockups , the system > > freezes but I am still able to ping the machine > > this is very strange , however nothing else works > > > > I have no problems running these machine in single > > CPU mode but when I run SMP it does have freezing > > problems > > > > On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:28:04 +0100 > > Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > > > > I have been running a dual processor machine for about three months. It is > > > based on a Microstar 694 motherboard with VIA chipsets (see attached). > > > > > > I started with 4.4-stable and went through 4.5RC to 4.5 stable. Since a > > > couple of weeks or so (don't know exactly) I'm having regular lockups with > > > SMP kernels. and because the system freezes completely I see no traces as to > > > what is going on. The only way to recover is to pull the plug. > > > > > > I would be most grateful for information on a) how to try to find out what is > > > happening and b) if anybody else have similar problems. > > > > > > Same machine with GENERIC kernel do not exhibit any problems. > > > > > > GENERIC is not using SMP > > Responding to ping means that _something_ is alive, deep down > inside the IP stack. Have you tried to telnet in? > > I just ordered a TYAN Tiger 2505 last night; I'll put it in over > the weekend and see what happens with it. IIRC, it also uses the > VIA chipset. I tend to run one copy of Setiathome per processor, > and so the processors are never really idle. > > -- > Mike Andrews > mikea@mikea.ath.cx > Tired old sysadmin since 1964 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- =============================================================== Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ Z.A.C Les Charmilles Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 3 Allée Thierry Sabine Direct: +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 BP202 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 51686 Reims Cedex 2 FRANCE HEXANET Network Operation Center =============================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 10:32:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D92B37B404 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:32:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 44109 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Mar 2002 18:32:42 -0000 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:32:42 +0100 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: David Kelly Cc: "Karl M. Joch" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD4.5->IPSEC<-FreeBSD 4.5 Samba 2.2.3a Subnet Browsing. Message-ID: <20020327193242.B43825@mail.webmonster.de> References: <3CA1ABF2.5000908@kmjeuro.com> <20020327084611.B44778@grumpy.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020327084611.B44778@grumpy.dyndns.org>; from dkelly@hiwaay.net on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:46:11AM -0600 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer X-Work-URL: http://www.ngenn.net/ X-Work-Address: nGENn GmbH, Schloss Kransberg, D-61250 Usingen-Kransberg, Germany X-Work-Phone: +49-6081-682-304 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Kelly(dkelly@hiwaay.net)@2002.03.27 08:46:11 +0000: > Its "on my list of things to do" to set up somethign similar to what you > describe. So I haven't done this yet. But monitoring local network > activity I see Windows systems broadcasting packets to the local net. > Guessing that's how they find each other. If these broadcast packets > don't cross the IPsec link then the two sides can't browse each other. > My best guess. a good way (well, the only one) to resolve that broadcast traffic problem is to use wins. there's a howto in the samba docs/examples somewhere. you just need a way to force clients to use the wins server when it's set up (dhcp provides a good centrally administered way of doing this) regards, /k --=20 > Hackers know all the right MOVs. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 My mail is GnuPG signed -- Unsigned ones are bogus -- http://www.gnupg.org/ Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8ohBJM0BPTilkv0YRAsSRAKCntjlEs/U2dqfoOaG2FXdqRPWscwCgjWRm dVQuOfjAVhYHxxR2XyQP8OI= =l5RT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LpQ9ahxlCli8rRTG-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 10:38:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from symbion.srrc.usda.gov (symbion.srrc.usda.gov [199.133.86.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7650837B416; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by symbion.srrc.usda.gov (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2RIcjbd023015; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:38:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from glenn@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov) Received: (from glenn@localhost) by node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2RIcjMM023014; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:38:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:38:45 -0600 From: Glenn Johnson To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: genericstable does not work with sendmail 8.12 Message-ID: <20020327183845.GA22931@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> References: <20020327170158.GA22214@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> <15522.3525.98317.836973@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15522.3525.98317.836973@horsey.gshapiro.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:21:57AM -0800, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > gjohnson> I upgraded my -stable system yesterday with the new > gjohnson> sendmail. The genericstable.db is no longer being processed > gjohnson> for outgoing mail. Here is a copy of my '.mc' file. > > gjohnson> FEATURE(genericstable, `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable') > > Remove the "-o" which makes the map optional. Make sure your > genericstable contains unqualified usernames for local submission or > they are qualified with the local hostname. According to man(8) makemap, the -o option is to append to an old file. -- Glenn Johnson USDA, ARS, SRRC Phone: (504) 286-4252 New Orleans, LA 70124 e-mail: gjohnson@srrc.ars.usda.gov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 10:40:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB7937B431 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:40:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2RIeSGd031279 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2RIeSQK031276; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:40:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15522.4636.310032.816695@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:40:28 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Glenn Johnson Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: genericstable does not work with sendmail 8.12 In-Reply-To: <20020327183845.GA22931@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> References: <20020327170158.GA22214@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> <15522.3525.98317.836973@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020327183845.GA22931@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG gjohnson> According to man(8) makemap, the -o option is to append to an old gjohnson> file. Yes, but that line is in the sendmail config, not on the makemap command line. From the sendmail docs: -o Indicates that this map is optional -- that is, if it cannot be opened, no error is pro- duced, and sendmail will behave as if the map existed but was empty. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 10:49:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F0E37B419 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:49:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from gauss ([65.96.190.131]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020327184932.TIEW1147.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@gauss> for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:49:32 +0000 Message-ID: <03a901c1d5c0$14af6280$0200a8c0@gauss> From: "Yeasah Pell" To: References: <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> <200203270836.JAA29261@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> <20020327105845.GA9999@voi.aagh.net> <20020327135822.GA10110@laptop.lambertfam.org> Subject: base system vs. packages Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:49:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:58:45AM +0000, Thomas Hurst wrote: > > I suggest we extend the package system to include the base system; then > > I can just do env PKG_DBDIR=/var/db/syspkg pkg_deinstall sendmail-6.6.6, > > and sysinstall can more easily NOT install things I don't want, without > > impacting users who do want them. > > Congratulations! You are the 1,000th person to volunteer to do this. > When may we expect the patches? You seem to be indicating that this is popularly held to be the right thing to do, but that nobody has the time to do it. Is this true? In any case, you evidently missed Thomas' signature from the above-quoted message... guess we won't have a volunteer here. ;-) /Yeasah >-- >Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - freaky@aagh.net - http://www.aagh.net/ >- >Lackland's Laws: >(1) Never be first. >(2) Never be last. >(3) Never volunteer for anything To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 11: 2:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9BFD37B41B for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 44640 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Mar 2002 19:03:04 -0000 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:03:04 +0100 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE Message-ID: <20020327200304.C43825@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> <20020327115442.C27253@shell.one.net> <000c01c1d5bb$38e336e0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DIOMP1UsTsWJauNi" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000c01c1d5bb$38e336e0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net>; from hetzels@westbend.net on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:14:22PM -0600 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer X-Work-URL: http://www.ngenn.net/ X-Work-Address: nGENn GmbH, Schloss Kransberg, D-61250 Usingen-Kransberg, Germany X-Work-Phone: +49-6081-682-304 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --DIOMP1UsTsWJauNi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scot W. Hetzel(hetzels@westbend.net)@2002.03.27 12:14:22 +0000: > I don't even know why people are making such an issue out of this, as all > that is required is to properly configure /etc/mailer.conf for your MTA, = and > then set /etc/rc.conf up properly: >=20 > sendmail_enable=3DYES > sendmail_flags=3D"-bd -q30m" # Change to the old default MTA flags or = flags > for specific MTA > sendmail_outbound_enable=3DNO > sendmail_msp_queue_enable=3DNO > sendmail_submit_enable=3DNO this still leaves the binaries in the filesystem. since the standard make wizardry does not include a "deinstall" target (like for example ports do) and teh /usr/src based software does not have per-directory mtree files or filelists (manifests) for installed files, removing the software installed by a standard make installword becomes really messy and not quite customizeable. the only alternative to this are the NO_* options, but when you just do a quick install from release media, the old binaries from the first installation will stay happily where they are. i'm not much into netbsd, and i still prefer freebsd for my everyday tasks, but the syspkg concept seems to make sense, though, at first glance in cvs it appears to be quite complex. btw, sendmail's make infrastructure on netbsd resides in the=20 gnusrc/gnu/sendmail tree ;-) /k --=20 > Did you know that there are 71.9 acres of nipple tissue in the U.S.? KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 My mail is GnuPG signed -- Unsigned ones are bogus -- http://www.gnupg.org/ Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --DIOMP1UsTsWJauNi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8ohdoM0BPTilkv0YRAibVAJ4or0EspTVXl5ijKC5ymG9Dlu72KgCeNPqj oU5ElYCOx2Zn3wpFIVdNIiU= =G45a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DIOMP1UsTsWJauNi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 11: 3:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from symbion.srrc.usda.gov (symbion.srrc.usda.gov [199.133.86.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3524D37B404; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by symbion.srrc.usda.gov (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2RJ36bd023187; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:03:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from glenn@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov) Received: (from glenn@localhost) by node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2RJ35dJ023186; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:03:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:03:05 -0600 From: Glenn Johnson To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: genericstable does not work with sendmail 8.12 Message-ID: <20020327190305.GA23057@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> References: <20020327170158.GA22214@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> <15522.3525.98317.836973@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020327183845.GA22931@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> <15522.4636.310032.816695@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15522.4636.310032.816695@horsey.gshapiro.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:40:28AM -0800, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > gjohnson> According to man(8) makemap, the -o option is to append to > gjohnson> an old file. > > Yes, but that line is in the sendmail config, not on the makemap > command line. From the sendmail docs: > > -o Indicates that this map is optional -- that is, if it cannot > be opened, no error is pro- duced, and sendmail will behave as > if the map existed but was empty. Sorry, my mistake. Where did you find this? I grepped through the /usr/share/sendmail/cf directory and did not find this information. Anyway, I tried it with removing the -o in the genericstable FEATURE but the genericstable lookups still do not work. They worked fine with sendmail 8.11 so obviously something has changed with the new version. I will pay a visit to sendmail.org now. Thanks for your help. -- Glenn Johnson USDA, ARS, SRRC Phone: (504) 286-4252 New Orleans, LA 70124 e-mail: gjohnson@srrc.ars.usda.gov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 11: 5:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9E337B400 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2RJ57Gd031649 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2RJ564b031646; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:05:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15522.6114.783250.588337@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:05:06 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Glenn Johnson Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: genericstable does not work with sendmail 8.12 In-Reply-To: <20020327190305.GA23057@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> References: <20020327170158.GA22214@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> <15522.3525.98317.836973@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020327183845.GA22931@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> <15522.4636.310032.816695@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020327190305.GA23057@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG gjohnson> Sorry, my mistake. Where did you find this? I grepped through the gjohnson> /usr/share/sendmail/cf directory and did not find this gjohnson> information. The sendmail docs are installed in /usr/share/doc/smm/08.sendmailop/. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 11:56:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from symbion.srrc.usda.gov (symbion.srrc.usda.gov [199.133.86.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC0437B422 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by symbion.srrc.usda.gov (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2RJu62t023892 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:56:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from glenn@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov) Received: (from glenn@localhost) by node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2RJu6Lw023891 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:56:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:56:06 -0600 From: Glenn Johnson To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: genericstable does not work with sendmail 8.12 - Solved Message-ID: <20020327195606.GA23737@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> References: <20020327170158.GA22214@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020327170158.GA22214@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 11:01:58AM -0600, Glenn Johnson wrote: > I upgraded my -stable system yesterday with the new sendmail. The > genericstable.db is no longer being processed for outgoing mail. This is for the archives in case someone else runs into this. I did a reread through /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README and found the following clue under the description of the genericstable FEATURE: Notice: if you use an MSP (as it is default starting with 8.12), the MTA will only receive qualified addresses from the MSP (as required by the RFCs). Hence you need to add your domain to class {G}. It turns out that I had to add the fully qualified host name of the machine in a GENERICS_DOMAIN macro, ie. GENERICS_DOMAIN(`fully.qualified.host.name') I guess I should have been doing this with previous versions of sendmail but it always worked before so I did not realize it. Thanks to those who tried to help with this. -- Glenn Johnson USDA, ARS, SRRC Phone: (504) 286-4252 New Orleans, LA 70124 e-mail: gjohnson@srrc.ars.usda.gov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 12: 3:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from us.net (newmail2.one.net [216.23.22.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BB8C37B41D for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11289 invoked by uid 0); 27 Mar 2002 20:02:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shell.one.net) (206.112.192.106) by newmail2.one.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 2002 20:02:13 -0000 Received: (from cokane@localhost) by shell.one.net (8.11.6/8.9.3) id g2RK2C407633; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:02:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:02:12 -0500 From: Coleman Kane To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Christophe_Pr=E9votaux?= Cc: mikea , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP with VIA chipset system lockups Message-ID: <20020327150212.A7514@shell.one.net> References: <200203261720.g2QHKoU98819@dns2.s.bonet.se> <20020327184549.12f7d4dc.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> <20020327115046.A71084@mikea.ath.cx> <20020327193008.7727280b.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20020327193008.7727280b.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr>; from c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 07:30:08PM +0100 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.12 i686 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To let you know: 2:49PM up 105 days, 5:29, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00 Uptime on a Tyan Tiger 230, dual VIA/PIII GTL+ system with dual onboard i82559's. I had some lockup trouble at one point, but that was because a power cable had fallen into a CPU fan. this is 4.2-R, btw. -- coleman Thus spoke Christophe Prévotaux , and it was proclaimed: > Yes I tried telnet it is not working > plus all telnet session previously opened > are frozen > > On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:50:46 -0600 > mikea wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 06:45:49PM +0100, Christophe Prévotaux wrote: > > > I have a similar problem with a ASUS CUV4X-DLS > > > Dual CPU motherboard it is using VIA CHIPSET > > > as well and I have lockups , the system > > > freezes but I am still able to ping the machine > > > this is very strange , however nothing else works > > > > > > I have no problems running these machine in single > > > CPU mode but when I run SMP it does have freezing > > > problems > > > > > > On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:28:04 +0100 > > > Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > > > > > > I have been running a dual processor machine for about three months. It is > > > > based on a Microstar 694 motherboard with VIA chipsets (see attached). > > > > > > > > I started with 4.4-stable and went through 4.5RC to 4.5 stable. Since a > > > > couple of weeks or so (don't know exactly) I'm having regular lockups with > > > > SMP kernels. and because the system freezes completely I see no traces as to > > > > what is going on. The only way to recover is to pull the plug. > > > > > > > > I would be most grateful for information on a) how to try to find out what is > > > > happening and b) if anybody else have similar problems. > > > > > > > > Same machine with GENERIC kernel do not exhibit any problems. > > > > > > > > > GENERIC is not using SMP > > > > Responding to ping means that _something_ is alive, deep down > > inside the IP stack. Have you tried to telnet in? > > > > I just ordered a TYAN Tiger 2505 last night; I'll put it in over > > the weekend and see what happens with it. IIRC, it also uses the > > VIA chipset. I tend to run one copy of Setiathome per processor, > > and so the processors are never really idle. > > > > -- > > Mike Andrews > > mikea@mikea.ath.cx > > Tired old sysadmin since 1964 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > =============================================================== > Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr > HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ > Z.A.C Les Charmilles Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 > 3 Allée Thierry Sabine Direct: +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 > BP202 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 > 51686 Reims Cedex 2 > FRANCE HEXANET Network Operation Center > =============================================================== > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 12: 4:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outboundx.mv.meer.net (outboundx.mv.meer.net [209.157.152.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963FD37B400 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:04:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.meer.net (mail.meer.net [209.157.152.14]) by outboundx.mv.meer.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RK41C81289 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:04:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from neville-neil.com ([209.157.133.226]) by mail.meer.net (8.12.2/8.12.1/meer) with ESMTP id g2RK44KQ004577 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:04:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203272004.g2RK44KQ004577@mail.meer.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Crash in netstat on 4.5? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:04:04 -0800 From: "George V. Neville-Neil" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Folks I'm working with the getaddrinfo(3) routine and some other common socket programming stuff (writing a very simple example server) and I was using netstat when the following happened: jchurch ? netstat Active Internet connections Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp4 0 0 localhost.domain *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 jchurch.domain *.* LISTEN udp4 0 0 localhost.ntp *.* udp4 0 0 jchurch.ntp *.* udp4 0 0 localhost.domain *.* udp4 0 0 jchurch.domain *.* Active UNIX domain sockets Address Type Recv-Q Send-Q Inode Conn Refs Nextref Addr Segmentation fault This seems bad. I'm going to head out to lunch an if y'all can tell me what else I need to tell you I can do that when I get back and then try to continue work. This is rather disquieting. Later, George -- George V. Neville-Neil gnn@neville-neil.com Neville-Neil Consulting www.neville-neil.com "Put a twenty dollar gold piece on my watch chain So you can let all the boys know I died standing pat." - St. James Infirmary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 12: 5:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9F837B423 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g2RK6C286143; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:06:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:06:12 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Bruce Campbell Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfs_fsync: not dirty error in 4.5-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020327120553.C85588-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> X-All-Your-Base: are belong to us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Bruce Campbell wrote: > The kernel was rebuilt with "maxusers 500" Uh. maxusers >256 has always caused crashes on my system. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 12:13:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6231A37B416 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g2RKEEg86225; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:14:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:14:14 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Aditya Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial console vs. serial terminal In-Reply-To: <20020327014305.GA81311@mighty.grot.org> Message-ID: <20020327120918.A85588-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> X-All-Your-Base: are belong to us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Aditya wrote: > I have 3 different types of motherboards running FreeBSD 4-STABLE all in > various states of cvsup but none older than 2 weeks ago. Using a null modem > cable from one of them I can connect to each of the serial ports and get a > login prompt as per what I have for ttyd0 in /etc/ttys: > > ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup on secure > > however, if I connect to them from a Cyclades T2000 terminal server using a > cat5 patch cable and a RJ45-DB9F modular adapter I can't type anything in but > I do see output (ie. from syslog). The most bizzare thing is if I reboot with: That sounds like the getty isn't coming up. It isn't complaining about cycling endlessly, is it? Also make sure you're using the right pinout on your cable; the Cyclades pins aren't the same as Cisco's. We usually custom-build them. > in /boot/loader.rc it works fine with the Cyclades...that is, booting up, I > see: > > sio0: type 16550A, console > > rather than: > > sio0: type 16550A > > So what is it about explictly setting sio0 to be the console that > changes the serial line discipline? Connecting with a regular null modem > cable seems to be unaffected in either case. It seems that your serial port(s) are locking up; the console output "wakes them up." Can you try connecting to the port with cu (in internal console, not serial) on the FreeBSD machine, ssh in to the TS2000 on the other, and talk between yourselves? AFAIK FreeBSD doesn't require carrier to be asserted for getty to wake up. If you hit a few times on the tty it should give you a login prompt. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 12:21:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smart.eusc.inter.net (smart.eusc.inter.net [213.73.101.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5E037B440 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:20:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from tc01-n70-167.de.inter.net ([213.73.70.167] helo=there) by smart.eusc.inter.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #3) id 16qJuX-00044c-00; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:20:45 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Matthias Schuendehuette Reply-To: msch@snafu.de Organization: Micro$oft-free Zone To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: MFC of ATA driver from -current Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:20:44 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: Soren Schmidt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I just (Mar 27, 20:00 UTC) did a 'make update' and built a new kernel... I still have problems with 'tagged queuing' with my . The kernel doesn't panic any more but tries 3 times and switches back to PIO-Mode: ad0: timeout waiting for READY ad0: invalidating queued requests - resetting ata0: resetting devices .. ad0: invalidating queued requests done ad0: no request for tag=0 ad0: invalidating queued requests ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting ad0: invalidating queued requests ata0: resetting devices .. ad0: invalidating queued requests done ad0: no request for tag=0 ad0: invalidating queued requests ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting ad0: invalidating queued requests ata0: resetting devices .. ad0: invalidating queued requests done ad0: no request for tag=0 ad0: invalidating queued requests ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting ad0: invalidating queued requests ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode ata0: resetting devices .. ad0: invalidating queued requests done After that, the disk works as expected. My Controller is: atapci0: port 0xd000-0xd00f at \ device 7.1 on pci0 atapci0: Correcting VIA config for southbridge data corruption bug ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ... and, of course, same problems under -current. Also with ATA_IMMEDIATE replacing ATA_WAIT_INTR. -- Ciao/BSD - Matthias Matthias Schuendehuette , Berlin (Germany) Powered by FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 12:21:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1E437B430 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:21:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2RKLci09863; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:21:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:21:38 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Doug White Cc: Bruce Campbell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfs_fsync: not dirty error in 4.5-RELEASE Message-ID: <20020327212138.B9745@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020327120553.C85588-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020327120553.C85588-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu>; from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:06:12PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:06:12PM -0800, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Bruce Campbell wrote: > > > The kernel was rebuilt with "maxusers 500" > > Uh. > > maxusers >256 has always caused crashes on my system. set maxusers to 0 and allow the kernel to autosize. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands We are FreeBSD. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be committed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 12:32: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from engmail.uwaterloo.ca (engmail.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.50.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E17037B405 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bruce@localhost) by engmail.uwaterloo.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RKVao10562; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:31:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:31:36 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Campbell To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Doug White , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfs_fsync: not dirty error in 4.5-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <20020327212138.B9745@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:06:12PM -0800, Doug White wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Bruce Campbell wrote: > > > > > The kernel was rebuilt with "maxusers 500" > > > > Uh. > > > > maxusers >256 has always caused crashes on my system. I have maxusers of 300 and 500 on 2 other systems, which have been up 253 days, and 109 days. I'll try changing it back anyway, if I get any more panics. Thanks for the suggestion. > set maxusers to 0 and allow the kernel to autosize. I do that on most of my FreeBSD systems, but on a few, I wanted to support 10,000 open files, and the default chosen by the kernel with 512MB memory was 7312 files. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 12:33:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (fw-rl0.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F14237B41A for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2RKX1114429; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:33:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <200203272033.g2RKX1114429@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: MFC of ATA driver from -current In-Reply-To: To: msch@snafu.de Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:33:00 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: sos@freebsd.dk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL94b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Matthias Schuendehuette wrote: > Hello, > > I just (Mar 27, 20:00 UTC) did a 'make update' and built a new kernel... > > I still have problems with 'tagged queuing' with my . > The kernel doesn't panic any more but tries 3 times and switches back > to PIO-Mode: Hmm, I'm still hunting for what this can be, I cannot reproduce it on semilar hardware here... I'll keep hunting, but I need more info or somebody with the problem and the time to experiment around... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 12:33:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CC237B41B for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2RKWxF09984; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:32:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:32:59 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Bruce Campbell Cc: Doug White , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfs_fsync: not dirty error in 4.5-RELEASE Message-ID: <20020327213259.B9923@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020327212138.B9745@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:31:36PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:31:36PM -0500, Bruce Campbell wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:06:12PM -0800, Doug White wrote: > > > On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Bruce Campbell wrote: > > > > > > > The kernel was rebuilt with "maxusers 500" > > > > > > Uh. > > > > > > maxusers >256 has always caused crashes on my system. > > I have maxusers of 300 and 500 on 2 other systems, which have been up 253 > days, and 109 days. I'll try changing it back anyway, if I get any more > panics. Thanks for the suggestion. > > > set maxusers to 0 and allow the kernel to autosize. > > I do that on most of my FreeBSD systems, but on a few, I wanted to support > 10,000 open files, and the default chosen by the kernel with 512MB memory > was 7312 files. OK. I suppose you might want to try to catch a panic dump if you can. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands We are FreeBSD. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be committed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 13: 4:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA88F37B400 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B851217B7 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2RL42X97120; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:04:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:04:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200203272104.g2RL42X97120@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Vivek Khera To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Expect buildworld instability (sendmail 8.12.2 MFC) Newsgroups: ml.freebsd.stable References: <15519.37768.192688.770945@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3C9F9C81.10203@meoqu.gank.org> X-Trace: lorax.kciLink.com 1017260861 27706 216.194.193.106 (27 Mar 2002 20:27:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: daemon@kciLink.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "CB" == Craig Boston writes: CB> Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: >> I'm about to begin the MFC of sendmail 8.12.2 into -STABLE. While I am >> doing the MFC, it's likely that a buildworld will fail. I'll post again >> when I'm done (expected to take about 15 to 20 minutes). >> CB> Question: How will this MFC (and the addition of the local submission CB> daemon into the rc scripts) affect those of us running postfix through CB> mailwrapper? Does something special need to be done in mailer.conf to CB> make sure both mail daemons don't end up running? When I update the postfix 1.1.6 port in the next few days, I'm going to add a package message that instructs people to do: sendmail_enable="YES" sendmail_flags="-bd" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" to start postfix as replaced by mailwrappers. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 13:18:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smart.eusc.inter.net (smart.eusc.inter.net [213.73.101.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C6637B41A for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:18:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from tc01-n71-033.de.inter.net ([213.73.71.33] helo=there) by smart.eusc.inter.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #3) id 16qKoR-0006dh-00; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:18:31 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Matthias Schuendehuette Reply-To: msch@snafu.de Organization: Micro$oft-free Zone To: sos@freebsd.dk Subject: Re: MFC of ATA driver from -current Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:18:31 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <200203272033.g2RKX1114429@freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <200203272033.g2RKX1114429@freebsd.dk> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Am Mittwoch, 27. März 2002 21:33 schrieben Sie: > Hmm, I'm still hunting for what this can be, I cannot reproduce it > on semilar hardware here... Umpf... doesn't sound good. > I'll keep hunting, but I need more info or somebody with the problem > and the time to experiment around... What info's do you need? You noticed my stack trace of the core dump last week? Besides: There are some free days ahead :-), maybe a chance to do a bit testing for you... -- Ciao/BSD - Matthias Matthias Schuendehuette , Berlin (Germany) Powered by FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 13:23:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mighty.grot.org (mighty.grot.org [204.182.56.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E0137B416 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mighty.grot.org (Postfix, from userid 515) id BA5C75E9F; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:23:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:23:29 -0800 From: Aditya To: Doug White Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial console vs. serial terminal Message-ID: <20020327212329.GA19556@mighty.grot.org> Reply-To: Aditya References: <20020327014305.GA81311@mighty.grot.org> <20020327120918.A85588-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020327120918.A85588-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> X-PGP-Key: http://www.grot.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x6405D8D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:14:14PM -0800, Doug White wrote: > > however, if I connect to them from a Cyclades T2000 terminal server using a > > cat5 patch cable and a RJ45-DB9F modular adapter I can't type anything in but > > I do see output (ie. from syslog). The most bizzare thing is if I reboot with: > > That sounds like the getty isn't coming up. It isn't complaining about > cycling endlessly, is it? it isn't complaining and getty is definitely coming up as I can take a stock db9-db9 null modem and interact fine... > Also make sure you're using the right pinout on your cable; the Cyclades > pins aren't the same as Cisco's. We usually custom-build them. This is probably part of the "problem" -- using a patch cable I'm using the following pinouts (essentially DCE), do you have a better set?: Pin # Signal Color 2 TxD Black - 3 RxD Yellow 5 Gnd Red > It seems that your serial port(s) are locking up; the console output > "wakes them up." Can you try connecting to the port with cu (in internal > console, not serial) on the FreeBSD machine, ssh in to the TS2000 on the > other, and talk between yourselves? yup, did that and when I type on either side I don't get a "local" echo but see the output on the "remote" side... > AFAIK FreeBSD doesn't require carrier to be asserted for getty to wake up. > If you hit a few times on the tty it should give you a login > prompt. It's not taking input, but if I set syslogd to send *.err to * and then use logger to syslog something, then it shows up... Thanks, Adi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 13:51:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E9D37B416 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (server-source-si02 [10.13.10.6]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g2RLpK0R027903 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GTNJDK00.TF6 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:51:20 -0800 Received: from bas-tyra.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.2.11]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GTNJDJ00.N0E; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:51:19 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:21:06 -0330 Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" From: Paul David Fardy In-Reply-To: <20020327095909.C35734@mail.webmonster.de> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeasah Pell: >>> The question is simply this: why are there large, complex, non-BSD >>> packages in src-contrib that are not critical to the running of many >>> types of systems, and not strictly a dependency of the system proper? Helge Oldach(helge.oldach@atosorigin.com)@2002.03.27 09:36:19 +0000: >> Because they always have been... >> ... >> This BSD thing is about tradition. "Alternative" software is what the >> word says: It's about re-inventing the wheel. This is the Linux spirit. I'd use "heritage" rather that tradition. Some recognition of heritage is due. After all, BIND *is* the *Berkeley* Internet Name Daemon and Sendmail was an important part of BSD <= 4.4BSD. But, while heritage may influence Sendmail's continued existence in contrib, isn't why it's stayed around--not directly anyway. On Wednesday, March 27, 2002, at 05:29 AM, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > wrong, it is called evolution, a natural way of things evolving which > does not stop just because somebody puts up a sign "this is bsd, we do > it this way since 1970 and it won't change in the future". this has > nothing to do with linux at all. it is also not about re-inventing the > wheel. you seem to mix up the terms "tradition" and "religion" here, > introducing an implicit amount of folklore, hoping that it will support > your nonexistant line of argumentation. I think you're going to far ascribing "religion" to Helge's "tradition". But I agree that "It's always been done that way." isn't a strong argument. > when it comes to tradition, i cannot remember a single freebsd > distribution which natively supports to be booted from tape. I don't think every version of BSD did either. And I would bet good money that *noone* has a tape loading FreeBSD dist. :-) But the point is well taken: there's got to be more to the argument than that, ... and there is... > to come back to your original thought, do you consider having sendmail > on a firewall a good thing[tm]? sell that to your customers and prove me > that you do this successfully. this, just as a sidenote. Actually, many people do use Sendmail on their firewalls. I've even done some consulting on just such a beast. And I'm not convinced that any other MTA is inherently safer. Sendmail gets the bulk of the abuse and still critical in keeping Internet mail going. > as another sidenote, nobody prevents you from building a package > yourself on a machine having a ports tree installed. But, then again, noone prevents you from # rm /usr/sbin/sendmail* either. Ultimately, it's not about tradition or heritage and it's not about evolution, either. The real argument for keeping them runs like this: Sendmail and BIND work. Sendmail and BIND remain in active development. And, most importantly, each is actively maintained by FreeBSD committers. Pulling them out of contrib is not evolution, but revolution. You'll have to convince freebsd-core that it's better for [who?] to maintain [what?] than to continue letting Greg Shapiro--who's FreeBSD work may even been supported by Sendmail, Inc. Greg's work, alone, is enough to keep it in contrib. Greg ensures that "it ain't broke, so don't fix it." It seems to me that most people are content, if not happy, with Sendmail. And I don't think it just those old farts that actually learned enough to know why "R$-!$+ $@$>Canonify2 $2<@$1.UUCP>" was very useful (and still be useful somewhere :-). Helge Oldach(helge.oldach@atosorigin.com)@2002.03.27 09:36:19 +0000: >> Count this my strong vote against removal of packages that are >> traditionally part of the base system. Count this my strong vote for keeping working contributed software just where it is. Paul -- PS Does anyone know where I can find a PCI/UNIBUS adapter? :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 14: 2:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mighty.grot.org (mighty.grot.org [204.182.56.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DA037B416 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:02:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by mighty.grot.org (Postfix, from userid 515) id 7E5185E9D; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:02:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:02:44 -0800 From: Aditya To: Doug White Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial console vs. serial terminal Message-ID: <20020327220244.GA22461@mighty.grot.org> Reply-To: Aditya References: <20020327014305.GA81311@mighty.grot.org> <20020327120918.A85588-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020327120918.A85588-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> X-PGP-Key: http://www.grot.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x6405D8D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:14:14PM -0800, Doug White wrote: > AFAIK FreeBSD doesn't require carrier to be asserted for getty to wake up. > If you hit a few times on the tty it should give you a login > prompt. According to section 15.2.2.2.2, "Port Names": http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serial.html Call-in ports are named /dev/ttydN where N is the port number, starting from zero. Generally, you use the call-in port for terminals. Call-in ports require that the serial line assert the data carrier detect (DCD) signal to work. which sounds like part of the problem I'm facing, and is in fact the problem! So here's the pinout I had to use on an RJ45-DB9F modular adapter to get serial connections between a Cyclades TS2000 and a PC running FreeBSD: Pinout for DB9 (PC-Style) Adapter Pin # Signal Color 1 DCD Orange 2 TxD Black - 3 RxD Yellow 5 Gnd Red Doug, thanks for the hint, Adi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 14:28:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from biliskner.great4.co.uk (biliskner.great4.co.uk [212.111.52.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE29737B419 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:28:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from antaeus (antaeus.topaz [172.22.1.76]) by biliskner.great4.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B458540B; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:29:36 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <005301c1d5de$a8735030$4c0116ac@antaeus> From: "Andrew Tulloch" To: Cc: References: <200203272033.g2RKX1114429@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: MFC of ATA driver from -current Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:28:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Soren, I believe you've already seen my panic when I enabled tags, I applied Ian Dowse's patch and that stopped the panic, but the kernel was unable to talk to the disk even when falling back to PIO and I was left with a mountroot prompt. I'm still able to test any patches you come up with on this machine. Thanks Andrew Andrew Tulloch Lead Web Developer Great4 Ltd Email : andrewt@great4.co.uk http://www.itv-f1.com http://www.bar.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Schuendehuette" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: Re: MFC of ATA driver from -current > Am Mittwoch, 27. März 2002 21:33 schrieben Sie: > > > Hmm, I'm still hunting for what this can be, I cannot reproduce it > > on semilar hardware here... > > Umpf... doesn't sound good. > > > I'll keep hunting, but I need more info or somebody with the problem > > and the time to experiment around... > > What info's do you need? You noticed my stack trace of the core dump > last week? > > Besides: There are some free days ahead :-), maybe a chance to do a bit > testing for you... > -- > Ciao/BSD - Matthias > > Matthias Schuendehuette , Berlin (Germany) > Powered by FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 14:31:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [216.47.253.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C0C37B400 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from admin0 (admin0.westbend.net [216.47.253.17]) by mail.westbend.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RMVND16757; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:31:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <008b01c1d5de$d3a5d0c0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: References: <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> <20020327115442.C27253@shell.one.net> <000c01c1d5bb$38e336e0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> <20020327200304.C43825@mail.webmonster.de> Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:29:14 -0600 Organization: West Bend Interent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" > Scot W. Hetzel(hetzels@westbend.net)@2002.03.27 12:14:22 +0000: >> I don't even know why people are making such an issue out of this, as all >> that is required is to properly configure /etc/mailer.conf for your MTA, and ^^^^^^^^^^^^ This should be /etc/mail/mailer.conf >> then set /etc/rc.conf up properly: >> >> sendmail_enable=YES >> sendmail_flags="-bd -q30m" # Change to the old default MTA flags or flags >> for specific MTA >> sendmail_outbound_enable=NO >> sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO >> sendmail_submit_enable=NO > > this still leaves the binaries in the filesystem. since the standard > make wizardry does not include a "deinstall" target (like for example > ports do) and teh /usr/src based software does not have per-directory > mtree files or filelists (manifests) for installed files, removing the > software installed by a standard make installword becomes really messy > and not quite customizeable. the only alternative to this are the NO_* > options, but when you just do a quick install from release media, the > old binaries from the first installation will stay happily where they > are. i'm not much into netbsd, and i still prefer freebsd for my > everyday tasks, but the syspkg concept seems to make sense, though, at > first glance in cvs it appears to be quite complex. Removing sendmail is not complex at all, just add NO_SENDMAIL to make.conf then remove /usr/libexec/sendmail/, /usr/share/sendmail/, /usr/lib/libmilter.a (8.12), and /usr/include/libmilter/ (8.12) from the system. Of course you would have to do this on each new system that is set up. As for these binaries (/usr/sbin/sendmail, /usr/bin/mailq, and /usr/bin/newaliases), they are normaly linked to the mailwrapper program. So just change /etc/mail/mailer.conf to your MTA, and they will work, without having to create links in the /usr/bin & /usr/sbin directories. NOTE: If NO_MAILWRAPPER is set in /etc/make.conf, then these files are linked to /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail instead. So make sure you don't have NO_MAILWRAPPER defined when building/installing from sources. Yes, it would be nice to have the base system as packages, but so far no one has submitted code for such a system for FreeBSD. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 14:49:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alicia.nttmcl.com (alicia.nttmcl.com [216.69.69.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C4237B416 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jj@localhost) by alicia.nttmcl.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2RMmqD10309 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:48:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:48:52 -0800 From: JJ Behrens To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [pdfardy@mac.com: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed] Message-ID: <20020327144852.A9505@alicia.nttmcl.com> Mail-Followup-To: JJ Behrens , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul, While I appreciate your opinion, I disagree. It seems to me that the base system should be the minimal subset of programs, etc. necessary for a FreeBSD system to function. If Greg Shapiro disagrees, I welcome him to speak for himself (in which case I'll retract my opinion). If I may be of any assistance in this endeavor, I volunteer--I have a knack for minimalism. Cheers, -jj -- X is a plot by Microsoft to slow down the open source world. ----- Forwarded message from Paul David Fardy ----- Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:21:06 -0330 Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" From: Paul David Fardy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Yeasah Pell: >>> The question is simply this: why are there large, complex, non-BSD >>> packages in src-contrib that are not critical to the running of many >>> types of systems, and not strictly a dependency of the system proper? Helge Oldach(helge.oldach@atosorigin.com)@2002.03.27 09:36:19 +0000: >> Because they always have been... >> ... >> This BSD thing is about tradition. "Alternative" software is what the >> word says: It's about re-inventing the wheel. This is the Linux spirit. I'd use "heritage" rather that tradition. Some recognition of heritage is due. After all, BIND *is* the *Berkeley* Internet Name Daemon and Sendmail was an important part of BSD <= 4.4BSD. But, while heritage may influence Sendmail's continued existence in contrib, isn't why it's stayed around--not directly anyway. On Wednesday, March 27, 2002, at 05:29 AM, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > wrong, it is called evolution, a natural way of things evolving which > does not stop just because somebody puts up a sign "this is bsd, we do > it this way since 1970 and it won't change in the future". this has > nothing to do with linux at all. it is also not about re-inventing the > wheel. you seem to mix up the terms "tradition" and "religion" here, > introducing an implicit amount of folklore, hoping that it will support > your nonexistant line of argumentation. I think you're going to far ascribing "religion" to Helge's "tradition". But I agree that "It's always been done that way." isn't a strong argument. > when it comes to tradition, i cannot remember a single freebsd > distribution which natively supports to be booted from tape. I don't think every version of BSD did either. And I would bet good money that *noone* has a tape loading FreeBSD dist. :-) But the point is well taken: there's got to be more to the argument than that, ... and there is... > to come back to your original thought, do you consider having sendmail > on a firewall a good thing[tm]? sell that to your customers and prove me > that you do this successfully. this, just as a sidenote. Actually, many people do use Sendmail on their firewalls. I've even done some consulting on just such a beast. And I'm not convinced that any other MTA is inherently safer. Sendmail gets the bulk of the abuse and still critical in keeping Internet mail going. > as another sidenote, nobody prevents you from building a package > yourself on a machine having a ports tree installed. But, then again, noone prevents you from # rm /usr/sbin/sendmail* either. Ultimately, it's not about tradition or heritage and it's not about evolution, either. The real argument for keeping them runs like this: Sendmail and BIND work. Sendmail and BIND remain in active development. And, most importantly, each is actively maintained by FreeBSD committers. Pulling them out of contrib is not evolution, but revolution. You'll have to convince freebsd-core that it's better for [who?] to maintain [what?] than to continue letting Greg Shapiro--who's FreeBSD work may even been supported by Sendmail, Inc. Greg's work, alone, is enough to keep it in contrib. Greg ensures that "it ain't broke, so don't fix it." It seems to me that most people are content, if not happy, with Sendmail. And I don't think it just those old farts that actually learned enough to know why "R$-!$+ $@$>Canonify2 $2<@$1.UUCP>" was very useful (and still be useful somewhere :-). Helge Oldach(helge.oldach@atosorigin.com)@2002.03.27 09:36:19 +0000: >> Count this my strong vote against removal of packages that are >> traditionally part of the base system. Count this my strong vote for keeping working contributed software just where it is. Paul -- PS Does anyone know where I can find a PCI/UNIBUS adapter? :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ----- End forwarded message ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 15:33:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEB637B419 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from gauss ([65.96.190.131]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020327233330.DFSJ1147.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@gauss>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:33:30 +0000 Message-ID: <059301c1d5e7$beec8da0$0200a8c0@gauss> From: "Yeasah Pell" To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , "Paul David Fardy" Cc: References: Subject: base system vs. packages Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:33:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul David Fardy" > Ultimately, it's not about tradition or heritage and it's not about > evolution, either. The real argument for keeping them runs like this: > Sendmail and BIND work. Sendmail and BIND remain in active development. > And, most importantly, each is actively maintained by FreeBSD committers. > > Pulling them out of contrib is not evolution, but revolution. You'll have > to convince freebsd-core that it's better for [who?] to maintain [what?] > than to continue letting Greg Shapiro--who's FreeBSD work may even been > supported by Sendmail, Inc. Greg's work, alone, is enough to keep it in > contrib. Greg ensures that "it ain't broke, so don't fix it." From this posting and others, I'm starting to get the impression that the real, underlying reason that sendmail and bind remain in src-contrib is that the maintainers are developing/maintaining at a rate that would make generating port patches and doing port versions prohibitively time consuming. I can definitely appreciate the strength of that argument. It would be possible (in principle) to have the ports system be able to pull source from a seperate FreeBSD src tree, instead of a distribution tarball and patches (maybe even directly from src-contrib). I wonder if there are other ports that are really pretty highly customized for FreeBSD that would work better as vendor branch CVS imports (like sendmail is, I presume). Has this been considered already? This could certainly help the ~50% packages in src-contrib that are duplicated in the ports tree, which I feel is a deplorable state of affairs. I guess that it would be appropriate to list what I feel are the advantages of moving these packages out of src-contrib: 1) It feels much more logical and consistent. This is roughly analagous in strength to the "tradition" or "heritage" argument for keeping them in src-contrib, so I figured I'd include it. 2) Security. The interests of system security dictates that you include as little as possible in a default system, and allow additional software to be added on *as needed*. 3) Management. I can pick a version, upgrade, downgrade, switch to a different but similar software package, and stop using the software altogether all without having to touch any other part of the system. 4) Insulation. People not using the software will not be affected by changes to the software, as recently happened with sendmail. 5) Cohesion. Some software lives in both src-contrib and ports (in fact about half of src-contrib, by my count). Having two sources for the same software has all sorts of problems. Bugs/security holes need to be fixed in two places. People get confused as to which software they are running, and under what circumstances. In extreme cases, both software packages could come into use in different contexts, and if they were divergent and incompatible versions... well, you get the point. (Some people have characterized this as adding "character" to the system, which boggles my mind.) The arguments that I've heard so far to keep them in src-contrib: 1) Tradition/heritage. It's part of BSD, and people expect it to be there. 2) They are in active FreeBSD-specific development (which isn't readily accomodated by the ports system as it stands) 3) We'd lose the contribution of Greg if sendmail was moved out of the core system. (Could this possibly be true?? I assume that Greg would eventually become involved in the discourse if it looked like something would actually happen, and his veto would definitely shut down the possibility of doing any of this. Some people are just That Important.) I'm sure I missed points on both sides. Comments? It also occurs to me that pro-port items 1, 2 and 4 could be at least partly accomplished with changes to the installer, as follows: * BIND, sendmail, and anything else in src that might fall on the other side of the razor are moved into a different distribution set for the installer, similar to the non-port XFree86. They could be selected by default -- the main idea is to allow a person to install FreeBSD from media without packages that aren't _logically_ part of the core system (heritage and tradition notwithstanding) * It'd definitely be nice if a skeleton make.conf was set up based on which distribution sets were selected during the install -- even if BIND and sendmail are never changed at all. This would mean somebody who installed a stripped down FreeBSD system wouldn't unexpectedly get all those packages when they started tracking a branch. Unfortunately, I don't know much about the installer or the generation of distribution sets, so I have no idea if that would be difficult or not. /Yeasah To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 16: 9:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rizzo.jerky.net (rizzo.jerky.net [204.57.55.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D128537B404 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotpop.com (burton.hotpop.com [204.57.55.31]) by rizzo.jerky.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3289F314D6 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 00:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hobbes (unknown [202.163.206.74]) by zagnut.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D333E50028; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 00:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <002701c1d5ec$f45517a0$4acea3ca@hobbes> From: "M-Trade" To: "Per olof Ljungmark" , "FreeBSD Stable" References: <200203261720.g2QHKoU98819@dns2.s.bonet.se> Subject: Re: SMP with VIA chipset system lockups Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:10:17 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm also using MSI 694D board. It seems that you connected the hard drive and the cd-drive to the 686B controller. I had big problems last time I did that (in SMP mode only). So I tried moving the hard drive to the on-board Promise controller and my problems went away. Hope this helps! David Ur ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per olof Ljungmark" To: "FreeBSD Stable" Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:28 AM Subject: SMP with VIA chipset system lockups > I have been running a dual processor machine for about three months. It is > based on a Microstar 694 motherboard with VIA chipsets (see attached). > > I started with 4.4-stable and went through 4.5RC to 4.5 stable. Since a > couple of weeks or so (don't know exactly) I'm having regular lockups with > SMP kernels. and because the system freezes completely I see no traces as to > what is going on. The only way to recover is to pull the plug. > > I would be most grateful for information on a) how to try to find out what is > happening and b) if anybody else have similar problems. > > Same machine with GENERIC kernel do not exhibit any problems. > > Thanks, > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 18:26:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outboundx.mv.meer.net (outboundx.mv.meer.net [209.157.152.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F06F37B417; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.meer.net (mail.meer.net [209.157.152.14]) by outboundx.mv.meer.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2S2QQC95076; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:26:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from neville-neil.com ([209.157.133.226]) by mail.meer.net (8.12.1/8.12.1/meer) with ESMTP id g2S2QRQf075729; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:26:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203280226.g2S2QRQf075729@mail.meer.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Crash in netstat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:26:26 -0800 From: "George V. Neville-Neil" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have submitted the following PR (bin/36400) against netstat. After I havestarted xdm and X11 (XFree86 4.2) on my machine I can no longer get information on LOCAL (i.e. UNIX) domain sockets because netstat seg faults. I have built a version with debugging and traced this down to the printf() call on line 149 of unix.c in -STABLE (the same line occurs in -CURRENT). It would seem that the xsocket data structure passed to printf causes it to barf. Has anyone else seen this? Thanks, George -- George V. Neville-Neil gnn@neville-neil.com Neville-Neil Consulting www.neville-neil.com "Put a twenty dollar gold piece on my watch chain So you can let all the boys know I died standing pat." - St. James Infirmary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 18:36:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hobbits.brel.com (hobbits.brel.com [203.127.231.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB47037B41A for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by hobbits.brel.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ECCD73309; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:36:12 +0800 (SGT) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:36:12 +0800 From: Calvin NG To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020328103612.A67280@brel.com> References: <20020327105845.GA9999@voi.aagh.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from mikej@trigger.net on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:10:38PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, Perhaps those who have a different perference then the choices made by the FreeBSD developers should read up on the various NO_xxx settings that are can be used in /etc/make.conf for the purpose to not building the software that you do not want. (and also prevent overwriting your favourite software that you choose to install in base) In addition, you can also choose add a refuse file in /usr/sup/src-all/ to NOT cvsup those sendmail/bind/kerberos/... source code that you do not intend to build anyway. Do be careful of dependencies though. With the above in consideration, removing sendmail/bind/whatever/.... is a one time effort, and it will stays that way. There are ways for you to customise your system, and ensure that it stays that way even when you upgrade (via cvsup). Regards, /calvin lines with :> are quotes from Mike Jakubik's email :> :> I totally agree with you. Many programs that are integrated by default into :> FreeBSD change much more often than FreeBSD does, OpenSSH being a good :> example. Many people also dislike whats integrated i.e. sendmail (i :> personally use postfix, cant stand sendmail). I would love to see a bare :> FreeBSD install that stayed that way when updating via cvs. Perhaps an :> option in the installation, that would also change the necessary :> configurations to keep programs like sendmail out. :> :> -----Original Message----- :> From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG :> [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Thomas Hurst :> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:59 AM :> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG :> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed :> :> :> * Helge Oldach (helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) wrote: :> :> > Count this my strong vote against removal of packages that are :> > traditionally part of the base system. :> :> I hate sendmail with a passion. I use exim; hence it's just added :> bloat sitting in my rather full /usr. :> :> The existance of more up-to-date ports for a lot of what's in the base :> system means many people don't want any trace of them from the base :> system; e.g. Perl. :> :> Additionally, many parts of the base system are not required or wanted :> on simple systems; if I have a tiny 486 I want to turn into a firewall, :> I don't want to spend hours trimming down the base system to fit on it. :> :> I suggest we extend the package system to include the base system; then :> I can just do env PKG_DBDIR=/var/db/syspkg pkg_deinstall sendmail-6.6.6, :> and sysinstall can more easily NOT install things I don't want, without :> impacting users who do want them. :> :> Or maybe everyone who doesn't want to use sendmail should switch to :> NetBSD w/ syspkg :) :> :> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 19:19:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f28.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3FD37B404 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:19:50 -0800 Received: from 67.32.217.219 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:19:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [67.32.217.219] From: "Roger Williams" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make world causes error Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:19:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Mar 2002 03:19:50.0548 (UTC) FILETIME=[6BD76D40:01C1D607] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am trying to update a new machine to the most recent version of freebsd. Im using a 4.2 cd as an intitial install (successful)and trying to upgrade using cvs. When I run make world, I get the error shown below. I do this all the time and have never seen this error. I posted a question on freebsd-questions and they suggested I post it here. Im not a member of the list (not competient enough to give advice) so if you could email me directly I would apreciate it. I worked past the smmsp issue, now I get this error. Am I doing something wrong? evX75-12/../../../../../contrib/groff/font/devX75-12/NI /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devX75-12/../../../../../contrib/groff/font/devX75-12/NB /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devX75-12/../../../../../contrib/groff/font/devX75-12/NBI /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devX75-12/../../../../../contrib/groff/font/devX75-12/S /usr/share/groff_font/devX75-12 ===> gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devascii Making R expr: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/font/devascii. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/font. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 19:25: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.lambertfam.org (eqbsd.lambertfam.org [209.142.170.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC6937B41A for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:24:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.lambertfam.org (ool-18bde7b1.dyn.optonline.net [24.189.231.177]) by www.lambertfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CB364C06 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:24:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by laptop.lambertfam.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B9CC928B0E; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:24:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:24:52 -0500 From: Scott Lambert To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020328032452.GB13004@laptop.lambertfam.org> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <3CA1F99B.9030009@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 05:12:24PM +0000, Pete French wrote: > > I don't mind sendmail being the default, what I do mind is that after > > every upgrade I need to find the new sendmail binary, delete it, and > > point a link towards the qmail sendmail binary. > > Err - mailwrapper ? I hate sendmail too, my /etc/mail/mailer.conf looks > like this: > > sendmail /usr/local/sbin/exim > send-mail /usr/local/sbin/exim > mailq /usr/local/sbin/exim > newaliases /usr/local/sbin/exim Except that with the rc.conf changes to sendmail_enable you now need to start your MTA from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/{qmail|postfix|exim|...}.sh or rc.local and setting sendmail_enable=NO rather than it just working once you fixup mailer.conf. I think this patch pretty much does away with the arguments that the sendmail_* rc.conf variables should be mta_* as it pretty much makes the knob useless for any other mailer with a sendmail compatible interface. I'm not complaining about it. I do like I'm supposed to and read FreeBSD-STABLE. :-) Now I know I have to do some extra work the next time I upgrade a -STABLE system. If I get bitten it's *my* fault. -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lambert@lambertfam.org http://www.lambertfam.org/~lambert/resume.html 3 years Sr. SysAdmin experience with FreeBSD in small & medium size ISPs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 20:14: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from stardust.latech.edu (stardust.LaTech.edu [138.47.18.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EDE37B416 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:14:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by stardust.latech.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2S4E0Y47321 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:14:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@coes.LaTech.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: stardust.latech.edu: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:14:00 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Schales X-X-Sender: dan@stardust.latech.edu To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfs_fsync: not dirty error in 4.5-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <20020327213259.B9923@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20020327221059.L45447-100000@stardust.latech.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Wilko Bulte wrote: > OK. I suppose you might want to try to catch a panic dump if you can. > I don't think it's the maxusers setting. I filed a PR on this last week, my maxusers was set to 0. The PR contains a back trace as well. I don't have the number handy. I am running 4.5-STABLE (early March) and have experienced this on three different systems. Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 20:14:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E4A37B404 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2S4Eii24611; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:14:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2S4Ehf24345; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:14:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:14:23 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20020327.211423.21874128.imp@village.org> To: blackout@islc.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dell inspiron 8000 freebsd -stable From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <004901c1d53f$552ca650$1fa531d8@saturated> References: <004901c1d53f$552ca650$1fa531d8@saturated> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <004901c1d53f$552ca650$1fa531d8@saturated> "paul" writes: : DVD-ROM drive on inspiron 8000 doesn't work in freebsd -stable. I : searched the mailing lists and found a work around to do an : autoboot_delay="60" which after doing my dvdrom drive worked fine in FreeBSD : 4.5 -release, however does not work in -stable. : I get a..........acd0c:Device not configured. Any help would be greatly : appreciated My DVD-ROM worked great up through FreeBSD-stable 4.5 as of when I upgraded to -current (so say sometime in late Janurary). I'm not sure what has changed since then. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 20:21:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [216.187.105.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474BC37B417 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483933F2D; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:21:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: DVL Software Limited To: Bjoern Fischer Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:21:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: cdrecord under 4.5-stable Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20020313180702.GA1761@frolic.no-support.loc> References: <20020313164933.685BC3F0E@bast.unixathome.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Mail message body Message-Id: <20020328042106.483933F2D@bast.unixathome.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 13 Mar 2002 at 19:07, Bjoern Fischer wrote: > Hello Dan, > > [...] > > # cdrecord -eject speed=3D12 dev=3D0,5,0 repo.raw > [...] > > Sense Bytes: F0 00 03 00 00 26 FB 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 09 00 00 00 00 > > Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 > > Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x09 (write error - loss of streaming) Fru 0x0 > > Loss of streaming means that the CDR internal I/O buffer had an > underflow. Probably there was some load on the machine, especially > I/O on the same disk, where 'repo.raw' came from. Hmmm, there isn't much on this box at all. It's pretty quiet. > You may try the fs option of cdrecord to set a larger fifo buffer size. > cdrecord locks the fifo buffer to prevent paging, so don't use too > excessive values. On a machine with 256MB RAM and a moderately loaded > 100MBit ethernet I use fs=3D24m when burning CDRs across the network. FWIW, over the weekend I went and bought some CDRW media and tried that. It worked. So tonight I tried a CDR, and it worked, albeit at a much slower speed than I am used to. I will slowly work my way up to my normal= speed. [root@xeon:/home/ftpbackup] # cdrecord -eject speed=3D4 dev=3D0,5,0 repo.r= aw Cdrecord 1.10 (i386-unknown-freebsd4.5) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 J=F6rg Schilling scsidev: '0,5,0' scsibus: 0 target: 5 lun: 0 Using libscg version 'schily-0.5' Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 2 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : SYNC LINKED Vendor_info : 'PLEXTOR ' Identifikation : 'CD-R PX-W124TS' Revision : '1.05' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in write mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in 0 seconds. Operation starts. Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 380272640/380272640 (185680 sectors). [root@xeon:/home/ftpbackup] # -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 21:20:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F88C37B41D for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16qSKi-0003oT-00; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:20:20 +0100 Received: from frolic.no-support.loc (520094253176-0001@[217.88.135.186]) by fmrl00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 16qSKZ-1FdI4eC; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:20:11 +0100 Received: (from bjoern@localhost) by frolic.no-support.loc (8.11.6/8.9.3) id g2S5J4k02677; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:19:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bjoern) From: Bjoern Fischer Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:19:04 +0100 To: Dan Langille Cc: Bjoern Fischer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cdrecord under 4.5-stable Message-ID: <20020328051904.GA2511@frolic.no-support.loc> References: <20020313164933.685BC3F0E@bast.unixathome.org> <20020328042106.483933F2D@bast.unixathome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20020328042106.483933F2D@bast.unixathome.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-Sender: 520094253176-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Dan, [...] > > > Sense Bytes: F0 00 03 00 00 26 FB 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 09 00 00 00 00 > > > Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 > > > Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x09 (write error - loss of streaming) Fru 0x0 [...] > FWIW, over the weekend I went and bought some CDRW media and tried that. = =20 > It worked. So tonight I tried a CDR, and it worked, albeit at a much=20 > slower speed than I am used to. I will slowly work my way up to my norma= l=20 > speed. [...] > [root@xeon:/home/ftpbackup] # cdrecord -eject speed=3D4 dev=3D0,5,0 repo.= raw > Cdrecord 1.10 (i386-unknown-freebsd4.5) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 J=F6rg=20 [...] > Vendor_info : 'PLEXTOR ' > Identifikation : 'CD-R PX-W124TS' > Revision : '1.05' Nice CD burning device you have. ;-) I'm still using my good old PX-R412C: Five years old, burning 5 CDRs per week; and still running. Hmm, I still not convinced that this is a type-of-CDR(W)-media issue. The scsi device reports a sense key for a medium error, but not because the medium has caused a failure; there are simply not enough different sense keys for more precise error information. Therefore an an Additional Sense Key (ASC) and Additional Sense Key Qualifier (ASCQ) are used to describe the error condition precisely. Use the -v switch for cdrecord and watch the buffer status while burning a CDR at a higer speed. If it runs empty, there's your problem. If not and you still get 'loss of streaming' errors, watch for reports regarding scsi transport in /var/log/messages or dmesg(8). -Bj=F6rn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 22:25:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9E737B400; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:25:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2S6PSGd036797 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2S6PSbJ036794; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:25:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15522.46936.107162.91222@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:25:28 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: The sendmail discussion... X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been purposefully trying to avoid getting involved with the entire "should sendmail be in the base OS" debate as my input would obviously be biased. However, avoiding a response has become more and more difficult as I've seen unanswered questions, misinformation, and as of late, people either posting what they believe my views to be or asking that I post. As you read this, keep in mind these are *my own personal opinions* and apply all of the standard disclaimers that implies (e.g., some of my facts may be wrong). It's ok if you don't agree with them. I also apologize for the length, but people wanted to hear my views. Think of it this way, it is in reply to 71 posts in the current thread. Feel free to skip sections if you want. The last couple of sections may be of interest to those looking for a solution. So here goes... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- My place in all of this. I've been involved in supporting sendmail since 1996, once of the primary developers since 1997, working for Sendmail, Inc. since 1998, and finally working on the FreeBSD sendmail distribution since 2000. Someone wrote, "Greg Shapiro--who's FreeBSD work may even been supported by Sendmail, Inc." For the record, Sendmail, Inc. does not pay me to keep sendmail up to date in FreeBSD. They pay me to work on the actual sendmail source code and other commercial products. The work on FreeBSD is purely voluntary on my part. That same person wrote, "Greg ensures that 'it ain't broke, so don't fix it.'" Thanks. :) Another statement I would like to correct was: 3) We'd lose the contribution of Greg if sendmail was moved out of the core system. (Could this possibly be true?? I assume that Greg would eventually become involved in the discourse if it looked like something would actually happen, and his veto would definitely shut down the possibility of doing any of this. Some people are just That Important.) I think people overestimate my role in FreeBSD. I'm only one committer. I don't dictate what is moved in or out of the core system. Ultimately, the FreeBSD community, through the mailing lists, PR and patch submissions, and volunteering, drive the future of FreeBSD. I don't have veto power, I am just "Not That Important". I think core@freebsd.org is the only group who is "Just That Important". I do however worry that sendmail will be moved out of the core system. I've tried to answer the technical reasons below. But on a personal note, sendmail's existence in FreeBSD is what allowed me to become a committer and I would hate to lose the ability to contribute if it were removed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is sendmail in FreeBSD in the first place? The reasons are clearly historical. Someone asked, why "non-BSD packages" are in the distribution. sendmail started as part of the CSRG Berkeley Software Distributions. It wasn't added to BSD or added to FreeBSD, it was just there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is sendmail still in FreeBSD? In FreeBSD's case it is still sendmail for what I believe to be three reasons: 1. It's traditionally been sendmail. Don't underestimate the importance of tradition. No, it doesn't necessarily make it right but it does maintain continuity. 2. A large portion of the FreeBSD community use sendmail. Switching it out on them now would cause a large amount of hassles. Users who don't use sendmail have already figured out how to deal with the changes necessary. Switching it out on the others would cause more damage than good. 3. It's my fault. I've heard rumors that before I became a committer, sendmail may have been removed from FreeBSD because it wasn't being actively maintained. I don't know if these rumors are true, but if you are looking for someone to blame, look no further. Someone stated that the "underlying reason that sendmail and bind remain in src-contrib is that the maintainers are developing/maintaining at a rate that would make generating port patches and doing port versions prohibitively time consuming." While it is true that packages like sendmail and BIND are under active development, they are not actively developed in the FreeBSD repository. Port versions actually come out faster than base OS versions. Released versions are however imported into the FreeBSD repository. However, you are correct in that the infrastructure surrounding sendmail (e.g., src/etc/mail and the buildworld components) are actively maintained. That probably has kept it in. Someone asked why "large, complex" packages are part of the system. Personally, I don't think things should be pulled out because of their size or complexity. There are many parts of the FreeBSD system that fall under this category, not just the favorite targets of sendmail and BIND. However, I've really worked hard at mitigating the complexities involved. I've tried to make it much easier to configure and maintain sendmail in FreeBSD compared to it's state a few years ago. Most of this work has been in /etc/mail/Makefile and the build infrastructure (for those using buildworld/installworld to upgrade). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, history aside, why is sendmail still in FreeBSD? Every commercial and open source UNIX operating system ships with an MTA, most of them sendmail. I do not think it would a good idea to ship a UNIX or UNIX like operating system without an MTA. However, no, it doesn't have to be sendmail. I completely, 100% agree that users should be given a choice. See "What are the problems in the current setup?" and "Where do I think things should go?" below for more of my thoughts on this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is there a sendmail port? The sendmail port(s) serves a different role than the code in the base operating system: 1. The ports usually have the latest version of sendmail available on the day of the sendmail release. On the other hand, I don't import every release on the the day of the release. Call me a wimp but I prefer to let releases shake out a little before forcing them on everyone. Witness the time delay in getting sendmail 8.12 into the tree. I also wouldn't be honest if I didn't say that I sometimes don't have time to do it immediately. 2. The sendmail built with the OS only includes support for items that come with the base OS. The port allows users to build sendmail with features not available in the base OS such as SASL and LDAP. 3. The ports have the ability to track beta versions of sendmail. 4. The ports give users a way to modify the way sendmail is built without requiring them to keep /usr/src up to date and build world. While many of us are quite comfortable doing a make buildworld and make installworld (on a running multiuser system no less), other users wouldn't even know where to begin. 5. The ports can enable experimental features I am not willing to turn on in the base OS. For example, the port offered milter support during the 8.11 release. 6. The ports can be upgraded to new versions while the operating system isn't upgraded. For example, some users out there are still running FreeBSD 3.X (or even 2.X) and can use the ports to get sendmail 8.12. Dirk Meyer does a great job at actively maintaining the port and I personally appreciate his hard work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why did you change the infrastructure in the first place? Much of this debate started when I started MFC'ing 8.12. Unfortunately, the questions didn't come up when I posted the -CURRENT patch for review, when I committed 8.12 to -CURRENT, when I waited weeks for comments before MFC'ing, when I posted a patch to -STABLE for review. People waited until *after* I started committing to -STABLE. But, no, I'm not bitter about that. :) (Note: humor, don't flame me) I had to change /etc/rc so that if sendmail_enable was set to NO, a submit-only daemon was started. (Due to a bug in the new /etc/rc, an extra queue running daemon was also started. That is now fixed in -CURRENT and will be MFC'ed in 1 week unless something comes up.) First a little bit of technical info on why a new daemon is needed. sendmail 8.12 is no longer set-user-ID (and there was much rejoicing). Command line submissions are relayed to an MTA (which usually runs as root, but doesn't have to) for processing. This makes the command line invoked sendmail act as a pure relay translating the command line and standard input into an SMTP stream to talk to an MTA. See /etc/mail/README for more information. Many were understandably upset that setting sendmail_enable to NO didn't prevent any sendmail daemons from starting. I thought long and hard about how to cause the least amount of damage. I honestly did (and still do) believe my solution provides a working system to most of the user community. Users who were using sendmail and had sendmail_enable set to NO would still have a working sendmail installation after an upgrade as a daemon listening on localhost only would be started to accept command line submissions. Without that daemon, mail would be queued in the submission mail queue for ever without any indication. An additional queue running daemon was also added for the submission mail queue in case the MTA wasn't answering at the time mail was submitted on the command line. Again, this is needed to avoid queuing mail forever. More technical information is also available in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/src/SECURITY. I've now added support for sendmail_enable=NONE to prevent *any* sendmail daemons from being started. This will be MFC'ed in 1 week unless something comes up. Until the MFC, -STABLE users can turn off all of the sendmail startup code with: sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" I was actually surprised to learn some people were starting other MTAs using sendmail_enable="YES". I was under the (false?) impression that all port-installed MTAs had their own /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ startup scripts. The infrastructure changes in place are necessary to support sendmail 8.12 as a non-set-user-ID binary. In my opinion, the inconvenience added by requiring alternative MTAs to change sendmail_enable from NO to NONE is minor compared with getting rid of a set-user-ID root binary in the OS distribution. I'm sorry for any inconvenience I have caused. I will work with Warner and Bruce to get a note into both /usr/src/UPDATING and the release notes. For those who have suggested changing the name from "sendmail_enable" to "mta_enable", I don't think that solves anything. The startup routines in /etc/rc and the settings for sendmail_*_flags in /etc/defaults/rc.conf are truly sendmail oriented. I've never envisioned "sendmail_enable" to be non-MTA specific. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- What are the "problems" in the current setup? 1. The build time configuration in /etc/make.conf has no influence on the startup time or run-time configuration. I personally feel this is correct and not a problem or bug. /etc/make.conf is for building, not for configuring services. When it comes to building, I've tried to offer as many sendmail build knobs as I could to satisfy everyone's needs. 2. People installing from release media get sendmail installed. Yes, this is a problem. People should be able to chose the components they want and the current selection of 'bin', 'doc', 'man' is too coarse grained. Separating FreeBSD into packages is a good idea but it should be done across the board instead of singling out the MTA. People should be able to pick and choose what they want to install. Ideally, everything except the core OS essentials should be optional. This includes items such as OpenSSH, BIND, sendmail, gcc, perl, cvs, X11, ISDN, UUCP, groff, NIS, lpr, amd, etc. However, realistically, this would require a lot of work and FreeBSD is a volunteer effort. Also, in some cases, alternatives or simple replacements will be needed. For example, it would be great for users to be offered other MTAs such as postfix or exim. For those who don't want any MTA, a specialized SMTP client (to take command line submissions and turn them into an SMTP submission to a real MTA) could be written but great care must be taken -- it's not as simple as it sounds (think error conditions, queuing, etc. and keep in mind the tool would need to handle submissions from automated processes such as cron which can't resend later if there is a problem). The pre-formatted man pages would need to be installed if groff wasn't added. Any perl scripts in the base OS would need to be converted to shell scripts or C code (not including the perl stuff to buildworld or buildkernel -- you can require that people who expect to build things have gcc and perl installed). 3. People installing from installworld get sendmail installed. As far as I know, there are sufficient knobs in place to prevents this (NO_SENDMAIL, NO_MAILWRAPPER or using mailwrapper). 4. People installing from ports get multiple versions installed There are a couple of things that can mitigate this problem. The port can give users instructions (or a script) on how to remove the base installed version. If the release media problem above were solved, it would help in this situation as well. Those building/upgrading from source already have the tools to prevent the base OS install. 5. The startup scripts get in the way of alternative MTAs The startup scripts provide knobs to disable the startup of virtually every daemon in the base OS. Yes, occasionally these knobs will change, and yes, occasionally new ones will be added. That is unavoidable in a system that is maintained. The alternative is to never upgrade anything in the OS. Those who prefer that should use one of the release branches (e.g., RELENG_4_4). As a side note, I think it is perfectly acceptable to have this happen in -STABLE. Only releases are frozen points in time, adding new things to -STABLE which change behaviors are acceptable in my opinion. That is why it is called -STABLE instead of -FROZEN or -DEAD. (I'll probably get some flack for this one). In my opinion, the items in /etc/rc and /etc/defaults/rc.conf are for controlling the daemons included with the OS. As the daemons in the OS change, so do the startup routines. Also, I don't expect the code for sendmail_enable to properly work for starting exim. Hence the 'sendmail' in the name. I really would like to see work in the /etc/rc.d project resume. I think this would solve a lot of the recent problems that have been brought up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where do I think things should go? If the project (and/or I) had unlimited time and resources: 1. Convert FreeBSD into a bunch of packages and let binary installations with sysinstall (or some future installer) pick and chose or pick from a short list of "standard" systems. Offer alternatives where available. 2. Finish the /etc/rc.d/ work so it mirrors the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ system the ports already use. That way a buildworld with NO_SENDMAIL=yes in /etc/make.conf or not installing the sendmail "package" in the future sysinstall (see previous item) would prevent an /etc/rc.d/sendmail from being installed. I plan on continuing to improve the FreeBSD infrastructure for sendmail and will continue trying to be sensitive to the needs of non-sendmail users. I welcome feedback and I try to be quite reasonable. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On a personal note... I'd like to quote two statements that were made in the thread and respond to them since they encompass my pet peeves: - "I hate sendmail with a passion." sendmail is just a piece of software. I gave up being passionate about that sort of thing a long time ago and have a lot less stress in my life now. I can understand someone disliking a piece of software and choosing not to use it, but hating it with a passion? - "Darn sendmail trash.." I truly wish people could have a technical debate without mudslinging. You aren't insulting the bits on the disk with statements like this, you are really insulting the authors of that software. Let's try to be civil. Please keep the discussion technical and not resort to personal attacks and mudslinging. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 22:36: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pozo.com (pozo.com [216.101.162.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9362D37B419; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:35:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from dual.pozo.com (dual.pozo.com [216.101.162.51]) by pozo.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2S6ZP4n034326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:35:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from null@pozo.com) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020327223356.040b5570@pozo.com> X-Sender: null@pozo.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:34:51 -0800 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Manfred Antar Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... In-Reply-To: <15522.46936.107162.91222@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:25 PM 3/27/2002 -0800, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: >I've been purposefully trying to avoid getting involved with the entire >"should sendmail be in the base OS" debate as my input would obviously >be biased. However, avoiding a response has become more and more >difficult as I've seen unanswered questions, misinformation, and as of >late, people either posting what they believe my views to be or asking >that I post. > >As you read this, keep in mind these are *my own personal opinions* and >apply all of the standard disclaimers that implies (e.g., some of my >facts may be wrong). It's ok if you don't agree with them. I also >apologize for the length, but people wanted to hear my views. Think of >it this way, it is in reply to 71 posts in the current thread. Feel >free to skip sections if you want. The last couple of sections may be >of interest to those looking for a solution. So here goes... > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > My place in all of this. > >I've been involved in supporting sendmail since 1996, once of the >primary developers since 1997, working for Sendmail, Inc. since 1998, >and finally working on the FreeBSD sendmail distribution since 2000. > >Someone wrote, "Greg Shapiro--who's FreeBSD work may even been supported >by Sendmail, Inc." For the record, Sendmail, Inc. does not pay me to >keep sendmail up to date in FreeBSD. They pay me to work on the actual >sendmail source code and other commercial products. The work on FreeBSD >is purely voluntary on my part. > >That same person wrote, "Greg ensures that 'it ain't broke, so don't fix >it.'" Thanks. :) > >Another statement I would like to correct was: > > 3) We'd lose the contribution of Greg if sendmail was moved out of the > core system. (Could this possibly be true?? I assume that Greg > would eventually become involved in the discourse if it looked like > something would actually happen, and his veto would definitely shut > down the possibility of doing any of this. Some people are just > That Important.) > >I think people overestimate my role in FreeBSD. I'm only one committer. >I don't dictate what is moved in or out of the core system. Ultimately, >the FreeBSD community, through the mailing lists, PR and patch >submissions, and volunteering, drive the future of FreeBSD. I don't >have veto power, I am just "Not That Important". I think >core@freebsd.org is the only group who is "Just That Important". > >I do however worry that sendmail will be moved out of the core system. >I've tried to answer the technical reasons below. But on a personal >note, sendmail's existence in FreeBSD is what allowed me to become a >committer and I would hate to lose the ability to contribute if it were >removed. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Why is sendmail in FreeBSD in the first place? > >The reasons are clearly historical. Someone asked, why "non-BSD >packages" are in the distribution. sendmail started as part of the CSRG >Berkeley Software Distributions. It wasn't added to BSD or added to >FreeBSD, it was just there. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Why is sendmail still in FreeBSD? > >In FreeBSD's case it is still sendmail for what I believe to be three >reasons: > >1. It's traditionally been sendmail. Don't underestimate the importance > of tradition. No, it doesn't necessarily make it right but it does > maintain continuity. >2. A large portion of the FreeBSD community use sendmail. Switching it > out on them now would cause a large amount of hassles. Users who > don't use sendmail have already figured out how to deal with the > changes necessary. Switching it out on the others would cause more > damage than good. >3. It's my fault. I've heard rumors that before I became a committer, > sendmail may have been removed from FreeBSD because it wasn't being > actively maintained. I don't know if these rumors are true, but if > you are looking for someone to blame, look no further. > >Someone stated that the "underlying reason that sendmail and bind remain >in src-contrib is that the maintainers are developing/maintaining at a >rate that would make generating port patches and doing port versions >prohibitively time consuming." While it is true that packages like >sendmail and BIND are under active development, they are not actively >developed in the FreeBSD repository. Port versions actually come out >faster than base OS versions. Released versions are however imported >into the FreeBSD repository. However, you are correct in that the >infrastructure surrounding sendmail (e.g., src/etc/mail and the >buildworld components) are actively maintained. That probably has kept >it in. > >Someone asked why "large, complex" packages are part of the system. >Personally, I don't think things should be pulled out because of their >size or complexity. There are many parts of the FreeBSD system that >fall under this category, not just the favorite targets of sendmail and >BIND. However, I've really worked hard at mitigating the complexities >involved. I've tried to make it much easier to configure and maintain >sendmail in FreeBSD compared to it's state a few years ago. Most of >this work has been in /etc/mail/Makefile and the build infrastructure >(for those using buildworld/installworld to upgrade). > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Ok, history aside, why is sendmail still in FreeBSD? > >Every commercial and open source UNIX operating system ships with an >MTA, most of them sendmail. I do not think it would a good idea to ship >a UNIX or UNIX like operating system without an MTA. However, no, it >doesn't have to be sendmail. I completely, 100% agree that users should >be given a choice. See "What are the problems in the current setup?" >and "Where do I think things should go?" below for more of my thoughts >on this. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Why is there a sendmail port? > >The sendmail port(s) serves a different role than the code in the base >operating system: > >1. The ports usually have the latest version of sendmail available on > the day of the sendmail release. On the other hand, I don't import > every release on the the day of the release. Call me a wimp but I > prefer to let releases shake out a little before forcing them on > everyone. Witness the time delay in getting sendmail 8.12 into the > tree. I also wouldn't be honest if I didn't say that I sometimes > don't have time to do it immediately. > >2. The sendmail built with the OS only includes support for items that > come with the base OS. The port allows users to build sendmail with > features not available in the base OS such as SASL and LDAP. > >3. The ports have the ability to track beta versions of sendmail. > >4. The ports give users a way to modify the way sendmail is built > without requiring them to keep /usr/src up to date and build world. > While many of us are quite comfortable doing a make buildworld and > make installworld (on a running multiuser system no less), other > users wouldn't even know where to begin. > >5. The ports can enable experimental features I am not willing to turn > on in the base OS. For example, the port offered milter support > during the 8.11 release. > >6. The ports can be upgraded to new versions while the operating system > isn't upgraded. For example, some users out there are still running > FreeBSD 3.X (or even 2.X) and can use the ports to get sendmail 8.12. > >Dirk Meyer does a great job at actively maintaining the port and I >personally appreciate his hard work. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Why did you change the infrastructure in the first place? > >Much of this debate started when I started MFC'ing 8.12. Unfortunately, >the questions didn't come up when I posted the -CURRENT patch for >review, when I committed 8.12 to -CURRENT, when I waited weeks for >comments before MFC'ing, when I posted a patch to -STABLE for review. >People waited until *after* I started committing to -STABLE. But, no, >I'm not bitter about that. :) (Note: humor, don't flame me) > >I had to change /etc/rc so that if sendmail_enable was set to NO, a >submit-only daemon was started. (Due to a bug in the new /etc/rc, an >extra queue running daemon was also started. That is now fixed in >-CURRENT and will be MFC'ed in 1 week unless something comes up.) > >First a little bit of technical info on why a new daemon is needed. >sendmail 8.12 is no longer set-user-ID (and there was much rejoicing). >Command line submissions are relayed to an MTA (which usually runs as >root, but doesn't have to) for processing. This makes the command line >invoked sendmail act as a pure relay translating the command line and >standard input into an SMTP stream to talk to an MTA. See >/etc/mail/README for more information. > >Many were understandably upset that setting sendmail_enable to NO didn't >prevent any sendmail daemons from starting. I thought long and hard >about how to cause the least amount of damage. I honestly did (and >still do) believe my solution provides a working system to most of the >user community. Users who were using sendmail and had sendmail_enable >set to NO would still have a working sendmail installation after an >upgrade as a daemon listening on localhost only would be started to >accept command line submissions. Without that daemon, mail would be >queued in the submission mail queue for ever without any indication. An >additional queue running daemon was also added for the submission mail >queue in case the MTA wasn't answering at the time mail was submitted on >the command line. Again, this is needed to avoid queuing mail forever. >More technical information is also available in >/usr/src/contrib/sendmail/src/SECURITY. > >I've now added support for sendmail_enable=NONE to prevent *any* >sendmail daemons from being started. This will be MFC'ed in 1 week >unless something comes up. Until the MFC, -STABLE users can turn off >all of the sendmail startup code with: > >sendmail_enable="NO" >sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" >sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" >sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > >I was actually surprised to learn some people were starting other MTAs >using sendmail_enable="YES". I was under the (false?) impression that >all port-installed MTAs had their own /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ startup >scripts. > >The infrastructure changes in place are necessary to support sendmail >8.12 as a non-set-user-ID binary. In my opinion, the inconvenience >added by requiring alternative MTAs to change sendmail_enable from NO to >NONE is minor compared with getting rid of a set-user-ID root binary in >the OS distribution. I'm sorry for any inconvenience I have caused. > >I will work with Warner and Bruce to get a note into both >/usr/src/UPDATING and the release notes. > >For those who have suggested changing the name from "sendmail_enable" to >"mta_enable", I don't think that solves anything. The startup routines >in /etc/rc and the settings for sendmail_*_flags in >/etc/defaults/rc.conf are truly sendmail oriented. I've never >envisioned "sendmail_enable" to be non-MTA specific. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > What are the "problems" in the current setup? > >1. The build time configuration in /etc/make.conf has no influence on > the startup time or run-time configuration. > >I personally feel this is correct and not a problem or bug. >/etc/make.conf is for building, not for configuring services. > >When it comes to building, I've tried to offer as many sendmail build >knobs as I could to satisfy everyone's needs. > >2. People installing from release media get sendmail installed. > >Yes, this is a problem. People should be able to chose the components >they want and the current selection of 'bin', 'doc', 'man' is too coarse >grained. Separating FreeBSD into packages is a good idea but it should >be done across the board instead of singling out the MTA. People should >be able to pick and choose what they want to install. Ideally, >everything except the core OS essentials should be optional. This >includes items such as OpenSSH, BIND, sendmail, gcc, perl, cvs, X11, >ISDN, UUCP, groff, NIS, lpr, amd, etc. However, realistically, this >would require a lot of work and FreeBSD is a volunteer effort. > >Also, in some cases, alternatives or simple replacements will be needed. >For example, it would be great for users to be offered other MTAs such >as postfix or exim. For those who don't want any MTA, a specialized >SMTP client (to take command line submissions and turn them into an SMTP >submission to a real MTA) could be written but great care must be taken >-- it's not as simple as it sounds (think error conditions, queuing, >etc. and keep in mind the tool would need to handle submissions from >automated processes such as cron which can't resend later if there is a >problem). > >The pre-formatted man pages would need to be installed if groff wasn't >added. Any perl scripts in the base OS would need to be converted to >shell scripts or C code (not including the perl stuff to buildworld or >buildkernel -- you can require that people who expect to build things >have gcc and perl installed). > >3. People installing from installworld get sendmail installed. > >As far as I know, there are sufficient knobs in place to prevents this >(NO_SENDMAIL, NO_MAILWRAPPER or using mailwrapper). > >4. People installing from ports get multiple versions installed > >There are a couple of things that can mitigate this problem. The port >can give users instructions (or a script) on how to remove the base >installed version. If the release media problem above were solved, it >would help in this situation as well. Those building/upgrading from >source already have the tools to prevent the base OS install. > >5. The startup scripts get in the way of alternative MTAs > >The startup scripts provide knobs to disable the startup of virtually >every daemon in the base OS. Yes, occasionally these knobs will change, >and yes, occasionally new ones will be added. That is unavoidable in a >system that is maintained. The alternative is to never upgrade anything >in the OS. Those who prefer that should use one of the release branches >(e.g., RELENG_4_4). > >As a side note, I think it is perfectly acceptable to have this happen >in -STABLE. Only releases are frozen points in time, adding new things >to -STABLE which change behaviors are acceptable in my opinion. That is >why it is called -STABLE instead of -FROZEN or -DEAD. (I'll probably >get some flack for this one). > >In my opinion, the items in /etc/rc and /etc/defaults/rc.conf are for >controlling the daemons included with the OS. As the daemons in the OS >change, so do the startup routines. Also, I don't expect the code for >sendmail_enable to properly work for starting exim. Hence the >'sendmail' in the name. > >I really would like to see work in the /etc/rc.d project resume. I >think this would solve a lot of the recent problems that have been >brought up. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Where do I think things should go? > >If the project (and/or I) had unlimited time and resources: > >1. Convert FreeBSD into a bunch of packages and let binary installations > with sysinstall (or some future installer) pick and chose or pick > from a short list of "standard" systems. Offer alternatives where > available. >2. Finish the /etc/rc.d/ work so it mirrors the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ > system the ports already use. That way a buildworld with > NO_SENDMAIL=yes in /etc/make.conf or not installing the sendmail > "package" in the future sysinstall (see previous item) would prevent > an /etc/rc.d/sendmail from being installed. > >I plan on continuing to improve the FreeBSD infrastructure for sendmail >and will continue trying to be sensitive to the needs of non-sendmail >users. I welcome feedback and I try to be quite reasonable. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On a personal note... > >I'd like to quote two statements that were made in the thread and >respond to them since they encompass my pet peeves: > >- "I hate sendmail with a passion." > >sendmail is just a piece of software. I gave up being passionate about >that sort of thing a long time ago and have a lot less stress in my life >now. I can understand someone disliking a piece of software and >choosing not to use it, but hating it with a passion? > >- "Darn sendmail trash.." > >I truly wish people could have a technical debate without mudslinging. >You aren't insulting the bits on the disk with statements like this, you >are really insulting the authors of that software. Let's try to be >civil. > >Please keep the discussion technical and not resort to personal attacks >and mudslinging. Please leave sendmail in the base system !! :) ================================== || null@pozo.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 22:55:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8487137B416; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:55:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2S6tcd25965; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:55:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2S6tcW01395; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:55:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2S6tcj21843; Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:55:38 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For review: Revised sendmail startup settings Message-ID: <20020328075538.A9748@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <15520.10783.995435.407285@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <15520.10783.995435.407285@horsey.gshapiro.net>; from gshapiro@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 11:58:23PM -0800 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.3.1(snapshot 20020109) (curry.mchp.siemens.de) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 25-Mar-2002 at 23:58:23 -0800, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > An issue came up on freebsd-stable today regarding the boot-time startup of > sendmail for users who are using other MTAs. The end result was that users > needed a way to completely prevent sendmail from trying to start at boot > time. > > The current order of operations at boot time is: > > # MTA > if ${sendmail_enable} == YES > start sendmail with ${sendmail_flags} > else > if ${sendmail_outbound_enable} == YES > start sendmail with ${sendmail_outbound_flags} > if ${sendmail_submit_enable} == YES > start sendmail with ${sendmail_submit_flags} > endif One thing I don't understand here (for the case someone sets ${sendmail_enable} to NO): Both, ${sendmail_outbound_enable} and ${sendmail_submit_enable} are on by default. ${sendmail_outbound_flags} ist set to: "-L sm-queue -q30m" so the (var/spool/mqueue) queue is run regularly. Additionally, ${sendmail_submit_flags} is set to: "-L sm-mta-submit -bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost" Wouldn't the latter one be enough to run the queue because of the -q30m? Thanks, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 22:59:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD42437B405; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2S6xLGd037258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2S6xLTa037255; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:59:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15522.48969.274804.600168@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:59:21 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Andre Albsmeier Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For review: Revised sendmail startup settings In-Reply-To: <20020328075538.A9748@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <15520.10783.995435.407285@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020328075538.A9748@curry.mchp.siemens.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG andre.albsmeier> One thing I don't understand here (for the case someone andre.albsmeier> sets ${sendmail_enable} to NO): andre.albsmeier> Both, ${sendmail_outbound_enable} and andre.albsmeier> ${sendmail_submit_enable} are on by andre.albsmeier> default. ${sendmail_outbound_flags} ist set to: andre.albsmeier> "-L sm-queue -q30m" andre.albsmeier> so the (var/spool/mqueue) queue is run andre.albsmeier> regularly. Additionally, ${sendmail_submit_flags} is set andre.albsmeier> to: andre.albsmeier> "-L sm-mta-submit -bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost" andre.albsmeier> Wouldn't the latter one be enough to run the queue because andre.albsmeier> of the -q30m? Yes, hence the patch and the new order shown in the message: if ${sendmail_enable} == NONE # Do nothing else if ${sendmail_enable} == YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_flags} else if ${sendmail_submit_enable} == YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_submit_flags} else if ${sendmail_outbound_enable} == YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_outbound_flags} endif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 27 23:10:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [192.35.17.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D503E37B404; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail3.siemens.de (mail3.siemens.de [139.25.208.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2S7AhR07611; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:10:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail3.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2S7Agn05584; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:10:43 +0100 (MET) Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2S7Agj21993; Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:10:42 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: Andre Albsmeier , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For review: Revised sendmail startup settings Message-ID: <20020328081042.A214@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <15520.10783.995435.407285@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020328075538.A9748@curry.mchp.siemens.de> <15522.48969.274804.600168@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <15522.48969.274804.600168@horsey.gshapiro.net>; from gshapiro@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:59:21PM -0800 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.3.1(snapshot 20020109) (curry.mchp.siemens.de) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 27-Mar-2002 at 22:59:21 -0800, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > andre.albsmeier> One thing I don't understand here (for the case someone > andre.albsmeier> sets ${sendmail_enable} to NO): > > andre.albsmeier> Both, ${sendmail_outbound_enable} and > andre.albsmeier> ${sendmail_submit_enable} are on by > andre.albsmeier> default. ${sendmail_outbound_flags} ist set to: > > andre.albsmeier> "-L sm-queue -q30m" > > andre.albsmeier> so the (var/spool/mqueue) queue is run > andre.albsmeier> regularly. Additionally, ${sendmail_submit_flags} is set > andre.albsmeier> to: > > andre.albsmeier> "-L sm-mta-submit -bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost" > > andre.albsmeier> Wouldn't the latter one be enough to run the queue because > andre.albsmeier> of the -q30m? > > Yes, hence the patch and the new order shown in the message: > > if ${sendmail_enable} == NONE > # Do nothing > else if ${sendmail_enable} == YES > start sendmail with ${sendmail_flags} > else if ${sendmail_submit_enable} == YES > start sendmail with ${sendmail_submit_flags} > else if ${sendmail_outbound_enable} == YES > start sendmail with ${sendmail_outbound_flags} > endif I see. Thanks for the enlightenment :-) -Andre -- Linux is only free if your time is worthless. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 1: 1:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from savi2.estpak.ee (ld1.estpak.ee [194.126.101.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D22137B417; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 01:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from myhakas.estpak.ee (myhakas.estpak.ee [194.126.115.54]) by savi2.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9CA7357D; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:01:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from myhakas.estpak.ee (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by myhakas.estpak.ee (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2S91Ao0030498; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:01:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vallo@myhakas.estpak.ee) Received: (from vallo@localhost) by myhakas.estpak.ee (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2S91ABW030497; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:01:10 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:01:10 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Glenn Johnson Cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: genericstable does not work with sendmail 8.12 Message-ID: <20020328090110.GA30094@myhakas.estpak.ee> Reply-To: kalts@estpak.ee References: <20020327170158.GA22214@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> <15522.3525.98317.836973@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020327183845.GA22931@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> <15522.4636.310032.816695@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020327190305.GA23057@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020327190305.GA23057@node1.cluster.srrc.usda.gov> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:03:05PM -0600, Glenn Johnson wrote: > Anyway, I tried it with removing the -o in the genericstable FEATURE > but the genericstable lookups still do not work. They worked fine with > sendmail 8.11 so obviously something has changed with the new version. I > will pay a visit to sendmail.org now. I got it working again by defining GENERICS_DOMAIN in my .mc. As I understand it'll look up only unqualified names or names which are defined in GENERICS_DOMAIN. I'm sure there are some cases I still miss, sendmail is such a magic. -- Vallo Kallaste kalts@estpak.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 1:13:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24C0837B41B for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 01:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20432 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2002 09:13:36 -0000 Received: from pd900328a.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO gmx.net) (217.0.50.138) by mail.gmx.net (mp015-rz3) with SMTP; 28 Mar 2002 09:13:36 -0000 Message-ID: <3CA2DEC6.7070608@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:13:42 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020310 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Base sendmail 8.12 and sasl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is the old /etc/make.conf-magic that used to sasl-fy the base 8.11 sendmail still working with 8.12 or can it be adapted to make it work with 8.12 or should I get the version from ports before I upgrade my -STABLE box next time? -- Michael Nottebrock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 1:16:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skif.net (ns.skif.net [195.58.224.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5142337B405 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 01:16:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.58.224.122] (HELO dru.dn.ua) by skif.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 4136458 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:14:57 +0200 Received: (from admin@localhost) by dru.dn.ua (8.12.2/8.11.6) id g2S9ETeq072998; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:14:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from admin) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:14:29 +0200 From: "Vladislav V. Zhuk" To: Michael Lucas Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020328091429.GJ61777@dru.dn.ua> References: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> <026501c1d561$90d61de0$0200a8c0@gauss> <002201c1d59c$0b1a6c20$6501a8c0@techgodz.com> <20020327100652.A87868@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020327100652.A87868@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:06:52AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > Set named_enable="NO" in /etc/rc.conf. > > This will stop the default system bind from starting. > > You then should have a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d to start the > correct bind. It's almost certainly there already, just prevented > from running by the default system bind. You are forget about: dig, host, nslookup, nsupdate and other utilities from bind package. -- Vladislav V. Zhuk (06267)3-60-03 admin@dru.dn.ua 2:465/197@FidoNet.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 2: 7: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mirror.kiev.ua (mail.mirror.kiev.ua [212.35.162.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1217337B405 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 02:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from admin by mail.mirror.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2SA96044191 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:09:09 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:09:32 +0200 From: Vladislav Kushka X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Reply-To: Vladislav Kushka Organization: Mirror Weekly X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <52166678511.20020328120932@mirror.kiev.ua> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: The last stable iso snapshot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all Does any body know, where can I get the last version of STABLE (!) vresion of FreeBSD in iso images. Thanks. Vlad Kushka VK3133-RIPE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 2:11:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.firstcallgroup.co.uk (dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk [194.200.93.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27B137B426 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 02:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from pfrench by mailhost.firstcallgroup.co.uk with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16qWsG-000E1r-00; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:11:16 +0000 To: lambert@lambertfam.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed In-Reply-To: <20020328032452.GB13004@laptop.lambertfam.org> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:11:16 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Except that with the rc.conf changes to sendmail_enable you now need to > start your MTA from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/{qmail|postfix|exim|...}.sh or > rc.local and setting sendmail_enable=NO rather than it just working once > you fixup mailer.conf. Why ? The way I read the changes was that if I set sendmail_enable to YES and the rest to NO it will start sendmail in the normal way, and thus via the magic of mailwarpper start whatever MTA I have instead. No changes necessary to the way I currently do things at all. -pcf. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 2:26:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from arwen.bmm.it (arwen.bmm.it [213.144.76.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A8C37B400 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 02:26:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (freecris.bmm.it [213.144.76.37]) by arwen.bmm.it (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2SAQQv47727; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:26:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from deana@bmm.it) Message-Id: <200203281026.g2SAQQv47727@arwen.bmm.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Cristiano Deana To: Vladislav Kushka , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The last stable iso snapshot Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:26:54 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <52166678511.20020328120932@mirror.kiev.ua> In-Reply-To: <52166678511.20020328120932@mirror.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Il giorno Thursday 28 March 2002 11:09, Vladislav Kushka mi scriveva: > Does any body know, where can I get the last version of STABLE (!) > vresion of FreeBSD in iso images. http://snapshots.jp.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 3:20:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nas.dgap.mipt.ru (nas.dgap.mipt.ru [194.85.81.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B19E37B400 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by nas.dgap.mipt.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2SBKDe39409; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:20:13 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from andrew) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:20:12 +0300 From: "Andrew L. Neporada" To: void Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: incorrect information in ata(4)? Message-ID: <20020328142012.A39033@nas.dgap.mipt.ru> References: <20020328002451.GA25098@parhelion.firedrake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020328002451.GA25098@parhelion.firedrake.org>; from float@firedrake.org on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 12:24:51AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 12:24:51AM +0000, void wrote: > % uname -a > narcissus% uname -a > FreeBSD example.com 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #6: Mon Mar 18 > 12:08:59 EST 2002 root@example.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EXAMPLE i386 > > % man ata | grep -C atamodes > To see the devices' current access modes, use the command line: > > sysctl hw.atamodes > [...] > % sysctl hw.atamodes > sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.atamodes' Hm. Everything works for me: % uname -a FreeBSD nas.dgap.mipt.ru 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #2: Fri Mar 15 01:53:25 MSK 2002 root@nas.dgap.mipt.ru:/usr/obj/data/FreeBSD/stable/src/sys/NAS i386 % sysctl hw.atamodes hw.atamodes: dma,---,---,---, Maybe this is related with recent ATA MFC? > > -- > Ben > > "An art scene of delight > I created this to be ..." -- Sun Ra > Andrew. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 3:39:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov (gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.4.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDBE37B404; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:39:53 -0800 (PST) To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.9a January 7, 2002 Message-ID: From: "Robert L Sowders" Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:39:51 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlm03/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 03/28/2002 03:39:52 AM, Serialize complete at 03/28/2002 03:39:52 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg is absolutely correct. These whiners, who constantly moan for code while never contributing any, should contribute the code if they want it changed. Also I shudder to think that those who customize their systems would actually learn how to use all the tools available to them to prevent a makeworld from overwriting or undoing their customizations. :) I wish that we could assign a bitch rating to some of these emails. Say a sliding bitch scale depending on how much code the bitchee has contributed. Then they could easily be filtered to /dev/null. Waddayathink? ;) Much ado about nothing, so far, RTFM. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 4: 8:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [63.109.7.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9661337B417 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 04:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lazlo.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.steam.com [63.109.7.66]) by lazlo.steam.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2SC8TT91694 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 04:08:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 04:08:28 -0800 (PST) From: Cliff Skolnick To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: buildworld broken (/usr/libexec/ftpd) Message-ID: <20020328030228.S40849-100000@lazlo.sc.steam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CVSUP as of Thu Mar 28 03:31:01 PST 2002 make buildworld gives me: cc -O -pipe -DSETPROCTITLE -DSKEY -DLOGIN_CAP -DVIRTUAL_HOSTING -Wall -DINET6 -Dmain=ls_main -I/usr/src/libexec/ftpd/../../bin/ls -o ftpd ftpd.o ftpcmd.o logwtmp.o popen.o skey-stuff.o ls.o cmp.o print.o util.o -lskey -lmd -lcrypt -lutil -lpam print.o: In function `unit_adjust': print.o(.text+0xa7c): undefined reference to `ilogb' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/libexec/ftpd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/libexec. *** Error code 1 Adding a -lm in the list of libraries in /usr/src/libexec/ftpd/Makefile seemed to fix it, but it's not obvious (at least to me) what changed to require this. Perhaps someone a little more familiar with things can figure out why this broke. Cliff -- | Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to | | Steam Tunnel Operations | obtain a little temporary safety deserve | | cliff@steam.com | neither liberty nor safety." | | http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 4:51:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCAF237B419 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 04:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 60811 invoked by uid 1000); 28 Mar 2002 12:52:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:52:04 +0100 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Robert L Sowders Cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... Message-ID: <20020328135204.A60048@mail.webmonster.de> Mail-Followup-To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , Robert L Sowders , Gregory Neil Shapiro , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rsowders@usgs.gov on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 03:39:51AM -0800 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer X-Work-URL: http://www.ngenn.net/ X-Work-Address: nGENn GmbH, Schloss Kransberg, D-61250 Usingen-Kransberg, Germany X-Work-Phone: +49-6081-682-304 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert L Sowders(rsowders@usgs.gov)@2002.03.28 03:39:51 +0000: > Greg is absolutely correct. yes, i agree > These whiners, who constantly moan for code while never contributing any,= =20 > should contribute the code if they want it changed.=20 being a terrible c-coder i have to admit that, after having a warm fuzzy feel in the freebsd community since years, i did not contribute more than a single line of code (wich, when i recall it right, was a fix to the overall limit of FD_SETSIZE inducing severe resource limitations=20 to a variety of daemons, including apache, that could not open more than 256 files/sockets at once). what i did here in germany was to convince customers that freebsd was much more stable and performant for their setups than other os alternatives, and that, if i am allowed to say, with success. with my heritage from systems administration and systems deployment, i am neither a kernel hacker nor a c-wizard, but that's okay (in my opinion, of course) for me. what i did and do contribute are ideas (well, some may have been pretty wacky) and i highly appreciate the effort of all contributing people, creating a serious amount of high-quality code and answering the many questions posted on the mailing lists. > Also I shudder to think that those who customize their systems would=20 > actually learn how to use all the tools available to them to prevent a=20 > makeworld from overwriting or undoing their customizations. :) this, i already learned quite a long time ago, but this does not really fix the -RELEASE giving no option on how to select subsystems before they are installed in the filesystem during bootstrap installation. and, yes, i did an own release based on -STABLE for internal use for quite some time, but this turned out to be a very time-consuming process. > I wish that we could assign a bitch rating to some of these emails. Say = a=20 > sliding bitch scale depending on how much code the bitchee has=20 > contributed. Then they could easily be filtered to /dev/null.=20 > Waddayathink? ;) ;-) i know, that my posts on the base dist "completeness" issues did not gain me a hundred points in core and the rest of the community, but i perceive the "reality" my way, in my eyes, thus certainly biased, too. i also get your point that, with my "bitch level", my reputation in the community might not have improved in the last days, but the lack of package installation manifests in general (mainly for contrib/*) is an important point in freebsd installation, deployment and administration. i and several other people do not consider this as a bikeshed question, but you are right, that code does not write itself. therefor - in my little spare time - i am currently looking into installation tracking=20 and also netbsd's syspkg concept and implementation. > Much ado about nothing, so far, RTFM. you of course mean the fine manual that comes with /usr/src/release ;-) since i spun off the whole mess, that obviously upset a lot of people, and i've received several very emotional responses (which, i must say, have nothing to do with discussion of the technical issue) i will look into the options mentioned above and contact the responsible folks when=20 i got something done. i have to add, that i never had the impression of the freebsd community in general being based on emotions rather than on technical facts. i really appreciate that greg spent his time on writing down his point of view, the facts about his part in the sendmail/freebsd and the problems he is seeing. his mail perfectly illustrates the professional attitude behind the development of freebsd, and this spirit makes it the favourite server os for many people throughout the world. regards, /k --=20 > Gravity is an unforgiving motherfucker. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 My mail is GnuPG signed -- Unsigned ones are bogus -- http://www.gnupg.org/ Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oxH0M0BPTilkv0YRAkXuAKCD4hY9yyBvk8p+mGy45g3N8XQBKACeK7SL BDws7vPlIjXKlAD87EpCKG8= =+KGZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 5: 8:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail8.nc.rr.com (fe8.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BE337B41A; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:07:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from i8k.babbleon.org ([66.57.85.154]) by mail8.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:07:25 -0500 Received: by i8k.babbleon.org (Postfix, from userid 111) id 21DCABA05; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:07:24 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian T.Schellenberger To: "Robert L Sowders" , Gregory Neil Shapiro Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:07:23 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020328130724.21DCABA05@i8k.babbleon.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday 28 March 2002 06:39 am, Robert L Sowders wrote: | Greg is absolutely correct. | | These whiners, who constantly moan for code while never contributing any, | should contribute the code if they want it changed. | | Also I shudder to think that those who customize their systems would | actually learn how to use all the tools available to them to prevent a | makeworld from overwriting or undoing their customizations. :) I was sorta wondering about that . . . The whole mailwrapper takes care of this anyway, doesn't it? At least that's what it's there for . . . don't you just re-install the port and voila! life is good again? | I wish that we could assign a bitch rating to some of these emails. Say a | sliding bitch scale depending on how much code the bitchee has | contributed. Then they could easily be filtered to /dev/null. | Waddayathink? ;) So what you are saying is that you never want people to use (or at least to customize) FreeBSD unless they are FreeBSD developers? That's the most extreme version of "we won't care about who uses it" that I've ever heard. The fact is, it's a lot more convenient for all FreeBSD users if the user base is expanded because it makes hardware and software vendors pay more attention to FreeBSD. So *some* accomidation to people who are at least willing to get their hands dirty with scripts is in the interest of the entire FreeBSD community. Sure, you don't want to lose all the benefits of FreeBSD in a mad rush to accomodate the masses -- I left the Linux fold in part becuase I felt that the mainstream distributions, at least, were going too far to do that, but it's certainly possible to go too far in the other direction as well. | Much ado about nothing, so far, RTFM. | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . . bts@wnt.sas.com (work) Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . bts@babbleon.org (personal) ME --> http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org <-- GOOD GUYS --> http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 5:18:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server26.ilap.com (server26-main.ilap.com [216.223.128.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEB037B41A for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from horechup (server13.docucom.ca [216.223.156.13]) by server26.ilap.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3/Internet Light and Power (tm) * http://ilap.com/ (tm)) with SMTP id IAA18777; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:18:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <050e01c1d65a$c8a769a0$73f8d7a5@docucom.ca> Reply-To: "Paul Horechuk" From: "Paul Horechuk" To: "Wilko Bulte" Cc: References: <20020327212138.B9745@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020327213259.B9923@freebie.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: nfs_fsync: not dirty error in 4.5-RELEASE Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:16:33 -0500 Organization: DocuCom Imaging Solutions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilko Bulte" To: "Bruce Campbell" Cc: "Doug White" ; Sent: March 27, 2002 3:32 PM Subject: Re: nfs_fsync: not dirty error in 4.5-RELEASE > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:31:36PM -0500, Bruce Campbell wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:06:12PM -0800, Doug White wrote: > > > > On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Bruce Campbell wrote: > > > > > > > > > The kernel was rebuilt with "maxusers 500" > > > > > > > > Uh. > > > > > > > > maxusers >256 has always caused crashes on my system. > > > > I have maxusers of 300 and 500 on 2 other systems, which have been up 253 > > days, and 109 days. I'll try changing it back anyway, if I get any more > > panics. Thanks for the suggestion. > > > > > set maxusers to 0 and allow the kernel to autosize. > > > > I do that on most of my FreeBSD systems, but on a few, I wanted to support > > 10,000 open files, and the default chosen by the kernel with 512MB memory > > was 7312 files. I had a similar problem with the 10,000 open files, but this was samba related. What has worked for me was to set sysctl.kern.maxfiles=12000. I picked this out of the air as being > 10000, but the errors went away. maxusers is set at 0, so there seems to be a problem with the autosizing with regards to samba at least. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 5:22:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.slavutich.kiev.ua (saturn.slavutich.kiev.ua [193.108.226.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FE337B419 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from earth.slavutich.kiev.ua (earth.slavutich.kiev.ua [193.108.226.2]) by saturn.slavutich.kiev.ua with ESMTPœ id g2SDLnd14025 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:21:49 +0200 Received: from ppp-27.slavutich.kiev.ua (ppp-27.slavutich.kiev.ua [62.244.46.90] (may be forged)) by earth.slavutich.kiev.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08275 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:21:44 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:20:16 +0200 (EET) From: "Valentyn I. Martynenko" X-X-Sender: val@home To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with compiling 4.5-stable kernel Message-ID: <20020328150827.G912-100000@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello ALL! Pleace, help me to solve problem. After system update with same config, kernel was not linking: linking kernel if.o: In function `if_setlladdr': if.o(.text+0x1b68): undefined reference to `arp_ifinit' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/home To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 5:48: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B77137B405 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2SDluGd040251 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2SDlt2O040248; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:47:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15523.7947.686758.385502@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:47:55 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Michael Nottebrock Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Base sendmail 8.12 and sasl In-Reply-To: <3CA2DEC6.7070608@gmx.net> References: <3CA2DEC6.7070608@gmx.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG michaelnottebrock> Is the old /etc/make.conf-magic that used to sasl-fy the michaelnottebrock> base 8.11 sendmail still working with 8.12 or can it be michaelnottebrock> adapted to make it work with 8.12 or should I get the michaelnottebrock> version from ports before I upgrade my -STABLE box next michaelnottebrock> time? Yes, it still works. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 6:25:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web10002.mail.yahoo.com (web10002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72AD937B41C for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:25:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020328142548.673.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.92.164.43] by web10002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:25:48 PST Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:25:48 -0800 (PST) From: Kenneth Stailey Subject: this broke ftpd -- please fix, thx To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CVS log for src/bin/ls/print.c Revision 1.19.2.5 / (download) - annotate - [select for diffs], Thu Mar 28 01:28:14 2002 UTC (12 hours, 51 minutes ago) by joe Branch: RELENG_4 Changes since 1.19.2.4: +206 -121 lines Diff to previous 1.19.2.4 (colored) to branchpoint 1.19 (colored) next main 1.20 (colored) MFC: Sync with -current, bringing all the differences into line, apart from those that are -current specific. In particular: Revamp the colour support to allow for bold characters. Colours are now defined using the characters a-h and A-H for the bold variants. The old way using 0-7 for the colours still works, but prints a message asking the user to switch. Add a new flag, -h which when combined with the -l option causes file sizes to be displayed with unit suffixes; Byte, Kilobyte, Megabyte, Gigabyte, Terabyte and Petabyte in order to reduce the number of digits to three or less. K&R->C89 source code changes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 6:37: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1645437B405 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from johncoop.MSHOME ([206.63.201.3]) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28136; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:36:39 -0800 Subject: Re: MFC of ATA driver from -current From: John Merryweather Cooper Reply-To: john_m_cooper@yahoo.com To: sos@freebsd.dk Cc: msch@snafu.de, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200203272033.g2RKX1114429@freebsd.dk> References: <200203272033.g2RKX1114429@freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Date: 28 Mar 2002 06:36:55 -0800 Message-Id: <1017326219.66891.31.camel@johncoop.MSHOME> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I also posted a stack trace. The tagged queuing panic is 100% reproducible on my machine: DFI AK74-EC with VIA 686B AMD Duron 1300 IBM 60GB IC35L060AVER07-O drive All I have to do is turned tagged queuing on in loader.conf to get a panic with all recent -STABLE builds. I volunteer to test, generate data, whatever . . . :) On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 12:33, S=F8ren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Matthias Schuendehuette wrote: > > Hello, > >=20 > > I just (Mar 27, 20:00 UTC) did a 'make update' and built a new kernel..= . > >=20 > > I still have problems with 'tagged queuing' with my . > > The kernel doesn't panic any more but tries 3 times and switches back=20 > > to PIO-Mode: >=20 > Hmm, I'm still hunting for what this can be, I cannot reproduce it > on semilar hardware here... > I'll keep hunting, but I need more info or somebody with the problem > and the time to experiment around... >=20 > -S=F8ren >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --=20 _ | |V| / ' || MacroHard -- \ \_| | | \_, || the perfection of form over | ----------------------------------|| substance, marketing over | Web: http://www.borgsdemons.com || performance, and greed over | AIM: johnmcooper || design . . . | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D/ Public Key: http://www.borgsdemons.com/Personal/pgpkey.asc | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 7:19:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843CB37B419; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2SFJ6p92423; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:19:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:19:06 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200203281519.g2SFJ6p92423@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: cliff@steam.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld broken (/usr/libexec/ftpd) Cc: joe@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020328030228.S40849-100000@lazlo.sc.steam.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 04:08:28 -0800 (PST) >From: Cliff Skolnick >CVSUP as of Thu Mar 28 03:31:01 PST 2002 >make buildworld gives me: >cc -O -pipe -DSETPROCTITLE -DSKEY -DLOGIN_CAP -DVIRTUAL_HOSTING -Wall >-DINET6 -Dmain=ls_main -I/usr/src/libexec/ftpd/../../bin/ls -o ftpd >ftpd.o ftpcmd.o logwtmp.o popen.o skey-stuff.o ls.o cmp.o print.o util.o >-lskey -lmd -lcrypt -lutil -lpam >print.o: In function `unit_adjust': >print.o(.text+0xa7c): undefined reference to `ilogb' >*** Error code 1 >... >Adding a -lm in the list of libraries in /usr/src/libexec/ftpd/Makefile >seemed to fix it, but it's not obvious (at least to me) what changed to >require this. Perhaps someone a little more familiar with things can figure >out why this broke. Same fix works here. As to cause, it looks like the recent MFC for bin/ls to permit unit suffixes. Cheers, david (links to my resume at http://www.catwhisker.org/~david) -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org I believe it would be irresponsible (and thus, unethical) for me to advise, recommend, or support the use of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product for any purpose other than personal amusement. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 7:39:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2443837B417; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2SFdOGd041623 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:39:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2SFdOj0041620; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:39:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:39:24 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Given that non-sendmail users will be inconvenienced when upgrading due to the 8.12 changes (need to change sendmail_enable from "NO" to "NONE"), I thought it might be better to give them something back for their trouble. As an alternative to sendmail_enable=NONE, why not solve the boot time problem for non-sendmail users completely. The patch moves all of the sendmail startup code from /etc/rc to /etc/rc.sendmail. The source for that script will be kept in src/etc/sendmail/rc.sendmail so make.conf's NO_SENDMAIL will prevent it from being installed. A new rc.conf variable, mta_start_script specifies the script to run to start the user's preferred MTA. For backward compatibility, it will default to /etc/rc.sendmail. The specified script is called out of /etc/rc after checking to make sure it exists. I've also taken the opportunity to use /etc/rc.sendmail in /etc/mail/Makefile to reduce code duplication. A new rc.sendmail.8 man page has also been added which now houses the sendmail_* variable descriptions formerly in rc.conf.5. In a somewhat unrelated note, I also plan on arranging to move the sendmail-specific stuff out of src/etc/mail/ and into src/etc/sendmail so the installation of things like sample sendmail maps, etc. don't clutter a NO_SENDMAIL installation. I'll need to arrange this event with the CVS repomeisters. Hopefully, this change (along with the patch) will make things more palatable for non-sendmail users. The patch is against -CURRENT but should give -STABLE users a good idea of my intentions. It is available at: http://people.freebsd.org/~gshapiro/mta-start Opinions? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 8:29:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from srv01.lrdata.com (nt01.lrdata.com [209.98.80.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7AC37B400 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:28:55 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: For review: Revised sendmail startup settings Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:32:32 -0600 Message-ID: <2CBA5E6C43C6D4439982274DE902C866113601@srv01.lrdata.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: For review: Revised sendmail startup settings Thread-Index: AcHWJq7YjeWIFI5vQWaHC2vFy0uJVwATeLRQ From: "Scott Frappier" To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you...makes my life simpler :). Scott Frappier -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Neil Shapiro [mailto:gshapiro@FreeBSD.ORG]=20 Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:59 AM To: Andre Albsmeier Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For review: Revised sendmail startup settings andre.albsmeier> One thing I don't understand here (for the case someone andre.albsmeier> sets ${sendmail_enable} to NO): andre.albsmeier> Both, ${sendmail_outbound_enable} and andre.albsmeier> ${sendmail_submit_enable} are on by andre.albsmeier> default. ${sendmail_outbound_flags} ist set to: andre.albsmeier> "-L sm-queue -q30m" andre.albsmeier> so the (var/spool/mqueue) queue is run andre.albsmeier> regularly. Additionally, ${sendmail_submit_flags} is set andre.albsmeier> to: andre.albsmeier> "-L sm-mta-submit -bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=3DAddr=3Dlocalhost" andre.albsmeier> Wouldn't the latter one be enough to run the queue because andre.albsmeier> of the -q30m? Yes, hence the patch and the new order shown in the message: if ${sendmail_enable} =3D=3D NONE # Do nothing else if ${sendmail_enable} =3D=3D YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_flags} else if ${sendmail_submit_enable} =3D=3D YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_submit_flags} else if ${sendmail_outbound_enable} =3D=3D YES start sendmail with ${sendmail_outbound_flags} endif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 9:38:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2C237B400; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:37:26 +0000 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 16qdnx-00027g-00; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:35:17 +0000 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:35:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users In-Reply-To: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > Given that non-sendmail users will be inconvenienced when upgrading due to > the 8.12 changes (need to change sendmail_enable from "NO" to "NONE"), I > thought it might be better to give them something back for their trouble. > > As an alternative to sendmail_enable=NONE, why not solve the boot time > problem for non-sendmail users completely. Hang on, what problem? I think you've already done this: if you use sendmail_enable = "YES" sendmail_flags = "whatever you normally use" and configer /etc/mail/mailer.conf properly, then if your MTA was written to teh sendmail CLI, you're out of the woods, surely? -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk printf 'cat\nhello world' | `sh -c 'read c; echo $c'` To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 9:45: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A49C37B417; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2SHisi27996; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:44:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2SHirf28806; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:44:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:44:42 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20020328.104442.07690306.imp@village.org> To: gshapiro@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <15522.46936.107162.91222@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <15522.46936.107162.91222@horsey.gshapiro.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <15522.46936.107162.91222@horsey.gshapiro.net> Gregory Neil Shapiro writes: : 1. Convert FreeBSD into a bunch of packages and let binary installations : with sysinstall (or some future installer) pick and chose or pick : from a short list of "standard" systems. Offer alternatives where : available. netbsd just did this with their syspkg stuff. : 2. Finish the /etc/rc.d/ work so it mirrors the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ : system the ports already use. That way a buildworld with : NO_SENDMAIL=yes in /etc/make.conf or not installing the sendmail : "package" in the future sysinstall (see previous item) would prevent : an /etc/rc.d/sendmail from being installed. I'd love to see this as well. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 9:45:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D3037B42A; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:45:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2) with ESMTP id g2SHj6Gd043960 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Beta2/8.12.3.Beta2/Submit) id g2SHj6bT043957; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:45:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15523.22177.949564.800131@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:45:05 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Jan Grant Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users In-Reply-To: References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jan.Grant> Hang on, what problem? I think you've already done this: if you use Jan.Grant> sendmail_enable = "YES" Jan.Grant> sendmail_flags = "whatever you normally use" And: sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" Jan.Grant> and configer /etc/mail/mailer.conf properly, then if your MTA Jan.Grant> was written to teh sendmail CLI, you're out of the woods, Jan.Grant> surely? Yes, for the particular case you mention. But others do not want to start their MTA daemon from /etc/rc (or don't want to start any daemon) and now need: sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 10:10:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr (postfix2-1.free.fr [213.228.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9DF37B425 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaio (rennes-1-a7-99-138.dial.proxad.net [62.147.99.138]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 8174E46B for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:10:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <060a01c1d683$cbd83a90$1000a8c0@vaio> From: "Michel Gravey" To: Subject: Onstream SC30 support Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:10:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I need a backup solution who is working under freebsd-stable. I'm asking if freebsd support the onstream sc30 tape drive. Any help about this stuff needeed. Thanks in advance, Michel Gravey mailto: admin@optogone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 10:42:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr (postfix2-1.free.fr [213.228.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351EA37B41B for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaio (rennes-1-a7-99-164.dial.proxad.net [62.147.99.164]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 579DD48B; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:42:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <061201c1d688$4d291980$1000a8c0@vaio> From: "Michel Gravey" To: "Holger Kipp" Cc: References: <060a01c1d683$cbd83a90$1000a8c0@vaio> <3CA35EBA.559AD6A5@alogis.com> Subject: Re: Onstream SC30 support Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:42:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have some problems using the onstream di 30 (atapi) with freebsd that's why I'm asking if the scsi version will work correctly. The di 30 is an atapi tape drive but I couldn't get it working with freebsd. Any help appreciated, Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Kipp" To: "Michel Gravey" Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Onstream SC30 support > Michel Gravey wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I need a backup solution who is working under freebsd-stable. > > I'm asking if freebsd support the onstream sc30 tape drive. > > Any help about this stuff needeed. > > The Onstream SC30 is a SCSI tapedrive, so it should work just fine > with FreeBSD. > > Regards, > Holger Kipp > > -- > Holger Kipp, Dipl.-Math., Systemadministrator | alogis AG > Fon: +49 (0)30 / 43 65 8 - 114 | Berliner Strasse 26 > Fax: +49 (0)30 / 43 65 8 - 214 | D-13507 Berlin Tegel > email: holger.kipp@alogis.com | http://www.alogis.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 10:44: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A49937B400 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from gauss ([65.96.190.131]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020328184354.VTXH2951.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@gauss> for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:43:54 +0000 Message-ID: <00c501c1d688$6d0401c0$0200a8c0@gauss> From: "Yeasah Pell" To: References: Subject: the law of the list Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:34:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > These whiners, who constantly moan for code while never contributing any, > should contribute the code if they want it changed. If you hadn't noticed, many of the changes being discussed involve a large amount of work. It is unreasonable to expect somebody to do the work with the hope that it will be accepted it without first even attempting to discern if it is a good idea. Most importantly, this is not a productive attitude, and will not encourage contribution. But sadly enough, it is a common sentiment on this list. In my mind, steps toward solving a problem like this one go something like this: 1. [ Identify problem ] 2. [ Enumerate possible solutions, and determine cost and impact of them ] 3. [ Choose solution or decide to not implement ] 4. [ Implementation (of course, there can be lots of substeps here) ] It's true that for many simple problems, there is one obvious solution, and one can just go ahead and implement it, and show up on your doorstep tomorrow with code. There are also problems of medium scope for which it is possible for one person to make these decisions quickly in their own mind. This problem does not fall into either of those categories. I'd say we're on step 2. Now all this said, I understand that there is a history of these sorts of discussions coming to a decision point, whereupon no person (including, to the annoyance of everybody on the list, the originator of the thread) steps up to the implementation plate. Avoiding this will not be accomplished by browbeating anybody who appears to fit the profile, though. One possiblity would be to have a system that maintains a pool of problems that don't yet have defined solutions. Maybe file a PR of sorts, and then qualified coders with available time who want to tackle a more architectual problem could fish in that pool. That effectively inserts a step 1.5. [ Choose implementor ] between steps 1 and 2. (It would be nice to at least discuss the problem before doing that, to avoid peppering GNATS with duplicated and/or ill-defined problems.) Create some FreeBSD document that tells people to follow these steps, and "annoying" discussions like this could be avoided. "It is freebsd-stable (or whatever) policy that problems may be discussed if and only if an individual with a proven track record of successful code submissions is signed on to implement a solution if one is chosen. If you wish to discuss something and are not yourself a proven submitter with available time, we suggest you submit a PR with this special format (or whatever), and wait for an appropriate sympathetic individual to take ownership of the problem." Ending "annoying" threads would be a simple matter of pointing the offending people at the document. Perhaps such a document exists! If so, would somebody please point me at it before I annoy the whole of the known FreeBSD world?? :-) >Also I shudder to think that those who customize their systems would >actually learn how to use all the tools available to them to prevent a >makeworld from overwriting or undoing their customizations. :) This is a good point, but it doesn't mean the system must avoid doing anything helpful at all. If you are referring to my suggestion that a default make.conf be made based on a user's installer choices, I concede that it is probably not worth doing (I think I even qualified it as such when I made the suggestion), and it might even lull people into thinking things are easier than they are. The motivation for that suggestion, however, was consistency of the system (especially in the context of other, more important suggestions), not coddling users. >I wish that we could assign a bitch rating to some of these emails. Say a >sliding bitch scale depending on how much code the bitchee has >contributed. Then they could easily be filtered to /dev/null. >Waddayathink? ;) I assume that this is said tongue-in-cheek. Ideas are best judged on the strength of the idea alone, not the credentials of the one who advances it. While relying on credentials serves as a good crutch for those unable to make their own determination of the value of an idea, I believe this list is home to many people able to make that call. I understand that this is an idealistic view of the way things work; in practice, the charisma of the person behind an idea has a lot to do with how well it is received, and their credentials factor into that. But we don't need to go about making this effect any stronger than it already is. /y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 10:46:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC8E37B48B for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id E9D1E5E2; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:46:06 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:46:06 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Kenneth Stailey Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this broke ftpd -- please fix, thx Message-ID: <20020328184606.GC95895@genius.tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Kenneth Stailey , stable@freebsd.org References: <20020328142548.673.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oTHb8nViIGeoXxdp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020328142548.673.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --oTHb8nViIGeoXxdp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 06:25:48AM -0800, Kenneth Stailey wrote: > CVS log for src/bin/ls/print.c This is now fixed, although it might take an hour or so to purculate to the cvsup servers. Joe --oTHb8nViIGeoXxdp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyjZO4ACgkQXVIcjOaxUBYWowCffLKPUEjVkB4IE4JdZ3/aG7i4 3NcAoK9sKUJPdoBb/nIM7a8Eam7LYZKR =M+x6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oTHb8nViIGeoXxdp-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 10:47:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BFC37B41B for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:47:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gauss ([65.96.190.131]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020328184726.HVJH1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@gauss> for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:47:26 +0000 Message-ID: <00d501c1d688$f35031e0$0200a8c0@gauss> From: "Yeasah Pell" To: References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:47:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This appears to address all of my concerns directly relating to sendmail in one relatively simple and well thought out patch. I think this sort of insulation is valuable to everybody, including those who currently *do* use sendmail. Well done! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Neil Shapiro" > Given that non-sendmail users will be inconvenienced when upgrading due to > the 8.12 changes (need to change sendmail_enable from "NO" to "NONE"), I > thought it might be better to give them something back for their trouble. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 10:48:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dino.creativens.net (216.187.75.67.novustelecom.net [216.187.75.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1872237B42B for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:44:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23905 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2002 18:54:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mrichards) (209.139.212.34) by 216.187.75.67.novustelecom.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2002 18:54:06 -0000 Message-ID: <06cb01c1d688$971e0d70$460111ac@voyus.com> From: "Mike Richards" To: , Subject: XFree86 problem with fonts. Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:44:27 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_06C8_01C1D645.88C6EC30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_06C8_01C1D645.88C6EC30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, This is an error I get when installing the fonts collection for X. = I will also attach below the information from the XFree86 log file and = my basic system info. Thanx for any help!=20 **********************************************(basic system info) Pentium III 600 portstree updated to RELENG_4_5 (as of Monday Mar 25) Really don't have much more information that would probably be useful .. = newish to BSD :) Or atleast new to having problems with it. ********************************************** (ports compile error) bash-2.05a$ make install =3D=3D=3D> XFree86-4-font100dpi =3D=3D=3D> Building for XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 (cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings && = make all) making all in ./large... rm -f encodings.dir fonts.dir + /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir -r -p = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/large/ -e . . /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir: Undefined symbol = "FontEncIdentify" *** Error code 1 Stop in = /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings/large. *** Error code 1 Stop in = /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts. ******************************************* (XFree86.0.log) XFree86 Version 4.1.0 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) Release Date: 2 June 2001 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.5 i386 [ELF]=20 Module Loader present (=3D=3D) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Thu Mar 28 09:35:14 = 2002 (=3D=3D) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (=3D=3D) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (=3D=3D) ServerLayout "Simple Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "viewe771a" (**) | |-->Device "atirageiic" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1" (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc101" (**) XKB: model: "pc101" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) XKB: layout: "us" (=3D=3D) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in = "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in = "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in = "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in = "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in = "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in = "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in = "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"). (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (=3D=3D) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (II) xf86ReadBIOS(f8000, e80, Buf, 2)-> 75 e5 9c fb... (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2 (II) Loader running on freebsd (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages =3D 0x03, oldVal1 =3D 0x00000000, mode1Res1 =3D = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7180 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,00,00 = hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7181 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,04,00 = hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,7110 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 = hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 8086,7111 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 = hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 8086,7112 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 = hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 8086,7113 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,80,00 = hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 10b7,9055 card 10b7,9055 rev 30 class 02,00,00 = hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,475a card 1002,0088 rev 3a class 03,00,00 = hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) LoadModule: "scanpci" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Module scanpci: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) UnloadModule: "scanpci" (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0b (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 1 I/O range: [0] -1 0x0000c000 - 0x0000cfff (0x1000) IX[B] (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0xefe00000 - 0xefefffff (0x100000) MX[B] (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0xe5c00000 - 0xe7cfffff (0x2100000) MX[B] (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus -1 I/O range: (II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range: (II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range: (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Mach64 GZ rev 58, Mem @ 0xe6000000/24, = 0xefeff000/12, I/O @ 0xcc00/8, BIOS @ 0xefec0000/17 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E [1] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [4] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [5] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [6] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E [7] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E [8] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B) (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E [1] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [4] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [5] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [6] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E [7] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E [8] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B) (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E [6] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [11] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [12] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [13] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E [14] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E [15] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B) (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a (II) Module dbe: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a (II) Module extmod: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension FontCache (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a (II) Module type1: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) Loading font CID (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a (II) Module freetype: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.1.9 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "ati" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o (II) Module ati: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 6.3.6 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.2 (II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.3.6) for chipsets: ati, ativga (II) R128: Driver for ATI Rage 128 chipsets: ATI Rage 128 RE (PCI), ATI Rage 128 RF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RG (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RK (PCI), ATI Rage 128 RL (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro PD (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Xpert 128 (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Pro PF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility LE (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Mobility LF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility ML (AGP) (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP), ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP), ATI Radeon VE (AGP) (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (II) ATI: Candidate "Device" section "atirageiic". (II) ATI: Unshared 8514/A not probed. (II) ATI: Unshared Mach64 at PIO base 0x02EC not probed. (II) ATI: Shared PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 detected. (II) ATI: Shared PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 assigned to active = "Device" section "atirageiic". (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E [6] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [11] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [12] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [13] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E [14] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E [15] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B) (II) Loading sub module "atimisc" (II) LoadModule: "atimisc" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o (II) Module atimisc: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 6.3.6 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E [6] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [10] 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [11] 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [12] 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [13] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [14] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [15] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [16] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E [17] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E [18] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B) [19] 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] [20] 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Chipset: "ati". (**) ATI(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 (II) Loading sub module "int10" (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a (II) Module int10: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already = clear (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xf0000,0x10000) (II) xf86ReadBIOS(0, 0, Buf, 600)-> 90 6b 00 f0... (II) xf86ReadBIOS(c0000, 0, Buf, 10000)-> 55 aa 40 eb... (II) xf86ReadBIOS(d0000, 0, Buf, 10000)-> ff ff ff ff... (II) xf86ReadBIOS(e0000, 0, Buf, 10000)-> ff ff ff ff... (II) ATI(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) Module ddc: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "vbe" (II) LoadModule: "vbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a (II) Module vbe: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) ATI(0): VESA BIOS detected (II) ATI(0): VESA VBE Version 2.0 (II) ATI(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 2048 kB (II) ATI(0): VESA VBE OEM: ATI MACH64 (II) ATI(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0 (II) ATI(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. (II) ATI(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: MACH64GT (II) ATI(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: 01.00 (II) ATI(0): VESA VBE DDC supported (II) ATI(0): VESA VBE DDC Level 2 (II) ATI(0): VESA VBE DDC transfer in appr. 2 sec. (II) ATI(0): VESA VBE DDC read successfully (II) ATI(0): Manufacturer: VSC Model: 4844 Serial#: 7084 (II) ATI(0): Year: 1999 Week: 23 (II) ATI(0): EDID Version: 1.1 (II) ATI(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.700 V (II) ATI(0): Sync: Separate (II) ATI(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 32 vert.: 24 (II) ATI(0): Gamma: 2.77 (II) ATI(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display (II) ATI(0): redX: 0.630 redY: 0.340 greenX: 0.280 greenY: 0.601 (II) ATI(0): blueX: 0.145 blueY: 0.061 whiteX: 0.281 whiteY: 0.311 (II) ATI(0): Supported VESA Video Modes: (II) ATI(0): 720x400@70Hz (II) ATI(0): 720x400@88Hz (II) ATI(0): 640x480@60Hz (II) ATI(0): 640x480@67Hz (II) ATI(0): 640x480@72Hz (II) ATI(0): 640x480@75Hz (II) ATI(0): 800x600@56Hz (II) ATI(0): 800x600@60Hz (II) ATI(0): 800x600@72Hz (II) ATI(0): 800x600@75Hz (II) ATI(0): 832x624@75Hz (II) ATI(0): 1024x768@87Hz (interlaced) (II) ATI(0): 1024x768@60Hz (II) ATI(0): 1024x768@70Hz (II) ATI(0): 1024x768@75Hz (II) ATI(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) ATI(0): Supported Future Video Modes: (II) ATI(0): #0: hsize: 640 vsize 480 refresh: 85 vid: 22833 (II) ATI(0): #1: hsize: 800 vsize 600 refresh: 85 vid: 22853 (II) ATI(0): #2: hsize: 1024 vsize 768 refresh: 85 vid: 22881 (II) ATI(0): #3: hsize: 1152 vsize 864 refresh: 75 vid: 20337 (II) ATI(0): #4: hsize: 1280 vsize 960 refresh: 60 vid: 16513 (II) ATI(0): #5: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897 (II) ATI(0): Serial No: DH92307084 (II) ATI(0): Ranges: V min: 50 V max: 120 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 70 kHz, = PixClock max 2550 MHz (II) ATI(0): Monitor name: ViewSonic E77 (II) ATI(0): Monitor name: 1-3 (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already = clear (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xefeff000,0x1000) was already = clear (--) ATI(0): ATI 3D Rage IIc graphics controller detected. (--) ATI(0): Chip type 475A "GZ", version 2, foundry UMC, class 0, = revision 0x00. (--) ATI(0): AGP bus interface detected; block I/O base is 0xCC00. (--) ATI(0): ATI Mach64 adapter detected. (--) ATI(0): Internal RAMDAC (subtype 1) detected. (=3D=3D) ATI(0): RGB weight 565 (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Default visual is TrueColor (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) ATI(0): Using Mach64 accelerator CRTC. (II) ATI(0): Storing hardware cursor image at 0xE61FFC00. (II) ATI(0): Using 8 MB linear aperture at 0xE6000000. (!!) ATI(0): Virtual resolutions will be limited to 2047 kB due to linear aperture size and/or placement of hardware cursor image = area. (II) ATI(0): Using Block 0 MMIO aperture at 0xEFEFF400. (II) ATI(0): Using Block 1 MMIO aperture at 0xEFEFF000. (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already = clear (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xe6000000,0x200000) (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xefeff000,0x1000) was already = clear (II) ATI(0): MMIO write caching enabled. (--) ATI(0): 2048 kB of Pseudo-EDO DRAM detected (using 2047 kB). (WW) ATI(0): Cannot shadow an accelerated frame buffer. (--) ATI(0): Internal programmable clock generator detected. (--) ATI(0): Reference clock 157.5/11 (14.318) MHz. (II) ATI(0): viewe771a: Using hsync range of 31.50-57.00 kHz (II) ATI(0): viewe771a: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-90.00 Hz (II) ATI(0): Maximum clock: 230.00 MHz (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (hsync out of range) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (insufficient memory for = mode) (II) ATI(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name) (--) ATI(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024) (**) ATI(0): Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (II) ATI(0): Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 = 806 -hsync -vsync (**) ATI(0): Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz (II) ATI(0): Modeline "800x600" 56.30 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 = +hsync +vsync (--) ATI(0): Display dimensions: (32, 24) cm (--) ATI(0): DPI set to (81, 81) (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a (II) Module xaa: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a (II) Module ramdac: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Module fb: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation, version 0.1 (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] 0 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MS[B] [1] 0 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MS[B] [2] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [4] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [5] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [6] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [7] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E [8] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [11] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [12] 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprU) [13] 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprU) [14] 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprU) [15] 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IS[B] [16] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [17] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [18] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [19] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E [20] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E [21] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B) [22] 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU) [23] 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU) (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already = clear (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xe6000000,0x200000) (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xefeff000,0x1000) was already = clear (II) ATI(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Lines Offscreen Pixmaps Setting up tile and stipple cache: 8 128x128 slots (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Backing store disabled (=3D=3D) ATI(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension LBX (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (**) Option "Protocol" "Microsoft" (**) Mouse1: Protocol: "Microsoft" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse1: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" (=3D=3D) Mouse1: Buttons: 3 (**) Option "Emulate3Buttons" (**) Mouse1: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Mouse1: BaudRate: 1200 (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by legacy driver (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE) (WW) fcntl(6, F_SETOWN): Inappropriate ioctl for device Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org. Mike Richards ------=_NextPart_000_06C8_01C1D645.88C6EC30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
    This is an error I = get when=20 installing the fonts collection for X.  I will also attach below = the=20 information from the XFree86 log file and my basic system info.  = Thanx for=20 any help!
 
**********************************************(basic system=20 info)
Pentium III 600
portstree updated to RELENG_4_5 (as of = Monday Mar=20 25)
Really don't have much more information = that would=20 probably be useful .. newish to BSD :)  Or atleast new to having = problems=20 with it.
**********************************************=20 (ports compile error)
 
bash-2.05a$ make = install
=3D=3D=3D>=20 XFree86-4-font100dpi
=3D=3D=3D>  Building for=20 XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0
(cd=20 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings=20 &&  make all)
making all in ./large...
rm -f = encodings.dir=20 fonts.dir
+ /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir -r -p=20 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/large/ -e . = .
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1:=20 /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir: Undefined symbol "FontEncIdentify"
*** = Error code=20 1
 
Stop in=20 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings/large.<= BR>***=20 Error code 1
 
Stop in=20 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings.
***= Error=20 code 1
 
Stop in=20 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
*** Error code = 1
 
Stop in=20 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
*** Error code = 1
 
Stop in=20 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
*** Error code = 1
 
Stop in=20 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
*** Error code = 1
 
Stop in = /usr/ports/x11-fonts.
 
******************************************* =20 (XFree86.0.log)
 
 

XFree86 Version 4.1.0 / X Window System

(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)

Release Date: 2 June 2001

If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is

newer than the above date, look for a newer version before

reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)

Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.5 i386 [ELF]

Module Loader present

(=3D=3D) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Thu Mar 28 = 09:35:14 2002

(=3D=3D) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"

Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (=3D=3D) default = setting,

(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,

(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.

(=3D=3D) ServerLayout "Simple Layout"

(**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0)

(**) | |-->Monitor "viewe771a"

(**) | |-->Device "atirageiic"

(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"

(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"

(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"

(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"

(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"

(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc101"

(**) XKB: model: "pc101"

(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"

(**) XKB: layout: "us"

(=3D=3D) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled

(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in=20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/".

Entry deleted from font path.

(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/").

(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in=20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/".

Entry deleted from font path.

(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/").

(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in=20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/".

Entry deleted from font path.

(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/").

(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in=20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/".

Entry deleted from font path.

(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/").

(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in=20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/".

Entry deleted from font path.

(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/").

(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in=20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/".

Entry deleted from font path.

(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/").

(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in=20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/".

Entry deleted from font path.

(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/").

(**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"

(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

(=3D=3D) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"

(II) xf86ReadBIOS(f8000, e80, Buf, 2)-> 75 e5 9c fb...

(--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)

(--) using VT number 9

(II) Module ABI versions:

XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1

XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4

XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2

XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1

XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2

(II) Loader running on freebsd

(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a

(II) Module bitmap: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0

Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer

ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2

(II) Loading font Bitmap

(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a

(II) Module pcidata: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 0.1.0

ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4

(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1

(II) PCI: Config type is 1

(II) PCI: stages =3D 0x03, oldVal1 =3D 0x00000000, mode1Res1 =3D = 0x80000000

(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)

(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7180 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class = 06,00,00 hdr=20 00

(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7181 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class = 06,04,00 hdr=20 01

(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,7110 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class = 06,01,00 hdr=20 80

(II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 8086,7111 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class = 01,01,80 hdr=20 00

(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 8086,7112 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class = 0c,03,00 hdr=20 00

(II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 8086,7113 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class = 06,80,00 hdr=20 00

(II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 10b7,9055 card 10b7,9055 rev 30 class = 02,00,00 hdr=20 00

(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,475a card 1002,0088 rev 3a class = 03,00,00 hdr=20 00

(II) PCI: End of PCI scan

(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a

(II) Module scanpci: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 0.1.0

ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4

(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"

(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a

(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:

(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:

(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:

(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is = set)

(II) Bus 0 I/O range:

[0] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]

(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]

(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]

(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0b (VGA_EN is = set)

(II) Bus 1 I/O range:

[0] -1 0x0000c000 - 0x0000cfff (0x1000) IX[B]

(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0xefe00000 - 0xefefffff (0x100000) MX[B]

(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:

[0] -1 0xe5c00000 - 0xe7cfffff (0x2100000) MX[B]

(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is = set)

(II) Bus -1 I/O range:

(II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range:

(II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range:

(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Mach64 GZ rev 58, Mem @ 0xe6000000/24, = 0xefeff000/12,=20 I/O @ 0xcc00/8, BIOS @ 0xefec0000/17

(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are

[0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]

[1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]

(II) OS-reported resource ranges:

[0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)

[1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)

[2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]

[3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]

[4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]

[5] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]

[6] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]

(II) Active PCI resource ranges:

[0] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E

[1] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E

[2] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B)

[3] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B)

[4] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)

[5] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E

[6] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E

[7] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E

[8] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B)

(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:

[0] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E

[1] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E

[2] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B)

[3] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B)

[4] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)

[5] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E

[6] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E

[7] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E

[8] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B)

(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with = PCI:

[0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)

[1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)

[2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]

[3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]

[4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]

[5] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]

[6] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]

(II) All system resource ranges:

[0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)

[1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)

[2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]

[3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]

[4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]

[5] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E

[6] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E

[7] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B)

[8] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B)

[9] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)

[10] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]

[11] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]

[12] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E

[13] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E

[14] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E

[15] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B)

(II) LoadModule: "dbe"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a

(II) Module dbe: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0

Module class: XFree86 Server Extension

ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1

(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER

(II) LoadModule: "extmod"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a

(II) Module extmod: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0

Module class: XFree86 Server Extension

ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1

(II) Loading extension SHAPE

(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD

(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS

(II) Loading extension SYNC

(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER

(II) Loading extension XC-MISC

(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension

(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc

(II) Loading extension DPMS

(II) Loading extension FontCache

(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP

(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information

(II) Loading extension XVideo

(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation

(II) LoadModule: "type1"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a

(II) Module type1: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0

Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer

ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2

(II) Loading font Type1

(II) Loading font CID

(II) LoadModule: "freetype"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a

(II) Module freetype: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.1.9

Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer

ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2

(II) Loading font FreeType

(II) LoadModule: "ati"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o

(II) Module ati: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 6.3.6

Module class: XFree86 Video Driver

ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4

(II) LoadModule: "mouse"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o

(II) Module mouse: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0

Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver

ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.2

(II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.3.6) for chipsets: ati, ativga

(II) R128: Driver for ATI Rage 128 chipsets: ATI Rage 128 RE = (PCI),

ATI Rage 128 RF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RG (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RK = (PCI),

ATI Rage 128 RL (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro PD (PCI),

ATI Rage 128 Xpert 128 (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Pro PF (AGP),

ATI Rage 128 Mobility LE (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Mobility LF (AGP),

ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility ML (AGP)

(II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP),

ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP),

ATI Radeon VE (AGP)

(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0

(II) ATI: Candidate "Device" section "atirageiic".

(II) ATI: Unshared 8514/A not probed.

(II) ATI: Unshared Mach64 at PIO base 0x02EC not probed.

(II) ATI: Shared PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 detected.

(II) ATI: Shared PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 assigned to active = "Device"=20 section "atirageiic".

(II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call:

[0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)

[1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)

[2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]

[3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]

[4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]

[5] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E

[6] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E

[7] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B)

[8] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B)

[9] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)

[10] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]

[11] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]

[12] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E

[13] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E

[14] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E

[15] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B)

(II) Loading sub module "atimisc"

(II) LoadModule: "atimisc"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o

(II) Module atimisc: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 6.3.6

Module class: XFree86 Video Driver

ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4

(II) resource ranges after probing:

[0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)

[1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)

[2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]

[3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]

[4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]

[5] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E

[6] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E

[7] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B)

[8] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B)

[9] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)

[10] 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B]

[11] 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B]

[12] 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B]

[13] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]

[14] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]

[15] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E

[16] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E

[17] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E

[18] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B)

[19] 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B]

[20] 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B]

(II) Setting vga for screen 0.

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Chipset: "ati".

(**) ATI(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16

(II) Loading sub module "int10"

(II) LoadModule: "int10"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a

(II) Module int10: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0

ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x20000) was already = clear

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xf0000,0x10000)

(II) xf86ReadBIOS(0, 0, Buf, 600)-> 90 6b 00 f0...

(II) xf86ReadBIOS(c0000, 0, Buf, 10000)-> 55 aa 40 eb...

(II) xf86ReadBIOS(d0000, 0, Buf, 10000)-> ff ff ff ff...

(II) xf86ReadBIOS(e0000, 0, Buf, 10000)-> ff ff ff ff...

(II) ATI(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000

(II) Loading sub module "ddc"

(II) LoadModule: "ddc"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a

(II) Module ddc: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0

ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4

(II) Loading sub module "vbe"

(II) LoadModule: "vbe"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a

(II) Module vbe: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0

ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4

(II) ATI(0): VESA BIOS detected

(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE Version 2.0

(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 2048 kB

(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE OEM: ATI MACH64

(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0

(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.

(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: MACH64GT

(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: 01.00

(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE DDC supported

(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE DDC Level 2

(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE DDC transfer in appr. 2 sec.

(II) ATI(0): VESA VBE DDC read successfully

(II) ATI(0): Manufacturer: VSC Model: 4844 Serial#: 7084

(II) ATI(0): Year: 1999 Week: 23

(II) ATI(0): EDID Version: 1.1

(II) ATI(0): Analog Display Input, Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.700 = V

(II) ATI(0): Sync: Separate

(II) ATI(0): Max H-Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 32 vert.: 24

(II) ATI(0): Gamma: 2.77

(II) ATI(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color = Display

(II) ATI(0): redX: 0.630 redY: 0.340 greenX: 0.280 greenY: 0.601

(II) ATI(0): blueX: 0.145 blueY: 0.061 whiteX: 0.281 whiteY: = 0.311

(II) ATI(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:

(II) ATI(0): 720x400@70Hz

(II) ATI(0): 720x400@88Hz

(II) ATI(0): 640x480@60Hz

(II) ATI(0): 640x480@67Hz

(II) ATI(0): 640x480@72Hz

(II) ATI(0): 640x480@75Hz

(II) ATI(0): 800x600@56Hz

(II) ATI(0): 800x600@60Hz

(II) ATI(0): 800x600@72Hz

(II) ATI(0): 800x600@75Hz

(II) ATI(0): 832x624@75Hz

(II) ATI(0): 1024x768@87Hz (interlaced)

(II) ATI(0): 1024x768@60Hz

(II) ATI(0): 1024x768@70Hz

(II) ATI(0): 1024x768@75Hz

(II) ATI(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0

(II) ATI(0): Supported Future Video Modes:

(II) ATI(0): #0: hsize: 640 vsize 480 refresh: 85 vid: 22833

(II) ATI(0): #1: hsize: 800 vsize 600 refresh: 85 vid: 22853

(II) ATI(0): #2: hsize: 1024 vsize 768 refresh: 85 vid: 22881

(II) ATI(0): #3: hsize: 1152 vsize 864 refresh: 75 vid: 20337

(II) ATI(0): #4: hsize: 1280 vsize 960 refresh: 60 vid: 16513

(II) ATI(0): #5: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 60 vid: 32897

(II) ATI(0): Serial No: DH92307084

(II) ATI(0): Ranges: V min: 50 V max: 120 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 70 = kHz,=20 PixClock max 2550 MHz

(II) ATI(0): Monitor name: ViewSonic E77

(II) ATI(0): Monitor name: 1-3

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already = clear

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xefeff000,0x1000) was = already clear

(--) ATI(0): ATI 3D Rage IIc graphics controller detected.

(--) ATI(0): Chip type 475A "GZ", version 2, foundry UMC, class 0, = revision=20 0x00.

(--) ATI(0): AGP bus interface detected; block I/O base is = 0xCC00.

(--) ATI(0): ATI Mach64 adapter detected.

(--) ATI(0): Internal RAMDAC (subtype 1) detected.

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): RGB weight 565

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Default visual is TrueColor

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)

(II) ATI(0): Using Mach64 accelerator CRTC.

(II) ATI(0): Storing hardware cursor image at 0xE61FFC00.

(II) ATI(0): Using 8 MB linear aperture at 0xE6000000.

(!!) ATI(0): Virtual resolutions will be limited to 2047 kB

due to linear aperture size and/or placement of hardware cursor image = area.

(II) ATI(0): Using Block 0 MMIO aperture at 0xEFEFF400.

(II) ATI(0): Using Block 1 MMIO aperture at 0xEFEFF000.

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already = clear

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xe6000000,0x200000)

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xefeff000,0x1000) was = already clear

(II) ATI(0): MMIO write caching enabled.

(--) ATI(0): 2048 kB of Pseudo-EDO DRAM detected (using 2047 kB).

(WW) ATI(0): Cannot shadow an accelerated frame buffer.

(--) ATI(0): Internal programmable clock generator detected.

(--) ATI(0): Reference clock 157.5/11 (14.318) MHz.

(II) ATI(0): viewe771a: Using hsync range of 31.50-57.00 kHz

(II) ATI(0): viewe771a: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-90.00 Hz

(II) ATI(0): Maximum clock: 230.00 MHz

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of = range)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of = range)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (hsync out of = range)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (insufficient memory = for=20 mode)

(II) ATI(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name)

(--) ATI(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024)

(**) ATI(0): Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz

(II) ATI(0): Modeline "1024x768" 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 = 777 806=20 -hsync -vsync

(**) ATI(0): Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz

(II) ATI(0): Modeline "800x600" 56.30 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 = 631 +hsync=20 +vsync

(--) ATI(0): Display dimensions: (32, 24) cm

(--) ATI(0): DPI set to (81, 81)

(II) Loading sub module "xaa"

(II) LoadModule: "xaa"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a

(II) Module xaa: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0

ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4

(II) Loading sub module "ramdac"

(II) LoadModule: "ramdac"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a

(II) Module ramdac: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 0.1.0

ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4

(II) Loading sub module "fb"

(II) LoadModule: "fb"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a

(II) Module fb: vendor=3D"The XFree86 Project"

compiled for 4.1.0, module version =3D 1.0.0

ABI class: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation, version 0.1

(II) do I need RAC? No, I don't.

(II) resource ranges after preInit:

[0] 0 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MS[B]

[1] 0 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MS[B]

[2] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)

[3] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)

[4] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]

[5] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]

[6] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]

[7] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E

[8] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E

[9] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B)

[10] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B)

[11] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)

[12] 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprU)

[13] 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprU)

[14] 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprU)

[15] 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IS[B]

[16] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]

[17] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]

[18] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E

[19] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E

[20] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E

[21] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B)

[22] 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU)

[23] 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU)

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already = clear

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xe6000000,0x200000)

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xefeff000,0x1000) was = already clear

(II) ATI(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)

Screen to screen bit blits

Solid filled rectangles

8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles

Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion

Solid Lines

Offscreen Pixmaps

Setting up tile and stipple cache:

8 128x128 slots

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Backing store disabled

(=3D=3D) ATI(0): Silken mouse enabled

(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM

(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension

(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST

(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD

(II) Initializing built-in extension LBX

(II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP

(II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY

(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA

(II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont

(II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER

(**) Option "Protocol" "Microsoft"

(**) Mouse1: Protocol: "Microsoft"

(**) Option "CorePointer"

(**) Mouse1: Core Pointer

(**) Option "Device" "/dev/psm0"

(=3D=3D) Mouse1: Buttons: 3

(**) Option "Emulate3Buttons"

(**) Mouse1: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50

(**) Option "BaudRate" "1200"

(**) Mouse1: BaudRate: 1200

(II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by legacy driver

(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE)

(WW) fcntl(6, F_SETOWN): Inappropriate ioctl for device

Fatal server error:

could not open default font 'fixed'

When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send

the full server output, not just the last messages.

This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log".

Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org.

Mike Richards

------=_NextPart_000_06C8_01C1D645.88C6EC30-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 10:58:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026A037B417 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g2SIwBg32227; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:58:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:58:11 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200203281858.g2SIwBg32227@apollo.backplane.com> To: Daniel Schales Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfs_fsync: not dirty error in 4.5-RELEASE References: <20020327221059.L45447-100000@stardust.latech.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Wilko Bulte wrote: : :> OK. I suppose you might want to try to catch a panic dump if you can. :> : :I don't think it's the maxusers setting. I filed a PR on this last week, :my maxusers was set to 0. The PR contains a back trace as well. :I don't have the number handy. I am running 4.5-STABLE (early March) :and have experienced this on three different systems. : :Danny If someone can get a kernel.debug and panic dump together showing the problem, I'll try to track it down. It may require some diagnostic code, though, to record who cleared B_DELWRI on the buffer in question. From my quick perusal the panic is correct... NFS is pulling a buffer off the vnode's dirty queue and that buffer is expected to have B_DELWRI set on it. If reducing kern.maxfiles stops the problem from occuring then the bug could be an indrect effect of some other system resource running out. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 11: 3:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alicia.nttmcl.com (alicia.nttmcl.com [216.69.69.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0693937B405 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:03:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jj@localhost) by alicia.nttmcl.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g2SJ3Zq04846 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:03:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:03:35 -0800 From: JJ Behrens To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the law of the list Message-ID: <20020328110335.A468@alicia.nttmcl.com> References: <00c501c1d688$6d0401c0$0200a8c0@gauss> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <00c501c1d688$6d0401c0$0200a8c0@gauss>; from yeasah@apocalypse.org on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 01:34:52PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : > > These whiners, who constantly moan for code while never contributing any, > > should contribute the code if they want it changed. Dear Sir, During what part of "I volunteer" was I whining? If you are interested in a list of my previous open source contributions, do a search for "jj behrens" on Google or have a look at . Surely, I'm no superstar, but I'm not a whiner either. : > 1. [ Identify problem ] > 2. [ Enumerate possible solutions, and determine cost and impact of them ] > 3. [ Choose solution or decide to not implement ] > 4. [ Implementation (of course, there can be lots of substeps here) ] Since I don't have any history working on the base system itself, I could appreciate some direction. For instance, I'd be willing to help get Perl out of the base system by porting things to sh/sed/awk. What should I port first? Greg, thank you for your clarifying comments! Best Regards, -jj -- X is a plot by Microsoft to slow down the open source world. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 11:12:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D840837B41C for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gauss ([65.96.190.131]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020328191214.GNSV1147.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@gauss>; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:12:14 +0000 Message-ID: <011c01c1d68c$6a597e60$0200a8c0@gauss> From: "Yeasah Pell" To: "Mike Richards" , References: <06cb01c1d688$971e0d70$460111ac@voyus.com> Subject: Re: XFree86 problem with fonts. Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:11:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0114_01C1D662.7FAE4130" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C1D662.7FAE4130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check the versions of your XFree86 packages, e.g. "pkg_info | grep ^X". = They should be similar versions, (not counting the port version part of = the name after the '_' character) especially -clients and -libraries. If = not, upgrade libraries first, then the other stuff as necessary. /y ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike Richards=20 To: xpert@xfree86.org ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:44 PM Subject: XFree86 problem with fonts. Hey, This is an error I get when installing the fonts collection for X. = I will also attach below the information from the XFree86 log file and = my basic system info. Thanx for any help!=20 **********************************************(basic system info) Pentium III 600 portstree updated to RELENG_4_5 (as of Monday Mar 25) Really don't have much more information that would probably be useful = .. newish to BSD :) Or atleast new to having problems with it. ********************************************** (ports compile error) bash-2.05a$ make install =3D=3D=3D> XFree86-4-font100dpi =3D=3D=3D> Building for XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 (cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings = && make all) making all in ./large... rm -f encodings.dir fonts.dir + /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir -r -p = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/large/ -e . . /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir: Undefined symbol = "FontEncIdentify" *** Error code 1 Stop in = /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings/large. *** Error code 1 Stop in = /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts. ------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C1D662.7FAE4130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Check the versions of your XFree86 = packages, e.g.=20 "pkg_info | grep ^X". They should be similar versions, (not counting the = port=20 version part of the name after the '_' character) especially -clients = and=20 -libraries. If not, upgrade libraries first, then the other stuff as=20 necessary.
 
/y
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mike=20 Richards
To: xpert@xfree86.org ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG=
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 = 1:44=20 PM
Subject: XFree86 problem with=20 fonts.

Hey,
    This is an error I = get when=20 installing the fonts collection for X.  I will also attach below = the=20 information from the XFree86 log file and my basic system info.  = Thanx=20 for any help!
 
**********************************************(basic system=20 info)
Pentium III 600
portstree updated to RELENG_4_5 (as = of Monday Mar=20 25)
Really don't have much more = information that=20 would probably be useful .. newish to BSD :)  Or atleast new to = having=20 problems with it.
**********************************************=20 (ports compile error)
 
bash-2.05a$ make = install
=3D=3D=3D>=20 XFree86-4-font100dpi
=3D=3D=3D>  Building for=20 XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0
(cd=20 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings=20 &&  make all)
making all in ./large...
rm -f = encodings.dir=20 fonts.dir
+ /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir -r -p=20 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/large/ -e . = .
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1:=20 /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir: Undefined symbol "FontEncIdentify"
*** = Error code=20 1
 
Stop in=20 = /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings/large.<= BR>***=20 Error code 1
 
Stop in=20 = /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings.
***= =20 Error code 1
 
Stop in=20 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
*** Error code = 1
 
Stop in=20 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
*** Error code = 1
 
Stop in=20 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
*** Error code = 1
 
Stop in=20 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
*** Error code = 1
 
Stop in = /usr/ports/x11-fonts.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C1D662.7FAE4130-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 11:23:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dino.creativens.net (216.187.75.67.novustelecom.net [216.187.75.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B68F37B416 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25608 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2002 19:32:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mrichards) (209.139.212.34) by 216.187.75.67.novustelecom.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2002 19:32:28 -0000 Message-ID: <06eb01c1d68d$f35dad20$460111ac@voyus.com> From: "Mike Richards" To: , Subject: Fw: XFree86 problem with fonts. Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:22:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This will be the condensed version in HTML as it got held up :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Richards To: xpert@xfree86.org ; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:44 AM Subject: XFree86 problem with fonts. Hey, This is an error I get when installing the fonts collection for X. I will also attach below the information from the XFree86 log file and my basic system info. Thanx for any help! **********************************************(basic system info) Pentium III 600 portstree updated to RELENG_4_5 (as of Monday Mar 25) Really don't have much more information that would probably be useful .. newish to BSD :) Or atleast new to having problems with it. ********************************************** (ports compile error) bash-2.05a$ make install ===> XFree86-4-font100dpi ===> Building for XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 (cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings && make all) making all in ./large... rm -f encodings.dir fonts.dir + /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir -r -p /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/large/ -e . . /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir: Undefined symbol "FontEncIdentify" *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings/large. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts. ******************************************* (XFree86.0.log) XFree86 Version 4.1.0 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) Release Date: 2 June 2001 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.5 i386 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Thu Mar 28 09:35:14 2002 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "viewe771a" (**) | |-->Device "atirageiic" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1" (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc101" (**) XKB: model: "pc101" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) XKB: layout: "us" (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"). (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (II) xf86ReadBIOS(f8000, e80, Buf, 2)-> 75 e5 9c fb... (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2 (II) Loader running on freebsd (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7180 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7181 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,7110 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 8086,7111 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 8086,7112 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 8086,7113 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 10b7,9055 card 10b7,9055 rev 30 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,475a card 1002,0088 rev 3a class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) LoadModule: "scanpci" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) UnloadModule: "scanpci" (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0b (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 1 I/O range: [0] -1 0x0000c000 - 0x0000cfff (0x1000) IX[B] (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0xefe00000 - 0xefefffff (0x100000) MX[B] (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0xe5c00000 - 0xe7cfffff (0x2100000) MX[B] (II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus -1 I/O range: (II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range: (II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range: (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Mach64 GZ rev 58, Mem @ 0xe6000000/24, 0xefeff000/12, I/O @ 0xcc00/8, BIOS @ 0xefec0000/17 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) Active PCI resource ranges: [0] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E [1] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [4] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [5] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [6] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E [7] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E [8] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B) (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: [0] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E [1] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [2] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [4] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [5] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [6] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E [7] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E [8] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B) (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [6] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) All system resource ranges: [0] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [4] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [5] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E [6] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [7] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [11] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [12] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [13] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E [14] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E [15] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B) (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a (II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a (II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension FontCache (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a (II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) Loading font CID (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a (II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.1.9 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "ati" (excerpted info that was likely unecessary about video) (--) ATI(0): Display dimensions: (32, 24) cm (--) ATI(0): DPI set to (81, 81) (II) Loading sub module "xaa" (II) LoadModule: "xaa" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a (II) Module xaa: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a (II) Module ramdac: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Module fb: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation, version 0.1 (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] 0 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MS[B] [1] 0 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MS[B] [2] -1 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B) [3] -1 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B) [4] -1 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [5] -1 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [6] -1 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [7] -1 0xefffff80 - 0xefffffff (0x80) MX[B]E [8] -1 0xe8000000 - 0xebffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E [9] -1 0xefec0000 - 0xefedffff (0x20000) MX[B](B) [10] -1 0xefeff000 - 0xefefffff (0x1000) MX[B](B) [11] -1 0xe6000000 - 0xe6ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B) [12] 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprU) [13] 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprU) [14] 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprU) [15] 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IS[B] [16] -1 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [17] -1 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [18] -1 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E [19] -1 0x0000de00 - 0x0000deff (0x100) IX[B]E [20] -1 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E [21] -1 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B](B) [22] 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU) [23] 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU) (==) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (==) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xe6000000,0x200000) (==) ATI(0): Write-combining range (0xefeff000,0x1000) was already clear (II) ATI(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Lines Offscreen Pixmaps Setting up tile and stipple cache: 8 128x128 slots (==) ATI(0): Backing store disabled (==) ATI(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension LBX (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (**) Option "Protocol" "Microsoft" (**) Mouse1: Protocol: "Microsoft" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse1: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" (==) Mouse1: Buttons: 3 (**) Option "Emulate3Buttons" (**) Mouse1: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option "BaudRate" "1200" (**) Mouse1: BaudRate: 1200 (II) Keyboard "Keyboard1" handled by legacy driver (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE) (WW) fcntl(6, F_SETOWN): Inappropriate ioctl for device Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org. Mike Richards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 11:28:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from us.net (newmail1.one.net [216.23.22.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2870137B41A for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12716 invoked by uid 0); 28 Mar 2002 19:27:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO shell.one.net) (206.112.192.106) by newmail1.one.net with SMTP; 28 Mar 2002 19:27:40 -0000 Received: (from cokane@localhost) by shell.one.net (8.11.6/8.9.3) id g2SJRe004217; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:27:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:27:40 -0500 From: Coleman Kane To: Yeasah Pell Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users Message-ID: <20020328142740.A4076@shell.one.net> References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> <00d501c1d688$f35031e0$0200a8c0@gauss> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <00d501c1d688$f35031e0$0200a8c0@gauss>; from yeasah@apocalypse.org on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 01:47:02PM -0500 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.12 i686 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Another thing to look at is the /usr/sbin/sendmail -> mailwrapper link that is produced from installworld. In current it seems to have been linking that, even when NO_SENDMAIL=yes in make.conf. Qmail et al. overwrite this with their own workalike (since /usr/sbin/sendmail is a 'standard' these days) local mailer. I dunno if -stable has this problem too. -- coleman Thus spoke Yeasah Pell , and it was proclaimed: > This appears to address all of my concerns directly relating to sendmail in > one relatively simple and well thought out patch. I think this sort of > insulation is valuable to everybody, including those who currently *do* use > sendmail. > > Well done! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregory Neil Shapiro" > > > Given that non-sendmail users will be inconvenienced when upgrading due to > > the 8.12 changes (need to change sendmail_enable from "NO" to "NONE"), I > > thought it might be better to give them something back for their trouble. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 11:29:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D142D37B422; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2SJTXYm093448; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:29:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2SJSItx093421; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:28:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:28:18 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users Message-ID: <20020328112818.B92633@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net>; from gshapiro@freebsd.org on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 07:39:24AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 07:39:24AM -0800, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > As an alternative to sendmail_enable=NONE, why not solve the boot time > problem for non-sendmail users completely. The patch moves all of the > sendmail startup code from /etc/rc to /etc/rc.sendmail. Yes, please commit. Very nice. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 11:53: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smithers.nildram.co.uk (smithers.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA98337B405 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:53:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8000 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2002 19:52:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO VicNBob) (213.208.123.26) by smithers.nildram.co.uk with SMTP; 28 Mar 2002 19:52:56 -0000 From: Matthew Whelan To: Gregory Neil Shapiro , "Robert L Sowders" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:53:01 -0000 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <31R8LK0ID4WKF4QPFEQKDBVPLMG.3ca3749d@VicNBob> Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Opera 6.0 build 1010 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 28/03/2002 11:39:51, "Robert L Sowders" wrote: >These whiners, who constantly moan for code while never contributing any, >should contribute the code if they want it changed. Hmph. Inability to contribute - whether it be lack of necessary coding knowledge, time constraints or contractual restraints (my company demands that all software I write, including in my own free time, is copyright by them) - does not preclude people from being able to supply valid ideas on how to improve the system. Whines and moans like this will only put off potential users and contributors. Matthew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 11:56:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C0837B400 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:56:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g2SJuig34492; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:56:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:56:43 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Aditya Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial console vs. serial terminal In-Reply-To: <20020327212329.GA19556@mighty.grot.org> Message-ID: <20020328115551.R33831-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> X-All-Your-Base: are belong to us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Aditya wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:14:14PM -0800, Doug White wrote: > > > however, if I connect to them from a Cyclades T2000 terminal server using a > > > cat5 patch cable and a RJ45-DB9F modular adapter I can't type anything in but > > > I do see output (ie. from syslog). The most bizzare thing is if I reboot with: > > > > That sounds like the getty isn't coming up. It isn't complaining about > > cycling endlessly, is it? > > it isn't complaining and getty is definitely coming up as I can take a stock > db9-db9 null modem and interact fine... > > > Also make sure you're using the right pinout on your cable; the Cyclades > > pins aren't the same as Cisco's. We usually custom-build them. > > This is probably part of the "problem" -- using a patch cable I'm using the > following pinouts (essentially DCE), do you have a better set?: > > Pin # Signal Color > 2 TxD Black > - 3 RxD Yellow > 5 Gnd Red You should probably try a fully wired adapter. Unfortuantely I don't have the pinouts in front of me. > > It seems that your serial port(s) are locking up; the console output > > "wakes them up." Can you try connecting to the port with cu (in internal > > console, not serial) on the FreeBSD machine, ssh in to the TS2000 on the > > other, and talk between yourselves? > > yup, did that and when I type on either side I don't get a "local" echo but > see the output on the "remote" side... > > > AFAIK FreeBSD doesn't require carrier to be asserted for getty to wake up. > > If you hit a few times on the tty it should give you a login > > prompt. > > It's not taking input, but if I set syslogd to send *.err to * and then use > logger to syslog something, then it shows up... But you still can't get getty to wake up? It so happens we have a spare TS2000 in the office today, I'll try rigging it up. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 12: 2:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFD437B417; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0038.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.38] helo=mindspring.com) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16qg5p-0001dE-00; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:01:54 -0800 Message-ID: <3CA3769B.A6B22D2@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:01:31 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Whelan Cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , Robert L Sowders , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... References: <31R8LK0ID4WKF4QPFEQKDBVPLMG.3ca3749d@VicNBob> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Whelan wrote: > (my company demands > that all software I write, including in my own free time, is copyright by > them) You need to move to California, where this is against the law. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 12: 7:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postal3.es.net (postal3.es.net [198.128.3.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27F337B404; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal3.es.net (Postal Node 3) with ESMTP id GQF37091; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:07:30 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119CB5D04; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:07:28 -0800 (PST) To: Terry Lambert Cc: Matthew Whelan , Gregory Neil Shapiro , Robert L Sowders , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:01:31 PST." <3CA3769B.A6B22D2@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:07:28 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20020328200728.119CB5D04@ptavv.es.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:01:31 -0800 > From: Terry Lambert > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Matthew Whelan wrote: > > (my company demands > > that all software I write, including in my own free time, is copyright by > > them) > > You need to move to California, where this is against the law. Minor correction: You need to move to California, where such contractual clauses have been rule unenforceable by the courts (many times). IANAL! R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 12:35: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D3137B419; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:34:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from caddis.yogotech.com (caddis.yogotech.com [206.127.123.130]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28494; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:34:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by caddis.yogotech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2SKYZN19461; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:34:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15523.32347.105583.984050@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:34:35 -0700 To: Terry Lambert Cc: Matthew Whelan , Gregory Neil Shapiro , Robert L Sowders , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... In-Reply-To: <3CA3769B.A6B22D2@mindspring.com> References: <31R8LK0ID4WKF4QPFEQKDBVPLMG.3ca3749d@VicNBob> <3CA3769B.A6B22D2@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > (my company demands > > that all software I write, including in my own free time, is copyright by > > them) > > You need to move to California, where this is against the law. Every California company I've worked for has made me sign a statement with the above stipulation. In order to avoid this, I was required to specifically describe projects I worked on prior to my employment that were immune from these restrictions. It may be illegal, but I'm guessing that you and I don't have the legal resources to fight it in court should an occasion if the employer wanted to be enforce the statement, which was signed voluntarily. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 12:37:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C62637B41A; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0038.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.38] helo=mindspring.com) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16qgdX-0007be-00; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:36:43 -0800 Message-ID: <3CA37EC3.1C0EE0B5@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:36:19 -0800 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Matthew Whelan , Gregory Neil Shapiro , Robert L Sowders , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: California Labor Law (was Re: The sendmail discussion...) References: <20020328200728.119CB5D04@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kevin Oberman wrote: > From: Terry Lambert > > Matthew Whelan wrote: > > > (my company demands > > > that all software I write, including in my own free time, is copyright by > > > them) > > > > You need to move to California, where this is against the law. > > Minor correction: You need to move to California, where such > contractual clauses have been rule unenforceable by the courts (many > times). This is getting incredibly off topic for these lists. Followups are set to -chat. You are right, you are not a lawyer. ;^). See California Labor Code, Section 2870-2872, inclusive. http://are.berkeley.edu/heat/laborcode.html http://www.unixguru.com/california_law.html Such provisions are against the public policy of the state. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 12:44:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2D837B416; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:44:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0038.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.38] helo=mindspring.com) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16qgkb-00020d-00; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:44:02 -0800 Message-ID: <3CA3807A.2F4E40F0@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:43:38 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nate Williams Cc: Matthew Whelan , Gregory Neil Shapiro , Robert L Sowders , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... References: <31R8LK0ID4WKF4QPFEQKDBVPLMG.3ca3749d@VicNBob> <3CA3769B.A6B22D2@mindspring.com> <15523.32347.105583.984050@caddis.yogotech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nate Williams wrote: > > > (my company demands > > > that all software I write, including in my own free time, is copyright by > > > them) > > > > You need to move to California, where this is against the law. > > Every California company I've worked for has made me sign a statement > with the above stipulation. In order to avoid this, I was required to > specifically describe projects I worked on prior to my employment that > were immune from these restrictions. > > It may be illegal, but I'm guessing that you and I don't have the legal > resources to fight it in court should an occasion if the employer wanted > to be enforce the statement, which was signed voluntarily. ACLU will back you on matters of public policy, and so will the state's attorney's general office. FWIW: having a list of exclusions is also a good thing, since it makes you think about what you are working on, and gives you a nice intro to licensing things to your new employer, if it comes to it. My last exclusion list had nearly 300 items on it. 8-). Ask Julian and Archie about their IBM exclusion lists. Julian had an incredibly funny one (IMO), which (amazingly) IBM didn't balk at... -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 12:51:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.rdurkee.com (ns2.rdurkee.net [216.55.177.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D050237B400 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:51:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by mailhost.rdurkee.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA49837 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ralf) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:51:45 -0800 (PST) From: Ralph L Durkee Message-Id: <200203282051.MAA49837@mailhost.rdurkee.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 12:52:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [216.47.253.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A430437B400; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from admin0 (admin0.westbend.net [216.47.253.17]) by mail.westbend.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2SKq6RE015459; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:52:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <000a01c1d69a$1a9a1de0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Coleman Kane" Cc: , References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> <00d501c1d688$f35031e0$0200a8c0@gauss> <20020328142740.A4076@shell.one.net> Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:49:49 -0600 Organization: West Bend Interent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Coleman Kane" > Another thing to look at is the /usr/sbin/sendmail -> mailwrapper link that is > produced from installworld. In current it seems to have been linking that, even Stable creates the same links to mailwrapper. > when NO_SENDMAIL=yes in make.conf. Qmail et al. overwrite this with their own > workalike (since /usr/sbin/sendmail is a 'standard' these days) local mailer. > I dunno if -stable has this problem too. > You want to set NO_MAILWRAPPER in make.conf to prevent the linking to mailwrapper. But if you do this, you'll loose the configurablity that mailwrapper provides for alternate MTA's via /etc/mail/mailer.conf. Qmail install shouldn't need to install anything into /usr/[sbin,bin] directories with mailwrapper properly configured (see `man mailer.conf` & 'man mailwrapper'). Mailwrapper was designed so that you didn't need to re-create your links to your personal MTA (in /usr/[bin,sbin], when upgrading FreeBSD. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 13: 8:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39ABA37B404 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:08:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020328210814.MTSD1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:08:14 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2SL8EB98472; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:08:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:08:14 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: "Valentyn I. Martynenko" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with compiling 4.5-stable kernel Message-ID: <20020328130814.F97841@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <20020328150827.G912-100000@home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020328150827.G912-100000@home>; from val@slavutich.kiev.ua on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 03:20:16PM +0200 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 03:20:16PM +0200, Valentyn I. Martynenko wrote: > Hello ALL! > Pleace, help me to solve problem. After system update with same config, > kernel was not linking: > > linking kernel > if.o: In function `if_setlladdr': > if.o(.text+0x1b68): undefined reference to `arp_ifinit' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/home Do you have 'pseudo-device ether' in the config? It recently became manditory when you have 'options INET'. (This probably will be fixed, but it hasn't yet.) -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 13:23:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr (postfix2-1.free.fr [213.228.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B690337B41A for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaio (rennes-1-a7-97-144.dial.proxad.net [62.147.97.144]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 026A820F; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 22:22:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <066801c1d69e$b58bcf20$1000a8c0@vaio> From: "Michel Gravey" To: "Holger Kipp" , "David La Croix" , "Harald Schmalzbauer" Cc: References: <060a01c1d683$cbd83a90$1000a8c0@vaio> <3CA35EBA.559AD6A5@alogis.com> <061201c1d688$4d291980$1000a8c0@vaio> <3CA36980.76286508@alogis.com> Subject: Re: Onstream SC30 support Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 22:22:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It's seems that onstream sc30 tape drive is not a good choice for FreeBSD. So, onstream adr30 should work well. I'm not sure I will use this one. dds or dat is maybe a better solution. Does anyone know good tape drive (native capacity 15-25 gig) for FreeBSD. I couldn't find anything related to ?ETRIXC? on the web. So if anyone have a suggestion, I'm interested. Michel >Hello, AFAIK SC30 is quiet old and the driver has never been finished. I >have been using the ADR50 (there is also an ADR30) for two years. It's a >standard SCSI-Tape, so ist works well with FreeBSD. But I had some >mechanical problems with OnStream (I had four drives). >Have a look at the ???ETRIXC??? It's a frech vendor, they supported >FreeBSD some time ago and their drives have a very good reputation, >especially recovering data on not-so-well stored media. >-Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "David La Croix" To: "'Michel Gravey'" Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:39 PM Subject: RE: Onstream SC30 support > We use these at my company (not on FreeBSD though) ... and I personally am > not satisfied with their performance / support. > > The tape loading mechanism seems to jam often -- The cost per tape is not > very good either. IIRC -- they're only 15G drives -- they rarely meet the > full 30Gig advertised compression rate. The tape jamming problem became a > serious issue -- It was difficult for a not-admin (receptionist) responsible > for rotating tapes to know if the tapes were loaded correctly -- the backups > frequently failed. > > (the company I work for uses the SC30s for NT/Exchange backups on Backup > Exec -- I prefer DDS[234] drives) > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger Kipp" To: "Michel Gravey" Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Onstream SC30 support > Michel Gravey wrote: > > > > I have some problems using the onstream di 30 (atapi) with freebsd that's > > why I'm asking if the scsi version will work correctly. The di 30 is an > > atapi tape drive but I couldn't get it working with freebsd. > > Any help appreciated, > > > > The Onstream SC30 is a SCSI tapedrive, so it should work just fine > > > with FreeBSD. > > I feel like an idiot - should have done propper searching... (at least, > google is my friend ;-) Typing in onstream sc30 freebsd gives: > > - Looks like the sc30 is NOT a standard SCSI-2 device. > - Hmm, and Darryl Okahata wrote (28.08.1999) that is is not supported. > (I couldn't find any later messages saying 'works now'...) > So my best suggestion is to go for a standard tape drive, or ask > onstream directly (some of their newer products look like they do > support standard SCSI). > > Sorry for the misinformation. Mea maxima culpa. > > Regards, > Holger > > -- > Holger Kipp, Dipl.-Math., Systemadministrator | alogis AG > Fon: +49 (0)30 / 43 65 8 - 114 | Berliner Strasse 26 > Fax: +49 (0)30 / 43 65 8 - 214 | D-13507 Berlin Tegel > email: holger.kipp@alogis.com | http://www.alogis.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 13:30:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id 3F4FE37B41E; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:30:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:30:20 -0800 From: David O'Brien To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE Message-ID: <20020328133020.B6416@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> <20020327115442.C27253@shell.one.net> <000c01c1d5bb$38e336e0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> <20020327200304.C43825@mail.webmonster.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020327200304.C43825@mail.webmonster.de>; from karsten@rohrbach.de on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:03:04PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:03:04PM +0100, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > > sendmail_enable=YES > > sendmail_flags="-bd -q30m" # Change to the old default MTA flags or flags > > for specific MTA > > sendmail_outbound_enable=NO > > sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO > > sendmail_submit_enable=NO > > this still leaves the binaries in the filesystem. So what?? When was the last time you used jot(1)? Do you also want it removed from your installed system? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 13:36: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firehouse.net (dsl-64-130-18-61.telocity.com [64.130.18.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DAFF37B404 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:35:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 79585 invoked by uid 85); 28 Mar 2002 21:35:52 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:35:51 -0500 From: Alan Clegg To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE Message-ID: <20020328163551.B77823@shell.wetworks.org> References: <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> <20020327115442.C27253@shell.one.net> <000c01c1d5bb$38e336e0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> <20020327200304.C43825@mail.webmonster.de> <20020328133020.B6416@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020328133020.B6416@hub.freebsd.org>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 01:30:20PM -0800 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unless the network is lying to me again, David O'Brien said:=20 > So what?? sendmail binaries have a tendancy to be security problems. (and no, I'm not advocating any change at this time, just playing devil's advocate) > When was the last time you used jot(1)? Do you also want it removed from > your installed system? Woah! Cool command... can't really think of how I'd use it, but... AlanC --CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8o4y3yJP8xSfQVdsRAmCrAKCbwBrnP3NDgKDg0c7rhmjyxQwsEwCdFpqF yeuAVXkL0flgnFsdK6UBvRk= =xB5v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CUfgB8w4ZwR/yMy5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 13:38:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021BE37B41D for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:38:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2SLcQg28273; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 22:38:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 22:38:26 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Alan Clegg Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE Message-ID: <20020328223826.F28059@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> <20020327115442.C27253@shell.one.net> <000c01c1d5bb$38e336e0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> <20020327200304.C43825@mail.webmonster.de> <20020328133020.B6416@hub.freebsd.org> <20020328163551.B77823@shell.wetworks.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020328163551.B77823@shell.wetworks.org>; from alan@clegg.com on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 04:35:51PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 04:35:51PM -0500, Alan Clegg wrote: > Unless the network is lying to me again, David O'Brien said: > > > So what?? > > sendmail binaries have a tendancy to be security problems. (and no, I'm > not advocating any change at this time, just playing devil's advocate) the root account has a tendency to be a security problem. Lets remove it. :) Basically: binaries sitting on a disk are harmless (but take space) as long as they don't get run. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands We are FreeBSD. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be committed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 13:45:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trigger.net (ns.trigger.net [204.50.18.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473FF37B405 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:45:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mike (wettoast.org [204.50.18.204]) by mail.trigger.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BEF463092B; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:44:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Jakubik" To: "Wilko Bulte" , "Alan Clegg" Cc: Subject: RE: sendmail_enable NONE Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:45:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020328223826.F28059@freebie.xs4all.nl> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Wilko Bulte Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:38 PM To: Alan Clegg Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE > On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 04:35:51PM -0500, Alan Clegg wrote: > > Unless the network is lying to me again, David O'Brien said: > > > > > So what?? > > > > sendmail binaries have a tendancy to be security problems. > (and no, I'm > > not advocating any change at this time, just playing devil's advocate) > > the root account has a tendency to be a security problem. Lets remove it. > > :) Yes, but unfortunately we need the root account. > Basically: binaries sitting on a disk are harmless (but take space) as > long as they don't get run. True, however what does not exist can not be exploited. I think that removing software that is not needed is a great process towards a better system, security and functionality wise. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 13:53:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clink.schulte.org (clink.schulte.org [209.134.156.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995BA37B41A for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:53:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from schulte-laptop.nospam.schulte.org (nb-65.netbriefings.com [209.134.134.65]) by clink.schulte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A55F24422; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:53:19 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020328154728.04ac2668@pop3s.schulte.org> X-Sender: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:51:50 -0600 To: Wilko Bulte , Alan Clegg From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020328223826.F28059@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020328163551.B77823@shell.wetworks.org> <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> <20020327115442.C27253@shell.one.net> <000c01c1d5bb$38e336e0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> <20020327200304.C43825@mail.webmonster.de> <20020328133020.B6416@hub.freebsd.org> <20020328163551.B77823@shell.wetworks.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:38 PM 3/28/2002 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: >Basically: binaries sitting on a disk are harmless (but take space) as >long as they don't get run. Some local root exploits can be prevented if unused setuid binaries have the bit removed. Thus if sendmail is not used (but you want to keep the binary around just in case) just chmod -s. If I install postfix, I might not be keen on sendmail advisories, thinking I'm not affected because the daemon is not active. Whoops, it was a local problem becuase I left the binary setuid root. >-- >| / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org >|/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands > We are FreeBSD. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be committed. -- Christopher Schulte http://www.schulte.org/ Do not un-munge my @nospam.schulte.org email address. This address is valid. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 14: 0:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348C337B404 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2SM0AN28553; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 23:00:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 23:00:10 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Christopher Schulte Cc: Alan Clegg , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE Message-ID: <20020328230010.B28507@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020328163551.B77823@shell.wetworks.org> <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> <20020327115442.C27253@shell.one.net> <000c01c1d5bb$38e336e0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> <20020327200304.C43825@mail.webmonster.de> <20020328133020.B6416@hub.freebsd.org> <20020328163551.B77823@shell.wetworks.org> <20020328223826.F28059@freebie.xs4all.nl> <5.1.0.14.0.20020328154728.04ac2668@pop3s.schulte.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020328154728.04ac2668@pop3s.schulte.org>; from schulte+freebsd@nospam.schulte.org on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 03:51:50PM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 03:51:50PM -0600, Christopher Schulte wrote: > At 10:38 PM 3/28/2002 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > >Basically: binaries sitting on a disk are harmless (but take space) as > >long as they don't get run. > > Some local root exploits can be prevented if unused setuid binaries have > the bit removed. Thus if sendmail is not used (but you want to keep the > binary around just in case) just chmod -s. OK, but that applies to more than just sendmail. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands We are FreeBSD. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be committed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 14: 3:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301E437B419 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g2SM0BE01376; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:00:11 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:00:11 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Michel Gravey Cc: Holger Kipp , David La Croix , Harald Schmalzbauer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Onstream SC30 support Message-ID: <20020328140011.A15442@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <060a01c1d683$cbd83a90$1000a8c0@vaio> <3CA35EBA.559AD6A5@alogis.com> <061201c1d688$4d291980$1000a8c0@vaio> <3CA36980.76286508@alogis.com> <066801c1d69e$b58bcf20$1000a8c0@vaio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <066801c1d69e$b58bcf20$1000a8c0@vaio>; from admin@optogone.com on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 10:22:46PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 10:22:46PM +0100, Michel Gravey wrote: > It's seems that onstream sc30 tape drive is not a good choice for FreeBSD. > So, onstream adr30 should work well. I'm not sure I will use this one. dds > or dat > is maybe a better solution. > Does anyone know good tape drive (native capacity 15-25 gig) for FreeBSD. > I couldn't find anything related to ?ETRIXC? on the web. > So if anyone have a suggestion, I'm interested. In that range, I think you're options are probably DDS-4 or VXA. I'd probably buy VXA (I'm currently using DDS-3). I suspect that's what the previous respondent was refering to as they used to be sold by a company named Ecrix. They appear to have been bought out by ExaByte. The VXA stuff is available at www.vxatape.com. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8o5JqXY6L6fI4GtQRAk/vAJ4x0q5Ljpr4xLrErTSeqDJ7hidlrgCdFaRQ U7xLt5wFSkOnXKEdV9C5l+U= =2qpq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 14:19:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E91137B416 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:19:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g2SMIk805596; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:18:46 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:18:46 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Christopher Schulte Cc: Wilko Bulte , Alan Clegg , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE Message-ID: <20020328141846.B15442@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20020328163551.B77823@shell.wetworks.org> <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> <20020327115442.C27253@shell.one.net> <000c01c1d5bb$38e336e0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> <20020327200304.C43825@mail.webmonster.de> <20020328133020.B6416@hub.freebsd.org> <20020328163551.B77823@shell.wetworks.org> <20020328223826.F28059@freebie.xs4all.nl> <5.1.0.14.0.20020328154728.04ac2668@pop3s.schulte.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020328154728.04ac2668@pop3s.schulte.org>; from schulte+freebsd@nospam.schulte.org on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 03:51:50PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 03:51:50PM -0600, Christopher Schulte wrote: > At 10:38 PM 3/28/2002 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > >Basically: binaries sitting on a disk are harmless (but take space) as > >long as they don't get run. >=20 > Some local root exploits can be prevented if unused setuid binaries have= =20 > the bit removed. Thus if sendmail is not used (but you want to keep the= =20 > binary around just in case) just chmod -s. Given that the cause of the pain revolving around the 8.12 MFC was removing the setuid bit to sendmail, these comments are just a bit inane. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8o5bFXY6L6fI4GtQRAiAXAJwPoPFYLApoOIMLpCdgW3elYhT62gCeLRb/ KxtD6Z98VkKiab6fESUiAFo= =4pq7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 14:46: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A4D37B417; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:45:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a011.otenet.gr [212.205.215.11]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2SMjig1027507; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 00:45:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2SMjiom003562; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 00:45:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2SMjiLF003558; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 00:45:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 00:45:43 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Nate Williams Cc: Terry Lambert , Matthew Whelan , Gregory Neil Shapiro , Robert L Sowders , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... Message-ID: <20020328224542.GA3044@hades.hell.gr> References: <31R8LK0ID4WKF4QPFEQKDBVPLMG.3ca3749d@VicNBob> <3CA3769B.A6B22D2@mindspring.com> <15523.32347.105583.984050@caddis.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15523.32347.105583.984050@caddis.yogotech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-03-28 13:34, Nate Williams wrote: > > > (my company demands > > > that all software I write, including in my own free time, is copyright by > > > them) > > > > You need to move to California, where this is against the law. > > Every California company I've worked for has made me ... > ...which was signed voluntarily. They either make you, or it's voluntary. It can't be both :-) Giorgos. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 14:58:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBEF637B405 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.12.2/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2SMwD0W009647 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:58:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:58:13 -0500 (EST) From: jack To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE In-Reply-To: <20020328133020.B6416@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20020328175701.G9455-100000@germanium.xtalwind.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today David O'Brien wrote: > So what?? > When was the last time you used jot(1)? This morning. :) > Do you also want it removed from your installed system? No. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer is to computing what a McDonalds Certified Food Specialist is to fine cuisine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 15:35: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rockstar.stealthgeeks.net (h-66-134-120-173.LSANCA54.covad.net [66.134.120.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AECE237B41A for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 87420 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Mar 2002 23:34:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Mar 2002 23:34:56 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:34:56 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick To: Nate Williams Cc: Terry Lambert , Matthew Whelan , Gregory Neil Shapiro , Robert L Sowders , , , Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... In-Reply-To: <15523.32347.105583.984050@caddis.yogotech.com> Message-ID: <20020328152840.Q87366-100000@rockstar.stealthgeeks.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Nate Williams wrote: > > > (my company demands > > > that all software I write, including in my own free time, is copyright by > > > them) > > > > You need to move to California, where this is against the law. > > Every California company I've worked for has made me sign a statement > with the above stipulation. In order to avoid this, I was required to > specifically describe projects I worked on prior to my employment that > were immune from these restrictions. Disclaimer: IANAL. California code 2870 states that any invenvtion created without using the employer's equipment, supplies, facilities, or trade secret information and unless the invention was conceived for the existing business or research and development, or it resulted from work that the employee did for the employer that you own it, period. That right cannot be signed away.(illegal provisions of contracts are unenforceable.) Consult your attorney, yadda yadda. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell Asking the wrong questions is the leading cause of wrong answers \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 15:47:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (pcp01578012pcs.martnz01.ga.comcast.net [68.47.4.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E032237B41C; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from vortex.wa4phy.net (localhost.wa4phy.net [127.0.0.1]) by vortex.wa4phy.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2SNkPO99651; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:46:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sam@wa4phy.net) Message-ID: <3CA3AB51.FCD22E3A@vortex.wa4phy.net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:46:25 -0500 From: Sam Organization: You Gotta Be Kiddin! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Cc: Nate Williams , Terry Lambert , Matthew Whelan , Gregory Neil Shapiro , Robert L Sowders , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... References: <20020328152840.Q87366-100000@rockstar.stealthgeeks.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, I hate to be snotty, but gosh, I don't think this thread really belongs in a discussion about -stable. Bad enough that the sendmail created so many "me too's" but wouldn't -chat be a better place for california laws? Sam -- Just because you're moving fast | BURMA SHAVE doesn't mean that you're really | going anwhere at all! | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 16: 3:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D5D537B404 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 70698 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Mar 2002 00:03:49 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 01:03:49 +0100 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Cc: Coleman Kane , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users Message-ID: <20020329010349.A70251@mail.webmonster.de> Mail-Followup-To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , "Scot W. Hetzel" , Coleman Kane , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> <00d501c1d688$f35031e0$0200a8c0@gauss> <20020328142740.A4076@shell.one.net> <000a01c1d69a$1a9a1de0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000a01c1d69a$1a9a1de0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net>; from hetzels@westbend.net on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 02:49:49PM -0600 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer X-Work-URL: http://www.ngenn.net/ X-Work-Address: nGENn GmbH, Schloss Kransberg, D-61250 Usingen-Kransberg, Germany X-Work-Phone: +49-6081-682-304 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scot W. Hetzel(hetzels@westbend.net)@2002.03.28 14:49:49 +0000: > Qmail install shouldn't need to install anything into /usr/[sbin,bin] > directories with mailwrapper properly configured (see `man mailer.conf` & > 'man mailwrapper'). a quick glance into /usr/ports/mail/qmail/pkg-plist shows, that no sendmail or mailwrapper binaries are harmed during installation process. regards, /k --=20 > cd /pub; more beer KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 My mail is GnuPG signed -- Unsigned ones are bogus -- http://www.gnupg.org/ Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8o69lM0BPTilkv0YRAn2HAJ0Q+vxj0YUkAR/6LGBD1RF0HBm72wCfR0bD dpSSBSFiz5aAzlJPFTWqKBI= =zGP2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 17:50: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.143.238.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB71337B41B for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:49:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30426 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Mar 2002 11:49:57 +1000 X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.25 04-Mar-2002 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-Uptime: 78 days, 18:07 X-Location: Brisbane, Australia; 27.49841S 152.98439E X-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-auug048.gif X-GPG-Fingerprint: EBB2 2A92 A79D 1533 AC00 3C46 5D83 B6FB 4B04 B7D6 X-PGP-Public-Keys: http://www.gbch.net/keys.html Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:49:57 +1000 From: Greg Black To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE References: <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> <20020327115442.C27253@shell.one.net> <000c01c1d5bb$38e336e0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> <20020327200304.C43825@mail.webmonster.de> <20020328133020.B6416@hub.freebsd.org> In-reply-to: <20020328133020.B6416@hub.freebsd.org> of Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:30:20 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: | When was the last time you used jot(1)? Do you also want it removed from | your installed system? Speaking for myself only, I use it nearly every day and I certainly don't want to see suggestions of removing it. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 18:28: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.113.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3524337B41B; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private.lan [192.168.0.2]) by pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2T2RqP96356; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 02:27:52 GMT (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3CA3D127.E6C68295@ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 02:27:51 +0000 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > > Given that non-sendmail users will be inconvenienced when upgrading due to > the 8.12 changes (need to change sendmail_enable from "NO" to "NONE"), I > thought it might be better to give them something back for their trouble. > > As an alternative to sendmail_enable=NONE, why not solve the boot time > problem for non-sendmail users completely. The patch moves all of the > sendmail startup code from /etc/rc to /etc/rc.sendmail. The source for > that script will be kept in src/etc/sendmail/rc.sendmail so make.conf's > NO_SENDMAIL will prevent it from being installed. A new rc.conf variable, > mta_start_script specifies the script to run to start the user's > preferred MTA. For backward compatibility, it will default to > /etc/rc.sendmail. The specified script is called out of /etc/rc after > checking to make sure it exists. > > I've also taken the opportunity to use /etc/rc.sendmail in > /etc/mail/Makefile to reduce code duplication. A new rc.sendmail.8 man > page has also been added which now houses the sendmail_* variable > descriptions formerly in rc.conf.5. > > In a somewhat unrelated note, I also plan on arranging to move the > sendmail-specific stuff out of src/etc/mail/ and into src/etc/sendmail so > the installation of things like sample sendmail maps, etc. don't clutter a > NO_SENDMAIL installation. I'll need to arrange this event with the CVS > repomeisters. Hopefully, this change (along with the patch) will make > things more palatable for non-sendmail users. > > The patch is against -CURRENT but should give -STABLE users a good idea of my > intentions. It is available at: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~gshapiro/mta-start > > Opinions? > Brilliant! I suppose you just threw this together :) One small quibble. If I want to set mta_start_script="" and run rc.sendmail(.sh) from /usr/local/etc/rc.d shouldn't "stop" kill both queues? You'd need to add a stop-mtaq obviously. A global restart might be nice too. [If this is mindless drivel, just ignore:- need sleep.] -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 19:15:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from posgate.acis.com.au (posgate.acis.com.au [203.14.230.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA82D37B417; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:15:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from bullseye.apana.org.au (dialup-2.aaa.net.au [203.14.230.67]) by posgate.acis.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2T3FYY32234; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:15:34 +1100 Received: from bullseye.apana.org.au (tenring.andymac.org [203.9.107.238]) by bullseye.apana.org.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2T1VnV15728; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:31:49 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:24:14 +1000 (est) From: Andrew MacIntyre To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... In-Reply-To: <15522.46936.107162.91222@horsey.gshapiro.net> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: {...} > I plan on continuing to improve the FreeBSD infrastructure for sendmail > and will continue trying to be sensitive to the needs of non-sendmail > users. I welcome feedback and I try to be quite reasonable. Thank you for all your work, including this comprehensive article. A point I think many users of other MTAs are oblivious to is that the Internet of today is a far less diverse environment than the environment sendmail was born into. Sendmail as a result is an extraordinarily flexible tool. I have needed that flexibility, and believe that FreeBSD as an OS for the full spectrum of use is the better for retaining such flexibility. It is short sighted to lumber the current releases of sendmail with the millstone of unmaintained vendor versions and poor system administration. I find it amazing, and reassuring, that sendmail has survived the challenges of the changing internet and that it continues to successfully evolve despite the vociferous support for less mature, less flexible and less widely used competion. -- Andrew I MacIntyre "These thoughts are mine alone..." E-mail: andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au | Snail: PO Box 370 andymac@pcug.org.au | Belconnen ACT 2616 Web: http://www.andymac.org/ | Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 20:43:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nortenet.pt (mar.nortenet.pt [212.13.32.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D406337B416 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 20:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from nortenet.pt (v1-pppS23.nortenet.pt [212.13.32.23]) by mail.nortenet.pt (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g2T3eRh22488 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 04:40:27 +0100 Message-ID: <3CA3F28B.C28FA8A2@nortenet.pt> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 04:50:19 +0000 From: Guilherme Oliveira Organization: Host-Valley.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.19 i586) X-Accept-Language: pt, pt-BR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Bug ? Building kernel/world error on Cyrix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I'm having serious problems building kernel or world in my Cyrix 200MHZ. Booting '4.5-RELEASE #0' it detects my processor as being Cyrix 6x86MX (167.05-MHz 686-class CPU), that I think it's wrong ('6x86' ?!?!) and maybe this is the origin for all my problems. I've cvsup'd and builded freebsd all the time without problem until +- 4.5 RELEASE. I've tried building GENERIC with the same result. I have tried building world+kernel with 'CPUTYPE=i686' in make.conf and 'cpu I686_CPU' (as allways did) in kernel but it gives me error in: ===> portal @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include perl @/kern/vnode_if.pl -h @/kern/vnode_if.src Internal error at @/kern/vnode_if.pl line 248, chunk 472. *** Error code 255 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/portal. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SARPA. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 I have tried building world+kernel with 'CPUTYPE=i586' in make.conf and 'cpu I586_CPU' in kernel but it gives me error in: /obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/bin/sh/error.c cc -O -pipe -march=pentium -DSHELL -I. -I/usr/src/bin/sh -Wall -Wformat -I/usr /obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/bin/sh/eval.c {standard input}: cc: Assembler messages: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11{standard input}:0: Warning: *** Error code 1 end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted Stop in /usr/src/bin/sh. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. bash-2.05# {standard input}:1107: Error: unbalanced parenthesis in operand 2. My partially dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 11 05:52:10 WET 2002 root@sarpa.garpa:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SARPA Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Cyrix 6x86MX (167.05-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "CyrixInstead" Id = 0x600 Stepping = 0 DIR=0x0452 Features=0x80a135 real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 127442944 (124456K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0327000. md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 5 entries at 0xc00fdb80 apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 5.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xe000-0xe00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xe400-0xe41f irq 10 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip1: at device 7.3 on pci0 My kernel configuration: # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.35 2001/09/27 17:43:06 alfred Exp $ machine i386 cpu I586_CPU # aka Pentium Pro(tm) ident SARPA maxusers 0 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_DIRHASH options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options NTFS #NT File System options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev # PicoBSD #options MFS #Memory Filesystem #pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver #options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device device isa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 options ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP # specify the built-in keymap makeoptions ATKBD_DFLT_KEYMAP="pt.iso.acc" # If you have a two button mouse, you may want to add the following option # to use the right button of the mouse to paste text. #options SC_TWOBUTTON_MOUSE device vga0 at isa? options SC_DFLT_FONT # compile font in makeoptions SC_DFLT_FONT=iso # The following options will let you change the default colors of syscons. options SC_NORM_ATTR="(FG_GREEN|BG_BLACK)" options SC_NORM_REV_ATTR="(FG_YELLOW|BG_GREEN)" options SC_KERNEL_CONS_ATTR="(FG_RED|BG_BLACK)" options SC_KERNEL_CONS_REV_ATTR="(FG_BLACK|BG_RED)" # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #device card #device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 #device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable #options PCIC_RESUME_RESET # reset after resume # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 options CONSPEED=115200 # speed for serial console # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer #device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" options PPP_BSDCOMP #PPP BSD-compress support options PPP_DEFLATE #PPP zlib/deflate/gzip support options RANDOM_IP_ID options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN options ICMP_BANDLIM # Firewall #options IPFIREWALL #firewall #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print dropped packets #options IPDIVERT #divert sockets #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #limit verbosity # Sound card device pcm # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic #device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" #device ukbd # Keyboard #device ulpt # Printer #device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse #device uscanner # Scanners #device urio # Diamond Rio MP3 Player # USB Ethernet, requires mii #device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet #device cue # CATC USB ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet -- mailto:guilherme@nortenet.pt || http://guilherme.host-valley.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 21:46:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89BA37B419; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from peter3.wemm.org ([12.232.27.13]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020329054612.SSO1147.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@peter3.wemm.org>; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 05:46:12 +0000 Received: from overcee.wemm.org (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g2T5k8x09848; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:46:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4A2390B; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:46:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users In-Reply-To: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:46:03 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020329054603.0D4A2390B@overcee.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > http://people.freebsd.org/~gshapiro/mta-start > > Opinions? Enthusiastic thumbs-up from me! :-) Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 28 22:13:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.dvfootage.com (dvfootage.com [216.228.5.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D3C37B419 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 22:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from atrustrivalie.org (pm1-28.corp.redshift.com [216.228.4.28]) by www.dvfootage.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C6FA8A2; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 22:13:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3CA40604.9050205@atrustrivalie.org> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 22:13:24 -0800 From: Yann Ramin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Guilherme Oliveira Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug ? Building kernel/world error on Cyrix References: <3CA3F28B.C28FA8A2@nortenet.pt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thats the official name of the Cyrix, although they were far from being actual 686 CPUs. The clock speed reported is also correct. Cyrix rated them with a PR rating which, unlike the Athlon XP ratings, was overly optimistic. Your "200MHz" is a 200PR CPU, which did run at 166MHz, but had the performance of maybe a 133 Pentium (I had a 166PR, which ran at 133, until it self destructed). I would try changing CPUTYPE to i586 or i486. All of this doesn't explain the perl related error you're seeing though :) Try recvsuping. Yann Guilherme Oliveira wrote: >Hi ! > >I'm having serious problems building kernel or world in my Cyrix 200MHZ. > >Booting '4.5-RELEASE #0' it detects my processor as being Cyrix 6x86MX >(167.05-MHz 686-class CPU), that I think it's wrong ('6x86' ?!?!) and >maybe this is the origin for all my problems. > >I've cvsup'd and builded freebsd all the time without problem until +- >4.5 RELEASE. >I've tried building GENERIC with the same result. > >I have tried building world+kernel with 'CPUTYPE=i686' in make.conf and >'cpu I686_CPU' (as allways did) in kernel but it gives me error in: > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 3: 5:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [194.228.200.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7235537B400 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 03:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g2TB5Hm21263 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:05:18 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.9a) with ESMTP id 2002032912045971:8406 ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:04:59 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2TBJqw39681 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:19:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:19:51 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-stable Subject: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld broken Message-ID: <20020329111951.GI389@roman.mobil.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 03/29/2002 12:04:59 PM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 03/29/2002 12:05:06 PM, Serialize complete at 03/29/2002 12:05:06 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cc -O2 -pipe -march=k6 -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../libbfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/include -DDEFAULT_EMULATION=\"elf_i386\" -DTARGET=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DSCRIPTDIR=\"/usr/libdata\" -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd -DVERSION=\""2.11.2 20010719 [FreeBSD]"\" -DBFD_VERSION=\""2.11.2 20010719 [FreeBSD]"\" -static -o ld eelf_i386.o ldcref.o ldctor.o ldemul.o ldexp.o ldfile.o ldgram.o ldlang.o ldlex.o ldmain.o ldmisc.o ldver.o ldwrite.o lexsup.o mri.o ../libbfd/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a ldfile.o: In function `ldfile_open_command_file': ldfile.o(.text+0x50d): undefined reference to `had_script' ldlang.o: In function `load_symbols': ldlang.o(.text+0x130d): undefined reference to `yyparse' ldlex.o: In function `yylex': ldlex.o(.text+0x296): undefined reference to `yylval' ldlex.o(.text+0x2cb): undefined reference to `yylval' ldlex.o(.text+0x2e0): undefined reference to `yylval' ldlex.o(.text+0x2fd): undefined reference to `yylval' ldlex.o(.text+0x306): undefined reference to `yylval' ldlex.o(.text+0x31a): more undefined references to `yylval' follow ldmain.o: In function `main': ldmain.o(.text+0x299): undefined reference to `force_make_executable' ldmain.o(.text+0x3a0): undefined reference to `had_script' ldmain.o(.text+0x42c): undefined reference to `yyparse' ldmain.o(.text+0x59c): undefined reference to `force_make_executable' lexsup.o: In function `parse_args': lexsup.o(.text+0x5d4): undefined reference to `yyparse' lexsup.o(.text+0x876): undefined reference to `force_make_executable' lexsup.o(.text+0xe06): undefined reference to `had_script' lexsup.o(.text+0xe1a): undefined reference to `had_script' lexsup.o(.text+0xe29): undefined reference to `yyparse' *** Error code 1 -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 12:18PM up 4 days, 20:04, 23 users, load averages: 0.37, 0.20, 0.12 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 3:23:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.win.infodom.ru (falcon.infodom.ru [212.45.11.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC2337B416 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 03:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by falcon.win.infodom.ru with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:22:32 +0300 Message-ID: <3649F9FBD2621F4498A022E513C5CA2101528B@falcon.win.infodom.ru> From: =?koi8-r?Q?=E2=C5=D2=A3=DA=CB=CF_=E9=D7=C1=CE?= To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: execl() after fork() in signal handler - strange things happen :) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:22:31 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, people. The problem is - when doing execl() after fork() inside a signal handler, the signal is not delivered to executed child anymore. Is this correct? (I understand, that doing such things is a bad idea, but... :) This is a test program, built using "gcc -o test test.c". Tested under 4.2-RELEASE and 4.3 RELEASE. The program, as you can see, does the following: 1. Sets handlers for SIGTERM and SIGHUP. 2. Enters loop, writes "sleeping" message every 2 seconds. 3. SIGTERM - leaves loop and terminates. 4. SIGHUP - forks, executes itself, and terminates parent in the same manner, as with SIGTERM. #include #include #include #include static char * self; static int running; static void sig_handler(int); int main(int argc, char** argv) { int i; self = argv[0]; openlog("signaltest", LOG_PID | LOG_NDELAY, LOG_LOCAL0); syslog(LOG_NOTICE, "setting signal handlers"); signal(SIGHUP, sig_handler); signal(SIGTERM, sig_handler); syslog(LOG_NOTICE, "entering waiting loop"); running = 1; i = 0; while(running) { sleep(2); syslog(LOG_NOTICE, "sleeping: %d", i++); } syslog(LOG_NOTICE, "terminated"); return 0; } static void sig_handler(int sig) { int rc; syslog(LOG_NOTICE, "got a signal: %d", sig); switch(sig) { case SIGHUP: rc = fork(); if (-1 == rc) { syslog(LOG_ERR, "fork() failed: %m"); break; } if (0 == rc) { rc = execl(self, NULL); syslog(LOG_ERR, "execl() failed: %m"); } case SIGTERM: running = 0; break; } } This is a cut of execution log. % gcc -o test test.c % ./test & Mar 29 13:39:28 jb-note signaltest[4483]: setting signal handlers Mar 29 13:39:28 jb-note signaltest[4483]: entering waiting loop Mar 29 13:39:30 jb-note signaltest[4483]: sleeping: 0 Mar 29 13:39:32 jb-note signaltest[4483]: sleeping: 1 Mar 29 13:39:34 jb-note signaltest[4483]: sleeping: 2 Mar 29 13:39:36 jb-note signaltest[4483]: sleeping: 3 Mar 29 13:39:38 jb-note signaltest[4483]: sleeping: 4 % kill -HUP 4483 # Successfully caught signal, forked and restarted itself Mar 29 13:39:40 jb-note signaltest[4483]: got a signal: 1 Mar 29 13:39:40 jb-note signaltest[4483]: sleeping: 5 Mar 29 13:39:40 jb-note signaltest[4483]: terminated Mar 29 13:39:40 jb-note signaltest[4484]: setting signal handlers Mar 29 13:39:40 jb-note signaltest[4484]: entering waiting loop Mar 29 13:39:42 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 0 Mar 29 13:39:44 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 1 Mar 29 13:39:46 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 2 % kill -HUP 4484 # No action, does not see signal Mar 29 13:39:48 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 3 Mar 29 13:39:50 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 4 Mar 29 13:39:52 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 5 % kill -HUP 4484 # No action, does not see signal Mar 29 13:39:54 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 6 Mar 29 13:39:56 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 7 Mar 29 13:39:58 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 8 % kill -HUP 4484 # No action, does not see signal Mar 29 13:40:00 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 9 Mar 29 13:40:02 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 10 % kill -HUP 4484 # No action, does not see signal Mar 29 13:40:04 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 11 Mar 29 13:40:06 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 12 % kill -TERM 4484 # Successfully caught TERM and terminated Mar 29 13:40:07 jb-note signaltest[4484]: got a signal: 15 Mar 29 13:40:07 jb-note signaltest[4484]: sleeping: 13 Mar 29 13:40:07 jb-note signaltest[4484]: terminated Good luck. Ivan Beriozko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 3:48: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294FA37B419; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 03:47:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020329114757.HJVM1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:47:57 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2TBluu85916; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 03:47:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 03:47:56 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Robert Saft Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: i386/36475: make world in /usr/src for 4.5-stable fails Message-ID: <20020329034756.S97841@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <200203291103.g2TB3tQ80578@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200203291103.g2TB3tQ80578@freefall.freebsd.org>; from zardoz@vampyre.com on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 03:03:55AM -0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 03:03:55AM -0800, Robert Saft wrote: [snip] > Current build failure/error message is: > > cc -O -pipe -D_open=open -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_fbsd/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_fbsd/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_fbsd/../../../../contrib/gcc.295 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_fbsd/../../../../contrib/gcc.295/config -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_fbsd/../../../../lib/libc/stdio/mktemp.c -o mktemp.o > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_fbsd/../../../../lib/libc/stdio/mktemp.c:38: syntax error before string constant > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_fbsd/../../../../lib/libc/stdio/mktemp.c:38: warning: data definition has no type or storage class The line it is complaining about, static const char rcsid[] = "$FreeBSD: src/lib/libc/stdio/mktemp.c,v 1.19.2.1 2001/01/20 09:35:24 kris Exp $"; Sure looks fine to me. > I've had repeated errors in doing a build since 4.5-release was released: > prior ones were in crypto code - I wonder if there is a stable src tree > that I can download and build... I've sync'd my cvs tree many times and > with each new source tree, something else is broken. Happy to be flamed > if I'm doing something stupid an just missing something somewhere... I've built world dozens of times since 4.5-RELEASE without significant difficulties. Do you have some customizations in make.conf(5) that might be messing with things? But this isn't really appropriate for a PR. I'll close up the PR, and you should try to get some help on freebsd-stable@freebsd.org. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 4:42:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov (gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.4.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9BD37B41B; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 04:42:08 -0800 (PST) To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Gregory Neil Shapiro , owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.9a January 7, 2002 Message-ID: From: "Robert L Sowders" Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 04:41:58 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlm03/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 03/29/2002 04:42:10 AM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_mixed 0045C32988256B8B_=" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=_mixed 0045C32988256B8B_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I would like to apologize to the community for my quick-fired-unthinking email. I should know better. But in my defense my fingers jerk uncontrollably toward the send key when I see people trashing software that has had so many man years of effort and review as sendmail. This should really jump over to chat now. "Karsten W. Rohrbach" 03/28/2002 04:52 AM To: Robert L Sowders cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... Robert L Sowders(rsowders@usgs.gov)@2002.03.28 03:39:51 +0000: > Greg is absolutely correct. yes, i agree > These whiners, who constantly moan for code while never contributing any, > should contribute the code if they want it changed. being a terrible c-coder i have to admit that, after having a warm fuzzy feel in the freebsd community since years, i did not contribute more than a single line of code (wich, when i recall it right, was a fix to the overall limit of FD_SETSIZE inducing severe resource limitations to a variety of daemons, including apache, that could not open more than 256 files/sockets at once). what i did here in germany was to convince customers that freebsd was much more stable and performant for their setups than other os alternatives, and that, if i am allowed to say, with success. with my heritage from systems administration and systems deployment, i am neither a kernel hacker nor a c-wizard, but that's okay (in my opinion, of course) for me. what i did and do contribute are ideas (well, some may have been pretty wacky) and i highly appreciate the effort of all contributing people, creating a serious amount of high-quality code and answering the many questions posted on the mailing lists. > Also I shudder to think that those who customize their systems would > actually learn how to use all the tools available to them to prevent a > makeworld from overwriting or undoing their customizations. :) this, i already learned quite a long time ago, but this does not really fix the -RELEASE giving no option on how to select subsystems before they are installed in the filesystem during bootstrap installation. and, yes, i did an own release based on -STABLE for internal use for quite some time, but this turned out to be a very time-consuming process. > I wish that we could assign a bitch rating to some of these emails. Say a > sliding bitch scale depending on how much code the bitchee has > contributed. Then they could easily be filtered to /dev/null. > Waddayathink? ;) ;-) i know, that my posts on the base dist "completeness" issues did not gain me a hundred points in core and the rest of the community, but i perceive the "reality" my way, in my eyes, thus certainly biased, too. i also get your point that, with my "bitch level", my reputation in the community might not have improved in the last days, but the lack of package installation manifests in general (mainly for contrib/*) is an important point in freebsd installation, deployment and administration. i and several other people do not consider this as a bikeshed question, but you are right, that code does not write itself. therefor - in my little spare time - i am currently looking into installation tracking and also netbsd's syspkg concept and implementation. > Much ado about nothing, so far, RTFM. you of course mean the fine manual that comes with /usr/src/release ;-) since i spun off the whole mess, that obviously upset a lot of people, and i've received several very emotional responses (which, i must say, have nothing to do with discussion of the technical issue) i will look into the options mentioned above and contact the responsible folks when i got something done. i have to add, that i never had the impression of the freebsd community in general being based on emotions rather than on technical facts. i really appreciate that greg spent his time on writing down his point of view, the facts about his part in the sendmail/freebsd and the problems he is seeing. his mail perfectly illustrates the professional attitude behind the development of freebsd, and this spirit makes it the favourite server os for many people throughout the world. regards, /k -- > Gravity is an unforgiving motherfucker. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.net/ GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 BF46 My mail is GnuPG signed -- Unsigned ones are bogus -- http://www.gnupg.org/ Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 10x --=_mixed 0045C32988256B8B_= Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="att7sffl.dat" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="att7sffl.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdudVBHIHYxLjAuNiAoRnJl ZUJTRCkNCkNvbW1lbnQ6IEZvciBpbmZvIHNlZSBodHRwOi8vd3d3LmdudXBnLm9yZw0KDQppRDhE QlFFOG94SDBNMEJQVGlsa3YwWVJBa1h1QUtDRDRoWTl5eUJ2azhwK21HeTQ1ZzNOOFhRQktBQ2VL N1NMDQpCRHdzN3ZQbElqWEtsQUQ4N0VwQ0tHOD0NCj0rS0daDQotLS0tLUVORCBQR1AgU0lHTkFU VVJFLS0tLS0NCg== --=_mixed 0045C32988256B8B_=-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 4:44: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov (gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.4.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3307737B405; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 04:43:58 -0800 (PST) To: Brian T.Schellenberger Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Gregory Neil Shapiro , owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.9a January 7, 2002 Message-ID: From: "Robert L Sowders" Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 04:43:53 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlm03/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 03/29/2002 04:43:56 AM, Serialize complete at 03/29/2002 04:43:56 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian T.Schellenberger 03/28/2002 05:07 AM To: "Robert L Sowders" , Gregory Neil Shapiro cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... |On Thursday 28 March 2002 06:39 am, Robert L Sowders wrote: || Greg is absolutely correct. || || These whiners, who constantly moan for code while never contributing any, || should contribute the code if they want it changed. || || Also I shudder to think that those who customize their systems would || actually learn how to use all the tools available to them to prevent a || makeworld from overwriting or undoing their customizations. :) |I was sorta wondering about that . . . |The whole mailwrapper takes care of this anyway, doesn't it? At least that's |what it's there for . . . don't you just re-install the port and voila! life |is good again? || I wish that we could assign a bitch rating to some of these emails. Say a || sliding bitch scale depending on how much code the bitchee has || contributed. Then they could easily be filtered to /dev/null. || Waddayathink? ;) |So what you are saying is that you never want people to use (or at least to |customize) FreeBSD unless they are FreeBSD developers? My original email was from anger and I'm sorry, what I should have said was that people that customize their systems and then want to upgrade it, should learn to use make.conf and cvsup refuse files so their customizations don't get over writtian, or at least not complain about it when it does if they can't be bothered. I also believe that the NetBSD syspkg idea is neato. My apologies to everyone. |That's the most extreme version of "we won't care about who uses it" that |I've ever heard. The fact is, it's a lot more convenient for all FreeBSD |users if the user base is expanded because it makes hardware and software |vendors pay more attention to FreeBSD. Ok beat me whip me, I been bad, I know. But I do care none the less. |So *some* accomidation to people who are at least willing to get their hands |dirty with scripts is in the interest of the entire FreeBSD community. Sure, |you don't want to lose all the benefits of FreeBSD in a mad rush to |accomodate the masses -- I left the Linux fold in part becuase I felt that |the mainstream distributions, at least, were going too far to do that, but |it's certainly possible to go too far in the other direction as well. || Much ado about nothing, so far, RTFM. |-- |Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . . bts@wnt.sas.com (work) |Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . bts@babbleon.org (personal) | ME --> http://www.babbleon.org |http://www.eff.org <-- GOOD GUYS --> http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 6:40:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx04.cluster0.hsacorp.net [209.225.8.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5864837B429; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 06:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [66.188.91.52] (HELO chris) by dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.3) with SMTP id 31361558; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:46:44 -0500 Message-ID: <00bb01c1d72f$5995aa60$345bbc42@mad.chartermi.net> From: "Lexion Trigue" To: Subject: OpenSSH vulnerability Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:38:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/1/264657 FreeBSD includes 2.9 in the base.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 6:47:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C51437B405 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 06:47:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scott@localhost) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2TEmCH02321 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:48:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:48:10 -0600 From: Scott Corey To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: make depend failure Message-ID: <20020329144810.GA96515@bsdprophet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have three different machine all using 4.5-Stable. Cvsup'd this morning. All give the same error when building the kernel: make: don't know how to make des_enc.S. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 7:12:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.113.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F1737B41A for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 07:12:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private.lan [192.168.0.2]) by pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2TFCFP97611; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:12:15 GMT (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3CA4844F.DE8FB92C@ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:12:15 +0000 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Guilherme Oliveira Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug ? Building kernel/world error on Cyrix References: <3CA3F28B.C28FA8A2@nortenet.pt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Guilherme Oliveira wrote: > > Hi ! > > I'm having serious problems building kernel or world in my Cyrix 200MHZ. > > Booting '4.5-RELEASE #0' it detects my processor as being Cyrix 6x86MX > (167.05-MHz 686-class CPU), that I think it's wrong ('6x86' ?!?!) and > maybe this is the origin for all my problems. That does seem strange, but you need a kernel hacker for that. While you're waiting for one... Did you installworld yet? If NOT try booting kernel.old to single user. If that looks okay, undo the the installkernel. What was the previous build? > > I've cvsup'd and builded freebsd all the time without problem until +- > 4.5 RELEASE. > I've tried building GENERIC with the same result. > > I have tried building world+kernel with 'CPUTYPE=i686' in make.conf and > 'cpu I686_CPU' (as allways did) in kernel but it gives me error in: Was the currently installed world built with this CPUTYPE=? What else is in /etc/make.conf? > > ===> portal > @ -> /usr/src/sys > machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include > perl @/kern/vnode_if.pl -h @/kern/vnode_if.src > Internal error at @/kern/vnode_if.pl line 248, chunk 472. > *** Error code 255 > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/portal. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SARPA. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > I have tried building world+kernel with 'CPUTYPE=i586' in make.conf and > 'cpu I586_CPU' in kernel but it gives me error in: > > /obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/bin/sh/error.c > cc -O -pipe -march=pentium -DSHELL -I. -I/usr/src/bin/sh -Wall > -Wformat -I/usr > /obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/bin/sh/eval.c > {standard input}: cc: Assembler messages: > Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11{standard > input}:0: > Warning: *** Error code 1 > end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted > Stop in /usr/src/bin/sh. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src/bin. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src. > bash-2.05# {standard input}:1107: Error: unbalanced parenthesis in > operand 2. Open the case and check the CPU fan with the system running. If you burn your finger it's not good enough :) Stop the system, take off the fan and read exactly what the chip is. IIRC it will say 6x86 MII, clock speed + voltage. Does the BIOS have a cyrix detect option? > > My partially dmesg: > > Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > reserved. > FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 11 05:52:10 WET 2002 > root@sarpa.garpa:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SARPA > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > CPU: Cyrix 6x86MX (167.05-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "CyrixInstead" Id = 0x600 Stepping = 0 DIR=0x0452 > Features=0x80a135 [snip] > My kernel configuration: > > # > # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 > # > # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on > # Kernel Configuration Files: > # > # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html > # > # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook > # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the > # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the > # latest information. > # > # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the > # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you > are > # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in > LINT. > # > # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.35 2001/09/27 17:43:06 > alfred Exp $ > > machine i386 > cpu I586_CPU # aka Pentium Pro(tm) > ident SARPA > maxusers 0 [snip] That comment doesn't belong to I586_CPU. -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 7:16:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from raven.ravenbrook.com (raven.ravenbrook.com [193.82.131.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62DC37B41D for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 07:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from thrush.ravenbrook.com (thrush.ravenbrook.com [193.112.141.249]) by raven.ravenbrook.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2TFGBO79750 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:16:11 GMT (envelope-from nb@ravenbrook.com) Received: from thrush.ravenbrook.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thrush.ravenbrook.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2TFGgK33470 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:16:42 GMT (envelope-from nb@thrush.ravenbrook.com) From: Nick Barnes To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: execl() after fork() in signal handler - strange things happen :) In-Reply-To: Message from =?koi8-r?Q?=E2=C5=D2=A3=DA=CB=CF_=E9=D7=C1=CE?= of "Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:22:31 +0300." <3649F9FBD2621F4498A022E513C5CA2101528B@falcon.win.infodom.ru> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:16:42 +0000 Message-ID: <33467.1017415002@thrush.ravenbrook.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've taken this over to -questions (the answer is: the signal is blocked in the handler, and that mask is inherited by first the child and then the execl'd process, so of course the new process can't see SIGHUP). Nick Barnes Ravenbrook Limited To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 7:32:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7A037B416 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 07:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix, from userid 100) id 49CB1217B5; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:32:42 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Vivek Khera To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial console vs. serial terminal Newsgroups: ml.freebsd.stable References: <20020328115551.R33831-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> X-Trace: lorax.kciLink.com 1017415173 71077 216.194.193.105 (29 Mar 2002 15:19:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: daemon@kciLink.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "DW" == Doug White writes: >> It's not taking input, but if I set syslogd to send *.err to * and then use >> logger to syslog something, then it shows up... DW> But you still can't get getty to wake up? DW> It so happens we have a spare TS2000 in the office today, I'll try rigging DW> it up. I have a rack of systems about 50 miles from my office that are hooked up to a TS1000 (just a smaller version of the TS2000) using the cables Cyclades sold to me. They work just fine to the console ports. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 7:37: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [194.228.200.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4053B37B405 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 07:36:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g2TFavm10180; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:36:57 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.9a) with ESMTP id 2002032916363865:8769 ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:36:38 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2TFpFC41532; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:51:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:51:15 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: David Wolfskill Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld broken Message-ID: <20020329155115.GK389@roman.mobil.cz> References: <20020329111951.GI389@roman.mobil.cz> <200203291330.g2TDUK696723@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200203291330.g2TDUK696723@bunrab.catwhisker.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 03/29/2002 04:36:38 PM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 03/29/2002 04:36:44 PM, Serialize complete at 03/29/2002 04:36:44 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 05:30:20 -0800 (PST) > From: David Wolfskill > To: neuhauser@mobil.cz > Subject: Re: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld broken > >cc -O2 -pipe -march=k6 -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. > >-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/i386 > >-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld > >-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../libbfd/i386 > >-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/include > >-DDEFAULT_EMULATION=\"elf_i386\" -DTARGET=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" > >-DSCRIPTDIR=\"/usr/libdata\" > >-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld > >-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd > >-DVERSION=\""2.11.2 20010719 [FreeBSD]"\" -DBFD_VERSION=\""2.11.2 > >20010719 [FreeBSD]"\" -static -o ld eelf_i386.o ldcref.o ldctor.o > >ldemul.o ldexp.o ldfile.o ldgram.o ldlang.o ldlex.o ldmain.o ldmisc.o > >ldver.o ldwrite.o lexsup.o mri.o ../libbfd/libbfd.a > >../libiberty/libiberty.a > >ldfile.o: In function `ldfile_open_command_file': > >ldfile.o(.text+0x50d): undefined reference to `had_script' > >ldlang.o: In function `load_symbols': > >ldlang.o(.text+0x130d): undefined reference to `yyparse' > >ldlex.o: In function `yylex': > >ldlex.o(.text+0x296): undefined reference to `yylval' > >ldlex.o(.text+0x2cb): undefined reference to `yylval' > >ldlex.o(.text+0x2e0): undefined reference to `yylval' > >ldlex.o(.text+0x2fd): undefined reference to `yylval' > >ldlex.o(.text+0x306): undefined reference to `yylval' > >ldlex.o(.text+0x31a): more undefined references to `yylval' follow > >ldmain.o: In function `main': > >ldmain.o(.text+0x299): undefined reference to `force_make_executable' > >ldmain.o(.text+0x3a0): undefined reference to `had_script' > >ldmain.o(.text+0x42c): undefined reference to `yyparse' > >ldmain.o(.text+0x59c): undefined reference to `force_make_executable' > >lexsup.o: In function `parse_args': > >lexsup.o(.text+0x5d4): undefined reference to `yyparse' > >lexsup.o(.text+0x876): undefined reference to `force_make_executable' > >lexsup.o(.text+0xe06): undefined reference to `had_script' > >lexsup.o(.text+0xe1a): undefined reference to `had_script' > >lexsup.o(.text+0xe29): undefined reference to `yyparse' > >*** Error code 1 > Are you still seeing this? > > Reason I ask is that I just finished building today's -STABLE: > > freebeast(4.5-S)[2] uname -a > FreeBSD freebeast.catwhisker.org 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #145: Fri Mar 29 05:11:46 PST 2002 root@freebeast.catwhisker.org:/common/S1/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBEAST i386 ... > and did not encounter the problem. Well, I moved /usr/src to /usr/src-stable, and extracted /usr/src from the 4.5 CD again. This time it (make -j4 buildworld) broke here: cc -O2 -pipe -march=k6 -Wall -I. -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c version.c rm -f version.c ; sed 's/.*/char version[] = "&";/' /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpslice/../../../contrib/tcpdump/VERSION > version.c cpp0: version.c: No such file or directory set `sed 's/\([0-9]*\)\.\([0-9]*\).*/\1 \2/' /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpslice/../../../contrib/tcpdump/VERSION` ; { echo '#define VERSION_MAJOR' $1 ; echo '#define VERSION_MINOR' $2 ; } > version.h *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error Since this is the 4.5-RELEASE code, I'm getting pretty nervous. It's a brand new box: Athlon 1700+ XP with 256 MB DDR in an Abit KR7A (VIA KT266A) board. I'm going to try again with a single make. -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 4:46PM up 5 days, 31 mins, 24 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.03, 0.00 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 7:50:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.113.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE7B37B404 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 07:50:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private.lan [192.168.0.2]) by pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2TFoKP97681; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:50:21 GMT (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3CA48D3C.2059C957@ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:50:20 +0000 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yann Ramin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug ? Building kernel/world error on Cyrix References: <3CA3F28B.C28FA8A2@nortenet.pt> <3CA40604.9050205@atrustrivalie.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yann Ramin wrote: > > Thats the official name of the Cyrix, although they were far from being > actual 686 CPUs. The clock speed reported is also correct. Cyrix rated > them with a PR rating which, unlike the Athlon XP ratings, was overly > optimistic. Your "200MHz" is a 200PR CPU, which did run at 166MHz, but > had the performance of maybe a 133 Pentium (I had a 166PR, which ran at > 133, until it self destructed). I would try changing CPUTYPE to i586 or > i486. > That is most unfair. I have a Cyrix 6x86 PR166. When I was given a P200 (P54C) my build times went from 6hrs to 5.5. So the Cyrix clocked at 133 wasn't to shabby, was it? [Yes, I know there are other factors.] IIRC it was about a third of the price too. If your chip died, your fan wasn't good enough. > All of this doesn't explain the perl related error you're seeing though > :) Try recvsuping. > > Yann > > Guilherme Oliveira wrote: > > >Hi ! > > > >I'm having serious problems building kernel or world in my Cyrix 200MHZ. > > > >Booting '4.5-RELEASE #0' it detects my processor as being Cyrix 6x86MX > >(167.05-MHz 686-class CPU), that I think it's wrong ('6x86' ?!?!) and > >maybe this is the origin for all my problems. > > > >I've cvsup'd and builded freebsd all the time without problem until +- > >4.5 RELEASE. > >I've tried building GENERIC with the same result. > > > >I have tried building world+kernel with 'CPUTYPE=i686' in make.conf and > >'cpu I686_CPU' (as allways did) in kernel but it gives me error in: > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 7:58:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evo2.evosoft.hu (evo2.evosoft.hu [194.143.228.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F4637B419; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 07:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from evosoft.hu (griff.evosoft.hu [172.16.110.26]) by evo2.evosoft.hu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2TG1pf15252; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:01:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Pelhrimovszky.Zsolt@evosoft.hu) Received: from evosoft.hu (pzso.evosoft.hu [172.16.110.144]) by evosoft.hu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2TFv5d01709; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:57:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Pelhrimovszky.Zsolt@evosoft.hu) Message-ID: <3CA48E9A.603B7040@evosoft.hu> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:56:10 +0100 From: "Pelhrimovszky, Zsolt" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,de,hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mystic network behaviour Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, in the past months we had a lot of network problems with our new FreeBSD gateway. These were network slowdowns. Playing with sysctls (rfc1323, newreno, syncookies, delayed_ack ..) didn't help. We upraded the system from 4.4 stable, up to 4.5 stable 2 weekly, downgraded it to 4.5 Release p2, but the slowdown still remained. The gateway has two interfaces: tx0 and tx1. tx0 was connected to 10Mb hub (towards to our ISPs router with 512Kbit leased line), tx1 to an 100MB switch (internal lan). The throughput was usually so much, that it filled the 512k bandwith. There were enough mbufs and other nerwork resources, the system does only gatewaying. The slowdown was caused by input errors on the tx0 interface (1-2 new errors per second, output from netstat -ni). Reinitialising it with ifconfig down and up stopped these errors for some time (from 2 minutes up to 2-3 days). Setting manually the ifconfig parameters (media, and mediaopts) also didn't help. The final solution was, that we changed the 10Mb hub to an 100MB switch, and now it works fine. Has anybody some ideas what was worng? Is a defect somewere in the FreeBSD ip-stack, or network driver implementation? Regards, Zs. Pelhrimovszky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 8: 3:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mserver2.gmu.edu (mail02.gmu.edu [129.174.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F6637B416 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:03:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sleipnir ([129.174.39.69]) by mserver2.gmu.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GTQSLL00.PCK for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:03:21 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Steve Bernard" To: Subject: RE: Mystic network behavior Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:02:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 In-Reply-To: <3CA48E9A.603B7040@evosoft.hu> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did you ensure that each interface had the proper speed and duplex settings? I've seen a lot of NICs set to 100-TX when they are connected to a 10-T hub. This can cause all kinds of seemingly anomalous network behavior, especially slowdowns and timeouts. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Pelhrimovszky, Zsolt Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:56 AM To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG; net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mystic network behaviour Hi, in the past months we had a lot of network problems with our new FreeBSD gateway. These were network slowdowns. Playing with sysctls (rfc1323, newreno, syncookies, delayed_ack ..) didn't help. We upraded the system from 4.4 stable, up to 4.5 stable 2 weekly, downgraded it to 4.5 Release p2, but the slowdown still remained. The gateway has two interfaces: tx0 and tx1. tx0 was connected to 10Mb hub (towards to our ISPs router with 512Kbit leased line), tx1 to an 100MB switch (internal lan). The throughput was usually so much, that it filled the 512k bandwith. There were enough mbufs and other nerwork resources, the system does only gatewaying. The slowdown was caused by input errors on the tx0 interface (1-2 new errors per second, output from netstat -ni). Reinitialising it with ifconfig down and up stopped these errors for some time (from 2 minutes up to 2-3 days). Setting manually the ifconfig parameters (media, and mediaopts) also didn't help. The final solution was, that we changed the 10Mb hub to an 100MB switch, and now it works fine. Has anybody some ideas what was worng? Is a defect somewere in the FreeBSD ip-stack, or network driver implementation? Regards, Zs. Pelhrimovszky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 8:10:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nortenet.pt (mar.nortenet.pt [212.13.32.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BC737B416 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:10:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from nortenet.pt (v1-pppS54.nortenet.pt [212.13.32.54]) by mail.nortenet.pt (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g2TF7Rh18915; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:07:27 +0100 Message-ID: <3CA49393.E112B4AA@nortenet.pt> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:17:23 +0000 From: Guilherme Oliveira Organization: Host-Valley.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.19 i586) X-Accept-Language: pt, pt-BR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yann Ramin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug ? Building kernel/world error on Cyrix [resolved] References: <3CA3F28B.C28FA8A2@nortenet.pt> <3CA40604.9050205@atrustrivalie.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yann Ramin wrote: > > Thats the official name of the Cyrix, although they were far from being > actual 686 CPUs. The clock speed reported is also correct. Cyrix rated I want my money back ! :)) > them with a PR rating which, unlike the Athlon XP ratings, was overly > optimistic. Your "200MHz" is a 200PR CPU, which did run at 166MHz, but > had the performance of maybe a 133 Pentium (I had a 166PR, which ran at > 133, until it self destructed). I would try changing CPUTYPE to i586 or > i486. I did only with optimizations for i386 wich build world+kernel just fine. Then I installed world+kernel and builded again with 'CPUTYPE=i686' in make.conf and 'cpu I686_CPU' in kernel configuration and builded fine again ... :/ > > All of this doesn't explain the perl related error you're seeing though > :) Try recvsuping. I did that several times. My problem maybe shows some problem that was introduced with some commit in perl. I think that I need some option in kernel configuration file specific to this processor such as CPU_CYRIX_NO_LOCK or CPU_LOOP_EN because when building breaked in vnode (using i686 optimizations) the cpu was almost 100% ... Thanks for all ! -- mailto:guilherme@nortenet.pt || http://guilherme.host-valley.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 8:51: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [194.228.200.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15EB37B405 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g2TGoMm03878; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:50:22 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.9a) with ESMTP id 2002032917500396:8830 ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:50:03 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2TH54j42364; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:05:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:05:04 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: David Wolfskill Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld broken Message-ID: <20020329170504.GP389@roman.mobil.cz> References: <20020329111951.GI389@roman.mobil.cz> <200203291330.g2TDUK696723@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <20020329155115.GK389@roman.mobil.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20020329155115.GK389@roman.mobil.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 03/29/2002 05:50:04 PM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.9a |January 7, 2002) at 03/29/2002 05:50:09 PM, Serialize complete at 03/29/2002 05:50:09 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:51:15 +0100 > From: Roman Neuhauser > To: David Wolfskill > Cc: freebsd-stable > Subject: Re: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld broken ... > > >lexsup.o: In function `parse_args': > > >lexsup.o(.text+0x5d4): undefined reference to `yyparse' > > >lexsup.o(.text+0x876): undefined reference to `force_make_executable' > > >lexsup.o(.text+0xe06): undefined reference to `had_script' > > >lexsup.o(.text+0xe1a): undefined reference to `had_script' > > >lexsup.o(.text+0xe29): undefined reference to `yyparse' > > >*** Error code 1 > > > Are you still seeing this? > > > > Reason I ask is that I just finished building today's -STABLE: > > > > freebeast(4.5-S)[2] uname -a > > FreeBSD freebeast.catwhisker.org 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #145: Fri Mar 29 05:11:46 PST 2002 root@freebeast.catwhisker.org:/common/S1/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBEAST i386 > ... > > > and did not encounter the problem. > > Well, I moved /usr/src to /usr/src-stable, and extracted /usr/src > from the 4.5 CD again. This time it (make -j4 buildworld) broke here: ... > Since this is the 4.5-RELEASE code, I'm getting pretty nervous. It's > a brand new box: Athlon 1700+ XP with 256 MB DDR in an Abit KR7A > (VIA KT266A) board. I'm going to try again with a single make. Seems like I can calm down again. Without the "-j4", make buildworld went ok. I'm building today's STABLE again. BTW, I know that parallel builds are not guaranteed to work, and I'd've tried a single make, but the ftpd broken yesterday got me confused. Sorry. -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 6:01PM up 5 days, 1:47, 25 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.06, 0.05 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 9:47:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mighty.grot.org (mighty.grot.org [204.182.56.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F4337B417 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by mighty.grot.org (Postfix, from userid 515) id 725395E8C; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:47:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:47:11 -0800 From: Aditya To: Vivek Khera Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial console vs. serial terminal Message-ID: <20020329174711.GC12102@mighty.grot.org> Reply-To: Aditya References: <20020328115551.R33831-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.grot.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x6405D8D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 07:32:51AM -0800, Vivek Khera wrote: > I have a rack of systems about 50 miles from my office that are hooked > up to a TS1000 (just a smaller version of the TS2000) using the cables > Cyclades sold to me. They work just fine to the console ports. I went the slightly more frustrating but cheaper route of buying the Cyclades TS2000 on eBay and fashioning my own cables; I did finally get them working with regular old CAT5 patch cables. The RJ45-DB9F modular adapter pinout that I used is detailed in the mailing list: http://docs.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=804788+0+cureebsd-stable The crux of the problem is that FreeBSD doesn't assert carrier on serial ports that aren't serving as the serial console so this has to be done "by the cable". This is in fact detailed in the handbook. Thanks for the help, Adi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 9:53:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.goldsword.com (rapier.goldsword.com [199.170.202.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA1837B405 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jfarmer@localhost) by rapier.goldsword.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19412; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:58:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:58:22 -0500 (EST) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <200203291758.MAA19412@rapier.goldsword.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Use of jot command [WAS: Re: sendmail_enable NONE ] Cc: jfarmer@goldsword.com In-Reply-To: <20020328163551.B77823@shell.wetworks.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:35:51 Alan Clegg said: > > > When was the last time you used jot(1)? Do you also want it removed from > > your installed system? > > Woah! Cool command... can't really think of how I'd use it, but... > > AlanC Jot is used to generate data for testing, when you need random data, patterned data, datasets of specific sizes, contents, etc. Quite a useful command when debugging, developing, etc. John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Owner & CTO GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com 865-691-6498 Knoxville TN Consulting, Design, & Development of Networks & Software To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 10:34:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.147.188.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B2937B405 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2TIYRF90105; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:34:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lowell@world.std.com) X-Authentication-Warning: be-well.ilk.org: lowell set sender to lowell@world.std.com using -f To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenSSH vulnerability References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 29 Mar 2002 13:34:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44eli39qa5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG lexion@jeah.net ("Lexion Trigue") writes: > http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/1/264657 > > FreeBSD includes 2.9 in the base.. This looks like it's for the vulnerability covered by a security advisory a couple of weeks ago. [FreeBSD-SA-02:18] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 10:37:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tara.freenix.org (keltia.freenix.org [62.4.20.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471AF37B41C; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by tara.freenix.org (Postfix/TLS, from userid 101) id 1C2F52AC4; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:37:50 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:37:50 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: Peter Wemm Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users Message-ID: <20020329183749.GA53905@tara.freenix.org> Mail-Followup-To: Peter Wemm , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020329054603.0D4A2390B@overcee.wemm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020329054603.0D4A2390B@overcee.wemm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT K6-3D/266 & 2x PIII/800 SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Peter Wemm: > > Opinions? > > Enthusiastic thumbs-up from me! :-) Nice idea, go for it. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 5.0-CURRENT #80: Sun Jun 4 22:44:19 CEST 2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 11:10:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from voi.aagh.net (pc1-hart4-0-cust168.mid.cable.ntl.com [62.254.84.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819E037B42F for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:10:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from freaky by voi.aagh.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16r1lU-0004Cx-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:10:20 +0000 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:10:20 +0000 From: Thomas Hurst To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail_enable NONE Message-ID: <20020329191019.GA11194@voi.aagh.net> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020328163551.B77823@shell.wetworks.org> <20020327154948.26668.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> <20020327115442.C27253@shell.one.net> <000c01c1d5bb$38e336e0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> <20020327200304.C43825@mail.webmonster.de> <20020328133020.B6416@hub.freebsd.org> <20020328163551.B77823@shell.wetworks.org> <20020328223826.F28059@freebie.xs4all.nl> <5.1.0.14.0.20020328154728.04ac2668@pop3s.schulte.org> <20020328141846.B15442@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020328141846.B15442@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Organization: Not much. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/4.5-PRERELEASE (i386) X-Uptime: 6:37PM up 99 days, 3:22, 3 users, load averages: 2.07, 2.05, 2.02 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Brooks Davis (brooks@one-eyed-alien.net) wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 03:51:50PM -0600, Christopher Schulte wrote: > > Some local root exploits can be prevented if unused setuid binaries > > have the bit removed. Thus if sendmail is not used (but you want to > > keep the binary around just in case) just chmod -s. > > Given that the cause of the pain revolving around the 8.12 MFC was > removing the setuid bit to sendmail, these comments are just a bit > inane. Most people who don't use sendmail probably set NO_SENDMAIL in their make.conf, so any such changes are pretty much irrelevent to them. As for other utilities (like jot) being unused; there's a huge difference between a little 8.5k tool and a multi-MB daemon with a history of vulnerabilities. The rc.conf changes are a bit ugly imo too; sendmail_enable=NO now means "start only some of sendmail" instead of "don't start sendmail", which is totally against the grain of the entire rc system. Users who set sendmail_enable=NO will now get bitten because they may well assume that covers everything in sendmail; I'd rather that be a meta-knob that enables the rest of the sendmail system, ala: if sendmail_enable=YES # check the rest of the sendmail_knobs fi This way users who disabled sendmail see no difference, and those who have it enabled, er, see no difference; if they're going to get confused over the new knobs beind disabled by the meta-knob, at least they're likely to read sendmail related stuff in UPDATING etc, which is far better than those who don't use sendmail finding themselves running daemons they don't want and which may pose a security hazard. -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - freaky@aagh.net - http://www.aagh.net/ - I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me. -- Hunter S. Thompson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 11:28:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f94.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E4B37B404 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:28:32 -0800 Received: from 67.32.217.219 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:28:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [67.32.217.219] From: "Roger Williams" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: cvsup help page...again Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:28:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Mar 2002 19:28:32.0103 (UTC) FILETIME=[E966A770:01C1D757] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I posted here a few days ago with a cvsup issue. Someone was nice enough to send me a link to a VERY helpful page. I thought I had saved it in my browser but now I cant find it. If the person who sent this to me would please send it again, I would be very greatful. Im not a member of this list so if you could send it to me at roger@roger.jp it would be great!!! Thanks, Roger _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 11:40:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sumter.awod.com (sumter.awod.com [208.140.99.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3B937B416 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from teddy.fas.com (pcp01010372pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net [68.58.176.67]) by sumter.awod.com (8.8.7/8.12.2) with ESMTP id OAA85348 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:40:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) X-Authentication-Warning: sumter.awod.com: User sandib [pcp01010372pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net] popped 71 seconds ago Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16r2G6-0005VZ-00 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:41:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:41:58 -0500 From: stan To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Help making second disk bootable Message-ID: <20020329194158.GA20822@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.17 X-Uptime: 14:27:34 up 6 days, 19:12, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.12, 0.29 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I Broke so much stuff with last weekends atempt at upgrading the base system and ports, that after fighting with it all week, all I really want is my machine back to the state it was in on last Friday :-( here is what I have: 1. A good set of Amanda backups. 2. A machine with several disk, everythign including /usr/local is on ad0, and ad1 is an identical disk. Here is my plan. 1. Use sysinstall to partion ads1 (done. I could not get it to partion just like ad1, but all the "auto" created partions are at least big enough, and I'm really wanting to wind up back on ads0, anyway). 2. Restore all 3 partions on ads1 (/, /var, usr). (runing as I type this). 3. Make ads1 bootable (How do I do this?). 4. Reboot, coming up on ads1. 5. Mount the 3 paritions of ads1, and do a rm -rf on them ( will I get burned by symlinks here?). 6. Uisng tar copy all 3 paritions of ads1 to the respective paritions of ads0. (Any risks of permissions, sticky bit loss here?) (tar cvpf - | tar xpf -). 7. Reboot using adsi (happy ending?). Can anyone see any problems with this strategy? Is there a safer one? Thanks for any sugestiosn, I'm prety frustrated at the moent, this was one sweet machien with several months of tweaking on it, and I dpended on it for daily use! -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 12:57:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.pressenter.com (hermes.pressenter.com [209.224.20.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0C137B41C for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:57:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [209.224.32.251] (helo=daggar.sbgnet.net) by hermes.pressenter.com with smtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 16r3RL-0007zN-00; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:57:40 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:58:30 -0600 From: Stephen Hilton To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: "Roger Williams" Subject: Re: cvsup help page...again Message-Id: <20020329145830.04eb9057.nospam@hiltonbsd.com> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: HiltonBSD.com X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.5) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:28:31 -0500 "Roger Williams" wrote: > Hello, > I posted here a few days ago with a cvsup issue. Someone was nice enough > to send me a link to a VERY helpful page. I thought I had saved it in my > browser but now I cant find it. If the person who sent this to me would > please send it again, I would be very greatful. Im not a member of this > list so if you could send it to me at roger@roger.jp it would be great!!! > > Thanks, > Roger > Thanks for the compliment Roger, the page you are lookin for is: http://www.hiltonbsd.com/articles/buildworld.php I regularly update this page as I find new tips, information, and corrections, and am always looking for feedback from others in the FreeBSD community. Regards, Stephen Hilton nospam@hiltonbsd.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 13:11:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D9737B41A for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913E6BDF7; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04863; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:11:08 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g2TL9U712301; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:09:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Guilherme Oliveira Cc: Yann Ramin , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug ? Building kernel/world error on Cyrix [resolved] References: <3CA3F28B.C28FA8A2@nortenet.pt> <3CA40604.9050205@atrustrivalie.org> <3CA49393.E112B4AA@nortenet.pt> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 29 Mar 2002 13:09:29 -0800 In-Reply-To: <3CA49393.E112B4AA@nortenet.pt> Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Guilherme Oliveira writes: > Then I installed world+kernel and builded again with 'CPUTYPE=i686' in > make.conf and 'cpu I686_CPU' in kernel configuration and builded fine > again ... :/ Yes, I ran the IBM 6x86MX PR233 version of that (187 MHz) under Linux and configured every not more Cyrix-specific as "686". I never regetted buying it, given my feelings toward WIntel. There are (or were) several web pages with all kinds of CPU register usage tricks only a few of which made it into the Linux kernel (and probably the same or fewer in the FreeBSD kernel). Most would consider such tweaking a waste of time, but somebody obviously didn't. There was a software package called "set6x86" which had tools I'd call from /etc/rc.local. I very much doubt if it would work with FreeBSD, but maybe you could hack it if you're into that sort of thing. There was something to enable low-power during "cpu idle". Something to fix the "COMA bug" which only some chip versions needed. Something for "Fast IORT" and something for "Enable WT_ALLOC". There was also some "Linear Video Frame Buffer" stuff that was supposed to help considerably (for some useages). I don't know what FreeBSD has for this stuff. I suppose you've looked in LINT. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 14:31:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F41137B417 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from prism.gatech.edu (r77h93.res.gatech.edu [128.61.77.93]) by acmey.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FC431FB2 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:31:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gte733p@prism.gatech.edu) Message-ID: <3CA4ED81.F0B9307F@prism.gatech.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:41:05 -0500 From: "Matthew L. Creech" Reply-To: gte733p@prism.gatech.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: shm & pthreads Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I searched for the answer to this, but couldn't find any information. I'm writing a program that uses shared memory (via shm_*) to communicate between two processes, each multithreaded. I need some way to synchronize the two processes, and while other methods are available (pipe, etc), I'd like to use pthreads mutexes, as it makes my coding much easier. I read that this is supported in Solaris, but not in Linux, but couldn't find any information on FreeBSD. I this legal? Thanks -- Matthew L. Creech To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 14:34:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AAD37B419 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g2TMYpq67679; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:34:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:34:51 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200203292234.g2TMYpq67679@apollo.backplane.com> To: Danny Schales Cc: Rolandas Naujikas , Bruce Campbell , Doug White , Wilko Bulte , "Paul Horechuk" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfs_fsync: not dirty error in 4.5-RELEASE (possible solution) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, I am putting this back on the main list. After looking at a kernel core that Danny graciously provided, I believe I have located the problem. The core shows NFS panicing on a struct buf showing up on the vnode's v_dirtyblkhd list that is not marked B_DELWRI. After examining the core I found that the buffer was marked B_INVAL, and I found a case in brelse() where B_DELWRI is cleared on a buffer marked B_DELWRI|B_INVAL without moving it out of the vnode's v_dirtyblkhd list. Specifically, line 1214 if kern/vfs_bio.c: /* * If B_INVAL, clear B_DELWRI. We've already placed the buffer * on the correct queue. */ if ((bp->b_flags & (B_INVAL|B_DELWRI)) == (B_INVAL|B_DELWRI)) { bp->b_flags &= ~B_DELWRI; --numdirtybuffers; numdirtywakeup(lodirtybuffers); } I believe that the correct fix is to change this code to: /* * If B_INVAL, clear B_DELWRI. We've already placed the buffer * on the correct queue. */ if ((bp->b_flags & (B_INVAL|B_DELWRI)) == (B_INVAL|B_DELWRI)) bundirty(bp); I would appreciate it if everyone who is able to easily reproduce this panic would test this fix and post your results back to the list. If this solves the problem I will commit it to -current and -stable. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 14:55:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C658E37B405 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2TMtm227118 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:55:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:55:48 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: PNP verbose? Message-ID: <20020329235548.A27104@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Question: is there any specific reason why lpt0: Polled port unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. is not hidden behind bootverbose? The message seems to originate from isa/isa_common.c /* * Disable the device. */ bus_print_child_header(device_get_parent(child), child); printf(" can't assign resources\n"); if (bootverbose) isa_print_child(device_get_parent(child), child); -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands We are FreeBSD. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be committed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 15:19:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F9937B404 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org ([12.234.91.48]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020329231941.WOJU2928.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@blossom.cjclark.org>; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:19:41 +0000 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2TNJfc91851; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:19:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:19:41 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: stan Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: Help making second disk bootable Message-ID: <20020329151941.Z97841@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <20020329194158.GA20822@teddy.fas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020329194158.GA20822@teddy.fas.com>; from stanb@awod.com on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 02:41:58PM -0500 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 02:41:58PM -0500, stan wrote: > I Broke so much stuff with last weekends atempt at upgrading the base system > and ports, that after fighting with it all week, all I really want is > my machine back to the state it was in on last Friday :-( > > here is what I have: > > 1. A good set of Amanda backups. > 2. A machine with several disk, everythign including /usr/local > is on ad0, and ad1 is an identical disk. > > Here is my plan. OK, you keep talking about ads1. Do you really mean ad1s1? > 1. Use sysinstall to partion ads1 (done. I could not get it to > partion just like ad1, but all the "auto" created partions are > at least big enough, and I'm really wanting to wind up back on > ads0, anyway). > 2. Restore all 3 partions on ads1 (/, /var, usr). (runing as I type > this). What do you mean by "restore?" If you can restore from your backups at this point, I don't see what the rest of the steps are for. > 3. Make ads1 bootable (How do I do this?). Provided your BIOS is OK with booting from this drive, you just need to put the boot blocks on it. See the '-B' option of disklabel(8) and fdisk(8). > 4. Reboot, coming up on ads1. > 5. Mount the 3 paritions of ads1, and do a rm -rf on them ( will I > get burned by symlinks here?). Uhhh... You boot onto ad1s1 and then rm(1) everything on it? Huh? > 6. Uisng tar copy all 3 paritions of ads1 to the respective paritions > of ads0. (Any risks of permissions, sticky bit loss here?) (tar cvpf - > | tar xpf -). Definate risk of losing permissions. > 7. Reboot using adsi (happy ending?). "adsi?" Wha'? > Can anyone see any problems with this strategy? Is there a safer one? If you are considering ad0s1 a complete loss, I'd just do an install of 4.5-RELEASE, or whatever -RELEASE might be handy if you have some release media, boot into single-user mode after the install, and then untar your backups right over it. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 15:44:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from buffy.fellownet.org (cp184099-a.venra1.lb.nl.home.com [213.51.186.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4C237B416 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:44:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from kerstenz6r4278 (hidden-user@medusa.iae.nl [212.61.24.65]) by buffy.fellownet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2TEi7W02751 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:44:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bob@medusa.nl) Message-ID: <001601c1d730$2c1cede0$2849a8c0@kerstenz6r4278> From: "Bob Kersten" To: Subject: pop3 e-mail client Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:44:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I was wondering if there's a pop3 e-mail client available that you can recommend. I want it to run in textmode, thus not in Xfree86 or anything, but the mail command is just not sufficient. I like it to have graphical elements such as /stand/sysinstall uses. Bob. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 16: 1:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1212C37B405 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:01:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from max ([12.254.136.195]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020330000118.XSCB2928.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@max>; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:01:18 +0000 Message-ID: <01cf01c1d77e$07564530$0900a8c0@max> From: "John Nielsen" To: "Bob Kersten" , References: <001601c1d730$2c1cede0$2849a8c0@kerstenz6r4278> Subject: Re: pop3 e-mail client Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:01:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kersten" To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 7:44 AM Subject: pop3 e-mail client > Hi, > > I was wondering if there's a pop3 e-mail client available that you > can recommend. I want it to run in textmode, thus not in Xfree86 or > anything, but the mail command is just not sufficient. I like it to > have graphical elements such as /stand/sysinstall uses. This belongs on -questions, not on -stable. mutt seems to be a favorite e-mail client. I generally use pine when I do mail from a non-graphical terminal. There are lots of ports available, though. Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/ports/mail.html JN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 16:14:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from buffy.fellownet.org (cp184099-a.venra1.lb.nl.home.com [213.51.186.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1226A37B419 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:14:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from kerstenz6r4278 (hidden-user@medusa.iae.nl [212.61.24.65]) by buffy.fellownet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2TEitW02757 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:44:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bob@fellownet.org) Message-ID: <003301c1d730$48c55ae0$2849a8c0@kerstenz6r4278> From: "Bob Kersten" To: Subject: pop3 email client Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:44:28 +0100 Organization: FellowNet Online Community MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I was wondering if there's a pop3 e-mail client available that you can recommend. I want it to run in textmode, thus not in Xfree86 or anything, but the mail command is just not sufficient. I like it to have graphical elements such as /stand/sysinstall uses. Bob. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 16:20:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5984137B405 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:20:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g2U0KHc25720; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:20:17 -0800 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:20:17 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: "Matthew L. Creech" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shm & pthreads Message-ID: <20020329162017.C19933@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <3CA4ED81.F0B9307F@prism.gatech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3CA4ED81.F0B9307F@prism.gatech.edu>; from gte733p@prism.gatech.edu on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 05:41:05PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 05:41:05PM -0500, Matthew L. Creech wrote: > I searched for the answer to this, but couldn't find any > information. I'm writing a program that uses shared memory (via > shm_*) to communicate between two processes, each multithreaded. I > need some way to synchronize the two processes, and while other > methods are available (pipe, etc), I'd like to use pthreads mutexes, > as it makes my coding much easier. I read that this is supported in > Solaris, but not in Linux, but couldn't find any information on > FreeBSD. I this legal? Thanks Unfortunatly, the freeBSD implementation of Poxix semaphores does not support shared semaphores. I believe the only portable option supported by FreeBSD is SysV semaphores which frankly suck. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pQTAXY6L6fI4GtQRAiPuAKDWK9euOU2MjAsKHsNzBbpBBPdGaQCg3BXt TekDSZ1xtXy72FI1l3HeaHQ= =sTXC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 16:39:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from motgate.mot.com (motgate.mot.com [129.188.136.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC6037B419 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: [from pobox3.mot.com (pobox3.mot.com [10.64.251.242]) by motgate.mot.com (motgate 2.1) with ESMTP id RAA20665; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:39:43 -0700 (MST)] Received: [from latour.rsch.comm.mot.com (latour.rsch.comm.mot.com [145.1.80.116]) by pobox3.mot.com (MOT-pobox3 2.0) with ESMTP id RAA11091; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:27:33 -0700 (MST)] Received: (from rittle@localhost) by latour.rsch.comm.mot.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2U0dg213975; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:39:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rittle) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:39:42 -0600 (CST) From: Loren James Rittle Message-Id: <200203300039.g2U0dg213975@latour.rsch.comm.mot.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shm & pthreads In-Reply-To: <3CA4ED81.F0B9307F@prism.gatech.edu> Organization: Networks and Infrastructure Lab (IL02/2240), Motorola Labs Cc: gte733p@prism.gatech.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <3CA4ED81.F0B9307F@prism.gatech.edu> you write: > I searched for the answer to this, but couldn't find any > information. I'm writing a program that uses shared memory (via > shm_*) to communicate between two processes, each multithreaded. I > need some way to synchronize the two processes, and while other > methods are available (pipe, etc), I'd like to use pthreads mutexes, > as it makes my coding much easier. FreeBSD 4-STABLE doesn't implement this feature (according to various POSIX standards, this is the symbol an implementation must define): /usr/include/sys/unistd.h:/* #define _POSIX_THREAD_PROCESS_SHARED */ Regards, Loren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 16:46: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lynx.syix.com (lynx.syix.com [205.171.72.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E9F37B400 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:46:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from cat (cat.npqr.net [63.147.19.40]) by lynx.syix.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2U0k1k07196 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:46:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pan@syix.com) Message-ID: <01ac01c1d784$43ef5da0$2813933f@cat> From: "pan" To: Subject: another way 4.5s is broken (user smmsp -> make installworld) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:45:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please excuse my tone - feeble excuse of brain numbness from hitting brick wall trying to cvsup to 4.5-stable formerly rock solid 4.4-stable on older PII machine at the point of make installworld I get the following: temporary solution below mkdir -p /tmp/install.730 for prog in [ awk cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find grep ln make makewhatis mtree mv perl rm sed sh sysctl test true uname wc zic; do cp `which $prog` /tmp/install.730; done cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj MACHINE_ARCH=i386 MACHINE=i386 OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/groff_font GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/tmac PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/u sr/src/i386/usr/games:/tmp/install.730 make -f Makefile.inc1 reinstall -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Making hierarchy -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 hierarchy cd /usr/src/etc; make distrib-dirs set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/locale.deprecated`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] ; do for dir in /usr/share/locale /usr/share/nls /usr/local/share/nls; do test -d /${dir} && cd /${dir}; test -L "$2" && rm -rf "$2"; test \! -L "$1" && test -d "$1" && mv "$1" "$2"; done; shift; shift; done mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p / tmp changed type expected dir found link var changed type expected dir found link mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var mtree: line 63: unknown user smmsp *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/etc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. stab in the dark solution: this machine is working right now on finishing make installworld after adduser'd smmsp I have no idea if the way I set up this new required sendmail user account is correct - I plan on rm'ing the user before mergemaster I assume user:smmsp is not needed to be created until mergemaster We'll see what I end up with when this machine is through with the process ... I do not have the confidence in 4.5-stable I have enjoyed for years with previous builds I wonder ..... still no working 4.5-stable that doesn't break ar0 (see posts in passim) Pan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 17: 1: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.113.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A530A37B41F; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private.lan [192.168.0.2]) by pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2U10lP98489; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 01:00:47 GMT (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3CA50E3F.43E719DF@ntlworld.com> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 01:00:47 +0000 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay, I have this running in (4.5) stable. A few lines caused some problems. To get it working I did this --- /usr/src/etc/sendmail/rc.sendmail Fri Mar 29 19:50:55 2002 +++ /etc/rc.sendmail Fri Mar 29 21:22:52 2002 @@ -47,15 +47,15 @@ fi # The sendmail binary -sendmail_program?= /usr/sbin/sendmail +sendmail_program=/usr/sbin/sendmail # The pid is used to stop and restart the running daemon(s). -sendmail_pidfile?= /var/run/sendmail.pid -sendmail_mspq_pidfile?= /var/spool/clientmqueue/sm-client.pid +sendmail_pidfile=/var/run/sendmail.pid +sendmail_mspq_pidfile=/var/spool/clientmqueue/sm-client.pid # If no argument is given, assume we are being called at boot time. -_action= ${1:-boot} -_script= ${0:-/etc/rc.sendmail} +_action=${1:-boot} +_script=${0:-/etc/rc.sendmail} case ${_action} in boot) Is sh different in current? /etc/mail/Makefile host#make restart Syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting "fi") *** Error code 2 Stop in /etc/mail. Is make different in current? Unfortunately (for me anyway) you can't just drop rc.sendmail(.sh) in /usr/local/etc/rc.d because "start" starts the mta but not the mspq and "stop" stops the mta but not the mspq Hmmm, It's deja vu all over again. It's not too difficult to write a startup script, but it duplicates much of the code in rc.sendmail. Which seems like a waste to me. -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 17: 5:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E383637B419; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a132.otenet.gr [212.205.215.132]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2U159QA014836; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 03:05:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2U155LM003210; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 03:05:05 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2U152Tj003206; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 03:05:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 03:04:56 +0200 (EET) From: Giorgos Keramidas X-X-Sender: charon@hades To: ian j hart Cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , , Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users In-Reply-To: <3CA50E3F.43E719DF@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20020330030304.D3075-100000@hades> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-03-30 01:00, ian j hart wrote: > Okay, I have this running in (4.5) stable. > > A few lines caused some problems. > > To get it working I did this > > --- /usr/src/etc/sendmail/rc.sendmail Fri Mar 29 19:50:55 2002 > +++ /etc/rc.sendmail Fri Mar 29 21:22:52 2002 > @@ -47,15 +47,15 @@ > fi > > # The sendmail binary > -sendmail_program?= /usr/sbin/sendmail > +sendmail_program=/usr/sbin/sendmail A better fix would be to use the sh(1) way of conditionally setting a variable: sendmail_program=${sendmail_program:-/usr/sbin/sendmail} Similarly for the rest of those ?= assignments. AFAIK, the ?= assignment style works in make rules. Perhaps that's where this came from :-) Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 17: 9:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.113.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA51437B405 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:09:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private.lan [192.168.0.2]) by pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2U19eP98500; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 01:09:40 GMT (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3CA51053.54545840@ntlworld.com> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 01:09:39 +0000 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pan Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: another way 4.5s is broken (user smmsp -> make installworld) References: <01ac01c1d784$43ef5da0$2813933f@cat> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG pan wrote: > > Please excuse my tone - feeble excuse of brain numbness from > hitting brick wall trying to cvsup to 4.5-stable > > formerly rock solid 4.4-stable on older PII machine > at the point of make installworld I get the following: > temporary solution below > > mkdir -p /tmp/install.730 > for prog in [ awk cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find grep ln make > makewhatis mtree mv perl rm sed sh sysctl test true uname wc zic; do cp > `which $prog` /tmp/install.730; done > cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj MACHINE_ARCH=i386 MACHINE=i386 > OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec > PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503 > GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin > GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/groff_font > GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/tmac > PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/u > sr/src/i386/usr/games:/tmp/install.730 make -f Makefile.inc1 reinstall > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Making hierarchy > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 hierarchy > cd /usr/src/etc; make distrib-dirs > set - `grep "^[a-zA-Z]" /usr/src/etc/locale.deprecated`; while [ $# -gt 0 ] > ; do for dir in /usr/share/locale /usr/share/nls /usr/local/share/nls; > do test -d /${dir} && cd /${dir}; test -L "$2" && rm -rf "$2"; test \! -L > "$1" && test -d "$1" && mv "$1" "$2"; done; shift; shift; done > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p / > tmp changed > type expected dir found link > var changed > type expected dir found link > mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p /var > mtree: line 63: unknown user smmsp > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/etc. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > stab in the dark solution: > > this machine is working right now on finishing make installworld after > adduser'd smmsp > > I have no idea if the way I set up this new required sendmail user account > is correct - I plan on rm'ing the user before mergemaster > I assume user:smmsp is not needed to be created until mergemaster Don't do that, it will break mergemaster. Fix it when merging master.passwd & group Did you use the right uid/gid? [wrapped] /etc/master.passwd:smmsp:*:25:25::0:0:Sendmail \ Submission User:/var/spool/clientmqueue:/sbin/nologin /etc/master.passwd:mailnull:*:26:26::0:0:Sendmail \ Default User:/var/spool/mqueue:/sbin/nologin /etc/group:smmsp:*:25: /etc/group:mailnull:*:26: > > We'll see what I end up with when this machine is through with the > process ... I do not have the confidence in 4.5-stable I have enjoyed > for years with previous builds > > I wonder ..... > > still no working 4.5-stable that doesn't break ar0 (see posts in passim) > > Pan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 18: 8: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lynx.syix.com (lynx.syix.com [205.171.72.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E50737B400 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from cat (cat.npqr.net [63.147.19.40]) by lynx.syix.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2U27sk17705 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:07:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pan@syix.com) Message-ID: <01c201c1d78f$b45be120$2813933f@cat> From: "pan" To: References: <01ac01c1d784$43ef5da0$2813933f@cat> <3CA51053.54545840@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: another way 4.5s is broken (user smmsp -> make installworld) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:07:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "ian j hart" > > > > I have no idea if the way I set up this new required sendmail user account > > is correct - I plan on rm'ing the user before mergemaster > > I assume user:smmsp is not needed to be created until mergemaster > > Don't do that, it will break mergemaster. > Fix it when merging master.passwd & group > Yes - I ended up seeing what the correct set up for smmsp AND mailnull are when mergemaster showed the diffs for master.passwd I had to add a bogus ssmsp user/group back in to get mergemaster to run at all What the problem was is that UPDATING and other notes mention not that smmsp and mailmull are needed just to cvsup to stable (haven't noticed anything here in stable about smmsp or mailnull either) and certainly what little clue is in /usr/src/... after cvs does not make plain in any open or ready fashion the details for smmsp & mailnull i.e. - it is possible for the clueful and semi-clueful (like me) to get past the stops, but info needs to be added to UPDATING now only if the ata driver was working in 4.5s .... again, apologies for my tone ... Pan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 18:34:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (afgate.speednet.com.au [203.57.65.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4179E37B400; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (andyf@backup.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.4]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2U2YIK26873; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 13:34:19 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 13:34:17 +1100 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-X-Sender: To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: , Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users In-Reply-To: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > In a somewhat unrelated note, I also plan on arranging to move the > sendmail-specific stuff out of src/etc/mail/ and into src/etc/sendmail so > the installation of things like sample sendmail maps, etc. don't clutter a > NO_SENDMAIL installation. I'll need to arrange this event with the CVS > repomeisters. Hopefully, this change (along with the patch) will make > things more palatable for non-sendmail users. Could you expand on this please? Why would a NO_SENDMAIL installworld install sendmail maps, etc. in the first place? It shouldn't matter what the source directory is. ps. not on -current atm (hence the xpost) - rectifying.... -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 18:48:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31A9E37B400 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 49728 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Mar 2002 02:48:42 -0000 Date: 29 Mar 2002 18:48:42 -0800 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:48:42 -0800 From: Bill Swingle To: pan Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: another way 4.5s is broken (user smmsp -> make installworld) Message-ID: <20020330024842.GA45394@dub.net> References: <01ac01c1d784$43ef5da0$2813933f@cat> <3CA51053.54545840@ntlworld.com> <01c201c1d78f$b45be120$2813933f@cat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01c201c1d78f$b45be120$2813933f@cat> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD toxic.magnesium.net 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 06:07:49PM -0800, pan wrote: > What the problem was is that UPDATING and other notes mention > not that smmsp and mailmull are needed just to cvsup to stable > (haven't noticed anything here in stable about smmsp or mailnull > either) >=20 > and certainly what little clue is in /usr/src/... after cvs > does not make plain in any open or ready fashion the details for > smmsp & mailnull >=20 > i.e. - it is possible for the clueful and semi-clueful (like me) to get > past the stops, but info needs to be added to UPDATING I agree, this should have been added to UPDATING. I'm sure this is just a symptom of warner being bogged down at the moment. Don't get too steamed :) -Bill BTW, this bit me too. --=20 -=3D| Bill Swingle - -=3D| Every message PGP signed -=3D| Fingerprint: C1E3 49D1 EFC9 3EE0 EA6E 6414 5200 1C95 8E09 0223 -=3D| "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers" Pablo Picasso= =20 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pSeKUgAclY4JAiMRAsj6AJsGWPXzHy41QE4VdpGV6zWnBO+2MACgkybY jCa/4FL2GcbEGvdIbJ7XI34= =Lx2p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 19: 7:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au [210.49.20.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC2237B404 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from optusnet.com.au (golax9-244.dialup.optusnet.com.au [211.28.105.244]) by mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g2U37kJ11214 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 14:07:46 +1100 Message-ID: <3CA52D0D.61EFD4@optusnet.com.au> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 13:12:13 +1000 From: Ian Pulsford X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Ricoh CD-RW problems. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I tried copying files from some CDs today, including one burnt by the drive, to hard disk and got a lot of read errors. eg. Mar 30 12:30:16 cyning /kernel: vm_fault: pager read error, pid 436 (cp) Mar 30 12:30:21 cyning /kernel: acd0: READ_BIG - HARDWARE ERROR asc=08 ascq=03 error=00 Mar 30 12:30:21 cyning /kernel: vm_fault: pager read error, pid 436 (cp) Mar 30 12:30:24 cyning /kernel: acd0: READ_BIG - HARDWARE ERROR asc=08 ascq=03 error=00 The CD-RW drive is only a few months old so I am reluctant to think it is faulty. It is a Ricoh MP7163A. Or is it the VIA 82C686? uname -a FreeBSD cyning.werod.net 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #0: Mon Mar 18 21:56:46 EST 2002 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CYNING i386 Are the recent instabilities with the new ata code fixed yet? I also have a promise raid controller so I have been holding off CVSuping lately. Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 19:37: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (afgate.speednet.com.au [203.57.65.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C2E37B400 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (andyf@backup.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.4]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2U3ZtK26998; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 14:36:01 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 14:35:55 +1100 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-X-Sender: To: Bill Swingle Cc: pan , Subject: Re: another way 4.5s is broken (user smmsp -> make installworld) In-Reply-To: <20020330024842.GA45394@dub.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 29 Mar 2002, Bill Swingle wrote: > On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 06:07:49PM -0800, pan wrote: > > What the problem was is that UPDATING and other notes mention > > not that smmsp and mailmull are needed just to cvsup to stable > > (haven't noticed anything here in stable about smmsp or mailnull > > either) > > I agree, this should have been added to UPDATING. I'm sure this is just > a symptom of warner being bogged down at the moment. Don't get too > steamed :) > > -Bill > > BTW, this bit me too. > I have marks as well. Perhaps this will help: --- UPDATING-orig Sat Mar 30 14:00:01 2002 +++ UPDATING Sat Mar 30 14:32:19 2002 @@ -9,6 +9,16 @@ the common items quick how-tos, followed by entries for versions of -current prior to 4.0 Release. +20020330: + Due to the import of sendmail 8.12.2 two new usernames are + required in order for it to run as a set-group-ID binary. + Unfortunately, a 'make installworld' will attempt to set the + owner:group of /var/spool/clientmqueue to the new names and + will fail if nonexistent. + + Username 'smmsp' and groupname 'smmsp' should be created before + doing an installworld. + 20020325: sendmail 8.12.2 has been imported. The sendmail binary is no longer a set-user-ID root binary and the infrastructure to support -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 23:15:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chen.org.nz (adsl-210.54.19.51.quicksilver.net.nz [210.54.19.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB8A37B41A for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:15:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by chen.org.nz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2U7EuK10591; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:14:56 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:14:56 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Bob Kersten Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pop3 email client Message-ID: <20020330191456.A10417@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <003301c1d730$48c55ae0$2849a8c0@kerstenz6r4278> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <003301c1d730$48c55ae0$2849a8c0@kerstenz6r4278>; from bob@fellownet.org on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 03:44:28PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 03:44:28PM +0100, Bob Kersten wrote: > Hi, This question should be in -questions, not -stable. > I was wondering if there's a pop3 e-mail client available that you > can recommend. I want it to run in textmode, thus not in Xfree86 or > anything, but the mail command is just not sufficient. I like it to > have graphical elements such as /stand/sysinstall uses. Use fetchmail and mutt/pine/mailx. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 29 23:36: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (castle.jp.FreeBSD.org [210.226.20.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BFA37B421 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [::1]) by castle.jp.FreeBSD.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.3) with ESMTP/inet6 id g2U7Zqc98020; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 16:35:52 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <200203281026.g2SAQQv47727@arwen.bmm.it> References: <52166678511.20020328120932@mirror.kiev.ua> <52166678511.20020328120932@mirror.kiev.ua> <200203281026.g2SAQQv47727@arwen.bmm.it> X-User-Agent: Mew/1.94.2 XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo) X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 14 From: Makoto Matsushita To: deana@bmm.it Subject: Re: The last stable iso snapshot Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 16:35:48 +0900 Message-Id: <20020330163548U.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does any body know, where can I get the last version of STABLE (!) > vresion of FreeBSD in iso images. deana> http://snapshots.jp.freebsd.org/ But current 4-stable ISO doesn't for install although it boots fine. I've investigated a little, and found that what's the problem in sysinstall. Maybe easy to fix it; it seems that sysinstall doesn't know that /dev/acdXc minor device number was changed after new ATA's code was MFCed. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 4:52:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.113.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44BD37B41C for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 04:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private.lan [192.168.0.2]) by pc3-cove5-0-cust178.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2UCnsP01983; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 12:49:55 GMT (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3CA5B472.88306E1C@ntlworld.com> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 12:49:54 +0000 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Farkas Cc: Bill Swingle , pan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: another way 4.5s is broken (user smmsp -> make installworld) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andy Farkas wrote: > > On 29 Mar 2002, Bill Swingle wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 06:07:49PM -0800, pan wrote: > > > What the problem was is that UPDATING and other notes mention > > > not that smmsp and mailmull are needed just to cvsup to stable > > > (haven't noticed anything here in stable about smmsp or mailnull > > > either) > > > > I agree, this should have been added to UPDATING. I'm sure this is just > > a symptom of warner being bogged down at the moment. Don't get too > > steamed :) > > > > -Bill > > > > BTW, this bit me too. > > > > I have marks as well. Perhaps this will help: > > --- UPDATING-orig Sat Mar 30 14:00:01 2002 > +++ UPDATING Sat Mar 30 14:32:19 2002 > @@ -9,6 +9,16 @@ > the common items quick how-tos, followed by entries for versions of > -current prior to 4.0 Release. > > +20020330: > + Due to the import of sendmail 8.12.2 two new usernames are > + required in order for it to run as a set-group-ID binary. > + Unfortunately, a 'make installworld' will attempt to set the > + owner:group of /var/spool/clientmqueue to the new names and > + will fail if nonexistent. > + > + Username 'smmsp' and groupname 'smmsp' should be created before > + doing an installworld. > + > 20020325: > sendmail 8.12.2 has been imported. The sendmail binary is no > longer a set-user-ID root binary and the infrastructure to support > As Greg Shapiro pointed out to me, this is in the handbook, section 19.4.3. This will only bite you if your system is prior to 4.5-RELEASE. That's when the new users were added. While I'm here 4.5 RELEASE doesn't seem to be documented in UPDATING. -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 5:29:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [192.35.17.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FCD37B41A; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 05:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.11]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2UDR7R14223; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 14:27:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2UDR6C22306; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 14:27:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) id g2UDR6CB023642; Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 14:27:05 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Cc: Coleman Kane , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users Message-ID: <20020330142705.A11712@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> <00d501c1d688$f35031e0$0200a8c0@gauss> <20020328142740.A4076@shell.one.net> <000a01c1d69a$1a9a1de0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <000a01c1d69a$1a9a1de0$11fd2fd8@westbend.net>; from hetzels@westbend.net on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 02:49:49PM -0600 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.3.1(snapshot 20020109) (curry.mchp.siemens.de) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 28-Mar-2002 at 14:49:49 -0600, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: > From: "Coleman Kane" > > Another thing to look at is the /usr/sbin/sendmail -> mailwrapper link > that is > > produced from installworld. In current it seems to have been linking that, > even > > Stable creates the same links to mailwrapper. > > > when NO_SENDMAIL=yes in make.conf. Qmail et al. overwrite this with their > own > > workalike (since /usr/sbin/sendmail is a 'standard' these days) local > mailer. > > I dunno if -stable has this problem too. > > > You want to set NO_MAILWRAPPER in make.conf to prevent the linking to This might give you more problems: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29699 Nobody seems to have agreed to a solution yet... :-) -Andre > mailwrapper. But if you do this, you'll loose the configurablity that > mailwrapper provides for alternate MTA's via /etc/mail/mailer.conf. > > Qmail install shouldn't need to install anything into /usr/[sbin,bin] > directories with mailwrapper properly configured (see `man mailer.conf` & > 'man mailwrapper'). > > Mailwrapper was designed so that you didn't need to re-create your links to > your personal MTA (in /usr/[bin,sbin], when upgrading FreeBSD. > > Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 10: 6:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.pilikia.net (ns1.pilikia.net [66.180.134.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93E937B41E for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from uluru.local.net (uluru.local.net [10.25.0.4]) by ns1.pilikia.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2UI6PX49597 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:06:25 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from art@pilikia.net) Received: from gecko (gecko.local.net [10.25.0.9]) by uluru.local.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2UI6Oi69049 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:06:25 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from art@pilikia.net) Message-ID: <200203300806240930.26A8750A@10.25.0.4> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.20.02.00 (3) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:06:24 -1000 Reply-To: art@pilikia.net From: "Arthur W. Neilson III" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd.org dns Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS/NAI-uvscan-4.14 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What's up with the broken dns for freebsd.org? Mar 30 07:56:08 ns1.pilikia.net sendmail[49553]: g2UHu8X49553:= ruleset=3Dcheck_rcpt, arg1=3D, relay=3D[216.136.204.119],= reject=3D450 4.7.1 ... Relaying temporarily denied.= Cannot resolve PTR record for 216.136.204.119 Mar 30 07:56:09 ns1.pilikia.net sendmail[49553]: g2UHu8X49553:= from=3D, size=3D3226, class=3D0,= nrcpts=3D0, proto=3DESMTP, daemon=3DMTA, relay=3D[216.136.204.119] I've got a zillion entries like the above in my maillog starting from last= nite... art@ns1.pilikia.net# whois freebsd.org Whois Server Version 1.3 Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information. FREEBSD.ORG.IS.DAMN.ELITE.SO.IS.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG FREEBSD.ORG To single out one record, look it up with "xxx", where xxx is one of the of the records displayed above. If the records are the same, look them up with "=3Dxxx" to receive a full display for each record. >>> Last update of whois database: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 05:18:18 EST <<< The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and Registrars. ok authoratative ns is freebsd.org ... art@ns1.pilikia.net# nslookup Default Server: localhost.pilikia.net Address: 127.0.0.1 > server freebsd.org Default Server: freebsd.org Address: 216.136.204.21 > 216.136.204.21 Server: freebsd.org Address: 216.136.204.21 *** Request to freebsd.org timed-out > 216.136.204.119 Server: freebsd.org Address: 216.136.204.21 *** Request to freebsd.org timed-out > set type=3Dmx > freebsd.org Server: freebsd.org Address: 216.136.204.21 *** Request to freebsd.org timed-out -- __ / ) _/_ It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. /--/ __ / Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, / (_/ (_<__ Instead of theories to suit facts. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Scandal in Bohemia" Arthur W. Neilson III, WH7N - FISTS #7448 Bank of Hawaii Network Services http://www.pilikia.net art@pilikia.net, aneilson@boh.com, wh7n@arrl.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 10:13: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45D437B419; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:12:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 836AB5346; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:12:53 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 30 Mar 2002 19:12:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Neil Shapiro writes: > Given that non-sendmail users will be inconvenienced when upgrading due to > the 8.12 changes (need to change sendmail_enable from "NO" to "NONE"), Why? It doesn't make any difference as long as one uses the mailwrapper stuff: des@des ~% grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf sendmail_enable="YES" des@des ~% cat /etc/mail/mailer.conf # # Execute the Postfix sendmail program, named /usr/local/sbin/sendmail # sendmail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail send-mail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail mailq /usr/local/sbin/sendmail newaliases /usr/local/sbin/sendmail So what's all this noise and racket about? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 10:19:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF53537B405; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0) with ESMTP id g2UIJgRn069079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0/Submit) id g2UIJfQR069076; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:19:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15526.445.486145.824151@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:19:41 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users In-Reply-To: References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Given that non-sendmail users will be inconvenienced when upgrading due to >> the 8.12 changes (need to change sendmail_enable from "NO" to "NONE"), des> Why? It doesn't make any difference as long as one uses the des> mailwrapper stuff: des> des@des ~% grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf des> sendmail_enable="YES" This fixes things for people who use sendmail_enable="NO". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 10:26:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D948C37B416; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0) with ESMTP id g2UIQpRn069170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0/Submit) id g2UIQobJ069167; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:26:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15526.874.816916.27384@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:26:50 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: ian j hart Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users In-Reply-To: <3CA3D127.E6C68295@ntlworld.com> References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3CA3D127.E6C68295@ntlworld.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ianjhart> One small quibble. If I want to set ianjhart> mta_start_script="" ianjhart> and run rc.sendmail(.sh) from /usr/local/etc/rc.d ianjhart> shouldn't "stop" kill both queues? You'd need to add ianjhart> a stop-mtaq obviously. ianjhart> A global restart might be nice too. Yes, rc.sendmail should follow the standard start/stop conventions. I'll fix it up today and post a new version. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 10:31:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C504837B417 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:31:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2UIVS705391 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:31:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h68n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.68]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA01429 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:31:28 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 2091 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Mar 2002 18:31:20 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:31:20 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users Message-ID: <20020330183119.GA2054@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Gregory Neil Shapiro , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 07:12:52PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Gregory Neil Shapiro writes: > > Given that non-sendmail users will be inconvenienced when upgrading due to > > the 8.12 changes (need to change sendmail_enable from "NO" to "NONE"), > > Why? It doesn't make any difference as long as one uses the > mailwrapper stuff: Yes, it does. > > des@des ~% grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf > sendmail_enable="YES" > des@des ~% cat /etc/mail/mailer.conf > # > # Execute the Postfix sendmail program, named /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > # > sendmail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > send-mail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > mailq /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > newaliases /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > > So what's all this noise and racket about? This assumes that the replacement "sendmail" binary accepts the same options as the real sendmail. In particular the options that are used by default in the rc* files. This is not the case for qmail for example. (And there the normal use is not to start it with sendmail_enable="YES" but rather from its own start file under /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ after disabling sendmail with sendmail_enable="NO" (now "NONE"), which I think should be the standard behaviour for alternative MTAs.) So, if one uses qmail this change does require you to modify the sendmail_* options in /etc/rc.conf. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 10:50:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1A037B417; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0) with ESMTP id g2UIm3Rn069620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0/Submit) id g2UIm2tP069617; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:48:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15526.2146.372206.565056@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:48:02 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: ian j hart , , Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users In-Reply-To: <20020330030304.D3075-100000@hades> References: <3CA50E3F.43E719DF@ntlworld.com> <20020330030304.D3075-100000@hades> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG keramida> A better fix would be to use the sh(1) way of conditionally setting a keramida> variable: keramida> sendmail_program=${sendmail_program:-/usr/sbin/sendmail} keramida> Similarly for the rest of those ?= assignments. keramida> AFAIK, the ?= assignment style works in make rules. keramida> Perhaps that's where this came from :-) Thanks, that will teach me to write a script at 5:30 in the morning. I'll post a new version shortly. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 10:50:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EE437B41C; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0) with ESMTP id g2UIohRn069634 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:50:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0/Submit) id g2UIodTu069631; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:50:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15526.2303.386086.392383@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:50:39 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Andy Farkas Cc: , Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users In-Reply-To: References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> In a somewhat unrelated note, I also plan on arranging to move the >> sendmail-specific stuff out of src/etc/mail/ and into src/etc/sendmail so >> the installation of things like sample sendmail maps, etc. don't clutter a >> NO_SENDMAIL installation. I'll need to arrange this event with the CVS >> repomeisters. Hopefully, this change (along with the patch) will make >> things more palatable for non-sendmail users. andyf> Could you expand on this please? Why would a NO_SENDMAIL andyf> installworld install sendmail maps, etc. in the first place? It andyf> shouldn't matter what the source directory is. That's just the way /usr/src/etc/Makefile has always been. Strictly speaking, the source files don't have to move, I think it would be more logical if they did. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 10:54:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from greg.cex.ca (h24-207-26-100.dlt.dccnet.com [24.207.26.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90B5137B49E for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 60874 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Mar 2002 18:54:16 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:54:16 -0800 From: Greg White To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd.org dns Message-ID: <20020330105415.A60561@greg.cex.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200203300806240930.26A8750A@10.25.0.4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200203300806240930.26A8750A@10.25.0.4>; from art@pilikia.net on Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 08:06:24AM -1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat Mar 03/30/02, 2002 at 08:06:24AM -1000, Arthur W. Neilson III wrote: > What's up with the broken dns for freebsd.org? > > Mar 30 07:56:08 ns1.pilikia.net sendmail[49553]: g2UHu8X49553: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=, relay=[216.136.204.119], reject=450 4.7.1 ... Relaying temporarily denied. Cannot resolve PTR record for 216.136.204.119 > Mar 30 07:56:09 ns1.pilikia.net sendmail[49553]: g2UHu8X49553: from=, size=3226, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=[216.136.204.119] > > I've got a zillion entries like the above in my maillog starting from last nite... You actually defer mail delivery based on the availability of PTR records? This is, IMHO, a _spectacularly_ bad idea, and one of the reasons that this is so is stuff like this. Perhaps sendmail is doing this 'for' you by default (I stopped running sendmail years ago). I humbly suggest that you find a way to turn this off. > art@ns1.pilikia.net# whois freebsd.org > [snipping some of the useless whois output] > FREEBSD.ORG.IS.DAMN.ELITE.SO.IS.JIMPHILLIPS.ORG > FREEBSD.ORG > > To single out one record, look it up with "xxx", where xxx is one of the > of the records displayed above. If the records are the same, look them up > with "=xxx" to receive a full display for each record. > > ok authoratative ns is freebsd.org ... Umm...No. freebsd.org, the host is _not_ an authoritative server for freebsd.org, the zone*. Read the whois output more carefully. Whois has told you nothing thanks to the 31337 sk1llz of the folks at jimphillips.org. Not to mention the fact that the authoritative servers for the forward lookup zone 'freebsd.org' may or may not be the same servers authoritative for 119.204.136.216in-addr.arpa, the record you actually care about -- and in this case, they are not. Asking the freebsd.org servers will get you nowhere, unless they refer you somewhere else. :) A simple walk of the tree for 119.204.136.216.in-addr.arpa leads me to ns[12345].yahoo.com, all of which are lame for 204.136.216.in-addr.arpa, and refer back to the roots, which refer you to ARIN, which refer you back to yahoo, ad nauseam. Looks to me like the admins of ns[12345].yahoo.com need to fix their in-addr.arpa zone(s). *At least, not by name. Any ability I have to go farther in findout out depends on PTR records, which we don't got. :) -- Greg White To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 11: 0:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F27337B417 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0) with ESMTP id g2UJ0CRn069790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0/Submit) id g2UJ0Cn8069787; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:00:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15526.2876.707939.487106@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:00:12 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Andy Farkas Cc: Subject: Re: another way 4.5s is broken (user smmsp -> make installworld) In-Reply-To: References: <20020330024842.GA45394@dub.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG andyf> I have marks as well. Perhaps this will help: andyf> --- UPDATING-orig Sat Mar 30 14:00:01 2002 andyf> +++ UPDATING Sat Mar 30 14:32:19 2002 Thanks, I've mailed Warner a slightly modified version of your text for src/UPDATING. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 11: 1:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zardoc.esmtp.org (adsl-63-195-85-27.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.85.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A2A37B405 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from zardoc.esmtp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zardoc.esmtp.org (8.12.3.Beta3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2UJ0UX8007345 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ca@localhost) by zardoc.esmtp.org (8.12.3.Beta3/8.12.3.Beta1/Submit) id g2UJ0U88013573 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:00:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:00:30 -0800 From: Claus Assmann To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd.org dns Message-ID: <20020330110030.A13938@zardoc.esmtp.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200203300806240930.26A8750A@10.25.0.4> <20020330105415.A60561@greg.cex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <20020330105415.A60561@greg.cex.ca>; from gregw-freebsd-stable@greg.cex.ca on Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 10:54:16AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 30, 2002, Greg White wrote: > On Sat Mar 03/30/02, 2002 at 08:06:24AM -1000, Arthur W. Neilson III wrote: > > What's up with the broken dns for freebsd.org? > > > > Mar 30 07:56:08 ns1.pilikia.net sendmail[49553]: g2UHu8X49553: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=, relay=[216.136.204.119], reject=450 4.7.1 ... Relaying temporarily denied. Cannot resolve PTR record for 216.136.204.119 > > Mar 30 07:56:09 ns1.pilikia.net sendmail[49553]: g2UHu8X49553: from=, size=3226, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=[216.136.204.119] > > > > I've got a zillion entries like the above in my maillog starting from last nite... > > You actually defer mail delivery based on the availability of PTR > records? This is, IMHO, a _spectacularly_ bad idea, and one of the No. > reasons that this is so is stuff like this. Perhaps sendmail is doing > this 'for' you by default (I stopped running sendmail years ago). I No. > humbly suggest that you find a way to turn this off. The OP has misconfigured his machine. It assumes that this is a relaying attempt. Hence the error message (with an explanation). The OP should read the sendmail FAQ. Assuming pilikia.net is a local domain (which the ns1.pilikia.net implies) it should be added to class {w}. Details can be found in cf/README: If your host is known by several different names, you need to augment class {w}. This is a list of names by which your host is known, and anything sent to an address using a host name in this list will be treated as local mail. You can do this in two ways: either create the file /etc/mail/local-host-names containing a list of your aliases (one per line), and use ``FEATURE(`use_cw_file')'' in the .mc file, or add ``LOCAL_DOMAIN(`alias.host.name')''. Be sure you use the fully-qualified name of the host, rather than a short name. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 11:13:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from greg.cex.ca (h24-207-26-100.dlt.dccnet.com [24.207.26.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 038EB37B416 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:13:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 61119 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Mar 2002 19:14:10 -0000 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:14:10 -0800 From: Greg White To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd.org dns Message-ID: <20020330111409.B60561@greg.cex.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200203300806240930.26A8750A@10.25.0.4> <20020330105415.A60561@greg.cex.ca> <20020330110030.A13938@zardoc.esmtp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020330110030.A13938@zardoc.esmtp.org>; from freebsd+stable@esmtp.org on Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 11:00:30AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat Mar 03/30/02, 2002 at 11:00:30AM -0800, Claus Assmann wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2002, Greg White wrote: > > On Sat Mar 03/30/02, 2002 at 08:06:24AM -1000, Arthur W. Neilson III wrote: > > > What's up with the broken dns for freebsd.org? > > > > > > Mar 30 07:56:08 ns1.pilikia.net sendmail[49553]: g2UHu8X49553: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=, relay=[216.136.204.119], reject=450 4.7.1 ... Relaying temporarily denied. Cannot resolve PTR record for 216.136.204.119 > > > Mar 30 07:56:09 ns1.pilikia.net sendmail[49553]: g2UHu8X49553: from=, size=3226, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=[216.136.204.119] > > > > > > I've got a zillion entries like the above in my maillog starting from last nite... > > > > You actually defer mail delivery based on the availability of PTR > > records? This is, IMHO, a _spectacularly_ bad idea, and one of the > > The OP has misconfigured his machine. It assumes that this is a > relaying attempt. Hence the error message (with an explanation). Apologies to all. I caught only the 'Cannot resolve PTR', I should have read more closely. :( Sigh... Breaking my rule about posting before coffee often gets me in trouble. I do stand by my in-addr.arpa diagnosis -- I checked it again, and I've had coffee now... ;) -- Greg White To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 11:46:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0A637B41B; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0) with ESMTP id g2UJkbRn070066 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0/Submit) id g2UJkb5j070063; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:46:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15526.5660.883425.137921@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:46:36 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another possible solution for non-sendmail users In-Reply-To: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <15523.14636.146301.834847@horsey.gshapiro.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to some reviewers, a couple of problems with my last patch have been fixed. This time, I've actually tried the combinations involved to make sure it works. The changes from the last patch are only to /etc/mail/Makefile and /etc/rc.sendmail. rc.sendmail changes: - Use proper shell variable substitution - Make it more like rc.d scripts: - start, stop, and restart now affect all daemons, not just the MTA. - New targets: start-mta, stop-mta, restart-mta - Optimize by using functions instead of making the script re-execute itself. Makefile changes: - Fix syntax error - Check for pidfile before trying to use it with kill (warn if not present) - Minor cosmetic changes The updated patch is available in the same location: http://people.freebsd.org/~gshapiro/mta-start I've also pulled out the two changed files for those who have already patched: http://people.freebsd.org/~gshapiro/Makefile http://people.freebsd.org/~gshapiro/rc.sendmail I'll give this new patch a couple of days review time before committing it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 12:25:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vulcan.rsasecurity.com (vulcan.rsasecurity.com [204.167.114.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 319F637B405 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 12:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdtihq24.securitydynamics.com by vulcan.rsasecurity.com via smtpd (for [216.136.204.18]) with SMTP; 30 Mar 2002 20:24:28 UT Received: from ebola.securitydynamics.com (ebola.securid.com [192.80.211.4]) by sdtihq24.securid.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06836 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 15:24:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from spirit.dynas.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ebola.securitydynamics.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id g2UKPIS17336 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 15:25:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28355 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2002 20:25:14 -0000 Received: from explorer.rsa.com (HELO mikko.rsa.com) (10.81.217.59) by spirit.dynas.se with SMTP; 30 Mar 2002 20:25:14 -0000 Received: (from mikko@localhost) by mikko.rsa.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2UKP9701386; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 12:25:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikko) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 12:25:09 -0800 (PST) From: Mikko Tyolajarvi Message-Id: <200203302025.g2UKP9701386@mikko.rsa.com> To: iberiozko@infodom.ru Cc: stable@freebsd.org Orig-To: =?koi8-r?Q?=E2=C5=D2=A3=DA=CB=CF_=E9=D7=C1=CE?= Subject: Re: execl() after fork() in signal handler - strange things happen :) Newsgroups: local.freebsd.stable References: <3649F9FBD2621F4498A022E513C5CA2101528B@falcon.win.infodom.ru> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In local.freebsd.stable you write: >Hello, people. >The problem is - when doing execl() after fork() inside a signal handler, >the signal is not delivered to executed child anymore. Is this correct? (I >understand, that doing such things is a bad idea, but... :) Looks like a result of the signal by default being blocked while the signal handler is executing. The child inherits the signal mask. Looks like linux (some version) behaves in the same way, but not (random versions of) solaris, hp-ux and aix. If you want to portably have full control over signal handling, you have to do it yourself using sigprocmask(), sigaction() etc. And yes, it is probably a bad idea to call things like syslog() in a signal handler :^) $.02, /Mikko -- Mikko Työläjärvi_______________________________________mikko@rsasecurity.com RSA Security To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 14:52:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E592237B47B for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 14:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 90392 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Mar 2002 22:50:53 -0000 Date: 30 Mar 2002 14:50:53 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 14:50:53 -0800 From: Bill Swingle To: ian j hart Cc: Andy Farkas , pan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: another way 4.5s is broken (user smmsp -> make installworld) Message-ID: <20020330225053.GA89394@dub.net> References: <3CA5B472.88306E1C@ntlworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3CA5B472.88306E1C@ntlworld.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD toxic.magnesium.net 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 12:49:54PM +0000, ian j hart wrote: > As Greg Shapiro pointed out to me, this is in > the handbook, section 19.4.3. That doesn't help if you don't know you need to look for it. > This will only bite you if your system is prior > to 4.5-RELEASE. That's when the new users were > added. Nope, sorry. I was running 4.5-STABLE from late January when upgrading. -Bill --=20 -=3D| Bill Swingle - -=3D| Every message PGP signed -=3D| Fingerprint: C1E3 49D1 EFC9 3EE0 EA6E 6414 5200 1C95 8E09 0223 -=3D| "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers" Pablo Picasso= =20 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pkFNUgAclY4JAiMRAjK9AKCGvrX/EW6ic1RrgzqrwDbeKhqt4wCfVGC5 gkGUAKaULo2j+Ntklgfrqs4= =q9TB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 15:26:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (sccmmhc02.mchsi.com [204.127.203.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141BE37B41D for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 15:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([12.216.241.154]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020330232146.YILQ24267.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@math.missouri.edu> for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 23:21:46 +0000 Message-ID: <3CA64883.39751AA0@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 17:21:39 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RELENG_3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I notice that there have not been any changes to RELENG_3 for a very long time. Is it now for sure that it will not receive any more updates, or is there some chance, even a very small chance, that it might receive some update in the future? -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 15:37:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6211A37B41D for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 15:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2UNb3117487 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 00:37:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h68n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.68]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA04464 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 00:37:03 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 7606 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Mar 2002 23:36:58 -0000 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 00:36:58 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_3 Message-ID: <20020330233657.GA7554@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <3CA64883.39751AA0@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3CA64883.39751AA0@math.missouri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 05:21:39PM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > I notice that there have not been any changes to RELENG_3 for a very > long time. Is it now for sure that it will not receive any more > updates, or is there some chance, even a very small chance, that it > might receive some update in the future? Actually I think there was some commit to RELENG_3 just a couple of weeks ago. Yes, there is definitely a chance that there will be more updates to RELENG_3 in the future. I would actually be quite surprised if there wasn't at least one commit to RELENG_3 during the next year. Who knows, there might even be a commit or two to RELENG_2_2 yet to come. (Unlikely, but not impossible.) Basically, all the branches receive updates as long as there is some committer out there who is interested in updating that branch. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 15:45:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F227237B419 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 15:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (gshapiro@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0) with ESMTP id g2UNjCRn071784 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Mar 2002 15:45:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.3.Gamma0/8.12.3.Gamma0/Submit) id g2UNjCFp071781; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 15:45:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15526.19976.282741.106546@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 15:45:12 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Bill Swingle Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: another way 4.5s is broken (user smmsp -> make installworld) In-Reply-To: <20020330225053.GA89394@dub.net> References: <3CA5B472.88306E1C@ntlworld.com> <20020330225053.GA89394@dub.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.00 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> This will only bite you if your system is prior >> to 4.5-RELEASE. That's when the new users were >> added. unfurl> Nope, sorry. I was running 4.5-STABLE from late January when upgrading. I don't see how that is possible. If you were running 4.5-STABLE from January (or any other 4.5), you would have the change. It was committed November 24th, 2001 and has the 4.5 release tag on it so it is definitely in 4.5: Revision 1.25.2.1, Sat Nov 24 17:22:24 2001 UTC (4 months ago) by gshapiro Branch: RELENG_4 CVS Tags: RELENG_4_5_BP, RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE, RELENG_4_5 Changes since 1.25: +3 -1 lines MFC: Add two new accounts/groups (smmsp and mailnull) for sendmail. The only way I could think of that this could happen is if you didn't run mergemaster back when you did your January upgrade. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 16:44:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lilzcluster.liwest.at (lilzclust01.liwest.at [212.33.55.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D153337B405 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 16:44:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from andinb by lilzcluster.liwest.at (8.10.2/1.1.2.11/08Jun01-1123AM) id g2V0hKW0000628208; Sun, 31 Mar 2002 01:43:21 +0100 (MET) From: "Andreas Holzinger" To: Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 03:44:25 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 17:43:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AB0937B417 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 17:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 64030 invoked by uid 1001); 31 Mar 2002 01:43:52 -0000 Date: 30 Mar 2002 17:43:52 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 17:43:52 -0800 From: Bill Swingle To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: another way 4.5s is broken (user smmsp -> make installworld) Message-ID: <20020331014351.GB89394@dub.net> References: <3CA5B472.88306E1C@ntlworld.com> <20020330225053.GA89394@dub.net> <15526.19976.282741.106546@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15526.19976.282741.106546@horsey.gshapiro.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD toxic.magnesium.net 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 03:45:12PM -0800, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > >> This will only bite you if your system is prior > >> to 4.5-RELEASE. That's when the new users were > >> added. >=20 > unfurl> Nope, sorry. I was running 4.5-STABLE from late January when upgr= ading. >=20 > I don't see how that is possible. If you were running 4.5-STABLE from > January (or any other 4.5), you would have the change. It was committed > November 24th, 2001 and has the 4.5 release tag on it so it is definitely > in 4.5: >=20 > Revision 1.25.2.1, Sat Nov 24 17:22:24 2001 UTC (4 months ago) by gshap= iro=20 > Branch: RELENG_4=20 > CVS Tags: RELENG_4_5_BP, RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE, RELENG_4_5=20 > Changes since 1.25: +3 -1 lines >=20 > MFC: Add two new accounts/groups (smmsp and mailnull) for sendmail. >=20 > The only way I could think of that this could happen is if you didn't run > mergemaster back when you did your January upgrade. I did run mergemaster but didn't put the new users in my passwd file. I don't run sendmail and had no use for them. No one ever mentioned that it would break the world if I didn't have the users. Not a big deal really, it just shoud have made it into UPDATING. -Bill --=20 -=3D| Bill Swingle - -=3D| Every message PGP signed -=3D| Fingerprint: C1E3 49D1 EFC9 3EE0 EA6E 6414 5200 1C95 8E09 0223 -=3D| "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers" Pablo Picasso= =20 --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8pmnXUgAclY4JAiMRAu4+AKCEWM/h4m7liFxCz96zSswPdJ/09wCfZpYQ 6Vmyf2bo021Dg0EuWnS9ZvM= =rSif -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 30 19:56:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ion.gank.org (ion.gank.org [64.81.113.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7889A37B416 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:56:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from aldaris (dsl081-113-221.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.113.221]) by ion.gank.org (GankMail) with ESMTP id 1A2C27B for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 21:58:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <041901c1d868$059f5110$5f45a8c0@auir.gank.org> Reply-To: "Craig Boston" From: "Craig Boston" To: Subject: More 4.5-stable ATA problems Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 21:56:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bah, thought I was just lucky after seeing all the trouble reports on the list about the new ATA drivers. Just cvsupped my fileserver about an hour ago and am now getting these messages intermittently (each immediately following a 2-3 second total freeze of the box, including the console). ad6: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting ata3: resetting devices .. done ad6: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting ata3: resetting devices .. ata3-slave: ATA identify retries exceeded done ad4: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting ata2: resetting devices .. done ...with this hardware: atapci2: port 0xc400-0xc40f,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb800-0xb803,0xb400-0xb407 irq 10 at device 16.0 on pci0 It's worked perfectly until today. Sorry, Soren :-( At least it hasn't panicked so far. Anyway, just thought I'd report this so that everybody's aware there may be a problem with these cards and stable. I've attached the boot messages with bootverbose, as well as a few of the error messages with it on also in case it helps track anything down. This box is somewhat important to me, so I'm in the process of downgrading to RELENG_4_5. This should be a fun buildworld :D Craig bootverbose dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #0: Sat Mar 30 20:20:15 CST 2002 xxxxx@yyyyy:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TASSADAR Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 350798695 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193193 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (350.80-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping = 12 Features=0x8021bf AMD Features=0x80000800 Data TLB: 128 entries, 2-way associative Instruction TLB: 64 entries, 1-way associative L1 data cache: 32 kbytes, 32 bytes/line, 2 lines/tag, 2-way associative L1 instruction cache: 32 kbytes, 32 bytes/line, 2 lines/tag, 2-way associative Write Allocate Enable Limit: 128M bytes Write Allocate 15-16M bytes: Enable real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009ffff, 651264 bytes (159 pages) 0x00352000 - 0x07ff7fff, 130703360 bytes (31910 pages) avail memory = 127422464 (124436K bytes) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00fb010 bios32: Entry = 0xfb490 (c00fb490) Rev = 0 Len = 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xb4c0 pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00fc060 pnpbios: Entry = f0000:c088 Rev = 1.0 Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 00000000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc032b000. K6-family MTRR support enabled (2 registers) md0: Malloc disk Creating DISK md0 pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80000058 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=154110b9) Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00fdda0 apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface i586_bzero() bandwidth = 1729129089 bytes/sec bzero() bandwidth = 1452159140 bytes/sec pcib0: on motherboard found-> vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x1541, revid=0x04 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e0000000, size 25 found-> vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x5243, revid=0x04 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=1 secondarybus=1 found-> vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x5237, revid=0x03 class=0c-03-10, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=11 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e6910000, size 12 found-> vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x1533, revid=0xc3 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x1095, dev=0x0649, revid=0x02 class=01-04-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=12 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 0000a000, size 3 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 0000a400, size 2 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base 0000a800, size 3 map[1c]: type 1, range 32, base 0000ac00, size 2 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000b000, size 4 found-> vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x5229, revid=0xc1 class=01-01-fa, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=255 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 000001f0, size 4 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 000003f4, size 2 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base 00000170, size 4 map[1c]: type 1, range 32, base 00000374, size 2 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000f000, size 4 found-> vendor=0x1095, dev=0x0649, revid=0x02 class=01-04-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=10 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 0000b400, size 3 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 0000b800, size 2 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base 0000bc00, size 3 map[1c]: type 1, range 32, base 0000c000, size 2 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000c400, size 4 found-> vendor=0x1039, dev=0x6326, revid=0x0b class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e6000000, size 23 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base e6900000, size 16 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base 0000c800, size 7 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x1229, revid=0x08 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=15 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e6911000, size 12 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 0000cc00, size 6 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base e6800000, size 20 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 ohci0: mem 0xe6910000-0xe6910fff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: AcerLabs OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xb000-0xb00f,0xac00-0xac03,0xa800-0xa807,0xa400-0xa403,0xa000-0xa007 irq 12 at device 14.0 on pci0 ata-: ata2 exists, using next available unit number ata2: iobase=0xa000 altiobase=0xa402 bmaddr=0xb000 ata2: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata2-master: ATAPI 00 00 ata2-slave: ATAPI 00 00 ata2: mask=03 stat0=50 stat1=00 ata2-master: ATA 01 a5 ata2: devices=01 ata2: at 0xa000 on atapci0 ata3: iobase=0xa800 altiobase=0xac02 bmaddr=0xb008 ata3: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata3-master: ATAPI 00 00 ata3-slave: ATAPI 00 00 ata3: mask=03 stat0=50 stat1=00 ata3-master: ATA 01 a5 ata3: devices=01 ata3: at 0xa800 on atapci0 using shared irq12. atapci1: port 0xf000-0xf00f,0x374-0x377,0x170-0x17f,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1ff at device 15.0 on pci0 ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xf000 ata0: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata0-master: ATAPI 14 eb ata0-slave: ATAPI 7f 7f ata0: mask=03 stat0=00 stat1=00 ata0: devices=04 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci1 ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xf008 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci1 atapci2: port 0xc400-0xc40f,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb800-0xb803,0xb400-0xb407 irq 10 at device 16.0 on pci0 ata-: ata2 exists, using next available unit number ata-: ata2 exists, using next available unit number ata4: iobase=0xb400 altiobase=0xb802 bmaddr=0xc400 ata4: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata4-master: ATAPI 00 00 ata4-slave: ATAPI 00 00 ata4: mask=03 stat0=50 stat1=00 ata4-master: ATA 01 a5 ata4: devices=01 ata4: at 0xb400 on atapci2 ata5: iobase=0xbc00 altiobase=0xc002 bmaddr=0xc408 ata5: mask=03 ostat0=7f ostat2=7f ata5-master: ATAPI 7f 7f ata5-slave: ATAPI 7f 7f ata5: mask=03 stat0=7f stat1=7f ata5-master: ATA 7f 7f ata5-slave: ATA 7f 7f ata5: devices=00 ata5: at 0xbc00 on atapci2 using shared irq10. pci0: (vendor=0x1039, dev=0x6326) at 18.0 fxp0: port 0xcc00-0xcc3f mem 0xe6800000-0xe68fffff,0xe6911000-0xe6911fff irq 15 at device 20.0 on pci0 fxp0: using memory space register mapping using shared irq15. fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:xx:yy:zz :-) fxp0: PCI IDs: 8086 1229 8086 000c 0008 fxp0: Dynamic Standby mode is disabled inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto bpf: fxp0 attached ata-: ata0 exists, using next available unit number ata-: ata1 exists, using next available unit number Trying Read_Port at 203 USR3070: start dependant USR3070: adding fixed io range 0x2f8-0x2ff, size=0x8, align=0x1 USR3070: adding irq mask 00x8 USR3070: start dependant USR3070: adding fixed io range 0x3f8-0x3ff, size=0x8, align=0x1 USR3070: adding irq mask 0x10 USR3070: start dependant USR3070: adding fixed io range 0x3e8-0x3ef, size=0x8, align=0x1 USR3070: adding irq mask 0xb8 USR3070: start dependant USR3070: adding fixed io range 0x2e8-0x2ef, size=0x8, align=0x1 USR3070: adding irq mask 0xb8 USR3070: end dependant isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices orm0: