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Date:      Sat, 30 Mar 2002 22:34:35 -0500
From:      Brian T.Schellenberger <bts@babbleon.org>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1017977276.02fe2d@mired.org>
Cc:        Peter Leftwich <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>, Jonathan Arnold <jdarnold@buddydog.org>, Zach Barnett <zpb@hotmail.com>, FreeBSD Questions <FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Packages and Ports [pkg vs portupgrade?]
Message-ID:  <20020331033435.930E3BA05@i8k.babbleon.org>
In-Reply-To: <15526.33340.92839.452773@guru.mired.org>
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On Saturday 30 March 2002 10:27 pm, Mike Meyer wrote:
| In <20020330221500.95097BA05@i8k.babbleon.org>, Brian T.Schellenberger 
<bts@babbleon.org> typed:
| > On Saturday 30 March 2002 01:57 pm, Mike Meyer wrote:
| > | In <20020330135112.AA22EBA05@i8k.babbleon.org>, Brian T.Schellenberger
| >
| > <bts@babbleon.org> typed:
| > | > The only reason I can think of to do things the "traditional" Unix
| > | > way is if the port isn't getting a recent enough version of the
| > | > software or is somehow broken.
| > |
| > | How about if you want to know how to install the software in question
| > | on a non-FreeBSD machine?
| >
| > Ummm . . . did you get off at the wrong universe?
| >
| > Well, the original question was about packages and ports.
| > And this *is* a FreeBSD mailing list.
| > I think a context was implied here.
|
| Right. We're talking about reasons for wanting to install from the
| tarball on a FreeBSD machine which as a port. Having easy access to a
| FreeBSD machine but wanting to know how to deal with some software on
| non-freebsd machines isn't unheard of. Especially if you make a living
| helping people with that other software, and don't want to limit your
| people running it on FreeBSD.
|
| > Besides, don't think that packages would work very well on a non-FreeBSD
| > machine, either.
|
| Correct. That's when you want to know how to install it from the
| tarball. Just because the port exists doesn't mean you can't do that
| on a FreeBSD machine.
|
| > | I'd also add wanting a different
| > | configuration than any you can get with the port, as it's not clear
| > | that that qualifies as "somehow broken".
| >
| > I was *discussing* how to use ports to get a different configuration than
| > you can install with a port.
| > I don't think you read my original mail very carefully.
|
| I don't think you read my reply very carefully. Or would you care to
| explain how to get my favorited configuration of Apache - which uses
| the python module, a postgress authentication module, with dynamic
| module loading turned off - to build from ports?


I already have. Use the ports to "build patch" so that you get the soruce 
downloaded and patched automatically; then change to the work directory and 
continue as you would with a straight tarball install, only now you've 
already had handy FreeBSD patches installed.

Which is, of course, exactly what my first mail message said.  Are you *sure* 
you read it?

|
| 	<mike

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