From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 8 12:09:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABF3106566B for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (77-99-36-42.cable.ubr04.chap.blueyonder.co.uk [77.99.36.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880ED8FC29 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 11E671CC55; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:33:58 -0700 (PDT) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice and Vision To: Zbigniew Szalbot Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:33:57 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200809080247.47237.david@vizion2000.net> <200809080521.03550.david@vizion2000.net> <48C51492.1060103@lcwords.com> In-Reply-To: <48C51492.1060103@lcwords.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200809080533.57793.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:09:59 -0000 On Monday 08 September 2008 05:03:30 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > David Southwell: > > In yesterday's world anyone could send a physical letter to any address > > anywhere in the world. I get spam letters through the letter box it is up > > to me to chuck them in the bin. Why should the internet be different > > especially when the restrictions on fixed IPs are brought about soleley > > for commercial interests. > > Because of sheer volume... in yesterday's world one was not able to send > thousands of letters in a few seconds for free...or by using services > one has not paid for... In the past world one paid to send and received for free. That was the deal. In the past people abused the mail system by using forged stamps or freepost labels. There is no difference. I pay for my connection to receive.. and pay for my connection to send. Some people just want to not paly their part in absorbing the risks that go with participation. It is up to us to defend our systems. To classify a whole load of users, the majority of whom are genuine, as invalid users is degrading and discriminatory. My point of viwew -- you are entitled to yours but IMHO not to enforce it!! David