Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:28:24 -0400 From: "C J Michaels" <cjm2@earthling.net> To: "Southwell" <vizion@ptialaska.net>, "Mike Smith" <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: IEEE 1394 support Message-ID: <NDBBILKDCLLECBCLPMBIOECECAAA.cjm2@earthling.net> In-Reply-To: <00d701bfa59c$b95b1aa0$82e346c6@demon.co.uk>
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BFA7F2.EA656120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My understanding of IEEE 1394 is that it is patented by Apple and anyone who wishes to use it has to pay a royalty to Apple. Maybe I misunderstood and this only applies to hardware manufacturers. -- Chris -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Southwell Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 7:04 PM To: Mike Smith Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IEEE 1394 support Hi I posted a query relating to Firewire support and Mike came back with the awful news that he felt the field was so laced with patents that it was not worth trying.. I am quite interested in seeing if a way round the problems can be found - does anyone have any pointers. What I felt would be useful would be to try to support either the Texas Instruments IEEE 1394 OCHI compliant controller or some of the other cards that are available. (I have an on board TI chip). Does anyone have a link to some information that can identify the patent problems Mike referred to? Initially I would like to be able to get a "simple" capture program that would generate either AVI Type 1 or Type 2 files from a camcorder. Are the problems as insurmountable as Mike seems to feel they are? David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Smith" <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG> To: "Southwell" <vizion@ptialaska.net> Cc: <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:08 AM Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support > > Is any one working on firewire (IEEE 1394) support for camcorders? > > No; the field is laced with patents which prevent any really useful work > being done. 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