Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:59:43 -0500 (EST) From: Doug Hass <dhass@imagestream.com> To: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, MurrayTaylor <taylorm@bytecraft.au.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Alfred Shippen <ashippen@metromatics.com.au> Subject: RE: FYI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1011014205751.18236A-100000@ims1.imagestream.com> In-Reply-To: <006001c15491$1c1c6aa0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
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Ted, We're SBS' worldwide distributor. Others who resell them buy them from us or from one of our distributors. In any case, I can ASSURE you without a doubt that the WANic 400 series and the entire RISCom/N2 series are end of life as of the end of September. If you have questions, feel free to contact me at your convenience. Regards, Doug ----- Doug Hass ImageStream Internet Solutions dhass@imagestream.com http://www.imagestream.com Office: 1-219-935-8484 Fax: 1-219-935-8488 On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > There are other vendors that sell the WanIC than Imagestream. I realize > that you see yourself as the only supplier but this isn't true. > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Doug Hass > >Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 3:11 PM > >To: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Ted Mittelstaedt; MurrayTaylor; > >freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >Cc: Alfred Shippen > >Subject: Re: FYI > > > > > >I'm providing this to the people whose addresses appear in the original > >messages. My apologies if this gets cross-posted or sent multiple times > >to the same place. As I mention below, the WANic 400 series cards and all > >of the RISCom/N2 series cards are now End Of Life, and only available in > >special quantity builds. > > > >If anyone reading this message needs further information, please contact > >me directly and I can go into further depth about the EOL cards mentioned > >below and their replacements in the SBS line. > > > >Regards, > > > >Doug > > > >----- > > > >Doug Hass > >ImageStream Internet Solutions > >dhass@imagestream.com > >http://www.imagestream.com > >Office: 1-219-935-8484 > >Fax: 1-219-935-8488 > > > > > >On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Doug Hass wrote: > > > >> The WANic 400 series is definitely EOL. The cards are available in > >> quantities of 100+ only by special order. The RISCom/N2 series cards are > >> also EOL. > >> > >> This is a recent decision--it went into effect as of September 21st. > >> Closeout quantities have already been sold to other companies, so the > >> cards are only available by special order. > >> > >> The WANic 521/522 have replaced these cards, and should be used instead. > >> There are no drivers for FreeBSD, however. > >> > >> Doug > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Alfred Shippen wrote: > >> > >> > This guy is local to you and is under the misapprehension that > >the Risc/400 > >> > series is not a discontinued item. I dont know if you want to > >follow them up > >> > or not. My customer (Bytecraft) is fine by this and has passed on the > >> > comments to me. > >> > > >> > Cheers > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> > >> > > To: "MurrayTaylor" <taylorm@bytecraft.au.com>; > >> > > <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>; <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG> > >> > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 3:07 PM > >> > > Subject: RE: Imagestream WanIC-520 interface cards > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > The WANic 5xx's use an incompatible chipset and the driver will not > >> > > > work with them. > >> > > > > >> > > > I thnk your supplier is feeding you a line of bullshit. SBS > >> > > Communications > >> > > > has posted no plans whatsover to discontinue or change the > >WANic line. > >> > > > They are fully aware that the 405's have open source drivers and are > >> > > > furthermore used in embedded systems too. > >> > > > > >> > > > The WANic 5xx series of cards sell for more money and so > >naturally your > >> > > > supplier is most interested in maximizing his margin and > >would prefer to > >> > > > push you into a more expensive card. > >> > > > > >> > > > With the increase in CPU power all of the go-fast hardware on the > >> > > higher-level > >> > > > cards is less important. > >> > > > > >> > > > Consider that the Hitachi controller chip used on the WANic > >405 is the > >> > > > SAME chip that Cisco uses in it's 25xx series of routers, > >and the Cisco > >> > > > 2501 is the most used router in the world and has the most installed > >> > > > units. > >> > > > > >> > > > SBS Communications is STILL selling the RISCom series of > >cards which is > >> > > > the predecessor to the WANic, uses the same controller, these are ISA > >> > > cards > >> > > > that have a design that's over 10 years old. > >> > > > > >> > > > You tell your supplier that since the 405 is being "phased > >out" that he > >> > > > should sell you a bunch of them at closeout prices. > >> > > > > >> > > > Ted Mittelstaedt > >> > > tedm@toybox.placo.com > >> > > > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate > >Networker's > >> > > Guide > >> > > > Book website: > >> > > http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >-----Original Message----- > >> > > > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >> > > > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > >MurrayTaylor > >> > > > >Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 4:49 PM > >> > > > >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > >> > > > >Subject: Imagestream WanIC-520 interface cards > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >As the WanIC-405 is being phased out (according to my supplier > >> > > > >down under here in OZ), has any development / testing been > >done on the > >> > > > >apparent replacement, the WanIC-521 (522, 524 ... ) range > >> > > > > > >> > > > >I am especially interested in its compatibility with its predecessor > >> > > > >which I am using very successfully for frame relay under Netgraph. > >> > > > > > >> > > > >I'm trying to get compatability info from the supplier here, > >> > > > >but we are a long way down the food chain ;-( > >> > > > > > >> > > > >Tia > >> > > > > > >> > > > >Murray Taylor > >> > > > >Bytecraft Systems Pty Ltd > >> > > > >murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> > > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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