From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon May 15 4:22:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from knight.cons.org (knight.cons.org [194.233.237.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4842537B5B5 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 04:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cracauer@knight.cons.org) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by knight.cons.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25432; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:21:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:21:47 +0200 From: Martin Cracauer To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Martin Cracauer , Bob Bishop , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Motif goes open source Message-ID: <20000515132147.B24644@cons.org> References: <4.3.1.2.20000515080753.00abfd70@gid.co.uk> <20000515114002.A64473@cons.org> <391FDB25.D7FB808F@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <391FDB25.D7FB808F@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Mon, May 15, 2000 at 08:10:29PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <391FDB25.D7FB808F@newsguy.com>, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Martin Cracauer wrote: > > > > In <4.3.1.2.20000515080753.00abfd70@gid.co.uk>, Bob Bishop wrote: > > > "The Open Group, a vendor and technology-neutral consortium dedicated to > > > enterprise integration, announced today that it is releasing the source > > > code of Motif, using a public license, to the Open Source community." > > > > > > Full details at http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif > > > > The license seems to make it quite useless. > > http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/license/ > > Huh? The license makes it quite useful, IMHO. I already corrected this point. > > "Free for use on Operating Systems that are themself Open Source" > > (note the blank), otherwise with something like a GPL virus, but > > (blank? what blank?) "OpenSource" (without blank) is the term. "Open Source" is like "Free BSD", suit-wearers language showing the unfamilarness with the subject. > > incompatible with the GPL. As it is not an essential system library, > > you may not link GPL programs to it. As the point about FreeBSD is > > That's because GPL is brain-damaged. It is, essentially, incompatible > with anything but GPL. Even the BSD license had to have a clause removed > (and I'm still doubtful if this makes it "compatible" with GPL). I know. http://www.cons.org/cracauer/gpl.html It's an important thing to notice, as no GPL desktop stuff can be built upon it. > > that you can make it non-OpenSource at will, no essential system parts > > of FreeBSD may be linked to it. > > We do have a lot of GPLed code in the system, which cannot be made > non-OpenSource. As I said, I had to correct the point, I was mislead by their term "program" and thought it infected applications using it. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ Tel.: (private) +4940 5221829 Fax.: (private) +4940 5228536 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message