From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Sep 17 16:29:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5B59CE992 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 16:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpaulo@me.com) Received: from mr11p00im-asmtp001.me.com (mr11p00im-asmtp001.me.com [17.110.69.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73FBE11D0 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 16:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpaulo@me.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from akita.hsd1.ca.comcast.net (c-73-162-13-215.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [73.162.13.215]) by mr11p00im-asmtp001.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Mar 31 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0NUT006K0V04S720@mr11p00im-asmtp001.me.com> for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:28:55 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2015-09-17_06:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 kscore.is_bulkscore=5.55111512312578e-17 compositescore=0.981618935876834 phishscore=0 kscore.is_spamscore=0 rbsscore=0.981618935876834 recipient_to_sender_totalscore=0 spamscore=0 urlsuspectscore=0.981618935876834 adultscore=0 kscore.compositescore=0 circleOfTrustscore=0 suspectscore=0 recipient_domain_to_sender_totalscore=0 bulkscore=0 recipient_domain_to_sender_domain_totalscore=0 recipient_to_sender_domain_totalscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1509170218 Message-id: <1442503731.1862.1.camel@me.com> Subject: Re: Intel Haswell support - Any updates? From: Rui Paulo To: Kris Moore , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:28:51 -0700 In-reply-to: <55FADB38.7000406@pcbsd.org> References: <55FA7324.5010603@icloud.com> <09A515F2-44BA-4DF0-9792-D4C56EEB9D7C@FreeBSD.org> <114F22EF-61E3-4D75-84FB-9D6E3FBCB8F3@FreeBSD.org> <20150917131333.GN1247@egr.msu.edu> <20150917134809.GA3025@c720-r276659> <55FAD5EF.5030001@pcbsd.org> <20150917171958.046e4b6b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <55FADB38.7000406@pcbsd.org> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 16:29:01 -0000 On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 11:24 -0400, Kris Moore wrote: > On 09/17/2015 11:19, O. Hartmann wrote: > > Am Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:02:07 -0400 > > Kris Moore schrieb: > > > > > On 09/17/2015 09:48, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > El día Thursday, September 17, 2015 a las 10:41:43PM +0900, > > > > Lundberg, Johannes > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > Same here. I would personally definitely buy new hardware > > > > > from Intel if > > > > > FreeBSD worked on it (not vesa...) > > > > > ... > > > > What dow you have against vesa? I run CURRENT on some Acer C720 > > > > Chromebooks with Haswell chipset in Vesa mode. And you will not > > > > note it. > > > > I have never ever had such a fast desktop (KDE4) before. I can > > > > live fine > > > > with Vesa until Haswell suport is there. > > > > > > > > matthias > > > BTW, have you tried the xf86-video-scfb driver? It works much > > > better > > > than vesa here. The only catch is you have to be booted UEFI with > > > CSM > > > disabled. Using it on my X1 Carbon, gets 3k resolution properly > > > and > > > everything. Thanks to Glen Barber for bringing that to my > > > attention. > > > > > Running that specific driver on several Lenovo HD4600 driven models > > gives me headaches > > and more. This software-framebuffer works - yes, on whatever > > resolution you might wish, > > but it consumes CPU time. That said, I recall that the display was > > jumpy, slow and > > unresponsive when used under heavy load - not even 3k resolution, > > but with a moderate > > lowend of 1980x1080. > > Interesting, that's been the opposite of my experience here. Vesa was > much slower / using more CPU time and didn't give me the native > resolution. Switching to scfb made the laptop "usable" for me, at > least > until we get a proper Intel driver that does Broadwell. I, too, used scfb for 4 months, but I gave up and installed Linux. These are the things that don't work with scfb: 1) brightness control (almost at max when booting) 2) external monitor 3) hardware acceleration. scfb is a working solution in specific cases, but a laptop isn't one of them. -- Rui Paulo