From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Tue Mar 10 15:42:01 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7C02678FA; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 15:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48cK8R4f4zz4cBw; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 15:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id 02AFfpoF065654; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id 02AFfpiY065653; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <202003101541.02AFfpiY065653@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: svn commit: r358821 - in head: . contrib/amd libexec/rc/rc.d release tools/build/mk tools/build/options usr.sbin usr.sbin/amd usr.sbin/newsyslog/newsyslog.conf.d In-Reply-To: <542C3168-5D5D-4C99-970E-4A2CC3FEFC87@cschubert.com> To: Cy Schubert Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:41:51 -0700 (PDT) CC: Ed Maste , src-committers , svn-src-all , svn-src-head Reply-To: rgrimes@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48cK8R4f4zz4cBw X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net has no SPF policy when checking 69.59.192.140) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[rgrimes@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.88)[-0.881,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.49)[-0.492,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dnsmgr.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13868, ipnet:69.59.192.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.03)[ip: (0.13), ipnet: 69.59.192.0/19(0.07), asn: 13868(0.03), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 15:42:02 -0000 > On March 10, 2020 6:42:30 AM PDT, Ed Maste wrote: > >> Sorry for being snippy. It's a bad day here, client-wise, and it's > >spilling > >> over here. > > > >No apology necessary, I'm sorry I didn't coordinate more closely with > >you on the actual svn commit. I had this change in my WIP tree since > >November and just got back to it. Given the elapsed time since we last > >discussed it I ought to have sent a reminder/refreshed the discussion. > > I think a FreeBSD version bump might still be needed. Though ports or other software might simply check for the existence of /usr/sbin/amd instead. > > I should put a deprecation flag into the port though I haven't thought about the expiry date yet. Probably at 12 EOL. Since 13 is not going to include amd that would be ending both the base and port version at the same time, perhaps keep the port to 13.0 EOL to give a slight window when someone upgrades to 13 and finds out amd is gone they can go to the port for a quick but short lived fixed. Perhaps big giant warnings all over the port too that it is about to EOL? -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org