From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed May 8 15:15:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wemm.org (12-232-135-171.client.attbi.com [12.232.135.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AE237B406 for ; Wed, 8 May 2002 15:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by fw.wemm.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g48MF6434801 for ; Wed, 8 May 2002 15:15:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B3F38CC; Wed, 8 May 2002 15:15:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Michael Smith Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: It's not fun anymore. (Mike resigns from core) In-Reply-To: <200205081029.g48AT0Z1013171@mass.dis.org> Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 15:15:06 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020508221506.43B3F38CC@overcee.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Smith wrote: > When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years > ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of > debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many > rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project. > > Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD > project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old > going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the > same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it. > > FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right > way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when > the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was > something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an > endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and > worthwhile. > > It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and > milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. > It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead > the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they > think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole > has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed > with process and mechanics. Amen to that! Well said! Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message