From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Aug 27 16:33:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from fbsd01.granitepost.com (fbsd01.granitepost.com [209.150.104.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E4F37B43C for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thunder (thunder.granitepost.com [209.150.104.140]) by fbsd01.granitepost.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA08794; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 20:17:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Clarence Brown" To: "'Mike Silbersack'" , Subject: RE: 4.1 lockup at isa0: on reboot Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 19:37:35 -0400 Message-ID: <004001c0107f$c7dcc800$8c6896d1@granitepost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Mike Silbersack Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 5:30 PM > > On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Clarence Brown wrote: > > > I just installed 4.1 from CD onto a machine that > > had been running 3.4 without problems. The > > machine is an old Gateway 486 DX/2 66 (Micronics > > Local Bus motherboard) with an upgraded processor, > > DVC Turbo 586 using an AMD AM5x68, and 64 Meg ram. > > > > Problem: If I do a "shutdown -h now" and then press > > any key to reboot, the system ALWAYS hangs after > > displaying the line.. > > > > isa0: on motherboard > > > > This is repeatable, > > I think it's a bug with the board. I recall > working on a Gateway 486/66 a few years ago. > After installing a promise BIOS extender > card, the system was unable to properly warm > boot anymore. (This was running windows 95.) > > The problem could be related somehow. You're > probably best off simply replacing the board. > > Mike "Silby" Silbersack Yeah, I've had the motherboard/machine for quite a while now, and have had to work through a couple of warts to keep using it. As a matter of fact I had a reboot problem with the board which was heat related under windows9x, as well as windows 3.x when I first bought the board. When ambient temperature was above 72 deg F (old brain cells) the machine would not "reboot" soft, hard, warm, it did not matter. I traced the problem to a single custom logic chip on the mother board which I could use a can of "freeze it" on and alleviate the problem. I had them, Gateway, and later Micronics, send me a replacement motherboard, but the results were exactly the same. This is not the same problem. An obvious difference is that during the reboot process the ATI Mach32 VGA board resets and does a characteristic "blink" on the screen with Red Blue and Green color bands during reset. When the earlier heat related problem was evident the reboot froze before this point. NOW the reboot is proceeding through this, and actually starting the reboot process, including reading initial boot code from the hard drive. Another difference is that under FreeBSD 3.4 it did not have this problem. If I/We can track and solve this problem, other 486 owners, like Blaz may be helped. (BTW we've "GOT" to keep these old 486 systems running because I really LOVE it when I get to tell a colleague how well an old 486 of mine with 32 meg of RAM is performing some gritty network task that they just told me their NT based x00MHZ PIII with X-Hundred Meg of RAM can't handle. It makes for a nice comparison!!) Cla. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message