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Date:      Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:54:04 +0100
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Christian Baer <christian.baer@uni-dortmund.de>
Cc:        freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Doesn't anything work around here?
Message-ID:  <472DC0EC.3070904@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <fgkadp$185e$5@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net>
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Christian Baer wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:28:23 +0100 Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
>>                                                                  ^^^^^
>>> Someone is working on FreeBSD/sparc32?
>> FreeBSD does not support 32-bit sparc and it is unlikely it ever will.
> 
> That's why I was a little shocked about the Sun4v. Was that a typo?

No, sun4v is the latest sparc architecture.  It is very much 64 bit ;)

>>> I'm just wondering how two really common apps that have been broken for
>>> quite a while now could just slip through the grid.
>> Few people use sparc64 on their desktop.  That means that if you want to 
>> do that you are running without the benefit of a large testing 
>> community, and you will have to shoulder part of that burden yourself.
> 
> That would be fine with me. So I wasn't complaining about the ports
> themselves being broken or even that noone had noticed Keepassx being
> broken (although that doesn't even build on my machine).
> 
> When I couldn't get Firefox and Thunderbird to run I googled around a bit
> to find a solution. All I found out was that the broken port was known for
> more than a year now. It wasn't a problem that nobody actually fixed it (I
> know the sparc64 community on FreeBSD is still quite small) but that
> nobody had marked the ports as broken. My complaint was actually that just
> about everybody had to find out by themselves that these ports are broken.
> I was annoying enough for me with a U60 with 450MHz CPUs. I wonder how
> long it would have taken someone with a much slower machine to "find out".

It has been broken and fixed many times over history.  That is what I 
meant by "fragile", i.e. when someone fixes it in one version, later 
versions tend to become broken again.

Kris




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