From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 6 17:22:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B1516A420 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 17:22:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djv@mbnet.fi) Received: from gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B8443D8A for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 17:22:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djv@mbnet.fi) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (YGMYD.dsl.saunalahti.fi [85.76.232.1]) by gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6687D3129 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2005 20:22:04 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <43455D3E.5040007@mbnet.fi> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:22:06 +0300 From: Tuomo Latto User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0540-5, 06.10.2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: new FreeBSD-webpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:22:16 -0000 Alexander S. Usov wrote: >>Just pointed firefox to freebsd.org and I was greeted with a new look! ... > And in general, I have already heard from quite a lot of people today that > the old design was quite authentic and recognizable, while the new one > looks as a quite standard portal. Yecch. All ugly and businesslike. This is what you'd expect from all sorts of companies that are all marketing and no information. You'd expect popups from the links on the top (they look like that sort of links), but none seem to appear and I've just wasted time waiting for them to appear. BTW, I pretty much hate popups because they seldom work properly and they always seem kind of sluggish. Only thing that's worse than having to use them is having something that looks like them but is not. A lot of stuff has been removed from plain sight which means more clicking and scrolling and searching and waiting. Oh yes, let's all start burying information.. Having some of the information hidden in plain sight is a nice touch. I mean that release stuff and "shortcuts". The marketing BS filter behind my eyes blocks most of the content on the site pretty well as it is but that release stuff and "shortcuts" seem to have been designed to get filtered out. It actually requires me conscious effort to read them. With Opera, about 40% of the screen space is left unused. I *liked* the quick links the old one had on the sides. Have you tried it with lynx? Lynx Version 2.8.5rel.1 (04 Feb 2004) doesn't seem to handle XML, so when you're in a pinch with your fw/gw machine that doesn't have X installed and you quickly need to access eg. some documentation on the site, you're out of luck. The old one was better. -- Tuomo ... Our bombs are smarter than the average high school student. At least they can find Afghanistan. -- A. Whitney Brown