From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Mar 19 20: 3:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2DC37B7EB; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:03:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gandalf@vilnya.demon.co.uk) Received: from vilnya.demon.co.uk ([158.152.19.238]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12WtPm-000CCN-0C; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:03:39 +0000 Received: from NENYA (nenya.rings [10.2.4.3]) by vilnya.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 336A6D9AD; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:03:22 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <005d01bf9221$4660ac60$0304020a@NENYA> From: "Cameron Grant" To: "Randall Hopper" , "Amancio Hasty" Cc: "Conrad Sabatier" , , References: <200003191838.KAA40955@rah.star-gate.com> <000701bf91d5$4aebeb60$0304020a@NENYA> <001a01bf91c1$7f62a4b0$0304020a@NENYA> <200003191838.KAA40955@rah.star-gate.com> <20000319220453.A65973@ipass.net> Subject: Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 04:03:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Cameron Grant: > |you should be aware that the voxware code will need extensive renovation and > |conversion to newbus. already it will not cope with pnp devices, and the > |compatibility shims it relies on will shortly be gone. > | > |in my opinion it would be far better to divert any effort you would be > |willing to put in towards newpcm. > > That sounds fine in the abstract. But we should be concrete about the > details before we go nixing code. > > - Have we identified exactly what functionality is missing in the new > sound driver but supported by Voxware? to my knowledge, midi is the only functionality missing. also, multiple opens of /dev/dsp are not yet implemented. both will be soon. > - Have we got volunteers with time on their hands signed up to provide > each piece of this functionality with estimated completion dates? > > IMO, the cut-over to PCM should be tied to the last of these completion > dates, revised forward or backward as actual completion dates slip. > > Why would we transition any other way? because various functionality voxware uses is now optional and will be gone in the coming weeks. the kernel does not revolve around sound, and voxware is an acceptable loss. once the isa shims are gone, voxware will not compile without being newbusified which is a task of great magnitude. at this time, the point is moot. unless someone comes forward with a newbusified voxware, it will be removed soon. i, and others, will want to see code, not promises. -cg, not meaning to sound harsh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message