Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 12:32:56 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: Brett Taylor <brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu>, Adam Turoff <aturoff@isinet.com>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bsd vs. linux and NT chart Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.990303122851.22508A-100000@hp9000.chc-chimes.com> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990302163944.00a1e620@localhost>
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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Brett Glass wrote: > Stop right there. Most users don't even know what CVSup is, much > less use it to update source. They don't want a system that > changes every day, nor do they want the overhead of updating > everything constantly. If the users aren't updating their sources/ports, then the new (lack of) support will not alienate them. Either Users want new/updated ports, and they keep their source current. or Users want stability in ports, and keep their trees the same. You can't have it both ways. > >That said I see you maintain no ports at all > > True. I haven't been asked to. Nor would I want to, if the ports system > left users in the cold like that. Whine, whine, bitch, bitch. The ports tree doesn't change on users unless they want it to, and they should understand those consequences. > If it's a problem, it's a problem with the system. Compiling to two > formats should not be THAT difficult. But if it's REALLY such a big > deal for you to compile to anything but ELF, why not create a module that > lets 2.2.x load ELF binaries that use native FreeBSD APIs? It > sounds to me as if this would merely involve adapting the Linux > compatibility module for 2.2.x to do this when it saw a > FreeBSD-branded ELF binary. This module could be brought in as > a dependency in the port, along with any "upgrade kit" that was > required. I'll be waiting for your package to come through the PR system. > A tiny amount of cleverness and innovation can solve these problems. > But nothing that disenfranchises loyal existing users is acceptable, EVER. The existing users aren't the ones being hurt. It's the ones who are moving targets right now. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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