From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 18 09:53:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09201 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:53:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09183 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:53:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20434; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:49:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:49:59 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: ben@rosengart.com cc: Gary Kline , Nik Clayton , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d, and changes to /etc/rc? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Snob Art Genre wrote: > On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Gary Kline wrote: > > > I'm surprised to hear this. I'd say go with it. The > > differences between BSD and the SYSV rc files|directories > > is one of the most significant differences between the two > > models. > > > > Your ideas would be a win-win. > > I agree strongly. Sometimes sending something a signal is not all that > needs to be done to kill it cleanly. A mechanism for glue logic can be > valuable. I have just recently started adminning Solaris, after a > couple of years only using various BSDs, and the start and stop scripts > are one of my favorite features. It seems to me that what we ought to be asking for are the hooks, so those of us that *do* like run-levels *can* have them. I don't think we should force everyone to have such a thing, but wouldn't it be possible to have the run levels *without* requiring those that think they are evil to have to implement a changed startup? I'm asking for a system where the legacy rc is there for those who want it (and would probably be installed by default) but a system of run-levels and rc.d type stuff would be feasible. Such a thing could then even be a port. I think such an approach would short-circuit most of the complaints, and let the idea move forward with coding. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message