From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 00:10:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7741E16A4BF; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 00:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [64.251.88.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DEA43FEC; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 00:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DED8CAE529; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030831071001.DED8CAE529@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-08-10 - 2003-08-30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:10:03 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 01:20:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAB516A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apate.telenet-ops.be (apate.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C9B43FF7 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:20:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n.b@myrealbox.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apate.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 1857C37EAA; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:20:12 +0200 (MEST) Received: from cronos.home.vsb (d5153CAA6.kabel.telenet.be [81.83.202.166]) by apate.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA9537EA5; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:20:11 +0200 (MEST) From: Guy Van Sanden To: Kent Stewart In-Reply-To: <200308301300.49430.kstewart@owt.com> References: <1062259088.2854.10.camel@cronos.home.vsb> <200308300934.32970.kstewart@owt.com> <1062269079.3218.14.camel@cronos.home.vsb> <200308301300.49430.kstewart@owt.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1062318011.7669.1.camel@cronos.home.vsb> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-1tex Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:20:12 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade 5.0 to 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:20:14 -0000 Hi Kent Thanks for your answers! I have one more question, the manual says to drop to single user mode before doing buildworld, do you do this. If I could avoid this, I could run buildworld during the night, and do installworld when it suits me during the daytime. Thank you very much Guy On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 22:00, Kent Stewart wrote: > On Saturday 30 August 2003 11:44 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > Ah, I indeed forgot the system information. > > It is a P II 333 MHZ with 256 of RAM and an UDMA 33 HD (40 GB). > > > > Judging from your timings, this is going to take a while... > > Yes, on a machine with that speed, it will be several hours. > > > > > Does buildworld and installworld always take equally long, even say > > only 10 files changed? > > Buildworld always takes about the same time. The installworld on my > machine runs <4 minutes. Running mergemaster the first time on an > upgrade can take a while. You need to look at /usr/src/UPDATING for > when you need to run it and the options. > > The installs are always fast and only the builds take much time. > > > > > Are there any pitfalls I should be aware of (seeing that this would > > be the first time I attempt such a thing). > > That you have done a full src-all on your cvsup. There are also some > options that help in your /etc/make.conf. From what I saw a little > while ago, the default make.conf is now in the examples directory. > > Don't let mergemaster replace your hosts entries and your user entries > in master.passwd and groups. I edit the password entries manually with > vipw and groups with vi. If you have a special /etc/printcap, it will > try to replace it. Just pay attention is all that is required. You can > save trouble if you back up /etc before you do the installs. > > Kent > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 18:34, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > On Saturday 30 August 2003 08:58 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > > > How would I best upgrade my 5.0 installation to 5.1? > > > > > > > > I have done binary (CD-ROM) updates on 4.x in the past, but I was > > > > thinking this could be done using cvsup. > > > > > > > > Can anyone briefly say wheter this procedure would be right: > > > > - change default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_0 to RELENG_5_1 > > > > - cvsup the new sources > > > > - follow instructions to buildworld+installworld in Chapter 21 of > > > > the handbook. > > > > > > > > Any ideas how long this would take ? > > > > > > It is totally a function of your computer. Since, you didn't > > > provide that information, we can only provide information on our > > > personal systems. > > > > > > I follow current, since I don't think 5.x is up to 4.x release > > > quality at this point. I don't think it is far off, just not quite > > > there. A buildworld, which is the longest part of an upgrade, > > > requires 50+ minutes on my AMD 1600+ with 512 MB of DDR-266 memory > > > and 3 ATA-100 HDs. Having less memory won't affect the build time > > > unless you produce swaping. Having both /usr/src and /usr/obj on > > > the same HD will also increase compile times. > > > > > > The buildkernel probably takes on the order of 10 minutes since it > > > is long enough that I won't sit there to watch and I haven't timed > > > my build script. The installs probably take less than 5 minutes. > > > > > > Kent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 01:39:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF7C16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emerald.incredible.com.na (NSP.inc.net.na [196.44.138.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4195243F75 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:39:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schalk@home.incredible.com.na) Received: from [10.222.101.2] (helo=Fujitsu) by emerald.incredible.com.na with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19tNk2-000F7X-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:39:22 +0100 From: "Schalk Erasmus" To: "Freebsd-Questions@Freebsd.Org" Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:39:41 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: High Subject: Updating PORTS tree (cvsup not found) - Can't MAKE install CVSUP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:39:38 -0000 Hi, Could anyone assist me with what exactly could cause this problem: >> Patch patch-aa failed to apply cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ezm3. *** Error code 1 HERE IS THE RESULTS OF THE MAKE INSTALL PROCESS mail# make install >> cvsup-snap-16.1g.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.polytechnic.edu.na/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. Receiving cvsup-snap-16.1g.tar.gz (430151 bytes): 100% 430151 bytes transferred in 7.7 seconds (54.75 kBps) ===> Extracting for cvsup-without-gui-16.1g >> Checksum OK for cvsup-snap-16.1g.tar.gz. ===> Patching for cvsup-without-gui-16.1g ===> Configuring for cvsup-without-gui-16.1g ===> cvsup-without-gui-16.1g depends on file: /usr/local/lib/m3/pkg/tcp/FreeBS D4/libm3tcp.a - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/m3/pkg/tcp/FreeBSD4/libm3tcp.a in / usr/ports/lang/ezm3 >> ezm3-1.0-FreeBSD4-boot.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/ ezm3. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.polytechnic.edu.na/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ezm3/. Receiving ezm3-1.0-FreeBSD4-boot.tar.bz2 (1319389 bytes): 100% 1319389 bytes transferred in 22.5 seconds (57.24 kBps) >> ezm3-1.0-src.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/ezm3. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.polytechnic.edu.na/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/ezm3/. Receiving ezm3-1.0-src.tar.bz2 (6128550 bytes): 100% (ETA 00:00) 6128550 bytes transferred in 105.6 seconds (56.67 kBps) ===> Extracting for ezm3-1.0 >> Checksum OK for ezm3/ezm3-1.0-FreeBSD4-boot.tar.bz2. >> Checksum OK for ezm3/ezm3-1.0-src.tar.bz2. ===> Patching for ezm3-1.0 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for ezm3-1.0 ===> Configuring for ezm3-1.0 ===> ezm3-1.0 depends on executable: gmake - not found ===> Verifying install for gmake in /usr/ports/devel/gmake ===> Patching for gmake-3.80 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for gmake-3.80 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to Makefile.in.rej >> Patch patch-aa failed to apply cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ezm3. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/cvsup. Kind Regards Schalk Erasmus Incredible Networks http://www.incredible.com.na From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 01:51:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E127216A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h76n3fls20o913.bredband.comhem.se [213.67.148.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93FC543FAF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 01:51:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: (qmail 40785 invoked by uid 1001); 31 Aug 2003 08:50:59 -0000 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:50:59 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Guy Van Sanden Message-ID: <20030831085059.GA27051@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Guy Van Sanden , Kent Stewart , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1062259088.2854.10.camel@cronos.home.vsb> <200308300934.32970.kstewart@owt.com> <1062269079.3218.14.camel@cronos.home.vsb> <200308301300.49430.kstewart@owt.com> <1062318011.7669.1.camel@cronos.home.vsb> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1062318011.7669.1.camel@cronos.home.vsb> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade 5.0 to 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:51:04 -0000 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 10:20:12AM +0200, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > Hi Kent > > Thanks for your answers! > I have one more question, the manual says to drop to single user mode > before doing buildworld, do you do this. > If I could avoid this, I could run buildworld during the night, and do > installworld when it suits me during the daytime. There is absolutely no need to go to single user mode before a buildworld/buildkernel. Never has been necessary either, AFAIK. Read the manual a bit more carefully and I think you will find out that it agrees with me. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 02:27:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA44916A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE88043FB1 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:27:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hhasenbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19tOUt-0004ht-03; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:27:47 +0200 Received: from techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (JT20U2ZJrerc0saDwbWnLDz7NALtqXd7Rnl+STsIaKvSeR5ZHFhIED@[80.130.183.141]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19tOUr-1NuxQu0; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:27:45 +0200 Message-ID: <3F51BF8F.1090706@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:27:43 +0200 From: Hendrik Hasenbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: de, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Batie References: <20030828212015.GC32069@agora.rdrop.com> <20030830213526.GA76426@agora.rdrop.com> In-Reply-To: <20030830213526.GA76426@agora.rdrop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Seen: false X-ID: JT20U2ZJrerc0saDwbWnLDz7NALtqXd7Rnl+STsIaKvSeR5ZHFhIED@t-dialin.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usbdevs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:27:57 -0000 Alan Batie wrote: > OK, I got a D-Link USB 2 pci card, and now the devices get seen at > boot up, though it still thinks it's uhci instead of ohci; I don't know > what's what, but thought uhci was 1.1 and ohci was 2.0: No, UHCI and OHCI are both USB 1.1. USB 2.0 host controllers are calles EHCI. EHCI can double as UHCI or OHCI for campatibility. OHCI = Open Host Controller Interface (USB 1.x) UHCI = Universal Host Controller Interface (USB 1.x) EHCI = Enhanced Host Controller Interface (USB 2.0) Hendrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 02:40:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350D016A4DC for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsl-mail.kamp.net (mail.kamp-dsl.de [195.62.99.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2105543FE1 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: (qmail 10478 invoked by uid 505); 31 Aug 2003 09:40:54 -0000 Received: from root@pukruppa.de by dsl-mail by uid 502 with qmail-scanner-1.14 (spamassassin: 2.43. Clear:. Processed in 0.164305 secs); 31 Aug 2003 09:40:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reverse-213-146-114-24.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) (213.146.114.24) by dsl-mail.kamp.net with SMTP; 31 Aug 2003 09:40:54 -0000 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:45:37 +0200 (CEST) From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa " X-X-Sender: root@pukruppa.net To: Cesar Diaz In-Reply-To: <20030830162626.98556.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030831113953.X29937@pukruppa.net> References: <20030830162626.98556.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where to go next X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:40:55 -0000 On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Cesar Diaz wrote: > > I'm a Windows system administrator trying to learn FreeBSD. I > have installed 5.0 on a few machine in my home lab and have the > FreeBSD complete reference. > > My question is, what next? What kind of things, applications > etc should I do to get more familiar with the OS? My goal is > to use OS for system and security administration. You could take some old machines and try to set up some small useful things: - a squid-proxy - a samba/cups printer server p.ex. People at work will see, that freebsd is useful, stable (and cheap), and you will (have to) learn a lot. One day you might substitute your PDC by a freebsd/samba machine. Regards, Uli. > > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > +---------------------------+ | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | | Wuppertal | | Germany | +---------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 02:51:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E735816A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com (mailout07.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AC143FE3 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hhasenbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19tOry-00034k-04; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:51:38 +0200 Received: from techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Tzg-JeZZ8ez29YDgbRp05xcYV5vT6gkDp2rdkHB0md8R0kgYhaIsZ9@[80.130.183.141]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19tOrj-0ckFFo0; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:51:23 +0200 Message-ID: <3F51C519.30408@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:51:21 +0200 From: Hendrik Hasenbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: de, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesse Sheidlower References: <20030831051348.GA10168@panix.com> <20030831052441.GF7020@dan.emsphone.com> <20030831053731.GA12021@panix.com> In-Reply-To: <20030831053731.GA12021@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Seen: false X-ID: Tzg-JeZZ8ez29YDgbRp05xcYV5vT6gkDp2rdkHB0md8R0kgYhaIsZ9@t-dialin.net cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: xterm setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:51:46 -0000 Jesse Sheidlower wrote: >>>I recently upgraded my desktop to Gnome2, and of the various things >>>that are causing me grief, the biggest is what's happened to my xterm >>>windows. Now, after the change, it does three things differently and >>>annoyingly: (1) it defaults to black/colored text on a white >>>background; (2) it doesn't have a scrollbar of any sort; and (3) >>>there's no menubar with basic "File"/"Edit" etc. options. Sounds like the gnome terminal or eterm. The standard xterm doesn't give you a menubar. >>>I can somewhat get around (1) by launching it with "xterm -r", >>>although while this does display white/colored on black, it also >>>makes other menus (e.g. those launched with ctrl-[mouse buttons]) >>>look incomplete. You can set up .Xresources to change the behaviour of all xterms: XTerm*reverseVideo: true XTerm*ScrollBar: off XTerm*SaveLines: 300 >>>But (2) is the worst; I really need to have >>>scrollbars with this. I see that there's a toggleable option to >>>"Enable Scrollbar" that I get to with ctrl-Mouse2, but this isn't a >>>regular scrollbar that I can click up and down on, with a moveable >>>thumb, etc., as I used to have before the upgrade and as the >>>gnome-terminal has now. Also: XTerm*ScrollBar: off XTerm*SaveLines: 300 and 'xterm -sb' > Hmm. I certainly thought I was using xterm, as I recall setting > up the icon to launch xterm, and my .bashrc is setting TERM > to xterm-color rather than gnome-terminal or anything else. TERM states the capabilities of the terminal. Since most terminals implements the same feature set for input as xterm does, they use the same entry in termcap. > Is it possible that the functional scrollbars, etc., were an addition > of the window manager, and if so is there any way to replicate it now? Use eterm or any other clone. Hendrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 03:17:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C81916A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 03:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.kjkoster.org (213-84-106-195.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.106.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5084A43FBD for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 03:17:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kjkoster@kjkoster.org) Received: from kjkoster.org (LikeEver [192.168.0.1]) by www.kjkoster.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7VAH3W1010072; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:17:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kjkoster@kjkoster.org) Sender: kjkoster@www.kjkoster.org Message-ID: <3F51CB1F.D8EA552B@kjkoster.org> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:17:03 +0200 From: Kees Jan Koster X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions List , avleeuwen@piwebs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: kjkoster@kjkoster.org Subject: Opera 7b4 does not render frames properly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:17:07 -0000 Dear All, I am using Opera 7 beta 4, from the ports. I access Java's API site quite a bit, but Opera craps out after a few visits. After starting Opera I surf to http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/. I then browse around a bit and after a while I return to the API page. I can still see the frame outlines, but the pages are grey. I witnessed this behaviour on my laptop and my desktop machine (Opera 7, FreeBSD 4.9-prerelease). All my ports are up to date as of today. The Opera knowledge base site is so confusing that I cannot even search properly. I cannot tell if Opera 7b7 is going to fix this issue or not. Is there anyone running b4 that can confirm/deny my story? Is there anyone running b7 that can tell me if they are seeing the same behaviour? Please keep me CC'd as I am not on the list. Yours, Kees Jan --------------------------------------------------------------- Kees Jan Koster e-mail: kjkoster "at" kjkoster.org www: http://www.kjkoster.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------- Life is uncertain; eat dessert first. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 03:31:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9670016A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 03:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thuis.piwebs.com (217-19-20-186.dsl.cambrium.nl [217.19.20.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCC5D43FE0 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 03:31:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from avleeuwen@piwebs.com) Received: (qmail 19283 invoked by uid 85); 31 Aug 2003 10:31:32 -0000 Received: from avleeuwen@piwebs.com by thuis.piwebs.com by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.20rc1 (uvscan: v4.2.40/v4288. Clear:RC:1:. Processed in 0.064021 secs); 31 Aug 2003 10:31:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 192.168.0.109) (192.168.0.109) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Aug 2003 10:31:32 -0000 From: Arjan van Leeuwen To: Kees Jan Koster , FreeBSD Questions List Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:31:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <3F51CB1F.D8EA552B@kjkoster.org> In-Reply-To: <3F51CB1F.D8EA552B@kjkoster.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308311231.01751.avleeuwen@piwebs.com> cc: kjkoster@kjkoster.org Subject: Re: Opera 7b4 does not render frames properly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:31:05 -0000 On Sunday 31 August 2003 12:17, Kees Jan Koster wrote: > Dear All, > > I am using Opera 7 beta 4, from the ports. I access Java's API site > quite a bit, but Opera craps out after a few visits. > > After starting Opera I surf to http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/. I > then browse around a bit and after a while I return to the API page. I > can still see the frame outlines, but the pages are grey. > > I witnessed this behaviour on my laptop and my desktop machine (Opera 7, > FreeBSD 4.9-prerelease). All my ports are up to date as of today. > > The Opera knowledge base site is so confusing that I cannot even search > properly. I cannot tell if Opera 7b7 is going to fix this issue or not. > Is there anyone running b4 that can confirm/deny my story? Is there > anyone running b7 that can tell me if they are seeing the same > behaviour? > > Please keep me CC'd as I am not on the list. Hi Kees Jan, This is a known bug in B4, it has problems with frame pages. You'll see the same behavior on Google Groups, for example. All betas after B4 don't have this problem. The updated port for B7 is in PR ports/56181 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56181), but so far I haven't found a committer to commit it. Best regards, Arjan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 04:27:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C49E16A4C1 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spam1.snu.ac.kr (spam2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.10.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7564843FD7 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lahaye@snu.ac.kr) Received: (snipe 20947 invoked by alias); 31 Aug 2003 11:51:29 -0000 Received: from lahaye@snu.ac.kr with Spamsniper2.0 (Processed in 0.012216 secs); Received: from unknown (HELO sis1.snu.ac.kr) (147.46.10.36) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Aug 2003 11:51:29 -0000 X-RCPTTO: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Received: from snu.ac.kr ([147.46.44.183]) by sis1.snu.ac.kr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7VBQQSZ303810 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:26:27 +0900 Message-ID: <3F51DB88.4030009@snu.ac.kr> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:27:04 +0900 From: Rob Lahaye Organization: Seoul National University - South Korea User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030726 X-Accept-Language: en-us, ko-kr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Mail notificator (iconized) for checking remote pop server ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:27:05 -0000 Hi, All my email arrives at a remote machine (RH 7.2 Linux box), from which I pop this email to my own FreeBSD PC. I'm searching a small application that notifies me by checking every few minutes the remote pop server for new mail. And it should do that while iconized (to get rid of all the window-manager's decoration around the window). My present solution does that, but is far too bulky for this purpose, since it needs full Netscape communicator running: Netscape communicator ("netscape -mail") is running on my own PC and iconized. It pops the remote mail server every 10 minutes. Note that Netscape communicator is the only application, as far as I, that changes its appearance on new email, when iconized! Is there another, much smaller, application that does this too? (The archaic xbiff, for example, does neither change its appearance when iconized, nor can check a remote pop server). Thanks, Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 04:40:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AFC16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC8443FEC for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:40:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 4.22 #5 (FreeBSD)) id 19tQZl-000DAO-1q for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:40:57 +0300 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:40:57 +0300 From: ODHIAMBO Washington To: FBSD-Q Message-ID: <20030831114057.GA49452@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: ODHIAMBO Washington , FBSD-Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Fortune: Dealing with failure is easy: work hard to improve. Success is also easy to handle: you've solved the wrong problem. Work hard to improve. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 X-Best-Window-Manager: Blackbox X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.4i (2003-03-19) X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 2:39PM up 16 days, 18:49, 2 users, load averages: 0.05, 0.15, 0.17 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: 5.1-REL won't buildworld - fresh cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:40:52 -0000 Hello all, I'm wondering if anyone else is having the same problem as mine here... For the last 3 days, I have cvsupped and wouldn't ever succeed with `make buildworld`. What could the problem be? Below are snippets from the fail: Once I do, `make buildworld` I see the following at the top of the output: Running test variables PASS: Test variables detected no regression, output matches. Running test targets PASS: Test targets detected no regression. Running test sysvmatch PASS: Test sysvmatch detected no regression. Running test lhs_expn FAIL: Test failed: regression detected. See above. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/tools/regression/usr.bin/make. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/tools/regression/usr.bin/make. -------------------------------------------------------------- Building an up-to-date make(1) -------------------------------------------------------------- sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 make /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386 -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- ... ........then it runs and later fails with cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/../libc/include -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/threa d -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/../../include -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/arch/i386/include -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/sys -I/usr/src/lib /libpthread/../../libexec/rtld-elf -fno-builtin -D_LOCK_DEBUG -D_PTHREADS_INVARIANTS -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/../libc/i386 -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread -c /usr/src/lib/libpthread/arch/i386/i386/thr_enter_uts.S -o thr_enter_uts.So cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/../libc/include -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/threa d -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/../../include -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/arch/i386/include -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/sys -I/usr/src/lib /libpthread/../../libexec/rtld-elf -fno-builtin -D_LOCK_DEBUG -D_PTHREADS_INVARIANTS -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/../libc/i386 -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread -c /usr/src/lib/libpthread/arch/i386/i386/thr_getcontext.S -o thr_getcontext.So cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/../libc/include -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/threa d -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/../../include -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/arch/i386/include -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/sys -I/usr/src/lib /libpthread/../../libexec/rtld-elf -fno-builtin -D_LOCK_DEBUG -D_PTHREADS_INVARIANTS -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/../libc/i386 -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread -c /usr/src/lib/libpthread/arch/i386/i386/thr_switch.S -o thr_switch.So cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/../libc/include -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/threa d -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/../../include -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/arch/i386/include -I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/sys -I/usr/src/lib /libpthread/../../libexec/rtld-elf -fno-builtin -D_LOCK_DEBUG -D_PTHREADS_INVARIANTS -Wall -c /usr/src/lib/libpthread/sys/lock.c - o lock.So building shared library libkse.so.1 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libpthread. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I have done cd /usr/src make clean make cleandir rm -rf /usr/obj/usr cvsup But that doesn't seem to do the trick. -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington "The box said 'Requires Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com Windows 95, NT, or better,' Tel: +254 2 313985-9 +254 2 313922 so I installed FreeBSD." GSM: +254 72 743223 +254 733 744121 This sig is McQ! :-) You're never too old to become younger. -- Mae West From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 04:43:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A7C16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.kjkoster.org (213-84-106-195.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.106.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C21E43FB1 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:43:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kjkoster@kjkoster.org) Received: from kjkoster.org (LikeEver [192.168.0.1]) by www.kjkoster.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7VBhsW1010174; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:43:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kjkoster@kjkoster.org) Sender: kjkoster@www.kjkoster.org Message-ID: <3F51DF7A.6487047E@kjkoster.org> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:43:54 +0200 From: Kees Jan Koster X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arjan van Leeuwen References: <3F51CB1F.D8EA552B@kjkoster.org> <200308311231.01751.avleeuwen@piwebs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: kjkoster@kjkoster.org cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Opera 7b4 does not render frames properly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:43:57 -0000 Dear Arjan, > > > After starting Opera I surf to http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/. I > > then browse around a bit and after a while I return to the API page. I > > can still see the frame outlines, but the pages are grey. > > This is a known bug in B4, it has problems with frame pages. You'll see the > same behavior on Google Groups, for example. All betas after B4 don't have > this problem. > > The updated port for B7 is in PR ports/56181 > (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=56181), but so far I haven't > found a committer to commit it. > I have tried the patch. The Makefile part does not seem to apply cleanly becuase of the CVS $FreeBSD$ header. Perhaps that should not be part of the patch. Other than that it works fine. The new version of the port does indeed fix the problem that I was seeing. Thank you for the prompt response. Yours, Kees Jan --------------------------------------------------------------- Kees Jan Koster e-mail: kjkoster "at" kjkoster.org www: http://www.kjkoster.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------- Life is uncertain; eat dessert first. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 05:39:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9142516A4C0 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 05:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com (mailout07.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7731543F93 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 05:39:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alexander.Farber@t-online.de) Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19tRUg-00044p-01; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:39:46 +0200 Received: from pref.my.domain (rfVW9eZ1QedWFtCicN8RaR+95Lax78uvSs7eAGZog+5-5ZY3s0q9on@[217.82.221.201]) by fwd11.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19tRUQ-0FJEpM0; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:39:30 +0200 Received: from pref.my.domain (alex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pref.my.domain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7VCZKsI030733 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:35:21 GMT Received: (from alex@localhost) by pref.my.domain (8.12.8/8.12.9/Submit) id h7VCZHVc019042; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:35:17 GMT Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:35:16 +0000 From: Alexander.Farber@t-online.de (Alexander Farber) To: Todd Stephens Message-ID: <20030831123515.GA14340@pref.my.domain> References: <200308302332.50368.tbstep@tampabay.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200308302332.50368.tbstep@tampabay.rr.com> X-Url: X-Operating-System: OpenBSD 3.3 i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Seen: false X-ID: rfVW9eZ1QedWFtCicN8RaR+95Lax78uvSs7eAGZog+5-5ZY3s0q9on cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get CUPS to work (newbie) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:39:49 -0000 Is the reason maybe, that you missed to execute these commands: newhope:alex {646} pkg_info -D cups-base-1.1.18.0_5 Information for cups-base-1.1.18.0_5: Install notice: ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** NOTE FOR PACKAGE USERS ONLY: ============================ This package does not create the spool directory, due to limitations in the packaging mechanism, or my knowledge of it. Once the package is installed, please do the following (as root): cd /var/spool mkdir -p cups/tmp chown -R root:daemon cups On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:32:50PM -0400, Todd Stephens wrote: > I have CUPS installed on my 4.8 system. I cannot seem to configure it, > though. I have tried the web interface at localhost:631, but it seems > that the cupsd.conf file was not created. Well, then I tried to create > this using the print server configuration in KDE and I keep getting > permission denied errors when I try to write the cupsd.conf file > (running this as root, btw). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 06:13:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D5E16A4C0; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 06:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.tiscali.de (relay1.tiscali.de [62.26.116.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97A443FE5; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 06:13:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from walter@pelissero.de) Received: from daemon.home.loc (62.246.38.181) by webmail.tiscali.de (6.7.019) id 3F2FA20100793953; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:13:41 +0200 Received: from hyde.home.loc (hyde.home.loc [10.0.0.2]) by daemon.home.loc (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7VDD2jl000688; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:13:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp@hyde.home.loc) Received: from hyde.home.loc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hyde.home.loc (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7VDCuZf000710; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:12:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp@hyde.home.loc) Received: (from wcp@localhost) by hyde.home.loc (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h7VDCSQR000704; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:12:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp) From: "Walter C. Pelissero" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16209.62524.183726.612751@hyde.home.loc> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:12:28 +0200 To: Bruce M Simpson In-Reply-To: <20030830120438.GA29217@spc.org> References: <16208.36799.970894.848331@hyde.home.loc> <20030830120438.GA29217@spc.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.16 under Emacs 21.3.50.2 X-Attribution: WP cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB -> PS/2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: walter@pelissero.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:13:44 -0000 Ok, today I spent some time deciphering the ums log and came up with this patch. --- /sys/dev/usb/ums.c Wed Nov 6 21:23:50 2002 +++ ums.c Sun Aug 31 15:08:52 2003 @@ -428,10 +428,8 @@ } ibuf = sc->sc_ibuf; - if (sc->sc_iid) { - if (*ibuf++ != sc->sc_iid) - return; - } + if (sc->sc_iid) + ibuf++; dx = hid_get_data(ibuf, &sc->sc_loc_x); dy = -hid_get_data(ibuf, &sc->sc_loc_y); Unfortunately my knowledge (or rather lack of it) of the USB/UMS driver doesn't give me very much confidence that I didn't break something else. What was that conditional return suposed to protect from? Is it safe to remove it? The PS/2 mouse works now and the USB one as well. Cheers, -- walter pelissero http://www.pelissero.de Bruce M Simpson writes: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 01:51:27PM +0200, Walter C. Pelissero wrote: > > I just bought a USB -> PS/2 keyboard and mouse converter for my > > laptop. It's a Sitecom brand and it gets recognised as MCT Corp. > > I had similar problems with a Tangtop USB->PS/2 k+m adapter. > > In the end it turned out that this device was causing uhci to report > an error, even though the movement data coming in looked fine. I never > got round to fixing it. > > Perhaps you could try throwing all the debug switches on in the usb drivers > and usbd and seeing if you get similar behaviour? > > Thanks for the patch, this was the other thing that needed fixing! > > BMS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 07:04:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA00A16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp7.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP7.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.10.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1BE43FE3 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:04:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abender@andrew.cmu.edu) Received: from UNIX44.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX44.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.13.174]) (user=abender mech=GSSAPI (0 bits))h7VE4DDf029055; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:04:13 -0400 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:04:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Bender To: Adam McLaurin In-Reply-To: <1062276257.23730.91.camel@jake> Message-ID: References: <1062276257.23730.91.camel@jake> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:04:15 -0000 On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Adam McLaurin wrote: > On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 15:55, Adam Bender wrote: > > OK, sorry to deluge the list with questions, but now I've having serious > > problems compiling ports. > > What version of XFree86 are you running? > XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 Thanks, Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 07:16:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C5716A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052D143FE5 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaron@finch.st) Received: from anj20dky2854.ab.hsia.telus.net ([198.53.91.228]) by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.netESMTP <20030831141637.GAXG10012.priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net@anj20dky2854.ab.hsia.telus.net> for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:16:37 -0600 From: Aaron Dalton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:16:29 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308310816.29305.aaron@finch.st> Subject: /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lXfont X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:16:39 -0000 Please excuse my ignorance. I cvsup'd my ports tree and used portupgrade to upgrade everything but I can't get XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0 or Clients to install due to the following error after making: making all in programs/bdftopcf... rm -f bdftopcf cc -o bdftopcf -O -pipe -ansi -Dasm=__asm -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wundef -L/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/exports/lib bdftopcf.o -lXfont -lfntstubs -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lz -lm -Wl,-rpath,/usr/X11R6/lib /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lXfont *** Error code 1 and for the FontServer: ar clq libdifs.a main.o dispatch.o extensions.o globals.o events.o tables.o fontinfo.o charinfo.o swapreq.o swaprep.o resource.o fonts.o difsutils.o cache.o initfonts.o atom.o ranlib libdifs.a LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer/work/xc/exports/lib cc -o xfs -O -pipe -ansi -Dasm=__asm -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wundef -L/usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer/work/xc/exports/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib difs/libdifs.a difs/libdifs.a os/libos.a -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer/work/xc/exports/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXfont -lfntstubs -lm -lz -Wl,-rpath,/usr/X11R6/lib /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lXfont *** Error code 1 Where is this library "Xfont" supposed to be? Thank you so much for your time. Cheers! -- Aaron Dalton aaron@finch.st http://aaron.finch.st From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 07:39:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C489916A4DB for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D888C43F3F for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:39:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbstep@tampabay.rr.com) Received: from 2416462hfc204.tampabay.rr.com (2416462hfc204.tampabay.rr.com [24.164.62.204])h7VEdgS6007587; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Stephens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:35:21 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200308302332.50368.tbstep@tampabay.rr.com> <20030831123515.GA14340@pref.my.domain> In-Reply-To: <20030831123515.GA14340@pref.my.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308311035.21864.tbstep@tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Re: How to get CUPS to work (newbie) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:39:44 -0000 On Sunday 31 August 2003 08:35 am, Alexander Farber wrote: > Is the reason maybe, that you missed to execute these commands: > > newhope:alex {646} pkg_info -D cups-base-1.1.18.0_5 > Information for cups-base-1.1.18.0_5: Ahh. It was actually 1.1.19 that I installed, but my fault for not stating so. I am not sure if it was installed from ports or packages as I did it via "portupgrade -NP cups", and then I walked away for a while. I did have to create those directories manually (from your advice), so maybe that had something to do with it. I am going to try to work on it some more today and will reply to the list if it works. Thank you for your assistance. -- Todd Stephens From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 07:44:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66E816A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-29.ig.com.br (smtp-29.ig.com.br [200.226.132.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11A1543FBD for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hlen@ig.com.br) Received: (qmail 6943 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2003 14:44:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO RJ141081235.user.veloxzone.com.br) (200.141.81.235) by smtp-29.ig.com.br with SMTP; 31 Aug 2003 14:44:59 -0000 From: Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1062341093.1280.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-3) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:44:53 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: hlen@ig.com.br Subject: Re: find -type not working on release 5.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:44:58 -0000 Joshua Oreman wrote: > Make sure you really are typing "find /etc -type d", with the -type after > the /etc. Something like this: "find -type d /etc", would return those > errors. > I think I was actually using "find -type d" alone, which works on redhat.. Got to use "find . -type d" here. > >]$ ls x* > > > > doesn't seem to work right either.. it's >returning all the > files..? g* > >works though.. > > > I don't know what you mean by "works"/"doesn't work". Could you > elaborate a little here? Well, I'm used to redhat bash, and even though this is bash, on redhat "ls x* -d" is good syntax; on freebsd it isn't. So that was it.. got what I wanted with "ls -d x*". :) Thanks -- Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 07:51:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C763A16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D34143FEC for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:51:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blueeskimo@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 8826 invoked by uid 65534); 31 Aug 2003 14:51:34 -0000 Received: from dsl-cust-145.openweb.ca (EHLO [64.39.186.145]) (64.39.186.145) by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 31 Aug 2003 16:51:34 +0200 From: Adam McLaurin To: Adam Bender In-Reply-To: References: <1062276257.23730.91.camel@jake> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Rhytxzd098VctwtmU3jw" Message-Id: <1062341491.33762.7.camel@jake> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:51:31 -0400 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:51:36 -0000 --=-Rhytxzd098VctwtmU3jw Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 10:04, Adam Bender wrote: > XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 There's your problem. Portupgrade to 4.3.x and try Xft and xscreensaver again. --=20 Adam McLaurin --=-Rhytxzd098VctwtmU3jw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA/Ugtzt+DSc2Q4lGYRAgGyAKC/DOQqwpKZx/3lcIMecC6SrV4FEACgrvKo Vgp9cyLcLOC6nvZNQ7FtZ2g= =BOpP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Rhytxzd098VctwtmU3jw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 08:00:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B1016A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i-194-106-56-146.freedom2surf.net (i-194-106-56-146.freedom2surf.net [194.106.56.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC88643FFD for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:00:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from www@server0054.freedom2surf.net) Received: from www by i-194-106-56-146.freedom2surf.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19tTgi-0003jm-00 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:00:20 +0000 Received: from 213.48.62.51 ( [213.48.62.51]) as user freebsd@drseuk.f2s.com@ by webmail.freedom2surf.net with HTTP; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:00:20 +0000 Message-ID: <1062342020.3f520d845d826@webmail.freedom2surf.net> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:00:20 +0000 From: freebsd@drseuk.f2s.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.7-cvs X-Originating-IP: 213.48.62.51 Sender: Subject: Mozilla bug #40931 causing crashes under 4.8-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:00:40 -0000 Hi, I can't get mozilla-1.4,2 or mozilla-gtk2-1.4 to work without crashing after a few pages. It looks like the mozilla bug responsible is #40931. Someone has posted a patch there to gdkwindow.c - how can I work out if this patch has been applied to the gtk-2.2.2 port? All dependent packages are up to date with the ports btw. Cheers. -- Dr Seuk ------------------------------------------------- Everyone should have http://www.freedom2surf.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 08:31:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BEB16A4EF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC31B43FCB for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akruijff@www.kruijff.org) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HKH002YRPWDL5@smtp04.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:33:50 +0200 (MEST) Received: from Intranet.lan (akruijff@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h7VFVhRO092939;akruijff@Intranet.lan) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Intranet.lan (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h7VFVglX092938; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:31:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:31:41 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: To: Adam Bender Message-id: <20030831153141.GC94087@dds.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i References: cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libintl.so.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:31:50 -0000 On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 02:55:38PM -0400, Adam Bender wrote: > > I'm trying to install some new ports, and I'm getting a lot of errors of > the type: > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.2" not found > > I recently upgraded gettext to version 0.12.1, which I think it part of > the cause. I now have only libintl.so.5 on my system. How can I resolve > these errors? Why is it not recognizing libintl.so.5? One of you applications is tying to use libintl.so.2. This can be fixed by recompiling this application. You can use the command 'nice portupgrade -f application' or 'nice portupgrade -fa' if you don't know which application is the cause for this error. > > Thanks, > > Adam > > P.S. I ran `make install` in /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade, and it > seemed to install fine, but `portupgrade` is not a command on my system. > How do I use it? You did this right afther running make? Run rehash and try again. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 08:51:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BBB16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E405944003 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:51:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blueeskimo@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 24894 invoked by uid 65534); 31 Aug 2003 15:51:33 -0000 Received: from dsl-cust-145.openweb.ca (EHLO [64.39.186.145]) (64.39.186.145) by mail.gmx.net (mp013) with SMTP; 31 Aug 2003 17:51:33 +0200 From: Adam McLaurin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-8D7UGLV10ilGhL+8q3z4" Message-Id: <1062345091.33762.12.camel@jake> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:51:31 -0400 Subject: Accessing http://netbsd.org from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:51:36 -0000 --=-8D7UGLV10ilGhL+8q3z4 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since I've started using FreeBSD a year ago, I've never been able to get on the NetBSD website. I am pretty convinced that this has something to do with IPv6, but I don't really know how to prove it, or what to do about it. -$ telnet www.netbsd.org 80 Trying 2001:4f8:4:7:290:27ff:feab:19a7... telnet: connect to address 2001:4f8:4:7:290:27ff:feab:19a7: No route to host Trying 204.152.184.116... Connected to www.netbsd.org. I've tried Mozilla, Konqueror, and Elinks, and none of them will log in. Surely someone has discovered this problem before and found a solution, but Google isn't serving me well on this issue. Anyone care to enlighten me? If it matters, I'm running 5.1-R-p2 with ipf+ipnat. --=20 Adam McLaurin P.S. If this is more appropriate for the Net mailing list, just let me know and I'll take it there instead. --=-8D7UGLV10ilGhL+8q3z4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA/UhmDt+DSc2Q4lGYRAqg+AJ9QDr68FpcDmXsPhOsVb5JlcZ0pFgCfWjAv q1Y0azRu7WS+a36qXry8uiE= =Kw0s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-8D7UGLV10ilGhL+8q3z4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 09:03:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F7716A4C3 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319AE43FF3 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:02:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akruijff@www.kruijff.org) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HKH003EYR6CO4@smtp03.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:01:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: from Intranet.lan (akruijff@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h7VG2MRO093104;akruijff@Intranet.lan) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Intranet.lan (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h7VG2MJB093103; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:02:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:02:22 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <20030830162626.98556.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> To: Cesar Diaz Message-id: <20030831160222.GE94087@dds.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030830084147.03bf5760@209.112.4.2> <20030830162626.98556.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where to go next X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:03:12 -0000 On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 09:26:26AM -0700, Cesar Diaz wrote: > > I'm a Windows system administrator trying to learn FreeBSD. I have installed 5.0 on a few machine in my home lab and have the FreeBSD complete reference. > > My question is, what next? What kind of things, applications etc should I do to get more familiar with the OS? My goal is to use OS for system and security administration. > > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > First of all: Please a new question by creating a enterly fresh mail (i.e. not replying to another mail). This has te benefid of starting a new tread and thus attract more ppl to you question. There are two basic URL a newbie sould read. - http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ - http://www.lemis.com/questions.html/ Since you have 5.0 I suggest you first task would be upgrade your computer to 5.1. You can read everything you need to now here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 09:11:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F1E16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180C143FFB for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akruijff@www.kruijff.org) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HKH0048IRLC2S@smtp03.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:10:25 +0200 (MEST) Received: from Intranet.lan (akruijff@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h7VGBMRO093174;akruijff@Intranet.lan) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Intranet.lan (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h7VGBKfQ093173; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:11:20 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <16206.31570.910005.394248@jerusalem.litteratus.org> To: Robert Huff Message-id: <20030831161120.GG94087@dds.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i References: <16206.31570.910005.394248@jerusalem.litteratus.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -CURRENT buildworld dies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:11:26 -0000 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:59:46PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > Running 5.0, I cvsup and build -CURRENT every night. (Build, > not install.) > Recently, the buildworld has been bombing with: > > As no one else is reporting this or something similar, I'm > willing to believe it's my screw-up ... but don't understand the > details of the build process well enough to fix. Are the make files > broken, have I got a missing or excess file, or did mergemaster take > a detour through the Twilight Zone? > > > Robert Huff There is a special maillist for the current brance, (freebsd-current@freebsd.org) it could be that someone on that list has reported this. Its adviced that you sign up to that list if you run current. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 09:12:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5242416A4BF; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.tiscali.de (relay1.tiscali.de [62.26.116.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB4443F75; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:12:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from walter@pelissero.de) Received: from daemon.home.loc (62.246.38.160) by webmail.tiscali.de (6.7.019) id 3F42A6F5003AFA7C; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:12:10 +0200 Received: from hyde.home.loc (hyde.home.loc [10.0.0.2]) by daemon.home.loc (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7VGAojl000972; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:10:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp@hyde.home.loc) Received: from hyde.home.loc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hyde.home.loc (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7VGAmZf051409; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:10:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp@hyde.home.loc) Received: (from wcp@localhost) by hyde.home.loc (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h7VGAkGK051406; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:10:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp) From: "Walter C. Pelissero" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16210.7684.367963.11923@hyde.home.loc> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:10:44 +0200 To: Bruce M Simpson In-Reply-To: <20030830120438.GA29217@spc.org> References: <16208.36799.970894.848331@hyde.home.loc> <20030830120438.GA29217@spc.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.16 under Emacs 21.3.50.2 X-Attribution: WP cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB -> PS/2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: walter@pelissero.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:12:12 -0000 Just noticed that the patch to usbd.c I proposed yesterday shows an undesirable behaviour. That is, usbd executes the actions in usbd.conf of all matching devices, which is not exactly what I meant to do. In fact, usbd should execute for every device name the "best" matching action in usbd.conf. Supposed usbd.conf is sorted in a way that the most specific entries precede the less specific ones, the following patch should do the trick. Cheers, -- walter pelissero http://www.pelissero.de --- usbd.c.orig Sun Aug 31 17:24:14 2003 +++ usbd.c Sun Aug 31 17:08:19 2003 @@ -102,6 +102,7 @@ int lineno; int verbose = 0; /* print message on what it is doing */ +int single_action = 0; typedef struct event_name_s { int type; /* event number (from usb.h) */ @@ -204,8 +205,7 @@ void print_event __P((struct usb_event *event)); void print_action __P((action_t *action, int i)); void print_actions __P((void)); -int find_action __P((struct usb_device_info *devinfo, - action_match_t *action_match)); +void execute_command __P((char *cmd)); void @@ -674,37 +674,19 @@ int -match_devname(action_t *action, struct usb_device_info *devinfo) +match_devname(regex_t *regex, char *name) { - int i; - regmatch_t match; - int error; - - for (i = 0; i < USB_MAX_DEVNAMES; i++) { - if (devinfo->udi_devnames[i][0] == '\0') - break; - - error = regexec(&action->devname_regex, devinfo->udi_devnames[i], - 1, &match, 0); - if (error == 0) { - if (verbose >= 2) - printf("%s: %s matches %s\n", __progname, - devinfo->udi_devnames[i], action->devname); - return(i); - } - } - - return(-1); + return regexec(regex, name, 0, 0, 0) == 0; } - -int -find_action(struct usb_device_info *devinfo, action_match_t *action_match) +void +execute_actions (struct usb_device_info *devinfo, int event_type) { action_t *action; char *devname = NULL; - int match = -1; + int i; + for (i = 0; i < USB_MAX_DEVNAMES && devinfo->udi_devnames[i][0] != '\0'; i++) { STAILQ_FOREACH(action, &actions, next) { if ((action->vendor == WILDCARD_INT || action->vendor == devinfo->udi_vendorNo) && @@ -719,15 +701,15 @@ (action->protocol == WILDCARD_INT || action->protocol == devinfo->udi_protocol) && (action->devname == WILDCARD_STRING || - (match = match_devname(action, devinfo)) != -1)) { - /* found match !*/ - + match_devname(&action->devname_regex, devinfo->udi_devnames[i]))) { + if (verbose >= 2) + print_action(action, 0); /* Find a devname for pretty printing. Either * the matched one or otherwise, if there is only * one devname for that device, use that. */ - if (match >= 0) - devname = devinfo->udi_devnames[match]; + if (action->devname != WILDCARD_STRING) + devname = devinfo->udi_devnames[i]; else if (devinfo->udi_devnames[0][0] != '\0' && devinfo->udi_devnames[1][0] == '\0') /* if we have exactly 1 device name */ @@ -742,16 +724,37 @@ printf("\n"); } - action_match->action = action; - action_match->devname = devname; + if (devname) { + int error; + if (verbose >= 2) + printf("%s: Setting DEVNAME='%s'\n", + __progname, devname); + error = setenv("DEVNAME", devname, 1); + if (error) + fprintf(stderr, "%s: setenv(\"DEVNAME\", + \"%s\",1) failed, %s\n", + __progname, devname, strerror(errno)); + } - return(1); + if (USB_EVENT_IS_ATTACH(event_type) && action->attach) + execute_command(action->attach); + if (USB_EVENT_IS_DETACH(event_type) && action->detach) + execute_command(action->detach); + /* We are done if either we are + * running in single action mode or we + * didn't match the device name, that + * is, we have a catch-all entry for + * the particular USB device. */ + if (single_action || action->devname == WILDCARD_STRING) + return; + /* get on to the next device name */ + break; + } } } - - return(0); } + void execute_command(char *cmd) { @@ -881,30 +884,7 @@ break; case USB_EVENT_DEVICE_ATTACH: case USB_EVENT_DEVICE_DETACH: - if (find_action(&event.u.ue_device, &action_match) == 0) - /* nothing found */ - break; - - if (verbose >= 2) - print_action(action_match.action, 0); - - if (action_match.devname) { - if (verbose >= 2) - printf("%s: Setting DEVNAME='%s'\n", - __progname, action_match.devname); - - error = setenv("DEVNAME", action_match.devname, 1); - if (error) - fprintf(stderr, "%s: setenv(\"DEVNAME\", \"%s\",1) failed, %s\n", - __progname, action_match.devname, strerror(errno)); - } - - if (USB_EVENT_IS_ATTACH(event.ue_type) && - action_match.action->attach) - execute_command(action_match.action->attach); - if (USB_EVENT_IS_DETACH(event.ue_type) && - action_match.action->detach) - execute_command(action_match.action->detach); + execute_actions(&event.u.ue_device, event.ue_type); break; case USB_EVENT_DRIVER_ATTACH: if (verbose) @@ -944,7 +924,7 @@ } } - while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "c:def:nt:v")) != -1) { + while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "c:def:nst:v")) != -1) { switch(ch) { case 'c': configfile = strdup(optarg); @@ -965,6 +945,9 @@ break; case 'n': handle_events = 0; + break; + case 's': + single_action = 1; break; case 't': itimeout = atoi(optarg); From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 09:17:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C993E16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp07.wxs.nl (smtp07.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060E343FA3 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:17:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akruijff@www.kruijff.org) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp07.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HKH00BL8RWFLL@smtp07.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:17:04 +0200 (MEST) Received: from Intranet.lan (akruijff@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h7VGH2RO093207;akruijff@Intranet.lan) Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by Intranet.lan (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h7VGH0Ad093206; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:17:00 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <200308262217.RAA05834@buhlpress.com> To: Don Barkley Message-id: <20030831161700.GH94087@dds.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i References: <200308262217.RAA05834@buhlpress.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.8 install on Gateway 920 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:17:05 -0000 On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 05:17:28PM -0500, Don Barkley wrote: > i am having a problem installing 4.8 on a new Gateway 920. > the system boots and asks for mfsroot.flp. > > almost immediately after, i get the following: > > Fatal trap 10: trace trap while in vm86 mode > .. instruction, stack and frame pointers follow ... > trap number = 10 > panic: trace trap > Uptime: 1s > > anyone seen this before? any suggestions? thanks. > It could be that one of your floppies is bad or that some bad code has entered the floppie images. (I had the later one time.) The solution for the first option is to get new floppies, the solution for the later is to use floppies of earlies version, install that and then upgrade. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 09:42:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4623F16A4C1 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 940F743FE5 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:42:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blueeskimo@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 29404 invoked by uid 65534); 31 Aug 2003 16:42:30 -0000 Received: from dsl-cust-145.openweb.ca (EHLO [64.39.186.145]) (64.39.186.145) by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 31 Aug 2003 18:42:30 +0200 From: Adam McLaurin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3F52228E.4000802@web.de> References: <1062345091.33762.12.camel@jake> <3F52228E.4000802@web.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Xkv7wbDkKo0EobktX5v0" Message-Id: <1062348147.33762.16.camel@jake> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:42:28 -0400 cc: Felix Deichmann Subject: Re: Accessing http://netbsd.org from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:42:33 -0000 --=-Xkv7wbDkKo0EobktX5v0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 12:30, Felix Deichmann wrote: > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2003/04/08/0020.html >=20 > Has something to do with IPv4/IPv6 "dual" hosts. I disabled IPv6 in my=20 > NetBSD kernel and Mozilla works again. Don't know if this solution works=20 > for FreeBSD. Heh, you sent me a netbsd.org website!=20 Anyhow, I looked into my kernel config and noticed: -$ grep -i ipv6 /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ESKI options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) Which one of these is it suggesting I remove? --=20 Adam McLaurin --=-Xkv7wbDkKo0EobktX5v0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA/UiVzt+DSc2Q4lGYRAkefAKCV9fkmS35O6HOzcal4NUgefmngLACgqfAA tULsKY2Mzxraf5wVfqMD5Ok= =lZaF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Xkv7wbDkKo0EobktX5v0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 09:51:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148F816A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp6.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP6.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.10.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3158B43FCB for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:51:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abender@andrew.cmu.edu) Received: from UNIX44.andrew.cmu.edu (UNIX44.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.13.174]) (user=abender mech=GSSAPI (0 bits))h7VGpnil000923; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:51:49 -0400 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:51:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Bender To: Adam McLaurin In-Reply-To: <1062341491.33762.7.camel@jake> Message-ID: References: <1062341491.33762.7.camel@jake> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:51:51 -0000 On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Adam McLaurin wrote: > On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 10:04, Adam Bender wrote: > > XFree86-4.2.0_1,1 > > There's your problem. Portupgrade to 4.3.x and try Xft and xscreensaver > again. > Hmm, I did the portupgrade (surprisingly quick, do I have to do anything else?). Now I have XFree86-4.3.0,1, but I still get the same compilation errors from Xft. Thanks, Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 09:52:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57BD16A4BF; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1518C43FB1; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:52:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-102-154.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.102.154] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #4) id 19tVR5-0001Cr-00; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:52:19 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16210.10178.513524.898335@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:52:18 -0400 To: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <16209.62524.183726.612751@hyde.home.loc> References: <16208.36799.970894.848331@hyde.home.loc> <20030830120438.GA29217@spc.org> <16209.62524.183726.612751@hyde.home.loc> X-Mailer: VM 7.11 under 21.5 (beta13) "cauliflower" XEmacs Lucid cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB -> PS/2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:52:20 -0000 Walter C. Pelissero writes: > Ok, today I spent some time deciphering the ums log and came up > with this patch. deletia > Unfortunately my knowledge (or rather lack of it) of the USB/UMS > driver doesn't give me very much confidence that I didn't break > something else. > > What was that conditional return suposed to protect from? > Is it safe to remove it? The accepted way of finding out would be to do a send-pr to bring it to the formal attention of the usual suspects. (I can't seem to find an appropriate item - anyone got suggestions?) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 10:03:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC8316A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tementene.com (ns1.tementene.com [216.57.204.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEACA44013 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:03:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nkirsch@spike.nick.org) Received: from spike.nick.org (nkirsch@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h7VGukMv004155 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:56:46 -0700 Received: (from nkirsch@localhost) by spike.nick.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4) id h7VGukb0004153 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:56:46 -0700 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:56:46 -0700 From: "Nicholas M. Kirsch" Message-Id: <200308311656.h7VGukb0004153@spike.nick.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.35 X-Virus-Scanned: clamdscan / ClamAV version 0.60+BugFixesFromSnapshot-20030806 Subject: dual/multi head console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:03:06 -0000 I've googled, searched the FAQ, web page, and newsgroup archives -- there seems to be no information regarding dual/multi head console on FreeBSD. Is this supported? Not X, just virtual consoles. Any advice or pointers appreciated. Nick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 10:59:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B7A16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2991043FBD for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:59:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h7VHx1227627; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:59:01 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: Erik Trulsson , Guy Van Sanden Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:59:01 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <1062259088.2854.10.camel@cronos.home.vsb> <1062318011.7669.1.camel@cronos.home.vsb> <20030831085059.GA27051@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20030831085059.GA27051@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308311059.01175.kstewart@owt.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade 5.0 to 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:59:06 -0000 On Sunday 31 August 2003 01:50 am, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 10:20:12AM +0200, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > Hi Kent > > > > Thanks for your answers! > > I have one more question, the manual says to drop to single user > > mode before doing buildworld, do you do this. > > If I could avoid this, I could run buildworld during the night, and > > do installworld when it suits me during the daytime. > > There is absolutely no need to go to single user mode before a > buildworld/buildkernel. Never has been necessary either, AFAIK. > > Read the manual a bit more carefully and I think you will find out > that it agrees with me. In addition, the manual always tells you that /usr/src/UPDATING is the final reference and it only goes to single user mode to do the installworld. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 11:22:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFD016A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C420C43F75 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:22:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-102-154.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.102.154] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #4) id 19tWqn-00078P-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:22:57 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16210.15616.638366.623795@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:22:56 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030831161120.GG94087@dds.nl> References: <16206.31570.910005.394248@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20030831161120.GG94087@dds.nl> X-Mailer: VM 7.11 under 21.5 (beta13) "cauliflower" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Re: -CURRENT buildworld dies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:22:58 -0000 Alex de Kruijff writes: > There is a special maillist for the current branch, > (freebsd-current@freebsd.org) I'm on it. > it could be that someone on that list has > reported this. They haven't. nor is it in the PR database. > Its adviced that you sign up to that list if you run > current. Mine is pretty clearly a case of "I've mucked up something trivial." as opposed to "The code is broken." The folks on -CURRENT have much better things to do than fix my problem. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 11:23:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2779516A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adicia.telenet-ops.be (adicia.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C58E43FBF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:23:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n.b@myrealbox.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id D21C737F44; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:23:28 +0200 (MEST) Received: from cronos.home.vsb (d5153CAA6.kabel.telenet.be [81.83.202.166]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D11A37FC7; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:23:28 +0200 (MEST) From: Guy Van Sanden To: Erik Trulsson In-Reply-To: <20030831085059.GA27051@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> References: <1062259088.2854.10.camel@cronos.home.vsb> <200308300934.32970.kstewart@owt.com> <1062269079.3218.14.camel@cronos.home.vsb> <200308301300.49430.kstewart@owt.com> <1062318011.7669.1.camel@cronos.home.vsb> <20030831085059.GA27051@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1062354207.7669.31.camel@cronos.home.vsb> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-1tex Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:23:28 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade 5.0 to 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:23:31 -0000 Thanks, I hoped it would be so. Chapter 21 of the handbook is not entirely clear about this, it does seem to recommend dropping to single user mode before building... I'll try it without anyway :-) On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 10:50, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 10:20:12AM +0200, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > Hi Kent > > > > Thanks for your answers! > > I have one more question, the manual says to drop to single user mode > > before doing buildworld, do you do this. > > If I could avoid this, I could run buildworld during the night, and do > > installworld when it suits me during the daytime. > > There is absolutely no need to go to single user mode before a > buildworld/buildkernel. Never has been necessary either, AFAIK. > > Read the manual a bit more carefully and I think you will find out that > it agrees with me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 12:21:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F6F16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.tiscali.de (relay1.tiscali.de [62.26.116.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C994643FE0 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:21:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from walter@pelissero.de) Received: from daemon.home.loc (62.246.56.72) by webmail.tiscali.de (6.7.019) id 3F2FA201007A8324 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:21:16 +0200 Received: from hyde.home.loc (hyde.home.loc [10.0.0.2]) by daemon.home.loc (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7VJKWjl001273 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:20:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp@hyde.home.loc) Received: from hyde.home.loc (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hyde.home.loc (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7VJKUZf074321 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:20:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp@hyde.home.loc) Received: (from wcp@localhost) by hyde.home.loc (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h7VJKTaF074318; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:20:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wcp) From: "Walter C. Pelissero" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16210.19069.322051.221630@hyde.home.loc> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:20:29 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.16 under Emacs 21.3.50.2 X-Attribution: WP Subject: fast typing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: walter@pelissero.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:21:19 -0000 When recently I've switched to a PS/2 Keyboard attached to a USB converter I started to experience strange typos. The problem is extra characters sent to the machine while typing fairly fast. It can be easily reproduced doing this: 1. xset r off 2. press and keep pressed a key, say 'd' 3. press and keep pressed another key, say 'w' 4. release the first key 5. at this point you should see "dwww" which is not what I expect ("dw") 6. release the second key 7. at this point I see a "dwwww" On a PS/2 keyboard connected directly to a PS/2 port (no converter in between), this doesn't happen. Unfortunately I've got no USB keyboard to try directly without the USB->PS/2 converter. I was wondering if this is a problem of the USB converter or a problem of the ukbd driver. Does anybody else experience the same behaviour? Cheers, -- walter pelissero http://www.pelissero.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 12:44:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8429816A4C0 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15D243F3F for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:44:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h7VJiC200362; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:44:12 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: Aaron Dalton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:44:11 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <200308310816.29305.aaron@finch.st> In-Reply-To: <200308310816.29305.aaron@finch.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308311244.11670.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lXfont X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:44:15 -0000 On Sunday 31 August 2003 07:16 am, Aaron Dalton wrote: > Please excuse my ignorance. I cvsup'd my ports tree and used > portupgrade to upgrade everything but I can't get > XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0 or Clients to install due to the following > error after making: > > making all in programs/bdftopcf... > rm -f bdftopcf > cc -o bdftopcf -O -pipe -ansi -Dasm=__asm -Wall -Wpointer-arith > -Wundef -L/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4-clients/work/xc/exports/lib > bdftopcf.o -lXfont -lfntstubs -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lz -lm > -Wl,-rpath,/usr/X11R6/lib > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lXfont > *** Error code 1 > > and for the FontServer: > > ar clq libdifs.a main.o dispatch.o extensions.o globals.o events.o > tables.o fontinfo.o charinfo.o swapreq.o swaprep.o resource.o > fonts.o difsutils.o cache.o initfonts.o atom.o > ranlib libdifs.a > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer/work/xc/e >xports/lib cc -o xfs -O -pipe -ansi -Dasm=__asm -Wall -Wpointer-arith > -Wundef > -L/usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer/work/xc/exports/lib > -L/usr/X11R6/lib difs/libdifs.a difs/libdifs.a os/libos.a > -L/usr/X11R6/lib > -L/usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer/work/xc/exports/lib > -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXfont -lfntstubs -lm -lz > -Wl,-rpath,/usr/X11R6/lib > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lXfont > *** Error code 1 > > Where is this library "Xfont" supposed to be? Thank you so much for > your time. It was installed by -libraries and deleted when you updated -server. It is no longer a part of -server and you have to reinstall -libraries again. You shouldn't have any problem like this in the future. Kent > > Cheers! -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 12:50:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF5716A4C1 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F5C43F93 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:50:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbsd@pacbell.net) Received: from atlas (adsl-64-160-45-240.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.160.45.240]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h7VJo9fa012237; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:50:09 -0700 (PDT) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mikko_Ty=F6l=E4j=E4rvi?= X-X-Sender: mikko@atlas.home To: pbdlists@pinboard.com In-Reply-To: <20030831003205.A94657@pinboard.com> Message-ID: <20030831123819.V59430@atlas.home> References: <200308271100.42049.dkelly@HiWAAY.net> <20030829235939.GE42454@grumpy.dyndns.org> <3F50CF19.5030200@mac.com> <20030831003205.A94657@pinboard.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: zmore for bzip2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:50:12 -0000 On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 pbdlists@pinboard.com wrote: > Adapting zmore for the case where you specify the files to display on > the command line is not problem at all: > > > diff kk zmore > 5,14d4 > < get_decompressor () > < { > < case `file ${1--} | sed "s/[^:]*: *\([^ ]*\).*/\1/"` in > < "compress"*) DECOMPRESSOR="uncompress -c";; > < "gzip"*) DECOMPRESSOR="gzip -cdfq";; > < "bzip2"*) DECOMPRESSOR="bunzip2 -cdq";; > < *) DECOMPRESSOR="cat";; > < esac > < } > < > 56,57c46 > < get_decompressor ${FILE} > < ${DECOMPRESSOR} "$FILE" | eval ${PAGER-more} > --- > > gzip -cdfq "$FILE" | eval ${PAGER-more} > > But when zmore is used as a pipe or with input redirection, things become > more complicated. > > gzip -cdfq | eval ${PAGER-more} > > In order to detect the type of data passed on STDIN, the get_decompressor > function or any other means of detection would consume STDIN. STDIN, however > must be passed to the decompressor after the type of data has been > detected. I don't have an idea hot to 'duplicate' STDIN, so it could be As a somewhat ugly hack, you could read a few bytes, match against known magic numbers and then prepend those bytes to the stream before feeding to the decompressor, for the cost of an extra "cat" process: magic=$(dd bs=1 count=3 2>/dev/null) case $magic in BZh) DECOMPRESSOR=bunzip2;; *) DECOMPRESSOR="gzip -cdfq";; esac (echo -n "$magic"; exec cat) | $DECOMPRESSOR | eval ${PAGER-more} Note that gzip will handle compressed data and gzipped data as well as plain text. $.02, /Mikko > consumed twice. Sure, writing it to a temporary file would be a > workaround: > > 38,53c28 > < FILE="/tmp/.zmore.${$}" > < touch ${FILE} 2>/dev/null > < if [ "${?}" -ne "0" ]; then > < echo "can't create temporary file" > < exit 1 > < fi > < chmod 0600 ${FILE} > < cat >${FILE} > < if [ "${?}" -ne "0" ]; then > < echo "can't create temporary file" > < rm -f ${FILE} > < exit 1 > < fi > < get_decompressor ${FILE} > < cat ${FILE} | ${DECOMPRESSOR} | eval ${PAGER-more} > < rm -f ${FILE} > --- > > gzip -cdfq | eval ${PAGER-more} > > But I don't like that. I myself sometimes work with compressed files > larger than anything I would be happy to write to /tmp or somewhere else > (even though those cases usually rather use zcat and its cousinds than > zmore...) > > Kurt > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:21:45PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > David Kelly wrote: > > [ ... ] > > > Yes, of course. But zmore is smart enough to figure out what to do with > > > several compression techniques, or even to handle non-compressed files > > > very trivially and without hassle. > > > > 'zmore' is a simple shell script which calls "gzcat | ${PAGER-more}". One > > solution to your problem, or at least a solution, would be to change zmore to > > look for a trailing bz/bz2 or invoke bzcat instead. Another would be to change > > the sources of gzip to recognize the bzip2 magic files bytes, extending the > > detection of gzip versus classic LZH used by compress. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 13:21:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BF916A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net (outbound02.telus.net [199.185.220.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66FF43FE3 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:21:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tech@computerking.ca) Received: from v20.computerking.ca ([137.186.212.154]) by priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.netESMTP <20030831202102.TSHH11419.priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net@v20.computerking.ca> for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:21:02 -0600 Received: from computerking.ca (unknown [192.168.0.19]) by v20.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EEA105D5 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:21:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3F5258AD.9080300@computerking.ca> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:21:01 -0600 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: vgetty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:21:04 -0000 need help with vgetty anyone use this program ?? could really use some help with getting it going. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 13:25:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F4116A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt30.cluster1.charter.net (remt30.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B2243FBD for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:25:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from [66.168.145.25] (HELO moe) by remt30.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 10889723; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:25:20 -0400 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'ODHIAMBO Washington'" Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:25:11 -0500 Message-ID: <001901c36ffd$fb0c4440$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <20030831100339.GG30047@ns2.wananchi.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: scripting the buildworld/installworld process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:25:23 -0000 > > I'll be glad to post the scripts for review if anyone's interested. >=20 >=20 > I'll take a look and test them for you also. OK, any input or corrections welcome. I definitly would be interested in more error checking and reporting, and I'm thinking about using \time to append the=20 time it takes the long utilities to run to a file for comparison purposes. ------ This is the first one ------ #!/usr/local/bin/bash # # Update the system, run in multi-user mode echo -n "Have you read /usr/src/UPDATING? [y/n]: " read a if [ $a =3D n ] ; then less /usr/src/UPDATING exit fi echo -n "Have you merged /etc/group and /usr/src/etc/group? [y/n]: " read b if [ $b =3D n ] ; then diff -c /etc/group /usr/src/etc/group | less exit fi echo -n "Have you merged /etc/master.passwd and /usr/src/etc/master.passwd? [y/n]: " read c if [ $c =3D n ] ; then diff -c /etc/master.passwd /usr/src/etc/master.passwd exit fi # copy my customized make.conf cp /disk2/larry/etc/make.conf /etc # copy my customized kernel config file cp /disk2/larry/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/CUSTOM /usr/src/sys/i386/conf echo -n "Clean out /usr/obj? [y/n]: " read d if [ $d =3D y ] ; then cd /usr/obj chflags -R noschg * rm -rf * fi echo -n "Continue with build? [y/n]: " read e if [ $e =3D n ] ; then exit fi cd /usr/src make -j4 buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC make installkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC cp /boot/kernel /boot/kernel.GENERIC make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DCUSTOM make installkernel KERNCONF=3DCUSTOM echo "Reboot to single user mode and run /disk2/larry/bin/update2" Exit ------ This is the second one ------ #!/usr/local/bin/bash # # Update the system, run in single user mode echo -n "Continue with installworld? [y/n]: " read a=20 if [ $a =3D n ] ; then exit fi make installworld if [ -d /etc.old ] ; then rm -r /etc.old fi =20 cp -Rp /etc /etc.old /usr/sbin/mergemaster -a cd /dev ./MAKEDEV all cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall make clean make all install echo "Finished! Do ps and top work?" Exit > > 2. After reading man mergemaster, I see that the -a flag will run > > mergemaster automatically and leave any new files in=20 > /var/tmp/temproot. > > I'd like to confirm that if I opt to run mergemaster -a,=20 > then I should > > check/merge any files before leaving single user mode. It=20 > seems like > > the right thing to do...? >=20 > Correct, but I'll advise you run mergemaster manually. Margemaster is > such a dangerous thing to run with -a on a system that has had so > many mods to /etc When I upgraded from 4.8-p3 to p4 recently, I ran mergemaster manually. The only file I had to make a decision on was (I forget the name) the one that prints the uname information when booting. Just for the sake of discussion, let's say I did opt to run mergemaster -a. All I would have to do is check every file in /var/tmp/temproot and be sure it didn't break anything by overwriting the older version, correct? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 13:45:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD81416A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0217043F3F for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:45:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h7VKj1203846; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:45:02 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: "Charles Howse" , "'ODHIAMBO Washington'" Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:45:01 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <001901c36ffd$fb0c4440$04fea8c0@moe> In-Reply-To: <001901c36ffd$fb0c4440$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308311345.01322.kstewart@owt.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scripting the buildworld/installworld process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:45:28 -0000 On Sunday 31 August 2003 01:25 pm, Charles Howse wrote: > > > I'll be glad to post the scripts for review if anyone's > > > interested. > > > > I'll take a look and test them for you also. > > OK, any input or corrections welcome. > I definitly would be interested in more error checking and > reporting, and I'm thinking about using \time to append the > time it takes the long utilities to run to a file for comparison > purposes. > > ------ This is the first one ------ > #!/usr/local/bin/bash > # > # Update the system, run in multi-user mode > > echo -n "Have you read /usr/src/UPDATING? [y/n]: " > read a > if [ $a = n ] ; then > less /usr/src/UPDATING > exit > fi > echo -n "Have you merged /etc/group and /usr/src/etc/group? [y/n]: " > read b > if [ $b = n ] ; then > diff -c /etc/group /usr/src/etc/group | less > exit > fi > echo -n "Have you merged /etc/master.passwd and > /usr/src/etc/master.passwd? [y/n]: " > read c > if [ $c = n ] ; then > diff -c /etc/master.passwd /usr/src/etc/master.passwd > exit > fi > # copy my customized make.conf > cp /disk2/larry/etc/make.conf /etc > # copy my customized kernel config file > cp /disk2/larry/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/CUSTOM /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > echo -n "Clean out /usr/obj? [y/n]: " > read d > if [ $d = y ] ; then > cd /usr/obj > chflags -R noschg * > rm -rf * > fi > echo -n "Continue with build? [y/n]: " > read e > if [ $e = n ] ; then > exit > fi > cd /usr/src > make -j4 buildworld > make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > cp /boot/kernel /boot/kernel.GENERIC > make buildkernel KERNCONF=CUSTOM > make installkernel KERNCONF=CUSTOM > echo "Reboot to single user mode and run /disk2/larry/bin/update2" > Exit > > ------ This is the second one ------ > #!/usr/local/bin/bash > # > # Update the system, run in single user mode > > echo -n "Continue with installworld? [y/n]: " > read a > if [ $a = n ] ; then > exit > fi > make installworld > if [ -d /etc.old ] ; then > rm -r /etc.old > fi > cp -Rp /etc /etc.old > /usr/sbin/mergemaster -a > cd /dev > ./MAKEDEV all > cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall > make clean > make all install > echo "Finished! Do ps and top work?" > Exit > > > > 2. After reading man mergemaster, I see that the -a flag will run > > > mergemaster automatically and leave any new files in > > > > /var/tmp/temproot. > > > > > I'd like to confirm that if I opt to run mergemaster -a, > > > > then I should > > > > > check/merge any files before leaving single user mode. It > > > > seems like > > > > > the right thing to do...? > > > > Correct, but I'll advise you run mergemaster manually. Margemaster > > is such a dangerous thing to run with -a on a system that has had > > so many mods to /etc > > When I upgraded from 4.8-p3 to p4 recently, I ran mergemaster > manually. The only file I had to make a decision on was (I forget the > name) the one that prints the uname information when booting. > Just for the sake of discussion, let's say I did opt to run > mergemaster -a. > All I would have to do is check every file in /var/tmp/temproot and > be sure it didn't break anything by overwriting the older version, > correct? > One area I would check is /etc/master.passwd and groups. It would be really interesting for you if your user accounts all disappeared. I also won't let mergemaster touch my hosts and printcap files. I would also go to the trouble of tee'ing the makes and create logs of the makes and installs. Since you are going on, you want to know what you have done. What I typically do is make buildworld 2>&1 | tee /var/log/build/bworld-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log Sorry about the wrap but I have kmail set at col 72. I have relatively large /var and /tmp and just added ../build to /var/log. The date required minutes in order to be unique. I also log all of my cvsups. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 13:46:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C0E16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.libertysurf.net (mail.libertysurf.net [213.36.80.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE3B43FBF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:46:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from messmate@tiscali.fr) Received: from eric.placeverte.home (213.36.122.233) by mail.libertysurf.net (6.5.026) id 3F5172F90001D8A6 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:46:05 +0200 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:47:00 +0200 From: mess-mate To: freebsd-questions-en Message-Id: <20030831224700.6b031ea9.messmate@tiscali.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: grub X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:46:08 -0000 Hi list, Can't boot FreeBSD from the grub bootloader. Error 17 : can't mount selected ..... This is the config: root (hd1,3,a) kernel /boot/loader I'm running release 5.1. Is there something other to do ?? Thanks for your help. mess-mate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 13:55:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D5416A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.lphp.org (APastourelles-107-1-1-136.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.13.78.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C50143FB1 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:55:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Received: from sta01 (sta01.lphp.org.local [192.168.0.4]) by mx1.lphp.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7VKtbCY012657; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:55:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) From: Antoine Jacoutot To: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:55:34 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <3F5258AD.9080300@computerking.ca> In-Reply-To: <3F5258AD.9080300@computerking.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308312255.37653.ajacoutot@lphp.org> Subject: Re: vgetty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:55:46 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 31 August 2003 22:21, RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote: > need help with vgetty anyone use this program ?? could really use some > help with getting it going. I am and it is working great. My setup is mgetty+vgetty --> receive voice and faxes, automaticaly print t= he=20 faxes, send me faxes and voice to my email address. If you need any help, I would be pleased to help... if I can :) Antoine =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQE/UmDJY3Hnhkr+5cQRAvncAJdtHBbxssdDVZf6efk1ot+PGdbGAJ9P5T2+ M5MG++2PKeYyIxneL4RvLQ=3D=3D =3DNB2s =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 14:17:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C5816A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from priv-edtnes61.telusplanet.net (outbound01.telus.net [199.185.220.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D57343FE1 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:17:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tech@computerking.ca) Received: from v20.computerking.ca ([137.186.212.154]) by priv-edtnes61.telusplanet.netESMTP <20030831211713.ZMMD18788.priv-edtnes61.telusplanet.net@v20.computerking.ca> for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:17:13 -0600 Received: from computerking.ca (unknown [192.168.0.19]) by v20.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C45104AE for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:17:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3F5265D8.6060805@computerking.ca> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:17:12 -0600 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: vgetty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:17:15 -0000 right on glad to hear someone has this program working as i am sort of lost mgetty starts ok i think as i get this in my ps -aux root 487 0.0 1.2 1048 704 ?? S 2:34PM 0:00.03 /usr/local/sbin/mgetty cuaa1 root 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? DLs 7:58AM 0:00.00 (swapper) [Sun Aug 31] 02:34 PM [0] but i want to use vgetty and all the docs talk about /etc/inittab i do not think this file exists in freebsd so where do i make my changes so that vgetty starts instead of mgetty also my log file for mgetty.cuaa1 has some problems with my modem mabey you can help me with that too. i use freebsd 4.8 and a usr 3com pci modem this is what bsd sees for a dmseg sio0: <3COM PCI FaxModem> port 0x6c00-0x6c07 irq 9 at device 15.0 on pci0 sio0: moving to sio4 sio4: type 16550A this is my mgetty log mabey i should turn up my debug settings however i really hate to reboot my system Is there a way to reset mgetty vgetty without rebooting as my isp changes ipaddress alot which causes my lots of dns greif and missed emails and web hit etc etc etc 08/31 15:09:19 aa1 mgetty: experimental test release 1.1.30-Dec16 08/31 15:09:19 aa1 check for lockfiles 08/31 15:09:19 aa1 locking the line 08/31 15:09:22 aa1 WARNING: DSR is off - modem turned off or bad cable? 08/31 15:09:22 aa1 lowering DTR to reset Modem 08/31 15:09:23 aa1 send: ATS0=0Q0&D3&C1[0d] 08/31 15:09:23 aa1 waiting for ``OK'' 08/31 15:09:43 aa1 timeout in chat script, waiting for `OK' 08/31 15:09:43 aa1 init chat timed out, trying force-init-chat 08/31 15:09:43 aa1 send: \d[10][03]\d\d\d+++\d\d\d[0d]\dATQ0V1H0[0d] 08/31 15:09:47 aa1 waiting for ``OK'' 08/31 15:10:07 aa1 timeout in chat script, waiting for `OK' 08/31 15:10:07 aa1 init chat failed, exiting...: Interrupted system call 08/31 15:10:07 ##### failed in mg_init_data, dev=cuaa1, pid=572 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 14:19:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F400D16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt24.cluster1.charter.net (remt24.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220E643F85 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:19:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from [66.168.145.25] (HELO moe) by remt24.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 142458758; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:19:49 -0400 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'Kent Stewart'" , "'ODHIAMBO Washington'" Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:19:34 -0500 Message-ID: <001d01c37005$953e6eb0$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <200308311345.01322.kstewart@owt.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: scripting the buildworld/installworld process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:19:51 -0000 > > > > I'll be glad to post the scripts for review if anyone's > > > > interested. > > > > > > I'll take a look and test them for you also. > > > > OK, any input or corrections welcome. > > I definitly would be interested in more error checking and > > reporting, and I'm thinking about using \time to append the > > time it takes the long utilities to run to a file for comparison > > purposes. > > > > ------ This is the first one ------ > > #!/usr/local/bin/bash > > # > > # Update the system, run in multi-user mode > > > > echo -n "Have you read /usr/src/UPDATING? [y/n]: " > > read a > > if [ $a =3D n ] ; then > > less /usr/src/UPDATING > > exit > > fi > > echo -n "Have you merged /etc/group and /usr/src/etc/group? [y/n]: " > > read b > > if [ $b =3D n ] ; then > > diff -c /etc/group /usr/src/etc/group | less > > exit > > fi > > echo -n "Have you merged /etc/master.passwd and > > /usr/src/etc/master.passwd? [y/n]: " > > read c > > if [ $c =3D n ] ; then > > diff -c /etc/master.passwd /usr/src/etc/master.passwd > > exit > > fi > > # copy my customized make.conf > > cp /disk2/larry/etc/make.conf /etc > > # copy my customized kernel config file > > cp /disk2/larry/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/CUSTOM /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > > echo -n "Clean out /usr/obj? [y/n]: " > > read d > > if [ $d =3D y ] ; then > > cd /usr/obj > > chflags -R noschg * > > rm -rf * > > fi > > echo -n "Continue with build? [y/n]: " > > read e > > if [ $e =3D n ] ; then > > exit > > fi > > cd /usr/src > > make -j4 buildworld > > make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC > > make installkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC > > cp /boot/kernel /boot/kernel.GENERIC > > make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DCUSTOM > > make installkernel KERNCONF=3DCUSTOM > > echo "Reboot to single user mode and run /disk2/larry/bin/update2" > > Exit > > > > ------ This is the second one ------ > > #!/usr/local/bin/bash > > # > > # Update the system, run in single user mode > > > > echo -n "Continue with installworld? [y/n]: " > > read a > > if [ $a =3D n ] ; then > > exit > > fi > > make installworld > > if [ -d /etc.old ] ; then > > rm -r /etc.old > > fi > > cp -Rp /etc /etc.old > > /usr/sbin/mergemaster -a > > cd /dev > > ./MAKEDEV all > > cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall > > make clean > > make all install > > echo "Finished! Do ps and top work?" > > Exit > > > > > > 2. After reading man mergemaster, I see that the -a=20 > flag will run > > > > mergemaster automatically and leave any new files in > > > > > > /var/tmp/temproot. > > > > > > > I'd like to confirm that if I opt to run mergemaster -a, > > > > > > then I should > > > > > > > check/merge any files before leaving single user mode. It > > > > > > seems like > > > > > > > the right thing to do...? > > > > > > Correct, but I'll advise you run mergemaster manually. Margemaster > > > is such a dangerous thing to run with -a on a system that has had > > > so many mods to /etc > > > > When I upgraded from 4.8-p3 to p4 recently, I ran mergemaster > > manually. The only file I had to make a decision on was (I=20 > forget the > > name) the one that prints the uname information when booting. > > Just for the sake of discussion, let's say I did opt to run > > mergemaster -a. > > All I would have to do is check every file in /var/tmp/temproot and > > be sure it didn't break anything by overwriting the older version, > > correct? > > >=20 > One area I would check is /etc/master.passwd and groups. It would be=20 > really interesting for you if your user accounts all disappeared. I=20 > also won't let mergemaster touch my hosts and printcap files. I'm not sure exactly what you mean. I'm asking whether or not to diff the master.passwd and group files ( see above ). If I run mergemaster -a, my understanding is that it doesn't make any changes, it just leaves the new files in /var/tmp/temproot to be dealt with later, so it wouldn't touch my hosts and other important custom files, right? > I would also go to the trouble of tee'ing the makes and=20 > create logs of=20 > the makes and installs. Since you are going on, you want to know what=20 > you have done. What I typically do is >=20 > make buildworld 2>&1 | tee /var/log/build/bworld-`date=20 > "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log Excellent idea, if I was tight on disk space, I could even gzip them. > required minutes in order to be unique. I also log all of my cvsups. Another great idea! Thanks! I've just been working on timing the different processes, here's a snippet... Printf "Time for buildworld:\t" >> /root/build.log \time -aho /root/build.log make buildworld Printf "\n" >> /root/build.log BTW, which field do I want from the output of time? Real, user, whatever? I'll also need to do some cut'ing in order to just get the proper field from time...or I could just let it rip...? For instance... Time for buildworld: 2:34:15 real 2:35:12 user etc... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 14:25:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049B616A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailproxy1.netcologne.de (mailproxy1.netcologne.de [194.8.194.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2899943F75 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:25:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stefan@drachenhorst.fantasy.net) Received: from drachenhorst.fantasy.net (xdsl-213-196-194-34.netcologne.de [213.196.194.34]) by mailproxy1.netcologne.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB47C6E73 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:25:23 +0200 (MEST) Received: by drachenhorst.fantasy.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9E515831; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:25:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:25:14 +0200 From: Stefan Malte Schumacher To: freebsd-questions-en Message-ID: <20030831212514.GA7694@drachenhorst.fantasy.net> Mail-Followup-To: Stefan Malte Schumacher , freebsd-questions-en References: <20030831224700.6b031ea9.messmate@tiscali.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030831224700.6b031ea9.messmate@tiscali.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Precedence: first-class Priority: normal Subject: Re: grub X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:25:27 -0000 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 22:47:00 +0200, mess-mate wrote: > Hi list, > Can't boot FreeBSD from the grub bootloader. > Error 17 : can't mount selected ..... > This is the config: > root (hd1,3,a) > kernel /boot/loader > I'm running release 5.1. > Is there something other to do ?? > Thanks for your help. > mess-mate Grub does not support UFS2 currently. The solution is to use UFS1 for the root partition, then everything works fine. IIRC to achive you have to select "Custom Options" while creating the partitions and replace -02 with -01. Bye Stefan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 14:30:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA47916A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp801.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 491394400E for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:30:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ms_email@pacbell.net) Received: from adsl-64-168-22-194.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO marcelodell2) (ms?email@pacbell.net@64.168.22.194 with login) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 2003 21:30:46 -0000 From: "Marcelo Schmidt" To: "Malcolm Kay" , Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:30:40 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200308292007.31910.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: RE: How do I change the speed on ttyd0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:30:48 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:30:48 -0000 Malcolm: Thanks. I set ttyd0 with ttyid0 and I am reading the output. The problem I have is if I reboot the server I have to set the speed for ttyd0 again. I tried to configure ttys and rc.serial to get default port settings without success. Do you know how to change the default settings in this case ttyd0? -m -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm Kay [mailto:malcolm.kay@internode.on.net] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 3:38 AM To: Marcelo Schmidt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I change the speed on ttyd0? On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 15:56, Marcelo Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > I need to read data from a temperature sensor (PIC12C509) that requires: > serial data at 2400 baud, 8 bits, no parity, one or two stop bits. I tried > several things, tip, cu, > Device-SerialPort-0.13, etc. It seems to be the ttyd0 speed is locked in > 9600: > > # stty -a -f /dev/ttyd0 Since you are calling out it is probably better to use /dev/cuaa0; but must admit I don't fully understand the implications of cuaa0 vs ttyd0. In any case you can set the default parameters on ttyd0 with ttyid0 or cuaa0 with cuaia0. This pseudo ports are for the sole purpose of setting the defaults on ttyd0 and cuaa0. So assuming you use /dev/cuaa0 then you want: # stty -f /dev/cuaia0 speed 2400 You probably also want to set some other parameters such as: # stty -f /dev/cuaia0 clocal > speed 9600 baud; 0 rows; 0 columns; > lflags: -icanon -isig -iexten -echo -echoe -echok -echoke -echonl > -echoctl -echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop -flusho -pendin > -nokerninfo -extproc > iflags: -istrip -icrnl -inlcr -igncr -ixon -ixoff -ixany -imaxbel -ignbrk > -brkint -inpck -ignpar -parmrk > oflags: -opost -onlcr -ocrnl -oxtabs -onocr -onlret > cflags: cread cs8 -parenb -parodd hupcl -clocal -cstopb -crtscts -dsrflow > -dtrflow -mdmbuf > cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; > eol2 = ; erase = ^?; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; > lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; > status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; > > My /etc/ttys: > ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.2400" unknown off secure local > > I also got sometimes: /kernel: sio0: 26 more tty-level buffer overflows > (total 8805). > > So how do I change the speed on ttyd0? > Malcolm Kay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 14:31:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B8716A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C3143F85 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:31:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tech@computerking.ca) Received: from v20.computerking.ca ([137.186.212.154]) by priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.netESMTP <20030831213109.LVTC22816.priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net@v20.computerking.ca> for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:31:09 -0600 Received: from computerking.ca (unknown [192.168.0.19]) by v20.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD8D105DA for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:31:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3F52691D.2090005@computerking.ca> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:31:09 -0600 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: postfix problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:31:10 -0000 i keep geting this error in my postfix logs have tried newaliases command and it does not help also have tried to forward roots mail to a different accout and it does not seem to be working can someone help with this postfix/local[617]: warning: database /etc/mail/aliases.db is older than source file /etc/mail/aliases From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 14:36:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAB416A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ditp0054.medisin.ntnu.no (ditp0054.medisin.ntnu.no [129.241.173.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1536043F75 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:36:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bugsy@paniczone.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ditp0054.medisin.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A59544; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:36:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ditp0054.medisin.ntnu.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (illusion.paniczone.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89116-07; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:36:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ditp0054.medisin.ntnu.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 45DE753A; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:36:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:36:23 +0200 From: Kjell Rune =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gl=E6rum?= To: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN Message-ID: <20030831213623.GA89842@medisin.ntnu.no> References: <3F52691D.2090005@computerking.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3F52691D.2090005@computerking.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: NTNU, Det medisinske fakultet X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at paniczone.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: postfix problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:36:38 -0000 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 03:31:09PM -0600, RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote: > i keep geting this error in my postfix logs have tried newaliases > command and it does not help also have tried to forward roots mail to a > different accout and it does not seem to be working can someone help > with this > > postfix/local[617]: warning: database /etc/mail/aliases.db is older than > source file /etc/mail/aliases You need to update the /etc/mail/aliases.db file, run portmap /etc/mail/aliases -- Kjell Rune Glærum AV/IT-seksjonen, Det medisinske fakultet, NTNU Telefon: (735) 98772 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 14:40:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E363E16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roc-66-67-55-11.rochester.rr.com (roc-66-67-55-11.rochester.rr.com [66.67.55.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C3D43FF9 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vega@roc-66-67-55-11.rochester.rr.com) Received: by roc-66-67-55-11.rochester.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 411CE901F41; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:42:10 -0400 From: mpd To: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN Message-ID: <20030831214210.GA13931@rochester.rr.com> References: <3F52691D.2090005@computerking.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F52691D.2090005@computerking.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: postfix problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:40:09 -0000 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 03:31:09PM -0600, RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote: > i keep geting this error in my postfix logs have tried newaliases > command and it does not help also have tried to forward roots mail to a > different accout and it does not seem to be working can someone help > with this > > postfix/local[617]: warning: database /etc/mail/aliases.db is older than > source file /etc/mail/aliases > You (or someone else) updated the aliases flatfile without running postalias(1). postalias /etc/mail/aliases should fix it. mike -- ___________________________________________________________ "MR NUTTY, HOW ABOUT A GLASS, WHAT SAY YOU!" - Pokey the Penguin from "ONE GLASS OF TURPENTINE COMING RIGHT UP" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 14:40:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF1316A4C2 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.mfn.org (mx1.mfn.org [204.238.179.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E7443FDF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:40:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from measl@mfn.org) Received: from [204.238.179.37] ([204.238.179.37]) by mx1.mfn.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h7VLepQl040993 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:40:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from measl@mfn.org) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:40:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "J.A. Terranson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Vinum stripe values table? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:40:56 -0000 Good Afternoon, The values to plug into vinum for stripe size has always been vague, other than avoiding a power of 2. Is there any way to calculate an optimal value? Or is there a table anywhere? Given an 8 drive raid5 array, where each drive is an identical 4096m drive, where do I start? Please not that I am not subscribed - please copy any responses directly as well as to the list. Many Thanks! -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org "Every living thing dies alone." Donnie Darko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 14:52:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B1416A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-29.ig.com.br (smtp-29.ig.com.br [200.226.132.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D39143FA3 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:52:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hlen@ig.com.br) Received: (qmail 17840 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2003 21:52:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO RJ141081235.user.veloxzone.com.br) (200.141.81.235) by smtp-29.ig.com.br with SMTP; 31 Aug 2003 21:52:11 -0000 From: Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1062366720.1280.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 (1.4.4-3) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:52:01 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: hlen@ig.com.br Subject: Re: grub X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:52:07 -0000 > > This is the config: > > root (hd1,3,a) > > kernel /boot/loader > > I'm running release 5.1. > > Is there something other to do ?? > > Thanks for your help. > > mess-mate > > Grub does not support UFS2 currently. The solution is to use UFS1 for the > root partition, then everything works fine. IIRC to achive you have to > select "Custom Options" while creating the partitions and replace -02 with > -01. > > Bye > Stefan Or you can just use the following: title FreeBSD RELEASE 5.1 rootnoverify (hd1,3) chainloader +1 Don't know if there are any practical differences.. -- Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 15:00:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454D816A4C1 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7D643FE5 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:00:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h7VM0U207400; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:00:32 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: "Charles Howse" , "'ODHIAMBO Washington'" Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:00:29 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <001d01c37005$953e6eb0$04fea8c0@moe> In-Reply-To: <001d01c37005$953e6eb0$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308311500.29938.kstewart@owt.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scripting the buildworld/installworld process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:00:55 -0000 On Sunday 31 August 2003 02:19 pm, Charles Howse wrote: > > > > > I'll be glad to post the scripts for review if anyone's > > > > > interested. > > > > > > > > I'll take a look and test them for you also. > > > > > > OK, any input or corrections welcome. > > > I definitly would be interested in more error checking and > > > reporting, and I'm thinking about using \time to append the > > > time it takes the long utilities to run to a file for comparison > > > purposes. > > > > > > ------ This is the first one ------ > > > #!/usr/local/bin/bash > > > # > > > # Update the system, run in multi-user mode > > > > > > echo -n "Have you read /usr/src/UPDATING? [y/n]: " > > > read a > > > if [ $a = n ] ; then > > > less /usr/src/UPDATING > > > exit > > > fi > > > echo -n "Have you merged /etc/group and /usr/src/etc/group? > > > [y/n]: " read b > > > if [ $b = n ] ; then > > > diff -c /etc/group /usr/src/etc/group | less > > > exit > > > fi > > > echo -n "Have you merged /etc/master.passwd and > > > /usr/src/etc/master.passwd? [y/n]: " > > > read c > > > if [ $c = n ] ; then > > > diff -c /etc/master.passwd /usr/src/etc/master.passwd > > > exit > > > fi > > > # copy my customized make.conf > > > cp /disk2/larry/etc/make.conf /etc > > > # copy my customized kernel config file > > > cp /disk2/larry/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/CUSTOM > > > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf echo -n "Clean out /usr/obj? [y/n]: " > > > read d > > > if [ $d = y ] ; then > > > cd /usr/obj > > > chflags -R noschg * > > > rm -rf * > > > fi > > > echo -n "Continue with build? [y/n]: " > > > read e > > > if [ $e = n ] ; then > > > exit > > > fi > > > cd /usr/src > > > make -j4 buildworld > > > make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > > > make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > > > cp /boot/kernel /boot/kernel.GENERIC > > > make buildkernel KERNCONF=CUSTOM > > > make installkernel KERNCONF=CUSTOM > > > echo "Reboot to single user mode and run > > > /disk2/larry/bin/update2" Exit > > > > > > ------ This is the second one ------ > > > #!/usr/local/bin/bash > > > # > > > # Update the system, run in single user mode > > > > > > echo -n "Continue with installworld? [y/n]: " > > > read a > > > if [ $a = n ] ; then > > > exit > > > fi > > > make installworld > > > if [ -d /etc.old ] ; then > > > rm -r /etc.old > > > fi > > > cp -Rp /etc /etc.old > > > /usr/sbin/mergemaster -a > > > cd /dev > > > ./MAKEDEV all > > > cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall > > > make clean > > > make all install > > > echo "Finished! Do ps and top work?" > > > Exit > > > > > > > > 2. After reading man mergemaster, I see that the -a > > > > flag will run > > > > > > > mergemaster automatically and leave any new files in > > > > > > > > /var/tmp/temproot. > > > > > > > > > I'd like to confirm that if I opt to run mergemaster -a, > > > > > > > > then I should > > > > > > > > > check/merge any files before leaving single user mode. It > > > > > > > > seems like > > > > > > > > > the right thing to do...? > > > > > > > > Correct, but I'll advise you run mergemaster manually. > > > > Margemaster is such a dangerous thing to run with -a on a > > > > system that has had so many mods to /etc > > > > > > When I upgraded from 4.8-p3 to p4 recently, I ran mergemaster > > > manually. The only file I had to make a decision on was (I > > > > forget the > > > > > name) the one that prints the uname information when booting. > > > Just for the sake of discussion, let's say I did opt to run > > > mergemaster -a. > > > All I would have to do is check every file in /var/tmp/temproot > > > and be sure it didn't break anything by overwriting the older > > > version, correct? > > > > One area I would check is /etc/master.passwd and groups. It would > > be really interesting for you if your user accounts all > > disappeared. I also won't let mergemaster touch my hosts and > > printcap files. > > I'm not sure exactly what you mean. I'm asking whether or not to > diff the master.passwd and group files ( see above ). > If I run mergemaster -a, my understanding is that it doesn't make any > changes, it just leaves the new files in /var/tmp/temproot to be > dealt with later, so it wouldn't touch my hosts and other important > custom files, right? Your diff would have caught it. I scrolled past it too fast and zeroed in on other things :). > > > I would also go to the trouble of tee'ing the makes and > > create logs of > > the makes and installs. Since you are going on, you want to know > > what you have done. What I typically do is > > > > make buildworld 2>&1 | tee /var/log/build/bworld-`date > > "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log > > Excellent idea, if I was tight on disk space, I could even gzip them. > > > required minutes in order to be unique. I also log all of my > > cvsups. > > Another great idea! Thanks! > > I've just been working on timing the different processes, here's a > snippet... > > Printf "Time for buildworld:\t" >> /root/build.log > \time -aho /root/build.log make buildworld > Printf "\n" >> /root/build.log > > BTW, which field do I want from the output of time? Real, user, > whatever? > I'll also need to do some cut'ing in order to just get the proper > field from time...or I could just let it rip...? > For instance... > > Time for buildworld: 2:34:15 real 2:35:12 user etc... When I started timing my buildworlds, I figured out that you need everything but the right hand stuff in the following AMD Athlon 2000+ XP 877.636u 233.835s 23:02.33 80.4% 1350+1662k 46008+7469io 2359pf+0w bw w -j2 891.151u 303.327s 35:02.77 56.8% 1305+1600k 52256+138679io 2749pf+0w bw w -j3 894.429u 305.373s 31:29.87 63.4% 1305+1595k 50306+138970io 1914pf+0w bw w -j4 893.259u 310.180s 32:43.57 61.2% 1308+1597k 56102+138705io 2145pf+0w bw w -j5 893.563u 311.353s 30:31.44 65.7% 1302+1591k 53927+138930io 2331pf+0w The wall clock time is really how efficient your process is. The fact that your user time or sys time is faster doesn't mean much if the wall clock time is 1/3 longer. I haven't automated timing this part because I time the whole script and not just the build. I would cut off the right hand side but it is too trivial to use just "time mkworld" and cut and paste the time into a "cat >> times.log" of my builds. This also lets me add comments in addition to the build time information. For example, the AMD 2000+ was important because that was the first build after an upgrade from an Intel P III 866. The upgrade was needed because the old mobo went flaky. I think that once you have it setup, I will probably make my KISS simple script more complicated :). I have one machine that the mouse doesn't work in single user mode and including the timing into my mkworld script would save time. I can always go back and edit my time log to include the comments. If I have a choice, I would add the date field to the right hand side so that I can connect the time to the build log. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 15:01:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83AD216A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.libertysurf.net (mail.libertysurf.net [213.36.80.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D298543FF7 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from messmate@tiscali.fr) Received: from eric.placeverte.home (213.36.122.193) by mail.libertysurf.net (6.5.026) id 3F5173AC00022994 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:01:42 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:02:13 +0200 From: mess-mate To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030901000213.406f18dc.messmate@tiscali.fr> In-Reply-To: <20030831212514.GA7694@drachenhorst.fantasy.net> References: <20030831224700.6b031ea9.messmate@tiscali.fr> <20030831212514.GA7694@drachenhorst.fantasy.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: grub X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:01:24 -0000 Hi Stefan, a little : makeactive chainloader +1 and there we go !! A debian-user give me the tip. A+ mess-mate On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:25:14 +0200 Stefan Malte Schumacher wrote: | On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 22:47:00 +0200, mess-mate wrote: | > Hi list, | > Can't boot FreeBSD from the grub bootloader. | > Error 17 : can't mount selected ..... | > This is the config: | > root (hd1,3,a) | > kernel /boot/loader | > I'm running release 5.1. | > Is there something other to do ?? | > Thanks for your help. | > mess-mate | | Grub does not support UFS2 currently. The solution is to use UFS1 for the | root partition, then everything works fine. IIRC to achive you have to | select "Custom Options" while creating the partitions and replace -02 with | -01. | | Bye | Stefan | _______________________________________________ | freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions | To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 15:15:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1393516A4C0 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt25.cluster1.charter.net (remt25.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040C643FEA for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:15:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from [66.168.145.25] (HELO moe) by remt25.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 142061520; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:15:33 -0400 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'Kent Stewart'" , "'ODHIAMBO Washington'" Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:15:21 -0500 Message-ID: <002701c3700d$5ef73190$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <200308311500.29938.kstewart@owt.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: scripting the buildworld/installworld process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:15:35 -0000 > When I started timing my buildworlds, I figured out that you need=20 > everything but the right hand stuff in the following >=20 > AMD Athlon 2000+ XP > 877.636u 233.835s 23:02.33 80.4% 1350+1662k 46008+7469io=20 > 2359pf+0w > bw w -j2 > 891.151u 303.327s 35:02.77 56.8% 1305+1600k 52256+138679io=20 > 2749pf+0w > bw w -j3 > 894.429u 305.373s 31:29.87 63.4% 1305+1595k 50306+138970io=20 > 1914pf+0w > bw w -j4 > 893.259u 310.180s 32:43.57 61.2% 1308+1597k 56102+138705io=20 > 2145pf+0w > bw w -j5 > 893.563u 311.353s 30:31.44 65.7% 1302+1591k 53927+138930io=20 > 2331pf+0w >=20 > The wall clock time is really how efficient your process is. The fact=20 > that your user time or sys time is faster doesn't mean much=20 > if the wall=20 > clock time is 1/3 longer.=20 >=20 > I haven't automated timing this part because I time the whole=20 > script and=20 > not just the build. I would cut off the right hand side but it is too=20 > trivial to use just "time mkworld" and cut and paste the time into a=20 > "cat >> times.log" of my builds. This also lets me add comments in=20 > addition to the build time information. For example, the AMD=20 > 2000+ was=20 > important because that was the first build after an upgrade from an=20 > Intel P III 866. The upgrade was needed because the old mobo went=20 > flaky. >=20 > I think that once you have it setup, I will probably make my=20 > KISS simple=20 > script more complicated :). I have one machine that the mouse doesn't=20 > work in single user mode and including the timing into my mkworld=20 > script would save time. I can always go back and edit my time log to=20 > include the comments. If I have a choice, I would add the=20 > date field to=20 > the right hand side so that I can connect the time to the build log. I read "briefly" your web page about the -j urban legend. >From the stats above, it looks like it runs faster without the -j flag...? That might be something interesting to play with on my Celeron 300 w/ 64MB. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 15:22:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5421A16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutvdom.kundenserver.de (moutvdom.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676AA43F85 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:22:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stoerte@dreamwarrior.net) Received: from [212.227.126.221] (helo=mrvdomng.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19taaP-0002VG-00; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:22:17 +0200 Received: from [80.133.250.252] (helo=dreamwarrior.foobar.ath.cx) by mrvdomng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19taaP-0003P3-00; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:22:17 +0200 Received: from stoerte by dreamwarrior.foobar.ath.cx with local (Exim 4.22) id 19taaR-0009Kr-MI; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:22:19 +0200 To: mess-mate References: <20030831224700.6b031ea9.messmate@tiscali.fr> From: Frank Ruell Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:22:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20030831224700.6b031ea9.messmate@tiscali.fr> (mess-mate's message of "Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:47:00 +0200") Message-ID: <87oey5jwmc.fsf@dreamwarrior.foobar.ath.cx> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: grub X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:22:19 -0000 mess-mate writes: > Can't boot FreeBSD from the grub bootloader. >[...] > I'm running release 5.1. Try to boot it the way you do it for Windows. Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 16:06:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F09616A4C2 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt25.cluster1.charter.net (remt25.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F4943FD7 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:06:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from [66.168.145.25] (HELO moe) by remt25.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 142096504; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:05:59 -0400 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'Kent Stewart'" , "'ODHIAMBO Washington'" Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:05:48 -0500 Message-ID: <003001c37014$6aa06820$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <200308311500.29938.kstewart@owt.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: scripting the buildworld/installworld process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:06:01 -0000 > bw w -j5 > 893.563u 311.353s 30:31.44 65.7% 1302+1591k 53927+138930io=20 > 2331pf+0w >=20 > The wall clock time is really how efficient your process is. The fact=20 > that your user time or sys time is faster doesn't mean much=20 > if the wall=20 > clock time is 1/3 longer.=20 Wall clock? Would that be 30:31.44 from above? > I think that once you have it setup, I will probably make my=20 > KISS simple=20 > script more complicated :). I have one machine that the mouse doesn't=20 Glad to share, if that's what you mean. After re-reading your page about scripting the buildworld, I see an opportunity to test my script. =20 I never thought about putting /usr/src and /usr/obj on different HDD's. I have 2 ATAPI HDD in my box, on different IDE busses, so that should work out well. I'll also need to adjust some slice sizes as well. How much space do you recommend for /var if I'm logging like you do? It's currently: Disk1 -=20 / 100M swap 256M /var 200M /usr about 1.8G Disk2 -=20 /disk2 7.8G So I assume /usr/obj should be on the second HDD? About how much space should I reserve? Looks like I should also adjust my script to remove the -j4, eh? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 16:40:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BD416A4C0 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out006.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D6F43FAF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:40:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.160.1.150]) by out006.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030831234025.OHZC5302.out006.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:40:25 -0500 Received: from keyslapper.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7VNeTUc043860 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:40:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by keyslapper.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h7VNeSB5043859 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:40:28 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20030831234028.GA7528@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out006.verizon.net from [68.160.1.150] at Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:40:25 -0500 Subject: multimedia/MMX, Celeron CPU, and the kernel config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:40:29 -0000 Hey all. I've just installed the mplayer and mplayerxp ports for video support. I've never quite had it right with aviplay and plaympeg, but I never quite understood why. Well, when I run mplayer, I get the following: CPU: Intel Celeron A Mendocino/Pentium II Dixon (Family: 6, Stepping: 0) Detected cache-line size is 32 bytes CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0 Compiled with Runtime CPU Detection - WARNING - this is not optimal! To get best performance, recompile MPlayer with --disable-runtime-cpudetection And mplayerxp gives the following: CPU vendor name: GenuineIntel max cpuid level: 2 CPU: Intel Celeron A Mendocino/Pentium II Dixon (Type: 6, Stepping: 0) MMX supported but disabled CPUflags: Type: 6 MMX: 0 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0 Compiled for x86 CPU with features: 3DNow 3DNowEx SSE So I'm confused as to whether I've got the best configuration for my custom kernel. Is there a way I can discover the exact model of my cpu without cracking the case? I'm running: 4.8-RELEASE #0: built Sat Apr 12, 2003. The boot process logs the following: CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (399.12-MHz 686-class CPU) The machine is a Dell Optiplex G1, that was built several years ago, and given to me by my employer in a surplus lottery almost 2 years ago. I've put a new hard drive and video card in it, but that's about it. AFAIK, the machine had been unmodified before I got it. BTW, I have the following enabled in my kernel config: ################################### machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident KEYSLAPPER maxusers 0 options INET options INET6 options FFS options FFS_ROOT options SOFTUPDATES options MFS options MD_ROOT options NFS options NFS_ROOT options MSDOSFS options CD9660 options CD9660_ROOT options PROCFS options COMPAT_43 options SCSI_DELAY=15000 options UCONSOLE options USERCONFIG options VISUAL_USERCONFIG options KTRACE options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM options P1003_1B options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV options NSWAPDEV=1 options USER_LDT options ATA_STATIC_ID options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=200 options IPDIVERT Plus of course, the various devices. There is no SCSI card in the machine at the time, so I don't know if the SCSI_DELAY option makes any difference. I have found a few other options I'm not sure about, the CPU_PPRO2CELERON, CPU_L2_LATENCY, and CPU_ENABLE_SSE options. I'm just not sure if they apply in my specific case. I'm thinking the CPU_ENABLE_SSE option does, but before I go to the bother of changing my kernel config and rebuilding, I'd like to know if it is going to make even a little difference. Can anyone give me a pointer? Anything will be welcome, whether a URL, or a direct indication. Thanks! Lou -- Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ We can defeat gravity. The problem is the paperwork involved. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 17:04:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839DD16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merle.it.northwestern.edu (merle.it.northwestern.edu [129.105.16.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA8D43FDF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:04:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r-militante@northwestern.edu) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by merle.it.northwestern.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h8104pKw014366 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:04:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from merle.it.northwestern.edu (darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu [129.105.51.23]) by merle.it.northwestern.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma014309; Sun, 31 Aug 03 19:04:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:56:16 -0500 From: Redmond Militante To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030831235616.GA49368@darkpossum> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Sender: redmond@darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu X-URL: http://darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1 X-DSA-and-ElGamal-Fingerprint: 2AA2 E78E A6FC 9144 3534 39A2 EE0F 8D26 5FDF 481D Subject: need advice: core dumps during buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Redmond Militante List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:04:53 -0000 --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all i am having trouble trying to cvsup a 5_1-RELEASE machine i'm at the 'cd /usr/src/ make buildworld' stage. i can't run 'make buildwor= ld' successfully on this machine. i'm able to on my other 5_1-RELEASE machine (although it's different hardware...). the buildworld seems to fail at different points randomly. for ex., the most current kernel core dump/error= i get when trying to complete this operation is Illegal instruction(core dumped) ****Error code 132 stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/objformat ***Error code 1 stop in /usr/src/usr.bin. ***Error code 1... Aug 28 12:30:39 host kernel : pid 61508 (make), uid 0: exited on signal 4 (= core +dumped) my hardware: dell optiplex gx250 p4 2.4 ghz 500 mhz ram FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 #1 -i was advised that problems like these most often are a result of bad ram.= i ran memtest on this machine, it found no errors. i ran dell hardware dia= gnostics on this machine, also found no errors. i pull each stick of ram se= parately - the buildworld problem reappeared no matter which stick of ram i= s in the machine, or which ram slot on the motherboard it's plugged into. one thing to note is that, before i wiped this machine and reinstalled 5_1,= this machine cvsupped flawlessly for a year as a 4x-RELEASE machine, with = the same ram. i'm hoping that there's something else i can try before wiping/reinstalling= 5_1. i'm not even sure if reinstalling will fix the problem.=20 if anyone has any words of advice, i'd appreciate it thanks --=20 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Thu Aug 28 12:42:04 CDT 2= 003 6:55PM up 3 days, 5:53, 3 users, load averages: 0.81, 0.54, 0.33 =20 Individualists unite! =20 --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/Uosf7g+NJl/fSB0RAtkVAJ43eAGtURGscSR3sXFD/ivblOSiaQCdFEsQ xKSgr5LRNqfNr2ueyucUpVg= =RTzP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 17:35:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076AF16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net [65.194.254.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3242943FAF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:35:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dragoncrest@voyager.net) Received: from j2v6e9.voyager.net (testbox [192.168.0.4]) h7VJeBKh080371 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:40:11 GMT (envelope-from dragoncrest@voyager.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030901084153.020e3110@pop.voyager.net> X-Sender: dragoncrest@pop.voyager.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 08:44:28 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Dragoncrest In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030831101117.00a32500@pop.voyager.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: Using Digital Video Out under FBD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:35:14 -0000 I'm guessing by the relative degree of silence on this that this isn't supported on Freebsd yet? All I need is a simple answer one way or another. If it's not, I'll leave it at that. If it is, I'll keep searching. Links to FAQ's would be useful, but just a yes or no will suffice at this point. I'm wanting to export the video to VHS and possibly preview it on a TV because I'm doing a digital media presentation and I don't want to haul that beat of a windows box I have around with me to the presentation. I'd rather take my SFF with me, but that's running Freebsd using a GF3 ti200 card, which presents me with my problem. Thanks for any help on this at all. At 10:13 AM 8/31/03 -0700, Dragoncrest wrote: > Hi all. I went searching around tonight trying to find > information on how to do Digital Video out on my GF3 ti200 under Freebsd, > but found nothing. The only link that came up in my search had nothing > to do with what I wanted to do. What I'm wanting to do is to use the DV > (digital video) out jack to export video from my computer to a VCR and a > TV. Just wondering if it will work as is in a plug and go configuration, > or is there something special I have to do? Pointers, guides or > suggestions welcome. Thanks. > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 17:37:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699BA16A4C0 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from finch.st (12-253-50-25.client.attbi.com [12.253.50.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923ED43FF9 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:37:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaron@finch.st) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=webmail.finch.st) by finch.st with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19tchV-0005Ur-4K for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:37:45 -0600 From: "Aaron Dalton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:37:44 -0600 Message-Id: <20030901003612.M59789@finch.st> In-Reply-To: <200308311244.11670.kstewart@owt.com> References: <200308310816.29305.aaron@finch.st> <200308311244.11670.kstewart@owt.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.00 20030405 X-OriginatingIP: 208.38.59.90 (aaron) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Failed-HELO: YES!!! Subject: Re: /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lXfont X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:37:47 -0000 On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:44:11 -0700, Kent Stewart wrote > On Sunday 31 August 2003 07:16 am, Aaron Dalton wrote: > > Please excuse my ignorance. I cvsup'd my ports tree and used > > portupgrade to upgrade everything but I can't get > > XFree86-FontServer-4.3.0 or Clients to install due to the following > > error after making: > > Where is this library "Xfont" supposed to be? Thank you so much for > > your time. > > It was installed by -libraries and deleted when you updated -server. > It is no longer a part of -server and you have to reinstall - > libraries again. You shouldn't have any problem like this in the future. > > Kent > > > > > Cheers! > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html Thanks so much for your help! I'm sorry for not being completely up to date with the Ports list. I'll do the reinstall tonight. Sure appreciate your time! Cheers! -- Aaron Dalton aaron@finch.st http://aaron.finch.st From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 17:45:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4870916A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECD343F3F for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:45:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h810j4216930; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:45:04 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: "Charles Howse" , "'ODHIAMBO Washington'" Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:45:03 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <003001c37014$6aa06820$04fea8c0@moe> In-Reply-To: <003001c37014$6aa06820$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308311745.03944.kstewart@owt.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scripting the buildworld/installworld process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:45:30 -0000 On Sunday 31 August 2003 04:05 pm, Charles Howse wrote: > > bw w -j5 > > 893.563u 311.353s 30:31.44 65.7% 1302+1591k 53927+138930io > > 2331pf+0w > > > > The wall clock time is really how efficient your process is. The > > fact that your user time or sys time is faster doesn't mean much if > > the wall > > clock time is 1/3 longer. > > Wall clock? Would that be 30:31.44 from above? > > > I think that once you have it setup, I will probably make my > > KISS simple > > script more complicated :). I have one machine that the mouse > > doesn't > > Glad to share, if that's what you mean. That is what I meant. You learn by trying things. > > After re-reading your page about scripting the buildworld, I see an > opportunity to test my script. > > I never thought about putting /usr/src and /usr/obj on different > HDD's. I have 2 ATAPI HDD in my box, on different IDE busses, so that > should work out well. > I'll also need to adjust some slice sizes as well. > > How much space do you recommend for /var if I'm logging like you do? > It's currently: > Disk1 - > / 100M > swap 256M > /var 200M > /usr about 1.8G > Disk2 - > /disk2 7.8G My smallest HD is 13GB and the system had 4 of them. My typical system is on a 3x30GB ATA-100/133 HDs. Since, I have a lot of free space, my partitions are typically 1.5GB. FreeBSD 4.x creates an ../obj of around 300-400MB; however, FreeBSD 5.x produces a 700-800MB. I like to mount a partition as /usr/obj and /usr/src. The builds work just fine with a link to /disk2/obj as /usr/obj. The reason for separate partition is that I have messed up my system to the point that I had to nfs_mount /usr/src and /usr/obj from a different machine. If I mount /disk2/obj as /usr/obj, the make installworld dies because it knows the true path to the obj files. If I redo a system, I create a mount point as /usr/obj. Until then, I just link /usr/obj to /usr2/obj and etc. I think that just moving /usr/obj to your 2nd HD as a link would separate the I/O. For FreeBSD 5.x, you need a lot more space in /. When I installed 5.0-release, I created / as 500MB and it is about 24% used. If you have to manually download some tarballs, you can chew up space in a hurry. The files in /var/log/build can fill up a fs really fast because each system update is around 7-8MB. Since I log everything from cvsup to "make index", I fill up space in a hurry :). If something breaks, I want to be able to point to the commit that broke it. > > So I assume /usr/obj should be on the second HDD? > About how much space should I reserve? > > Looks like I should also adjust my script to remove the -j4, eh? Like you said, play with it. I use write caching and softupdates. They all made it faster. Depending on your system, you may find that -j is faster. From my experience, all of my systems (6 of various speeds and cpus), do a build world faster without a -j. When I was doing benchmarks on a Cray X/MP with 100MB/s & 1000MB/s data channels to stripped disks capable of 20MB/s continuous, write caching doubled the throughput of the system. The gain was not obvious up front and everyone was surprised by the result. After we saw it, it was a shoulder shrug because it appeared obvious that you want a process to have faster access to data that it needs than forcing it to save processed data first. In the commercial world, protecting the processed data has a much higher assigned value. I went for speed. If someone said 4-stable was broken, I wanted to be able to test the builds in less than 30 minutes. I also didn't want to spend a lot of money to be able to do that :). BTW, those build times all had setiathome running in the background. Having it running in the background really doesn't change the elapsed time too much exept in 5.x. I kill seti before I do a timed run on it. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 15:58:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131F716A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.fre.skanova.net (smtp1.fre.skanova.net [195.67.227.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFC343FF2 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:58:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johan.-.engstrom@telia.com) Received: from sheriffe-f5593a (h84n1fls31o818.telia.com [213.65.12.84]) by smtp1.fre.skanova.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h7VMwKit003095 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:58:22 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3F527DA5.000003.01312@sheriffe-f5593a> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:58:45 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_XHAIG6G0000000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail (2001184) From: "Johan Engström" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-Priority: 3 To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:55:38 -0700 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: hi there X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:58:26 -0000 --------------Boundary-00=_XHAIG6G0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, i=B4m new to freebsd ... i have a little question for you. if i wanna= install a window manager how do i do that ? --------------Boundary-00=_XHAIG6G0000000000000-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 18:08:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5309A16A4C0 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bud.cc.swin.edu.au (bud.cc.swin.edu.au [136.186.1.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE1243FEA for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:08:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 1833685@bud.cc.swin.edu.au) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by bud.cc.swin.edu.au (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) id LAA38024 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:08:24 +1000 (EST) From: Amer El-Kurdi <1833685@bud.cc.swin.edu.au> X-Authentication-Warning: bud.cc.swin.edu.au: nobody set sender to 1833685@bud.cc.swin.edu.au using -f Received: from 139.a.012.mel.iprimus.net.au ( [139.a.012.mel.iprimus.net.au]) as user 1833685@bud.cc.swin.edu.au by webmail.swin.edu.au with HTTP; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:08:24 +1000 Message-ID: <1062378504.3f529c08aace2@webmail.swin.edu.au> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:08:24 +1000 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ1062378504aba6e7fd3a3258ad660b29d9f17c8cab" User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 210.50.248.139 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Installation problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 01:08:42 -0000 This message is in MIME format. ---MOQ1062378504aba6e7fd3a3258ad660b29d9f17c8cab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, my name is Amer and I'm studing at Swinburne University of Technology Australia. My final year project involves the use of FreeBSD. After following the steps posted on your website I was still not able to install FreeBSD. The installation process reaches the stage of Device Probing and then i get a message that says resetting devices and nothing happens after that point. I have 2 hard drives on my computer one is running XP and the other is formated and ready to install FreeBSD on it(I can do that right?) anyway I've included a list of the IRQ's and the I/O with this email the version of FreeBSD that I'm trying to install is 4.8 Thank you for your help Amer ---MOQ1062378504aba6e7fd3a3258ad660b29d9f17c8cab-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 19:03:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EFF16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A47B43F93 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:03:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jester@panix.com) Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6555488A8; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jester@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p2/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id h8123kK03400; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:03:46 -0400 From: Jesse Sheidlower To: Hendrik Hasenbein Message-ID: <20030901020346.GA3102@panix.com> References: <20030831051348.GA10168@panix.com> <20030831052441.GF7020@dan.emsphone.com> <20030831053731.GA12021@panix.com> <3F51C519.30408@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F51C519.30408@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: xterm setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 02:03:48 -0000 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 11:51:21AM +0200, Hendrik Hasenbein wrote: > Jesse Sheidlower wrote: > >>>I recently upgraded my desktop to Gnome2, and of the various things > >>>that are causing me grief, the biggest is what's happened to my xterm > >>>windows. Now, after the change, it does three things differently and > >>>annoyingly: (1) it defaults to black/colored text on a white > >>>background; (2) it doesn't have a scrollbar of any sort; and (3) > >>>there's no menubar with basic "File"/"Edit" etc. options. > > Sounds like the gnome terminal or eterm. The standard xterm doesn't give > you a menubar. Thanks for this and to others who replied. I've been so confused by this that I dropped by the office to take a look at my Linux (RH 7.3) box, only to discover that yes, I had been running gnome-terminal there. I've looked at the various options and decided that eterm looks best and is easiest to get to the way I want, so I'm going with that for now. Thanks for the various suggestions. Best, Jesse Sheidlower From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 19:43:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F6416A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA10543F75 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from mail.messagingengine.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F3F15F26D; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 10.202.2.150 ([10.202.2.150] helo=mail.messagingengine.com) by messagingengine.com with SMTP; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:43:27 -0400 X-Epoch: 1062384207 X-Sasl-enc: 2DXF5hc7UrENDJxwKDI8Ag Received: from jud.dyndns.org (dialup-67.74.79.243.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [67.74.79.243]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B3615F285; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:43:23 -0400 (EDT) To: =?utf-8?B?Sm9oYW4gRW5nc3Ry77+9bQ==?= , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3F527DA5.000003.01312@sheriffe-f5593a> Message-ID: From: Jud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:43:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3F527DA5.000003.01312@sheriffe-f5593a> User-Agent: Opera7.20/FreeBSD M2 build 449 Subject: Re: hi there X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 02:43:31 -0000 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:58:45 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time), Johan Engstr�m wrote: > hi, i´m new to freebsd ... i have a little question for you. if i wanna > install a window manager how do i do that ? For the long version, the following two articles are good references: Short version: # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/$WINDOW MANAGER # make install clean Jud P.S. More people will look at your questions if your subject lines describe the contents more specifically. "hi there" could easily have been spam - some does get through to this list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 20:10:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4907216A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net (mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net [63.231.195.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 352F243FF3 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:10:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stratus@swcic.net) Received: (qmail 68132 invoked by uid 0); 1 Sep 2003 03:10:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (63.231.195.5) by mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net with QMQP; 1 Sep 2003 03:10:56 -0000 Received: from vdsl-130-13-124-27.phnx.uswest.net (HELO centerpoint) (130.13.124.27) by mpls-pop-05.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 1 Sep 2003 03:10:56 -0000 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:11:02 -0700 Message-ID: <000801c37036$ad0f6cc0$6401a8c0@centerpoint> From: "Jim Stratus" To: ircservices@ircservices.za.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Compilation issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jim Stratus List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 03:10:58 -0000 This isn't services related but I am getting this with many compilations = I try (mysql, gcc, etc) configure: error: Your compiler cannot convert a longlong value to a = float! If you are using gcc 2.8.# you should upgrade to egcs 1.0.3 or newer and = try again usr/include/stdlib.h:143: warning: ISO C89 does not support `long long' Anyone know how I can go about fixing this? I tried installing the = newest versions of egcs and GCC but I get errors trying to install = those. I run FreeBSD 5.1 Jim Stratus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 20:25:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E46516A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twix.hotpop.com (twix.hotpop.com [204.57.55.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9C143FCB for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:25:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jayliu@Hotpop.com) Received: from hotpop.com (kubrick.hotpop.com [204.57.55.16]) by twix.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8634A6A6324 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 03:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from destiny (user-0cev7mn.cable.mindspring.com [24.239.158.215]) by smtp-3.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A18156A779C for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 03:25:17 +0000 (UTC) From: "Jay Liu" To: Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:34:05 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C37018.5DD14E30" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Meet with X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 03:25:25 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C37018.5DD14E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C37018.5DD14E30-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 20:37:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E3316A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A17B43FCB for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:37:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from grimoire.chen.org.nz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chen.org.nz (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h813bOk7038556; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:37:24 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc@grimoire.chen.org.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by grimoire.chen.org.nz (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h813bLtK038555; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:37:21 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:37:21 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Redmond Militante Message-ID: <20030901033721.GA38515@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <20030831235616.GA49368@darkpossum> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030831235616.GA49368@darkpossum> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: need advice: core dumps during buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 03:37:27 -0000 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 06:56:16PM -0500, Redmond Militante wrote: > hi all > > i am having trouble trying to cvsup a 5_1-RELEASE machine > > i'm at the 'cd /usr/src/ make buildworld' stage. i can't run 'make buildworld' > successfully on this machine. i'm able to on my other 5_1-RELEASE machine > (although it's different hardware...). the buildworld seems to fail at > different points randomly. for ex., the most current kernel core dump/error i > get when trying to complete this operation is > > Illegal instruction(core dumped) > ****Error code 132 Check your make.conf flags. You're very likely using some odd CPU specific flags. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 21:04:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB64316A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.netcabo.pt (smtp.netcabo.pt [212.113.174.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9753E43FF3 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:04:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from RicardoMesquita@netcabo.pt) Received: from netcabo.pt ([81.84.157.10]) by smtp.netcabo.pt with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:02:20 +0100 Message-ID: <3F52C558.4020503@netcabo.pt> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 05:04:40 +0100 From: Ricardo Mesquita User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030708 X-Accept-Language: pt, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20030831234028.GA7528@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20030831234028.GA7528@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2003 04:02:20.0653 (UTC) FILETIME=[D77411D0:01C3703D] Subject: Re: multimedia/MMX, Celeron CPU, and the kernel config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 04:04:48 -0000 Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Hey all. I've just installed the mplayer and mplayerxp ports for > video support. I've never quite had it right with aviplay and > plaympeg, but I never quite understood why. > > Well, when I run mplayer, I get the following: > > CPU: Intel Celeron A Mendocino/Pentium II Dixon (Family: 6, Stepping: 0) > Detected cache-line size is 32 bytes > CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0 > Compiled with Runtime CPU Detection - WARNING - this is not optimal! > To get best performance, recompile MPlayer with --disable-runtime-cpudetection > > And mplayerxp gives the following: > CPU vendor name: GenuineIntel max cpuid level: 2 > CPU: Intel Celeron A Mendocino/Pentium II Dixon (Type: 6, Stepping: 0) > MMX supported but disabled > CPUflags: Type: 6 MMX: 0 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0 > Compiled for x86 CPU with features: 3DNow 3DNowEx SSE > > So I'm confused as to whether I've got the best configuration for my > custom kernel. Is there a way I can discover the exact model of my > cpu without cracking the case? > .... > Thanks! > Lou Check x86info regards, ricardo mesquita From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 21:38:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E215316A4C0 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msv02-kent-syd.comindico.com.au (msv02-kent-syd.comindico.com.au [203.194.29.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8495C43FAF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:38:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dlodeiro@inspired.net.au) Received: from .dl.com (dsl-82.129.240.220.lns02-wick-bne.dsl.comindico.com.au [220.240.129.82])h814bUv09661 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:37:30 +1000 (EST) From: David L To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:36:39 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309011436.39077.dlodeiro@inspired.net.au> Subject: Cant write to /etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 04:38:46 -0000 I have just been tring to use sms_client and it gives me an error that it cant write to /etc. When I try to # touch /etc/smslock it gives me # touch: /etc/smslock: Read-only file system It wont even let me edit rc.conf I had a look at the permisions of /etc and they are fine drwxr-xr-x The only thing I can think of is that I recently set up loader.conf in order to be able to load the module for my audigy card. So I had a look through loader.conf and it doesnt have anything about loader.conf Can anyone help ? Thanks David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 21:43:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD88C16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ctb-mesg3.saix.net (ctb-mesg3.saix.net [196.25.240.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64F343FDF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:43:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from savage@savage.za.org) Received: from netphere.megalan.co.za (rrba-bras-mp45.telkom-ipnet.co.za [165.165.24.45]) by ctb-mesg3.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BB916AB for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:43:38 +0200 (SAST) Received: from [192.168.1.29] (helo=genocide) by netphere.megalan.co.za with asmtp (Exim 4.22) id 19tgXS-0000JM-po for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 06:43:38 +0200 Message-ID: <001201c37043$9bf377d0$1d01a8c0@genocide> From: "Chris Knipe" To: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:43:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: pppd / poptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Chris Knipe List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 04:43:47 -0000 Lo all, Very arb and weird problem... I've followed all the docs that google = could return (they all mostly the same in any case), and yeah... My PPTP server *does* work.. As long as I don't terminate more than one connection at a time to the server *shock horror*. For some reason (and = I suspect I know why), ppp insist on only using one device for all the incoming PPTP connections from poptop. Obviously not right, and err, = ja.. I need to get this fixed... Very urgently as well. My streamlined ppp.conf: pptp: accept dns allow mode direct disable chap disable mschap disable mschapv2 enable lqr enable pap set device localhost:pptp set dial set dns 192.168.1.1 set ifaddr 192.168.1.1 10.255.255.1-10.255.255.254 255.255.255.255 set log Connect set login set radius /etc/ppp/ppp.radius set server /tmp/loop "" 0177 set timeout 0 Now, I suspect that it is only using one device (regardless of the = number of connections), due to the device (socket) specification. But frankly, if = I don't specify it what device to use, it won't even be able to operate a single pptp connection. Any advice is greatly appreciated. I need to get this resolved asap. I didn't send any logs from ppp.... PPP and the PPTP connections works = 100% - even with Radius. The problem is purely that PPP always uses the same device, regardless of the amount of connections (ala tun0). My kernel = does have allot of tunX devices, and ifconfig -a lists at least two = available. Still, ppp only uses the one. I'm sad to say, but if I can't get this to work, I'm going to have to be forced to scrap my BSD box for a W2K Adv server... *sigh*, at least = their RAS server works okish... Thanks, me From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 21:48:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDD216A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com (ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com [65.24.7.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9B243FE0 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (dhcp065-031-041-029.woh.rr.com [65.31.41.29]) by ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with SMTP id h814mo9Z014659 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701c37042$b08eb200$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "dave" To: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:37:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: software raid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 04:48:52 -0000 Hello, Got a 5.1 machine i'm going to do a reinstall on. I'd like to implement software raid on it at least until i can get a promise IDE raid card, which ones have user's had best successes with? My question pertaining to software raid is is it possible to set it up during the install or do i have to do the install normally then initiate raid? And which would be better, ccd or vinum? Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 23:26:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5ED16A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from one.mteege.de (one.mteege.de [81.2.131.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E39143F75 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matthias-fbsdquest@mteege.de) Received: (qmail 12284 invoked by uid 66); 1 Sep 2003 06:26:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 322 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2003 06:23:10 -0000 Received: from gic.mteege.de (HELO mteege.de) (192.168.153.10) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Sep 2003 06:23:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 98966 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Sep 2003 06:22:18 -0000 To: dave References: <000701c37042$b08eb200$0200a8c0@satellite> From: Matthias Teege Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 08:22:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <000701c37042$b08eb200$0200a8c0@satellite> (dave's message of "Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:37:02 -0400") Message-ID: <864qzx110l.fsf@gic.mteege.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: software raid X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 06:26:22 -0000 "dave" writes: > ones have user's had best successes with? My question pertaining to software > raid is is it possible to set it up during the install or do i have to do > the install normally then initiate raid? And which would be better, ccd or > vinum? If I use vinum I setup a minimal system with only a root and a vinum partition. After that you can setup your drive with vinum. There are a lot of docs arround there. Use vinum for that task. Matthias -- Matthias Teege -- http://www.mteege.de make world not war PGP-Key auf Anfrage From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 23:52:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9856916A4BF for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54A243FDD for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:52:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from grimoire.chen.org.nz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chen.org.nz (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h816pxk7038949; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:52:00 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc@grimoire.chen.org.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by grimoire.chen.org.nz (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h816pxJR038948; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:51:59 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:51:59 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: David L Message-ID: <20030901065159.GA38899@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <200309011436.39077.dlodeiro@inspired.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200309011436.39077.dlodeiro@inspired.net.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cant write to /etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 06:52:03 -0000 On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 02:36:39PM +1000, David L wrote: > I have just been tring to use sms_client and it gives me an error that it cant > write to /etc. > When I try to # touch /etc/smslock > > it gives me > > # touch: /etc/smslock: Read-only file system There's your error. Your need to: # mount -w / -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- When all else fails, RTFM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 31 23:53:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A120E16A4C0 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E46F43FBD for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2003 23:53:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp104-131.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net [150.101.104.131])h816reB1088084; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:23:40 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: At home To: David L , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:23:40 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200309011436.39077.dlodeiro@inspired.net.au> In-Reply-To: <200309011436.39077.dlodeiro@inspired.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200309011623.40414.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: Cant write to /etc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 06:53:44 -0000 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:06, David L wrote: > I have just been tring to use sms_client and it gives me an error that = it > cant write to /etc. > When I try to # touch /etc/smslock > > it gives me > > # touch: /etc/smslock: Read-only file system > > It wont even let me edit rc.conf > > I had a look at the permisions of /etc and they are fine > > drwxr-xr-x > > The only thing I can think of is that I recently set up loader.conf in > order to be able to load the module for my audigy card. So I had a look > through loader.conf and it doesnt have anything about loader.conf > It seems that somehow your root fs is mounted read only. This can happen if an fsck check failed at boot up with a request to run = fsck=20 manually. Or perhaps somehow you booted into single user mode. Try rebooting -- and read any messages!! Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 00:14:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509DC16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mf1.bredband.net (mf1.bredband.net [195.54.106.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE13A43FD7 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:14:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peder.blom@bredband.net) Received: from Hecate.my.hell ([213.113.217.132]) by mf1.bredband.net with SMTP id <20030901071428.BUVH22258.mf1@Hecate.my.hell>; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:14:28 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:14:14 +0200 From: Peder Blom To: stan Message-Id: <20030901091414.4c85b5d7.peder.blom@bredband.net> In-Reply-To: <20030831011352.GA16089@teddy.fas.com> References: <20030831011352.GA16089@teddy.fas.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: playing a DVD with mplayer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 07:14:31 -0000 On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:13:52 -0400 stan wrote: > I just got a new notebook with a DVD drive. I compiled mplayer from > the ports. > > Now I want to play a smaple VD that I have. What do I need to do to > mount the DVD? > > -- You don't have to mount it. Just run mplayer. As an example, this is what I do to view chapter 5 of title 6 with japanese sound and english subtitles in fullscreen mode: mplayer -dvd 6 -dvd-device /dev/acd0c -alang ja -slang en -fs -cache 8192 -chapter 5 See "man mplayer" for (many!) more options. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 00:33:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199A916A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de (antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de [134.102.176.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871EC43FE1 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 00:33:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rebehn@ant.uni-bremen.de) Received: from taipeh.ant.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.176.3] helo=ant.uni-bremen.de ident=rebehn) by antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19tjBy-000PxY-06; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 09:33:38 +0200 Message-ID: <3F52F651.1020708@ant.uni-bremen.de> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 09:33:37 +0200 From: Heinrich Rebehn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <3F4B4633.1010807@ant.uni-bremen.de> <20030826045512.N503@njamn8or.no-ip.org> <3F4E0715.3040402@ant.uni-bremen.de> <20030828141020.GC21213@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <3F4F1F7E.6020609@ant.uni-bremen.de> <3F4F8036.7030207@mac.com> <1062186396.3f4fad9c9d920@www.ant.uni-bremen.de> <3F50CCAF.5040301@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <3F50CCAF.5040301@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question on CVS Branches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 07:33:41 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > rebehn@antsrv1.ant.uni-bremen.de wrote: > >> Quoting Chuck Swiger : >> >>> The documentation for CVS is not especially well-known for being >>> inclusive. Are you using CVS over SSH or in pserver mode? The first >>> case requires you to >>> set up password-less SSH authentication via ssh-keygen, the latter >>> uses the "cvs >>> login" mechanism. >> >> >> I use CVSROOT=:pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.de.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs. >> Is it possible to specify the password on the command line with cvs >> login (it >> isn't secret anyhow)? > > > 6-sec% touch ~/.cvspass > 7-sec% cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.de.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs login > Logging in to :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.de.freebsd.org:2401/home/ncvs > CVS password: > > [ Use "anoncvs" for the password. ] > > 8-sec% cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.de.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co src > cvs server: Updating src > U src/COPYRIGHT > U src/MAINTAINERS > U src/Makefile > U src/Makefile.inc1 > U src/README > U src/UPDATING > cvs server: Updating src/bin > ^C... This looks like you still have to type in the password from the terminal. I would like to update the source each night from a cron job. Is there really no way to do that? With OpenBSD i can simply do: # export CVSROOT=anoncvs@anoncvs.de.openbsd.org:/cvs # cvs co -rOPENBSD_3_3 src/sys cvs server: Updating src/sys U src/sys/Makefile cvs server: Updating src/sys/adosfs U src/sys/adosfs/adlookup.c U src/sys/adosfs/adosfs.h U src/sys/adosfs/adutil.c U src/sys/adosfs/advfsops.c U src/sys/adosfs/advnops.c cvs server: Updating src/sys/altq ^C without the need to type in a password. Seems i have to use CVSUP on FreeBSD.. - Heinrich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 01:09:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F8E16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 01:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (mailout.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.136.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F51E43FE0 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 01:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hhasenbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (antipasto.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.131.113]) (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6/TechFak/2003/04/16/pk) with ESMTP id h8188uG05845; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:08:57 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <3F52FE97.1060300@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 10:08:55 +0200 From: Hendrik Hasenbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030709 X-Accept-Language: de, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dragoncrest References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030901084153.020e3110@pop.voyager.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030901084153.020e3110@pop.voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using Digital Video Out under FBD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 08:09:09 -0000 Dragoncrest wrote: > I'm guessing by the relative degree of silence on this that this > isn't supported on Freebsd yet? All I need is a simple answer one way > or another. If it's not, I'll leave it at that. If it is, I'll keep > searching. Links to FAQ's would be useful, but just a yes or no will > suffice at this point. I'm wanting to export the video to VHS and > possibly preview it on a TV because I'm doing a digital media > presentation and I don't want to haul that beat of a windows box I have > around with me to the presentation. I'd rather take my SFF with me, but > that's running Freebsd using a GF3 ti200 card, which presents me with my > problem. > > Thanks for any help on this at all. The nvidia-driver claims to be able to do it, but I couldn't get any video out. Don't know if my adapter is broken, because cross test with windoze gave me the same result. Hendrik -- Ahhh there's only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 02:57:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB92816A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 02:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com (mailout11.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A282244008 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 02:57:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alexander.Farber@t-online.de) Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19tlRH-0004cU-03; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 11:57:35 +0200 Received: from pref.my.domain (GQbG36ZLZeo45DtKvljcmPIaG7Uaj79gVlrUr0XQwpIDuvZwkD8J8U@[217.225.53.140]) by fwd11.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19tlR5-2Bq9w00; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:57:23 +0200 Received: from pref.my.domain (alex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pref.my.domain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h819rDsI005484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:53:13 GMT Received: (from alex@localhost) by pref.my.domain (8.12.8/8.12.9/Submit) id h819rB6P015299 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:53:11 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:53:11 +0000 From: Alexander.Farber@t-online.de (Alexander Farber) To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030901095311.GA13709@pref.my.domain> References: <3F4B4633.1010807@ant.uni-bremen.de> <20030826045512.N503@njamn8or.no-ip.org> <3F4E0715.3040402@ant.uni-bremen.de> <20030828141020.GC21213@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <3F4F1F7E.6020609@ant.uni-bremen.de> <3F4F8036.7030207@mac.com> <1062186396.3f4fad9c9d920@www.ant.uni-bremen.de> <3F50CCAF.5040301@mac.com> <3F52F651.1020708@ant.uni-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F52F651.1020708@ant.uni-bremen.de> X-Url: X-Operating-System: OpenBSD 3.3 i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Seen: false X-ID: GQbG36ZLZeo45DtKvljcmPIaG7Uaj79gVlrUr0XQwpIDuvZwkD8J8U Subject: Re: Question on CVS Branches X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 09:57:38 -0000 On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:33:37AM +0200, Heinrich Rebehn wrote: > This looks like you still have to type in the password from the terminal. > I would like to update the source each night from a cron job. > Is there really no way to do that? > > With OpenBSD i can simply do: > > # export CVSROOT=anoncvs@anoncvs.de.openbsd.org:/cvs > # cvs co -rOPENBSD_3_3 src/sys > cvs server: Updating src/sys > U src/sys/Makefile > cvs server: Updating src/sys/adosfs > U src/sys/adosfs/adlookup.c > U src/sys/adosfs/adosfs.h > U src/sys/adosfs/adutil.c > U src/sys/adosfs/advfsops.c > U src/sys/adosfs/advnops.c > cvs server: Updating src/sys/altq > ^C > > without the need to type in a password. > > Seems i have to use CVSUP on FreeBSD.. No, I use cvs to update FreeBSD and OpenBSD on my dual boot PC and both work fine and without having to type the password. Maybe remove ~/.cvs* and try again with: cvs -d $CVSROOT login cvs -d $CVSROOT -q up ...... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 04:24:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E414816A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 04:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailscan1.newmedia.no (mailscan1.newmedia.no [212.71.66.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 328CA44001 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 04:24:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arvinn@sandakeronline.com) Received: (qmail 4860 invoked by uid 105); 1 Sep 2003 11:24:30 -0000 Received: from arvinn@sandakeronline.com by mailscan1 with qmail-scanner-1.01 (iscan: v3.1/v5.420-0629/994/45332. uvscan: v4.1.50/v4290. sweep: 2.4/3.47. hbedv: 6.2.0.3. fsecure: 4.08/2030/2003-08-29/2003-08-28/2002-11-17. . Clean. Processed in 10.897342 secs); 01 Sep 2003 11:24:30 -0000 Received: from evercom.sandakeronline.com (HELO webmail.sandakeronline.com) (www@212.71.68.21) by mailscan1.newmedia.no with SMTP; 1 Sep 2003 11:24:19 -0000 Received: from 212.71.64.140 (SquirrelMail authenticated user arvinn) by webmail.sandakeronline.com with HTTP; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:24:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4438.212.71.64.140.1062415470.squirrel@webmail.sandakeronline.com> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:24:30 +0200 (CEST) From: "Arvinn" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: ipfw with four interfaces X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 11:24:34 -0000 This FreeBSD 4.x with ipfw1 have four interfaces: fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet w.x.y.81 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast w.x.y.95 xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 xl1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 172.16.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.16.0.255 xl2 is the interface that is connected back-to-back with the router. As you can see, hosts on xl0 and xl1 need to get translated in order to get on the Internet. The dmz is for a few web-servers, a mailserver and a vpn-gateway I will be setting up later. I have a hard time getting this design to actually work with deny ip from any to any in the bottom of the ruleset. I thought my tcp/ip skills were proper but after I started dealing with this I feel like a complete noob. Here are the rules I haave written so far: # more fwrules fwcmd="/sbin/ipfw" extif="xl2" dmzif="fxp0" lanif="xl0" motorif="xl1" $fwcmd -f flush ### $fwcmd add 100 allow all from any to any via lo0 $fwcmd add 200 deny all from any to 127.0.0.0/8 $fwcmd add 300 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any $fwcmd add 500 deny tcp from any to any in via any tcpflags syn,fin $fwcmd add 600 deny ip from any to any in via any frag ### $fwcmd add 900 allow tcp from an.outside.net.work to me ssh in via $extif # This one passes packets to natd. If I knew how to divert only rfc1918 addresses are passed to natd I would do that. # In the meantine I have configured natd with the unregistered-flag. $fwcmd add 950 divert natd all from any to any via $extif # Allow http to the whole dmz from Internet: $fwcmd add 1000 allow tcp from any to w.x.y.80/28 http via $extif # Allow smtp and pop3 to the mailserver from Internet: $fwcmd add 1050 allow tcp from any to w.x.y.84 smtp,pop3 via $extif # # With the following rules I want to allow all traffic between my own segments: $fwcmd add 1200 allow ip from any to any via $dmzif $fwcmd add 1250 allow ip from any to any via $lanif $fwcmd add 1300 allow ip from any to any via $motorif # Allow all traffic out to Internett: $fwcmd add 2000 allow ip from any to any out via $extif # Allow all icmp for testing purposes until I get the firewll rules working: $fwcmd add 3000 allow icmp from any to any via any # Blocking ports out to Internet that I don't like: $fwcmd add 1300 deny tcp from any to any 135-139 out via $extif $fwcmd add 1350 deny tcp from any to any 445 out via $extif ### # Blocking everything else: $fwcmd add 65000 deny ip from any to any # When I load these rules it looks like "nothing" but icmp works. The computers on the the rfc1918 addresses can't speak tcp (and probably udp as well) and the computers on the dmz can neither. I feel I don't understand this properly. There must be some basic errors with my ruleset. Will it help me to put in this at the top?: $fwcmd add 50 check-state ..and then use keep-state on all my allow rules? Can someone please: I would be greatful for all kind of answers. Arvinn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 04:40:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5797F16A4BF; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 04:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6740643F85; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 04:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from weiv@mail.ru) Received: from [217.70.108.197] (port=1026 helo=p197.bass4.sinor.ru) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 19tn2o-0005fC-00; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:40:27 +0400 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:58:43 +0700 From: Denis Troshin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Business X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <29508631.20030901165843@mail.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Ugly Huge BSD Monster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Denis Troshin List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 11:40:28 -0000 Almost every package I install requires a few other packages. This 'idea of using dependent packages' turns FreeBSD (and other unix-systems) to an ugly monster. For example, I don't need Perl or Python but a few packages I install require them. Does exist a programming under unix without these dependencies? P.S. Under Windows it is possible to write not bad applications which depend just on libraries (KERNEL32, USER32, GDI32). And these libs exist on every base system!!! Is it possible in unix? Before I thought that unix programs very compact, but they are huge! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 05:00:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7BF16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stormdbn.stormnet.co.za (stormdbn.stormnet.co.za [196.22.196.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43B243FBD for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nelis@brabys.co.za) Received: from postoffice.brabys.co.za ([192.96.48.13] helo=brabys.co.za) by stormdbn.stormnet.co.za with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19tnLm-0007y9-6B for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:00:02 +0200 Received: from [192.96.48.37] (nelis [192.96.48.37]) by brabys.co.za (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id h81BxiWd006351 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:59:44 +0200 From: Nelis Lamprecht To: FreeBSD Questions Mail List Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1062417582.90127.90.camel@enigma.8ball.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 01 Sep 2003 13:59:42 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: libc.so.3 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: nelis@brabys.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:00:05 -0000 Hi, Running a program ( Mcafee Viruscan ) and I get the following: pandora# ./uvscan /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.3" not found I'm using 4.8 Stable. Which port will give me this library ? Thanks! Nelis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 05:06:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D9E16A4D5 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web60002.mail.yahoo.com (web60002.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.116.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BDAAB43FA3 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keshav_tadimeti@yahoo.co.uk) Message-ID: <20030901120608.50156.qmail@web60002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.60.1.195] by web60002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:06:08 BST Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:06:08 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Tadimeti=20Keshav?= To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030901091414.4c85b5d7.peder.blom@bredband.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: modem setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:06:10 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:06:10 -0000 Hi Guys, I have the foll. set up 28 GB --> FreeBSD 4.5 10 GB --> Redhat 9.0 >From Redhat I use an Internet connection wizard that gives me a lot of options. I picked up the dialer option, then give the phone number to connect to my university WIndows NT server, then my login and password. Viola, I am connected to the internet. I have a Creative External modem V.90 Is there no way to do this in FreeBSD? I read the man pages (dial-in and dial-out), they are way over my head. Someone please help... TIA TK __________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 03:22:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CCD16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 03:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from may.priocom.com (may.priocom.com [213.156.65.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBC043FAF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 03:21:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mirya@ukrpost.net) Received: from webukrpost ([192.168.5.164] helo=web.ukrpost.net) by may.priocom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19tlnH-0000vY-5x for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:20:19 +0300 Message-ID: <3008964.1062411821985.JavaMail.resin@web.ukrpost.net> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:23:41 +0300 (EEST) From: =?Cp1251?B?yujw6OvrIMzo8O3l7eru?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Cp1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Ukrpost 2.0 ( Ukrpost:Forever ) X-Ukrpost-From: 193.41.88.97 (193.41.88.97) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 05:07:47 -0700 Subject: Writting PCI bus driver under 56K Lucent modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mirya@ukrpost.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 10:22:01 -0000 I need a PCI driver for my internal modem/ The best way to get it is to a= sk smbd if he/she has. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 05:07:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C409E16A4C0 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F4043F75 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:07:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: from lerlaptop.lerctr.org (lerlaptop.lerctr.org [207.158.72.14]) (authenticated bits=0)h81C7Ht1027303; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:07:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 07:07:17 -0500 From: Larry Rosenman To: nelis@brabys.co.za, FreeBSD Questions Mail List Message-ID: <29980000.1062418037@lerlaptop.lerctr.org> In-Reply-To: <1062417582.90127.90.camel@enigma.8ball.co.za> References: <1062417582.90127.90.camel@enigma.8ball.co.za> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0b6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: Re: libc.so.3 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:07:30 -0000 --On Monday, September 01, 2003 13:59:42 +0200 Nelis Lamprecht wrote: > Hi, > > Running a program ( Mcafee Viruscan ) and I get the following: > > pandora# ./uvscan > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.3" not found > > I'm using 4.8 Stable. Which port will give me this library ? set COMPAT3X=yes in /etc/make.conf, and cd /usr/src/lib/compat/compat3x.i386 make make install make clean will do it. LER > > Thanks! > > Nelis > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 05:09:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1336616A4C2 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web60002.mail.yahoo.com (web60002.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.116.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 083E543FBD for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:09:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keshav_tadimeti@yahoo.co.uk) Message-ID: <20030901120922.51380.qmail@web60002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.60.1.195] by web60002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:09:22 BST Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:09:22 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Tadimeti=20Keshav?= To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: how to mount a FAT floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:09:26 -0000 Hi guys, Sorry for sending a blank mail. How can I mount a (FAT) floppy disk that contains my favourite themes? I have /dev/fd0 directory. Is this the command: mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy? Where is the /floppy directory present? man mount_msdos does not give any examples. Thanks TK __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 05:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5369416A4FC for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-04.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE5543FF7 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:14:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbstep@tampabay.rr.com) Received: from 2416462hfc204.tampabay.rr.com (2416462hfc204.tampabay.rr.com [24.164.62.204])h81CEH6J000203 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:14:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Stephens To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:09:57 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <1062417582.90127.90.camel@enigma.8ball.co.za> In-Reply-To: <1062417582.90127.90.camel@enigma.8ball.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309010809.57836.tbstep@tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Re: libc.so.3 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:14:20 -0000 On Monday 01 September 2003 07:59 am, Nelis Lamprecht wrote: > Hi, > > Running a program ( Mcafee Viruscan ) and I get the following: > > pandora# ./uvscan > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.3" not found > > I'm using 4.8 Stable. Which port will give me this library ? > On my 4.8 I have libc.so.4 in /usr/lib. I'm not sure what put it there, but check to see what you have. If it is higher than 3, you could: #cd /usr/lib #ln -s libc.so.4 libc.so.3 See if that works. -- Todd Stephens From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 05:56:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286FD16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-03.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D6044001 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbstep@tampabay.rr.com) Received: from 2416462hfc204.tampabay.rr.com (2416462hfc204.tampabay.rr.com [24.164.62.204])h81Cutvi010634 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:56:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Stephens To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:52:35 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <1062417582.90127.90.camel@enigma.8ball.co.za> <29980000.1062418037@lerlaptop.lerctr.org> In-Reply-To: <29980000.1062418037@lerlaptop.lerctr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309010852.35199.tbstep@tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Re: libc.so.3 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:56:59 -0000 On Monday 01 September 2003 08:07 am, Larry Rosenman wrote: > set COMPAT3X=yes in /etc/make.conf, and > cd /usr/src/lib/compat/compat3x.i386 > make > make install > make clean > > will do it. I suppose my earlier reply can be disregarded. My suggestion works for some libraries, but I see it may not work for this one. -- Todd Stephens From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 06:13:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5376016A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E01843FE9 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:13:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.net) Received: from user-119apb3.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.101.99] helo=nebula.whywire.net) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19toUm-0007c1-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 06:13:25 -0700 Received: from whywire.net (nebula.whywire.net [10.0.3.1]) by nebula.whywire.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h81CsYQv014523 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:54:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Monah Baki" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:54:34 -0400 Message-Id: <20030901124637.M77317@whywire.net> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.10 20030731 X-OriginatingIP: 68.98.162.39 (mbaki) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: /dev/dsp: device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:13:28 -0000 Hi all, I'm using Freebsd 4.8 and mozilla 1.4. Whenever I go to google.com or yahoo.com to search for something, I get /dev/dsp: Device busy. I can get to any url, but can't seem to search for anything (cnn.com, in the dialog box to getting my home town weather, will not work). Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 06:17:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5C116A4BF; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE41B44005; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:17:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp104-131.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net [150.101.104.131])h81DHHia004360; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 22:47:18 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: At home To: Tadimeti Keshav , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 22:47:17 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <20030901120922.51380.qmail@web60002.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030901120922.51380.qmail@web60002.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200309012247.17206.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to mount a FAT floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:17:21 -0000 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:39, Tadimeti Keshav wrote: > Hi guys, > Sorry for sending a blank mail. > How can I mount a (FAT) floppy disk that contains my > favourite themes? > > I have /dev/fd0 directory. (This is a device not a directory.) > Is this the command: > mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy? Yes > Where is the /floppy directory present? > You need to make it (first): # mkdir /floppy > > man mount_msdos does not give any examples. > Most of us find mtools a more convenient way of=20 managing floppies in FAT format. Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 06:19:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0724B16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-da-3.dns-solutions.net (mail-da-3.dns-solutions.net [69.12.112.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 254A243FF5 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:19:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ) Received: (qmail 89835 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2003 13:19:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO christabel.starbreaker.net) (matthew@starbreaker.net@209.113.233.11) by mail-da-3.dns-solutions.net - 209.113.233.11 with SMTP; 1 Sep 2003 13:19:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:19:42 -0400 From: Matthew Graybosch To: Denis Troshin Message-ID: <20030901131942.GA20141@christabel.starbreaker.net> References: <29508631.20030901165843@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <29508631.20030901165843@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ugly Huge BSD Monster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:19:38 -0000 On 16:58 Mon 01 Sep , Denis Troshin wrote: > P.S. Under Windows it is possible to write not bad applications which > depend just on libraries (KERNEL32, USER32, GDI32). And these libs > exist on every base system!!! > > Is it possible in unix? > > Before I thought that unix programs very compact, but they are huge! If you want compact unix programs, don't use X apps or apps written in scripting languages like Perl and Python. FreeBSD by itself doesn't offer the monstrous APIs that Windows offers; it just offers an implementation of the standard C library (libc). As a result, stock FreeBSD is a very barebones environment. -- Matthew Graybosch http://www.starbreaker.net "The best way to lose an argument is to throw the first punch." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 06:26:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DB016A4C0 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA6443FF3 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:26:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mail23@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h81DQVna039932; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:26:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail23@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h81DQVjM039931; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:26:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: ei.bzerk.org: bulk set sender to mail23@bzerk.org using -f Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:26:31 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Nelis Lamprecht Message-ID: <20030901132631.GA39913@ei.bzerk.org> References: <1062417582.90127.90.camel@enigma.8ball.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1062417582.90127.90.camel@enigma.8ball.co.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: FreeBSD Questions Mail List Subject: Re: libc.so.3 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ruben de Groot List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:26:21 -0000 On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 01:59:42PM +0200, Nelis Lamprecht typed: > Hi, > > Running a program ( Mcafee Viruscan ) and I get the following: > > pandora# ./uvscan > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.3" not found > > I'm using 4.8 Stable. Which port will give me this library ? /usr/ports/misc/compat3x Ruben > > Thanks! > > Nelis > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 06:28:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2C816A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-da-2.dns-solutions.net (mail-da-2.dns-solutions.net [69.12.112.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DF6543FE0 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:28:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@vcommunities.net) Received: (qmail 17870 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2003 13:28:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO equilibrium) (mvondung@vcommunities.net@62.226.52.135) by mail-da-2.dns-solutions.net - 62.226.52.135 with SMTP; 1 Sep 2003 13:28:12 -0000 From: "Michael Vondung" To: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:28:09 +0200 Message-ID: <002001c3708c$e454c940$0100a8c0@equilibrium> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: PPP and the backslash-containing AT command in ppp.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:28:17 -0000 I am fairly to FreeBSD (and any kind of Unix), so please be easy on me = in case I'm overlooking the obvious. :) I've been trying to connect to my ISP with an external "Elsa Microlink ISDN/TL pro" modem. The init string that the modem requires is AT&F\N9. = I modified the following line in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf: set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ \"\" AT OK-AT-OK AT&F\\N9 OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT The man page for chat (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dchat&sektion=3D8) says that = \\ sends a backlash character, so I figured that AT&F\\N9 would be sent as = AT&F\N9. However, it doesn't seem to send a backslash. Here's the relevant bit = from /var/log/ppp.log: Sep 1 15:01:36 catbox ppp[372]: tun1: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of = 1=20 Sep 1 15:01:36 catbox ppp[372]: tun1: Chat: Send: AT^M=20 Sep 1 15:01:36 catbox ppp[372]: tun1: Chat: Expect(5): OK=20 Sep 1 15:01:37 catbox ppp[372]: tun1: Chat: Received: AT^M^M=20 Sep 1 15:01:37 catbox ppp[372]: tun1: Chat: Received: OK^M=20 Sep 1 15:01:37 catbox ppp[372]: tun1: Chat: Send: AT&FN9^M=20 Sep 1 15:01:37 catbox ppp[372]: tun1: Chat: Expect(5): OK=20 Sep 1 15:01:37 catbox ppp[372]: tun1: Chat: Received: AT&FN9^M^M=20 Sep 1 15:01:37 catbox ppp[372]: tun1: Chat: Received: ERROR^M=20 Sep 1 15:01:42 catbox ppp[372]: tun1: Chat: Expect timeout=20 Sep 1 15:01:42 catbox ppp[372]: tun1: Warning: Chat script failed=20 I have also tried this with AT&F\N9, AT&F\\\N9 and AT&F^\N9. I'm unsure = why the script expects "timeout" and not "CONNECT". If I leave out "AT&F\\N9 = OK" before ATE1Q0, the modem will dial (the LNE LED indicates that an ISDN connection is being established), but won't get a carrier. In this case = the log looks like this: Sep 1 14:58:43 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of = 1=20 Sep 1 14:58:43 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: Send: AT^M=20 Sep 1 14:58:43 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: Expect(5): OK=20 Sep 1 14:58:43 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: Received: AT^M^M=20 Sep 1 14:58:43 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: Received: OK^M=20 Sep 1 14:58:43 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: Send: AT&F^M=20 Sep 1 14:58:43 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: Expect(5): OK=20 Sep 1 14:58:43 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: Received: AT&F^M^M=20 Sep 1 14:58:43 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: Received: OK^M=20 Sep 1 14:58:43 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: Send: ATDT019102345^M=20 Sep 1 14:58:45 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: Expect(40): CONNECT=20 Sep 1 14:58:45 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: Received: ATDT019102345^M^M = Sep 1 14:58:45 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Chat: Received: NO CARRIER^M=20 Sep 1 14:58:45 catbox ppp[359]: tun1: Warning: Chat script failed=20 Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 06:46:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E2C16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDB743FFB for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:46:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp104-131.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net [150.101.104.131])h81DkPia019954; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:16:25 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: At home To: "Michael Vondung" , Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:16:25 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <002001c3708c$e454c940$0100a8c0@equilibrium> In-Reply-To: <002001c3708c$e454c940$0100a8c0@equilibrium> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200309012316.25143.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: PPP and the backslash-containing AT command in ppp.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:46:28 -0000 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 22:58, Michael Vondung wrote: > I am fairly to FreeBSD (and any kind of Unix), so please be easy on me = in > case I'm overlooking the obvious. :) > > I've been trying to connect to my ISP with an external "Elsa Microlink > ISDN/TL pro" modem. The init string that the modem requires is AT&F\N9.= I > modified the following line in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf: > > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ > \"\" AT OK-AT-OK AT&F\\N9 OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT > > The man page for chat > (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dchat&sektion=3D8) says that= \\ > sends a backlash character, so I figured that AT&F\\N9 would be sent as > AT&F\N9. However, it doesn't seem to send a backslash. Here's the relev= ant > bit from /var/log/ppp.log: The string is interpreted twice -- first by ppp itself which reduces '\\'= to=20 '\' so caht sees only one '\'. Sould work if you use '\\\\', that is: AT&F\\\\N9 which the first interpretation reduces to: AT&F\\N9 Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 06:51:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F69316A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com (mailout10.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7289943FAF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:51:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alexander.Farber@t-online.de) Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19tp5O-0006ee-03; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:51:14 +0200 Received: from pref.my.domain (VOe4LTZvwe6-06cMRUeU2nW1jD0DGdaecdRsJRdziAgDYINUyemKkZ@[217.225.53.140]) by fwd06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19tp5G-1x0cO80; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:51:06 +0200 Received: from pref.my.domain (alex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pref.my.domain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h81DkssI020185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:46:55 GMT Received: (from alex@localhost) by pref.my.domain (8.12.8/8.12.9/Submit) id h81Dkq7p015802; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:46:52 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:46:52 +0000 From: Alexander.Farber@t-online.de (Alexander Farber) To: Monah Baki Message-ID: <20030901134652.GC15923@pref.my.domain> References: <20030901124637.M77317@whywire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030901124637.M77317@whywire.net> X-Url: X-Operating-System: OpenBSD 3.3 i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Seen: false X-ID: VOe4LTZvwe6-06cMRUeU2nW1jD0DGdaecdRsJRdziAgDYINUyemKkZ cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /dev/dsp: device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:51:19 -0000 Do you maybe run KDE and arts which blocks /dev/dsp? On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:54:34AM -0400, Monah Baki wrote: > I'm using Freebsd 4.8 and mozilla 1.4. Whenever I go to google.com or yahoo.com to search for > something, I get /dev/dsp: Device busy. I can get to any url, but can't seem to search for > anything (cnn.com, in the dialog box to getting my home town weather, will not work). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 06:53:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F3B16A4F9 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sferics.mongueurs.net (sferics.mongueurs.net [81.80.147.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C261F43FB1 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:53:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@landgren.net) Received: from landgren.net (81-80-147-206.bpinet.com [81.80.147.206]) by sferics.mongueurs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F30A9A2 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:53:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F534E5F.3090509@landgren.net> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:49:19 +0200 From: David Landgren Organization: A thousand golden eyes are watching User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030718 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1e2.f3352ba.2c81bfb8@aol.com> <005e01c36ef5$c9b17900$2401010a@zone3000.net> <3F50B100.1020601@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> <20030830152521.GA54379@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20030830152521.GA54379@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Newer names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:53:38 -0000 Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 04:13:20PM +0200, Hendrik Hasenbein wrote: > >>Vitali Malicky wrote: >> >>>What about DRAGON? There is also such a term as DRAGON. Yes, I'm all >>>serious. cron is a DRAGON, for example. DRAGON is a process which may run >>>other processes periodically under a user specified. What about it? And >>>many >>>my colleagues, and me as well, refer to it also as PROCESS. >> >>You've made me curious. Can you explain me the acronym DRAGON? Or did >>you just make that up? > > > 'Dragon' is not an acronym. It is just a name. 'Daemon' is not an > acronym either despite what some people tell you. > The expansion 'Disk And Execution MONitor' was made up after the term > 'daemon' had come in use, and should not be used. I believe the correct term is a backronym :) David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 06:58:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDE116A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425CE43F75 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 06:58:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.net) Received: from user-119apb3.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.101.99] helo=nebula.whywire.net) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19tpCj-0002Be-00; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 06:58:49 -0700 Received: from whywire.net (nebula.whywire.net [10.0.3.1]) by nebula.whywire.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h81DdxQv012485; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:39:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Monah Baki" To: Alexander.Farber@t-online.de (Alexander Farber) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:39:59 -0400 Message-Id: <20030901133830.M54417@whywire.net> In-Reply-To: <20030901134652.GC15923@pref.my.domain> References: <20030901124637.M77317@whywire.net> <20030901134652.GC15923@pref.my.domain> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.10 20030731 X-OriginatingIP: 68.98.162.39 (mbaki) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /dev/dsp: device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:58:50 -0000 I'm running windowmaker On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:46:52 +0000, Alexander Farber wrote > Do you maybe run KDE and arts which blocks /dev/dsp? > > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:54:34AM -0400, Monah Baki wrote: > > I'm using Freebsd 4.8 and mozilla 1.4. Whenever I go to google.com or yahoo.com to search for > > something, I get /dev/dsp: Device busy. I can get to any url, but can't seem to search for > > anything (cnn.com, in the dialog box to getting my home town weather, will not work). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 07:11:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEDC16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roc-66-67-55-11.rochester.rr.com (roc-66-67-55-11.rochester.rr.com [66.67.55.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA654400D for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vega@roc-66-67-55-11.rochester.rr.com) Received: by roc-66-67-55-11.rochester.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9F35C901F41; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:13:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:13:32 -0400 From: mpd To: Monah Baki Message-ID: <20030901141332.GA51028@rochester.rr.com> References: <20030901124637.M77317@whywire.net> <20030901134652.GC15923@pref.my.domain> <20030901133830.M54417@whywire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030901133830.M54417@whywire.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /dev/dsp: device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:11:26 -0000 On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:39:59AM -0400, Monah Baki wrote: > I'm running windowmaker Try installing the sysutils/lsof port, and run lsof | grep dsp > > > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:46:52 +0000, Alexander Farber wrote > > Do you maybe run KDE and arts which blocks /dev/dsp? > > > > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:54:34AM -0400, Monah Baki wrote: > > > I'm using Freebsd 4.8 and mozilla 1.4. Whenever I go to google.com or yahoo.com to > search for > > > something, I get /dev/dsp: Device busy. I can get to any url, but can't seem to search for > > > anything (cnn.com, in the dialog box to getting my home town weather, will not work). -- ___________________________________________________________ "ONE TURPENTINE FOR THE MAN, COMING RIGHT UP!" - Mr. Nutty from "ONE GLASS OF TURPENTINE COMING RIGHT UP" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 07:15:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02BF16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.maa-net.net (pool-151-199-48-228.bos.east.verizon.net [151.199.48.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA26244013 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:15:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaela@maa-net.net) Received: from 192.168.0.6 (pool-151-199-48-228.bos.east.verizon.net [151.199.48.228]) by mail.maa-net.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h81EF9RS019595 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:15:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from michaela@maa-net.net) From: Michael Alestock Organization: MAANet To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:15:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 X-PRIORITY: 2 (High) Priority: urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309011015.09771.michaela@maa-net.net> Subject: Dump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:15:11 -0000 I had a question.... I have 4 filesystems that I want to dump(8) to my SCSI Tape backup drive (Travan 4GB uncompressed). The filesystems are, "/", "/usr", "/var", and "/usr/home." All four filesystems equal about 2.5Gigs of data. I dumped the first filesystem "/" by executing, "dump -0uf /dev/sa0 / " ....then executed, "mt -f /dev/sa0 eom" to move the tape to the end of the backup (to append to the tape), then dumped the second filesystem (/usr) using,"dump -0uf /dev/sa0 /usr". Then once again I executed, "mt -f /dev/sa0" to move the tape to the end (to append to it). When I go to execute, "restore -if /dev/sa0" to confirm that both filesystems were saved so far, there's only ONE filesystem saved to the tape "/". I can't 'cd' to /var because it's not on the tape. What am I doing wrong??? I know I still have plenty of tape left to save other filesystems, but it's not dumping anything after the first filesystem. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?? Thanks, >>> Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 07:22:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B77916A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.dubium.com (h24-82-130-8.vn.shawcable.net [24.82.130.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F281543FE1 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@dubium.com) Received: (qmail 53313 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2003 14:22:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO sigfried.dubium.com) ([127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Sep 2003 14:22:27 -0000 Received: from mail.dubium.com (sigfried.dubium.com [192.168.0.201]) by sigfried.dubium.com (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 07:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192.168.0.1 (SquirrelMail authenticated user joe@dubium.com) by mail.dubium.com with HTTP; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49394.192.168.0.1.1062426146.squirrel@mail.dubium.com> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:22:26 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal References: In-Reply-To: From: Joe Sotham X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.83 (Iron Liege) X-TMDA-Fingerprint: nSYqaGY+unyqqmWrRYHcSmsoadE Subject: error building apache 2.0.47 from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:22:26 -0000 Has anyone seen the following error, or can make a suggestion to deal with this build error? The same error occurs when building manually. I'm currently running 2.0.45 on a FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #0 system. - Joe --error log ----- $ make /usr/ports/www/apache2/work/httpd-2.0.47/server/exports.c:253: `ap_is_recursion_limit_exceeded' undeclared here (not in a function) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache2/work/httpd-2.0.47/server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache2/work/httpd-2.0.47/server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache2/work/httpd-2.0.47. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache2. -- Joe Sotham ------------ praxis makes Perfect. - Meister Eckhart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 07:32:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53E916A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merle.it.northwestern.edu (merle.it.northwestern.edu [129.105.16.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E008743FB1 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:32:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r-militante@northwestern.edu) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by merle.it.northwestern.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h81EWHBJ011969 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:32:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from merle.it.northwestern.edu (darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu [129.105.51.23]) by merle.it.northwestern.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma011843; Mon, 1 Sep 03 09:32:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:23:36 -0500 From: Redmond Militante To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030901142336.GB54070@darkpossum> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Sender: redmond@darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu X-URL: http://darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1 X-DSA-and-ElGamal-Fingerprint: 2AA2 E78E A6FC 9144 3534 39A2 EE0F 8D26 5FDF 481D Subject: [r-militante@northwestern.edu: Re: need advice: core dumps during buildworld] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Redmond Militante List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:32:19 -0000 --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Forwarded message from Redmond Militante ----- Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:22:52 -0500 From: Redmond Militante To: Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: need advice: core dumps during buildworld Reply-To: Redmond Militante In-Reply-To: <20030901033721.GA38515@grimoire.chen.org.nz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Sender: redmond@darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu X-URL: http://darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu/modules.php?name=3DContent= &pa=3Dshowpage&pid=3D1 X-DSA-and-ElGamal-Fingerprint: 2AA2 E78E A6FC 9144 3534 39A2 EE0F 8D26 5FDF= 481D hi thanks for responding! my make.conf seems ok to me, is there something i should change? CFLAGS=3D -O -pipe COPTFLAGS=3D -O -pipe NOPROFILE=3D true USA_RESIDENT=3D YES # -- use.perl generated deltas -- # # Created: Wed Aug 6 16:28:04 2003 # Setting to use base perl from ports: PERL_VER=3D5.6.1 PERL_VERSION=3D5.6.1 PERL_ARCH=3Dmach NOPERL=3Dyo NO_PERL=3Dyo NO_PERL_WRAPPER=3Dyo thanks redmond [Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 03:37:21PM +1200] This one time, at band camp, Jonathan Chen said: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 06:56:16PM -0500, Redmond Militante wrote: > > hi all > >=20 > > i am having trouble trying to cvsup a 5_1-RELEASE machine > >=20 > > i'm at the 'cd /usr/src/ make buildworld' stage. i can't run 'make buil= dworld' > > successfully on this machine. i'm able to on my other 5_1-RELEASE machi= ne > > (although it's different hardware...). the buildworld seems to fail at > > different points randomly. for ex., the most current kernel core dump/e= rror i > > get when trying to complete this operation is > >=20 > > Illegal instruction(core dumped) > > ****Error code 132 >=20 > Check your make.conf flags. You're very likely using some odd CPU > specific flags. > --=20 > Jonathan Chen > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity > -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. >=20 --=20 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Thu Aug 28 12:42:04 CDT 2= 003 9:15AM up 3 days, 20:12, 1 user, load averages: 0.28, 0.53, 0.49 =20 University, n.: Like a software house, except the software's free, and it's usable, and it works, and if it breaks they'll quickly tell you how to fix it, and ... =20 ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Thu Aug 28 12:42:04 CDT 2= 003 9:15AM up 3 days, 20:12, 1 user, load averages: 0.28, 0.53, 0.49 =20 University, n.: Like a software house, except the software's free, and it's usable, and it works, and if it breaks they'll quickly tell you how to fix it, and ... =20 --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/U1Zo7g+NJl/fSB0RAgE+AJ9jpD0eDZ2mB6N251y083RRREQMAQCglRdW S1sw4Sz3G0BgBai9+BOIWXw= =Y5fk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 07:35:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8DF16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net [65.194.254.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB64743FEA for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:35:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dragoncrest@voyager.net) Received: from j2v6e9.voyager.net (testbox [192.168.0.4]) h819esKh081612; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:40:55 GMT (envelope-from dragoncrest@voyager.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030901224416.020e7010@pop.voyager.net> X-Sender: dragoncrest@pop.voyager.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 22:45:02 -0700 To: Hendrik Hasenbein From: Dragoncrest In-Reply-To: <3F52FE97.1060300@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030901084153.020e3110@pop.voyager.net> <5.2.0.9.2.20030901084153.020e3110@pop.voyager.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using Digital Video Out under FBD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:35:50 -0000 Well that's at least cool. At least I know that it's doable. Now to find the info...which so far has proven elusive. Oh well, I'll probubly find it eventually. At 10:08 AM 9/1/03 +0200, Hendrik Hasenbein wrote: >Dragoncrest wrote: >> I'm guessing by the relative degree of silence on this that this >> isn't supported on Freebsd yet? All I need is a simple answer one way >> or another. If it's not, I'll leave it at that. If it is, I'll keep >> searching. Links to FAQ's would be useful, but just a yes or no will >> suffice at this point. I'm wanting to export the video to VHS and >> possibly preview it on a TV because I'm doing a digital media >> presentation and I don't want to haul that beat of a windows box I have >> around with me to the presentation. I'd rather take my SFF with me, but >> that's running Freebsd using a GF3 ti200 card, which presents me with my >> problem. >> Thanks for any help on this at all. >The nvidia-driver claims to be able to do it, but I couldn't get any video >out. Don't know if my adapter is broken, because cross test with windoze >gave me the same result. > >Hendrik > >-- >Ahhh there's only 10 types of people in the world, >those who understand binary and those who don't... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 08:00:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9621016A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net [65.194.254.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6621343F93 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dragoncrest@voyager.net) Received: from j2v6e9.voyager.net (testbox [192.168.0.4]) h81A5AKh081650; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:05:10 GMT (envelope-from dragoncrest@voyager.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030901230340.01d552a0@pop.voyager.net> X-Sender: dragoncrest@pop.voyager.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 23:09:18 -0700 To: Val Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Dragoncrest In-Reply-To: <20030830082938.362d6311.vmsmith@grokking.org> References: <732059115.20030830191335@mail.ru> <732059115.20030830191335@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: Why people are not satisfied with FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:00:02 -0000 >For instance, I'm writing this on a Linux box, but have 3 FBSD servers I >administer, as well as a small handful of Windows servers I'm responsible >for. I also use windows 2000 and XP as well as FBSD and more than 2 >distros of Linux at the desktop, from various work and home locations. *bows* I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy! ;) hehe. Nice sounding setup by the way. :D Just for the curiousity of the original poster, yes, I use Freebsd and Windows side by side. Mostly windows is used when it's something that I either can't do with my freebsd at this time, or it requires windows as a companion to my freebsd in order to complete a task. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 08:35:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3928516A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webserver.get-linux.org (adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.161.78.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4932B43F75 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oremanj@webserver.get-linux.org) Received: (qmail 18909 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Sep 2003 15:38:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:38:03 -0700 From: Joshua Oreman To: Michael Alestock Message-ID: <20030901153803.GB18845@webserver> References: <200309011015.09771.michaela@maa-net.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200309011015.09771.michaela@maa-net.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:35:54 -0000 On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:15:08AM -0400 or thereabouts, Michael Alestock wrote: > I had a question.... > > I have 4 filesystems that I want to dump(8) to my SCSI Tape backup drive > (Travan 4GB uncompressed). The filesystems are, "/", "/usr", "/var", and > "/usr/home." All four filesystems equal about 2.5Gigs of data. > > I dumped the first filesystem "/" by executing, "dump -0uf /dev/sa0 / " > ....then executed, "mt -f /dev/sa0 eom" to move the tape to the end of the > backup (to append to the tape), then dumped the second filesystem (/usr) > using,"dump -0uf /dev/sa0 /usr". Then once again I executed, "mt -f > /dev/sa0" to move the tape to the end (to append to it). > > When I go to execute, "restore -if /dev/sa0" to confirm that both filesystems > were saved so far, there's only ONE filesystem saved to the tape "/". I > can't 'cd' to /var because it's not on the tape. What am I doing wrong??? I > know I still have plenty of tape left to save other filesystems, but it's not > dumping anything after the first filesystem. > > Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?? First, no need to run eom. So backup goes like this: # for FS in / /usr /usr/home /var; do > dump -0uf /dev/sa0 $FS > done && mt -f /dev/sa0 rewind To restore, you have to skip the tape to the correct position (read up on mt fsf). Then you can run `restore if /dev/sa0' to get files from *THAT PARTITION ONLY*. So if you wanted to restore a file in / but not /var or /usr (assuming rewound tape), do: # restore -if /dev/sa0 like you tried. To restore a file on /usr (assuming above order) on a rewound tape, do: # mt -f /dev/sa0 fsf # restore -if /dev/sa0 To restore a file on /usr/home, rewound tape, do `fsf 2'. To restore a file on /var and rewound tape, use `fsf 3'. To rewind the tape: # mt -f /dev/sa0 rewind It may be useful to keep a catalog as the first file on the tape. So you might want to do something like this before a backup of multiple file systems on one tape: # mt -f /dev/sa0 erase # CAREFUL! this erases previous backup! # dd of=/dev/sa0 < # mt -f /dev/sa0 fsf 3 # cd /usr/home # restore if /dev/sa0 Note that when restoring a file system other than /, paths are relative to the root of that filesystem. So, for example, if you're restoring from /usr backup, then /usr/X11R6 is actually /X11R6. /home will be there, but empty (it's a mount point). Also, in the above catalog, file numbers really start at 1; I was simplifying it so it would be easy to see exactly what you need to give to mt. -- Josh > > > Thanks, > > >>> Michael > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 08:38:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8F016A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-da-2.dns-solutions.net (mail-da-2.dns-solutions.net [69.12.112.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D808443FEC for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:38:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@vcommunities.net) Received: (qmail 37599 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2003 15:38:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO equilibrium) (mvondung@vcommunities.net@62.158.60.103) by mail-da-2.dns-solutions.net - 62.158.60.103 with SMTP; 1 Sep 2003 15:38:14 -0000 From: "Michael Vondung" To: "'Malcolm Kay'" , Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 17:38:10 +0200 Message-ID: <002b01c3709f$0ec29510$0100a8c0@equilibrium> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200309012316.25143.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: PPP and the backslash-containing AT command in ppp.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:38:16 -0000 Malcolm wrote: > Sould work if you use '\\\\', that is: AT&F\\\\N9 > which the first interpretation reduces to: AT&F\\N9 Thank you! This worked indeed. After an hour of frustrating fiddling I = also figured out that the string I needed for this particular ISP was = AT&F\N10 rather than AT&F\N9 -- and yet another hour later I managed to figure = out that my user name needed to be in a different format (very cryptic and = well hidden on the ISP's pages) than the one used in the ISP's dialer = software for Windows. (User PPP is almost too verbose.) So, PPP now connects just fine. The only problem is that FreeBSD doesn't recognise this connection as its primary connection to the Internet. Up until this point, the FreeBSD box used the shared Internet connection of = a Windows XP system (a situation I'm attempting to reverse). Even when the = PPP connection is established, "ping", "traceroute", etcetera go via the LAN = to the XP box ... and time out because the XP machine doesn't have an = active connection to the Internet. Probably off topic under this subject line, = but would you know where I should start looking? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 08:40:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C341116A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650E144008 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp104-131.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net [150.101.104.131])h81Fe3ia073072; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:10:03 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: At home To: Michael Alestock , questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:10:02 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200309011015.09771.michaela@maa-net.net> In-Reply-To: <200309011015.09771.michaela@maa-net.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200309020110.02687.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: Dump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:40:09 -0000 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:45, Michael Alestock wrote: > I had a question.... > > I have 4 filesystems that I want to dump(8) to my SCSI Tape backup driv= e > (Travan 4GB uncompressed). The filesystems are, "/", "/usr", "/var", a= nd > "/usr/home." All four filesystems equal about 2.5Gigs of data. > > I dumped the first filesystem "/" by executing, "dump -0uf /dev/sa0 / " > ....then executed, "mt -f /dev/sa0 eom" to move the tape to the end of = the Not sure that this is good; especially if it is not a new tape. Try: # mt -f /dev/nsa0 fsf 1 Or write dumps to /dev/nsa0 which leaves the tape positioned for next fil= e. > backup (to append to the tape), then dumped the second filesystem (/usr= ) > using,"dump -0uf /dev/sa0 /usr". Then once again I executed, "mt -f > /dev/sa0" to move the tape to the end (to append to it). > > When I go to execute, "restore -if /dev/sa0" to confirm that both > filesystems were saved so far, there's only ONE filesystem saved to the > tape "/". I can't 'cd' to /var because it's not on the tape. What am = I > doing wrong??? I know I still have plenty of tape left to save other > filesystems, but it's not dumping anything after the first filesystem. > When invoked restore will only look at one dump. You need to move past the first dump file before invoking restore=20 on say /usr. If your end-of-file marks are correctly written you should be able to do = this with: # mt -f /dev/nsa0 fsf 1 Now invoke restore -if /dev/sa0 -- should find /usr Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 08:40:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069C416A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0.rambler.ru (mx0.rambler.ru [81.19.66.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA9A43FE5 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from twistfire@rambler.ru) Received: from mailc.rambler.ru (mailc.rambler.ru [81.19.66.27]) by mx0.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F15433570 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:40:24 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from twistfire@rambler.ru) Received: from fire (vv.abc.mk.ua [62.64.91.193]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailc.rambler.ru (8.12.8/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h81FTQQX017243 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:31:08 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <000001c3709f$8f45e7a0$0400a8c0@fire> From: "Alex Zivenko" To: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:21:12 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Auth-User: twistfire, whoson: (null) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: How to run PostgreSQL on boot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:40:26 -0000 Hi all! I need to run Postgresql server on startup. It means, that I need to = start postmaster every boot. How can I do this? Sorry for my english. __________________________________________________________________ Alex Zivenko ICQ#: 298887381 Current ICQ status: =20 + More ways to contact me=20 __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 08:42:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF1616A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webserver.get-linux.org (adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.161.78.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F26043FE9 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:41:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oremanj@webserver.get-linux.org) Received: (qmail 18983 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Sep 2003 15:44:09 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:44:09 -0700 From: Joshua Oreman To: Michael Vondung Message-ID: <20030901154409.GC18845@webserver> References: <200309012316.25143.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <002b01c3709f$0ec29510$0100a8c0@equilibrium> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002b01c3709f$0ec29510$0100a8c0@equilibrium> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP and the backslash-containing AT command in ppp.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:42:00 -0000 On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 05:38:10PM +0200 or thereabouts, Michael Vondung wrote: > Malcolm wrote: > > > Sould work if you use '\\\\', that is: AT&F\\\\N9 > > which the first interpretation reduces to: AT&F\\N9 > > Thank you! This worked indeed. After an hour of frustrating fiddling I also > figured out that the string I needed for this particular ISP was AT&F\N10 > rather than AT&F\N9 -- and yet another hour later I managed to figure out > that my user name needed to be in a different format (very cryptic and well > hidden on the ISP's pages) than the one used in the ISP's dialer software > for Windows. (User PPP is almost too verbose.) > > So, PPP now connects just fine. The only problem is that FreeBSD doesn't > recognise this connection as its primary connection to the Internet. Up > until this point, the FreeBSD box used the shared Internet connection of a > Windows XP system (a situation I'm attempting to reverse). Even when the PPP > connection is established, "ping", "traceroute", etcetera go via the LAN to > the XP box ... and time out because the XP machine doesn't have an active > connection to the Internet. Probably off topic under this subject line, but > would you know where I should start looking? route(8) and netstat -rn Ask your ISP what to set your default route to, then set it in /etc/rc.conf (defaultrouter) and reboot. (You don't have to reboot, but that makes it easier). -- Josh > > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 08:43:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D93916A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webserver.get-linux.org (adsl-64-161-78-226.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.161.78.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA2C643F3F for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:43:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oremanj@webserver.get-linux.org) Received: (qmail 19014 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Sep 2003 15:45:29 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:45:29 -0700 From: Joshua Oreman To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030901154529.GD18845@webserver> References: <200309011015.09771.michaela@maa-net.net> <20030901153803.GB18845@webserver> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030901153803.GB18845@webserver> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: Dump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:43:20 -0000 On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 08:38:03AM -0700 or thereabouts, Joshua Oreman wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:15:08AM -0400 or thereabouts, Michael Alestock wrote: > > I had a question.... > > > > I have 4 filesystems that I want to dump(8) to my SCSI Tape backup drive > > (Travan 4GB uncompressed). The filesystems are, "/", "/usr", "/var", and > > "/usr/home." All four filesystems equal about 2.5Gigs of data. > > > > I dumped the first filesystem "/" by executing, "dump -0uf /dev/sa0 / " > > ....then executed, "mt -f /dev/sa0 eom" to move the tape to the end of the > > backup (to append to the tape), then dumped the second filesystem (/usr) > > using,"dump -0uf /dev/sa0 /usr". Then once again I executed, "mt -f > > /dev/sa0" to move the tape to the end (to append to it). > > > > When I go to execute, "restore -if /dev/sa0" to confirm that both filesystems > > were saved so far, there's only ONE filesystem saved to the tape "/". I > > can't 'cd' to /var because it's not on the tape. What am I doing wrong??? I > > know I still have plenty of tape left to save other filesystems, but it's not > > dumping anything after the first filesystem. > > > > Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?? > Please use /dev/nsa0 and not /dev/sa0, my bad. > > -- Josh > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > >>> Michael > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 08:50:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF2216A4BF; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07CC4400B; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 08:50:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h81FofQI049633; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:50:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:50:41 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Denis Troshin Message-ID: <20030901155041.GA68823@dan.emsphone.com> References: <29508631.20030901165843@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <29508631.20030901165843@mail.ru> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ugly Huge BSD Monster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:50:43 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 01), Denis Troshin said: > Almost every package I install requires a few other packages. > This 'idea of using dependent packages' turns FreeBSD (and other > unix-systems) to an ugly monster. > > For example, I don't need Perl or Python but a few packages I > install require them. > > Does exist a programming under unix without these dependencies? > > P.S. Under Windows it is possible to write not bad applications > which depend just on libraries (KERNEL32, USER32, GDI32). And these > libs exist on every base system!!! Windows has the same problems. Are you seriously saying you've never had to download a vbrun*.dll to get a Windows program that required Visual Basic to run? Or maybe had to download one of the many patches that afflict the MS Java implementation? > Is it possible in unix? Of course. Most programs in the ports tree are standalone. 95% of the programs in the base system are standalone. > Before I thought that unix programs very compact, but they are huge! Some are huge, some are small. There are a lot of Windows programs that are huge too (MS Word, for example). -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 09:01:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AE516A4C2 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net (smtp1.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3C843FDF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:01:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp104-131.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net [150.101.104.131])h81G1Eia082698; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:31:14 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: At home To: "Michael Vondung" , Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:31:14 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <002b01c3709f$0ec29510$0100a8c0@equilibrium> In-Reply-To: <002b01c3709f$0ec29510$0100a8c0@equilibrium> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200309020131.14279.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Re: PPP and the backslash-containing AT command in ppp.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:01:18 -0000 On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:08, Michael Vondung wrote: > Malcolm wrote: > > Sould work if you use '\\\\', that is: AT&F\\\\N9 > > which the first interpretation reduces to: AT&F\\N9 > > Thank you! This worked indeed. After an hour of frustrating fiddling I = also > figured out that the string I needed for this particular ISP was AT&F\N= 10 > rather than AT&F\N9 -- and yet another hour later I managed to figure = out > that my user name needed to be in a different format (very cryptic and = well > hidden on the ISP's pages) than the one used in the ISP's dialer softwa= re > for Windows. (User PPP is almost too verbose.) > > So, PPP now connects just fine. The only problem is that FreeBSD doesn'= t > recognise this connection as its primary connection to the Internet. Up > until this point, the FreeBSD box used the shared Internet connection o= f a > Windows XP system (a situation I'm attempting to reverse). Even when th= e > PPP connection is established, "ping", "traceroute", etcetera go via th= e > LAN to the XP box ... and time out because the XP machine doesn't have = an > active connection to the Internet. Probably off topic under this subjec= t > line, but would you know where I should start looking? > > Thanks! Do you have the line: add default HISADDR in your ppp.conf file -- either default or under the particular connectio= n. You probably have: defaultrouter=3D"XP machines IP address" in /etc/rc.conf although I think this should be overridden when ppp activ= ates. Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 09:21:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F7C16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sferics.mongueurs.net (sferics.mongueurs.net [81.80.147.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC5044008 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@landgren.net) Received: from landgren.net (81-80-147-206.bpinet.com [81.80.147.206]) by sferics.mongueurs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1A5A99B for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:21:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F53710B.7060004@landgren.net> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:17:15 +0200 From: David Landgren Organization: A thousand golden eyes are watching User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030718 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000001c3709f$8f45e7a0$0400a8c0@fire> In-Reply-To: <000001c3709f$8f45e7a0$0400a8c0@fire> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to run PostgreSQL on boot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:21:33 -0000 Alex Zivenko wrote: > Hi all! > I need to run Postgresql server on startup. It means, that I need to start postmaster every boot. How can I do this? > Sorry for my english. I have the following file on the servers that run Postgresql, named /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postgresql.sh: #! /bin/sh su postgres -c '/home/pgsql/bin/pg_ctl start \ -D /home/pgsql/data -l /var/log/postgresql' You will probably have to change paths etc. to suit your site, but this is the general idea. David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 09:35:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913A616A4C0; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amsfep15-int.chello.nl (amsfep15-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6806743FE0; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from devnull@chello.nl) Received: from upc6h0dql8ic3d ([62.194.43.7]) by amsfep15-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with ESMTP id <20030901163554.CVPQ6169.amsfep15-int.chello.nl@upc6h0dql8ic3d>; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:35:54 +0200 From: "Devnull" To: "'Malcolm Kay'" , "'Tadimeti Keshav'" , Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:35:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 11.0.4920 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 In-Reply-To: <200309012247.17206.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Thread-Index: AcNwi3fZWK2h72z2TCOxGneClbSYIwAG3HiA Message-Id: <20030901163554.CVPQ6169.amsfep15-int.chello.nl@upc6h0dql8ic3d> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: how to mount a FAT floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:35:57 -0000 Mkdir /mnt/floppy/ mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ? Devnull -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Malcolm Kay Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:17 PM To: Tadimeti Keshav; freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:39, Tadimeti Keshav wrote: > Hi guys, > Sorry for sending a blank mail. > How can I mount a (FAT) floppy disk that contains my > favourite themes? > > I have /dev/fd0 directory. (This is a device not a directory.) > Is this the command: > mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy? Yes > Where is the /floppy directory present? > You need to make it (first): # mkdir /floppy > > man mount_msdos does not give any examples. > Most of us find mtools a more convenient way of managing floppies in FAT format. Malcolm _______________________________________________ freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 09:47:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D52A16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdsolutions.com.ve (gdsolutions.com.ve [216.55.187.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B66043FFB for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:47:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdelfino-ml@gdsolutions.com.ve) Received: from 192.168.1.14 ([200.62.15.2]) by gdsolutions.com.ve (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h81GlKq27375 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:47:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdelfino-ml@gdsolutions.com.ve) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:47:18 -0400 From: Gustavo Delfino To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.0.1 (Blindsider) Subject: Perl 5.8 - make test problem (shmget. msgget) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:47:24 -0000 I am trying to upgrade Perl from version 5.005_03 to 5.8 on a 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD VPS (virtual private server). I did a 'pkg_add perl-5.8.0_7.tgz' but I then removed it because I was getting this error: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/perl: Undefined symbol "nl_langinfo" I then decided to dowload the source and compile it myself, but some of the tests fail: ========================================================================== Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ..../ext/IPC/SysV/ipcsysv.t 78 19968 16 16 100.00% 1-16 ..../ext/IPC/SysV/t/msg.t 78 19968 9 9 100.00% 1-9 ..../ext/IPC/SysV/t/sem.t 78 19968 10 10 100.00% 1-10 ..../lib/IPC/SysV.t 78 19968 16 16 100.00% 1-16 ..../lib/Net/Ping/t/110_icmp_inst.t 255 65280 2 1 50.00% 2 45 tests and 414 subtests skipped. Failed 5/712 test scripts, 99.30% okay. 52/68476 subtests failed, 99.92% okay. ========================================================================== These are the failure messages: t/op/taint...........................# shmget failed: Function not implemented # msgget failed ok ext/IPC/SysV/ipcsysv.................msgget failed: Function not implemented FAILED at test 1 ext/IPC/SysV/t/msg...................msgget: 78 Function not implemented FAILED at test 1 ext/IPC/SysV/t/sem...................semget: 78 Function not implemented FAILED at test 1 lib/IPC/SysV.........................msgget failed: Function not implemented FAILED at test 1 lib/Net/Ping/t/110_icmp_inst.........icmp socket error - Operation not permitted at ../lib/Net/Ping/t/110_icmp_inst.t line 27 FAILED at test 2 I also tried with perl 5.6.1, but make test fails too. Please help me. Regards, -- Gustavo Delfino Caracas, Venezuela From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 09:56:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6039416A4C0 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccmmhc02.asp.att.net (sccmmhc02.asp.att.net [204.127.203.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC02F44014 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:56:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfriedrich@insightbb.com) Received: from p4t533.stevenfriedrich.org (12-222-84-181.client.insightbb.com[12.222.84.181]) by sccmmhc02.asp.att.net (sccmmhc02) with SMTP id <20030901165624mm2004d3v6e>; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:56:24 +0000 From: "Steve Friedrich" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 11:55:32 -0500 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2711) For Windows 2000 (5.1.2600;1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20030901165625.EC02F44014@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Recent CURRENT breaks boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:56:27 -0000 Boot fails with: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ar0s1a setrootbyname failed ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp Root mount failed: 6 I have an ASUS moboard with a Promise IDE (FastTrak 133) that's been running CURRENT until today. I updated via cvsup and built buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, installworld. And I did do a make clean depend first. It seems that GEOM is now the default and the Promise driver (ar) doesn't get loaded. GEOM doesn't appear to understand the Promise array. Please cc me, I'm not currently subscribed to questions... Steve Friedrich Bedford, IN ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New World Order, Unabridged Dictionary Democrat (dem' e-krat) noun. A variety of lemming so morally bankrupt, they continue to idolize Bill "The Serial Adulterer" Clinton. Bill Clinton (Slick Willy) verb. SOMEBODY figured out how to make a pseudo-human out of teflon. Hillary "The Doormat" Rodham Clinton. (Doormat) noun. Everything a father wouldn't want his daughter to be. A doormat that masquerades as a feminist, but doesn't realize she's anti-feminist with every breath. Prior to being a carpetbagger in NY, the highest position she ever attained was a gift from a man she had slept with. It doesn't count that he was her husband, since they hadn't slept together in years. hyphenated-American (confused) noun. A ruse. There's no such thing as an African-American, Italian-American, German-American, etc. You're either an American, or an African in America, Italian in America, or German in America, etc., ad naseum. Eve Ensler (feminazi) noun. A liberal, Democrat, militant lesbian who believes that a mature woman seducing an underage girl isn't pedophilia, merely normal sexual development. NOW (irrelevant) noun. A woman's movement overtaken by man-hating lesbians. Very LOUD proponents of partial-birth murder, even though only 3% of Americans are callous enough to support it after seeing it. NOW, as of late 2002, STILL hasn't created an intervention program to teach young females to not get pregnant in order to attempt to "trap" a man. STILL doesn't teach young women to not think of children as "meal tickets". Jesse Jackson (hypocrite) noun. Jesse is the only known human to make Dr. Martin Luther King roll over in his grave. It's the message, not the messenger, stupid. And what's this about a SALARY for your Ho? Al "Alleged Coke Dealer" Sharpton (hypocrite) noun. A master of deception, this guy told the media, you know, the "investigative journalists", that he was on a "hunger strike" in a Puerto Rican jail. In reality, he was eating soup every day as part of his "get this fat ass in shape for a Presidential run" weight loss program. He also bamboozled the media with the help of Tawana Brawley and her mother. When the police figured out the scam, Al slithered out of town on his belly, like the snake that he is. Jesse Durkheising (non-gay victim) noun. A poor child not "fortunate" enough to be gay. If he had been gay, he would have had Robert Redford make a movie about him. And oddly, although Christians are bashed as a GROUP anytime some yahoo kills a gay, NO ONE in the media bashed ALL gays for the act of TWO. Perplexing, I know. Hypocrite (Democrat) noun. An idiot that can't understand that it's RACIST to believe that it's OK for Chris Rock to say NIGGER, but it's NOT ok for Senator Byrd to say the n* word. What crap. Also, an IDIOT that can't recognize that Kathleen Kennedy Townsend is a disgraceful racist for stooping to handing out Oreo cookies to bash her opponents running mate that doesn't think within the box created by the Democratic National Committee for "African-Americans". unfathomable (huh?) adjective. The incomprehensible idea that gays could be "born that way", yet so many tried to coerce me into gay sex from the time BEFORE puberty and into my adult life. Odd? Slippery slope - overused phrase of the looney left. Think of Roe v Wade culminating in a third trimester partial-birth murder of a VIABLE fetus. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 10:14:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1ED816A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.bahnhof.se (mail.bahnhof.se [213.136.33.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08D843FE9 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.rowlands@mypost.se) Received: from pcmarpxy.mine.nu (81-170-150-191.bahnhofbredband.net [81.170.150.191]) by smtp2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0366EB8084; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:14:18 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.mine.nu [127.0.0.1]) by pcmarpxy.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F6F7546; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:14:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pcmarpxy.mine.nu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pcmarpxy.mine.nu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70061-09; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:14:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV1.mwrwin2k.se (kalendar.mine.nu [192.168.0.4]) by pcmarpxy.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FCB7526; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:14:18 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:14:17 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Message-ID: <4789E43478F3994BB8D967C73FD9C6884EEE@EXCHSRV1.mwrwin2k.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Vinum stripe values table? Thread-Index: AcNwCSyrlruy+P08Rx+BfzgBY9EaKAAn3jhA From: "mark rowlands" To: "J.A. Terranson" , Subject: RE: Vinum stripe values table? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:14:22 -0000 > J.A. Terranson > The values to plug into vinum for stripe size has always been vague, > other than avoiding a power of 2. =20 Where is the vagueness here? "A good guideline for stripe size is between 256 kB and 512 kB. Avoid powers of 2, however: they tend to cause all superblocks to be placed on the first subdisk." > Is there any way to calculate an=20 > optimal value? Or is there a table anywhere? I did some work on this and came to the unsurprising conclusion of "it depends"=20 The needs of a database server / web server / ftp server / user file server are not equivalent, in addition, obviously the exact layout of "your" vinum configuration plays a non-trivial part.=20 > Given an 8 drive raid5 array, where each drive is an identical 4096m > drive, where do I start? You have already started when you created an Raid 5 configuration ;-)=20 Well, I created my vinum configuration, made some wild guesses as to what=20 I was going to be using it for (mostly web-serving of files of the order of 4-5MB) and then ran some tests, measuring both with bonnie and vinum's builtin statistics using different stripe sizes and increasing numbers of concurrent transactions, using both bonnie and scripted file transfers to generate disc i/o.=20 Overall, with my config 4 disks striped raid 0 on an promise ide controllers (real men always run Raid 0 !) an 8k stripe seemed to function well for me in this distinctly unscientific test scenario. Real world performance....it's ok....could it be better, probably. But it's good enough for what this machine does. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 10:31:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D52716A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.bahnhof.se (mail.bahnhof.se [213.136.33.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E15743FB1 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.rowlands@mypost.se) Received: from pcmarpxy.mine.nu (81-170-150-191.bahnhofbredband.net [81.170.150.191]) by smtp2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4285CB80A1; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:31:51 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.mine.nu [127.0.0.1]) by pcmarpxy.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AD07546; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:31:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pcmarpxy.mine.nu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pcmarpxy.mine.nu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73788-02; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:31:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV1.mwrwin2k.se (kalendar.mine.nu [192.168.0.4]) by pcmarpxy.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6913D7526; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:31:50 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:31:49 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Message-ID: <4789E43478F3994BB8D967C73FD9C6884EEF@EXCHSRV1.mwrwin2k.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Vinum stripe values table? Thread-Index: AcNwCSyrlruy+P08Rx+BfzgBY9EaKAAn3jhAAAGDImA= From: "mark rowlands" To: "J.A. Terranson" , Subject: RE: Vinum stripe values table? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:31:53 -0000 And in retrospect I could have a) written in English and b) been more crystally clear.... 8190kb was the stripe size finally plumped for. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of mark rowlands Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:14 PM To: J.A. Terranson; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Vinum stripe values table? > J.A. Terranson > The values to plug into vinum for stripe size has always been vague, > other than avoiding a power of 2. =20 Where is the vagueness here? "A good guideline for stripe size is between 256 kB and 512 kB. Avoid powers of 2, however: they tend to cause all superblocks to be placed on the first subdisk." > Is there any way to calculate an=20 > optimal value? Or is there a table anywhere? I did some work on this and came to the unsurprising conclusion of "it depends"=20 The needs of a database server / web server / ftp server / user file server are not equivalent, in addition, obviously the exact layout of "your" vinum configuration plays a non-trivial part.=20 > Given an 8 drive raid5 array, where each drive is an identical 4096m > drive, where do I start? You have already started when you created an Raid 5 configuration ;-)=20 Well, I created my vinum configuration, made some wild guesses as to what=20 I was going to be using it for (mostly web-serving of files of the order of 4-5MB) and then ran some tests, measuring both with bonnie and vinum's builtin statistics using different stripe sizes and increasing numbers of concurrent transactions, using both bonnie and scripted file transfers to generate disc i/o.=20 Overall, with my config 4 disks striped raid 0 on an promise ide controllers (real men always run Raid 0 !) an 8k stripe seemed to function well for me in this distinctly unscientific test scenario. Real world performance....it's ok....could it be better, probably. But it's good enough for what this machine does. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 10:42:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFC116A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A573443FAF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:42:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from panix.com (brillig.panix.com [166.84.1.76]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA4148B0F for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (pcp01010374pcs.mplsnt01.sc.comcast.net [68.58.176.69]) by panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758DA2AA10 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19tshG-00076l-00 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:42:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:42:34 -0400 From: stan To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20030901174234.GA27192@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.21 X-Uptime: 13:34:20 up 18 days, 6:31, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.20, 0.24 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: Galeon2 open menu question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:42:53 -0000 I"m trying to set up a machine using Gnome2. One of the chages (aparently) is that I seem to need to be running "Galen2" Well, like a lot of the other gnome 2 stuff it seems to be sunstainly less featurfull than the Gnome 1.4 stuff I' acustomed to, So, on to a specif question. When I type "CTRL O" in Galeon (the original, I get a nice URL entry popup. In Gnome 2 I get (believe it ot not) a FILE open window. Last time I check this application was a WWW browser, not a file manager (like I need one of those ?). So, can I change this behavior? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 10:56:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7993D16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out001.verizon.net (out001pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FB543FCB for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:56:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.160.1.150]) by out001.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030901175623.XDRP1299.out001.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:56:23 -0500 Received: from keyslapper.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h81HuPUc056419 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:56:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by keyslapper.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h81HuPoP056418 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:56:24 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030901175624.GB55612@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20030831234028.GA7528@keyslapper.org> <3F52C558.4020503@netcabo.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3F52C558.4020503@netcabo.pt> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out001.verizon.net from [68.160.1.150] at Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:56:23 -0500 Subject: Re: multimedia/MMX, Celeron CPU, and the kernel config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:56:25 -0000 On 09/01/03 05:04 AM, Ricardo Mesquita sat at the `puter and typed: > Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > Hey all. I've just installed the mplayer and mplayerxp ports for > > video support. I've never quite had it right with aviplay and > > plaympeg, but I never quite understood why. > > > > Well, when I run mplayer, I get the following: > > > > CPU: Intel Celeron A Mendocino/Pentium II Dixon (Family: 6, Stepping: 0) > > Detected cache-line size is 32 bytes > > CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0 > > Compiled with Runtime CPU Detection - WARNING - this is not optimal! > > To get best performance, recompile MPlayer with --disable-runtime-cpudetection > > > > And mplayerxp gives the following: > > CPU vendor name: GenuineIntel max cpuid level: 2 > > CPU: Intel Celeron A Mendocino/Pentium II Dixon (Type: 6, Stepping: 0) > > MMX supported but disabled > > CPUflags: Type: 6 MMX: 0 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0 > > Compiled for x86 CPU with features: 3DNow 3DNowEx SSE > > > > So I'm confused as to whether I've got the best configuration for my > > custom kernel. Is there a way I can discover the exact model of my > > cpu without cracking the case? > > .... > > > Thanks! > > Lou > > Check x86info Thanks a lot! This gives quite a lot of info about the chip: Family: 6 Model: 6 Stepping: 0 Type: 0 Brand: 0 CPU Model: Celeron (Mendocino) Original OEM Feature flags: Onboard FPU Virtual Mode Extensions Debugging Extensions Page Size Extensions Time Stamp Counter Model-Specific Registers Physical Address Extensions Machine Check Architecture CMPXCHG8 instruction SYSENTER/SYSEXIT Memory Type Range Registers Page Global Enable Machine Check Architecture CMOV instruction Page Attribute Table 36-bit PSEs MMX support FXSAVE and FXRESTORE instructions Extended feature flags: Instruction TLB: 4KB pages, 4-way associative, 32 entries Instruction TLB: 4MB pages, fully associative, 2 entries Data TLB: 4KB pages, 4-way associative, 64 entries L2 unified cache: Size: 128KB 4-way associative. line size=32 bytes. L1 Instruction cache: Size: 16KB 4-way associative. line size=32 bytes. Data TLB: 4MB pages, 4-way associative, 8 entries L1 Data cache: Size: 16KB 4-way associative. line size=32 bytes. /dev/cpu/0/msr: No such file or directory Connector type: Socket 370 (370 Pin PGA) MTRR registers: MTRRcap (0xfe): MTRRphysBase0 (0x200): MTRRphysMask0 (0x201): MTRRphysBase1 (0x202): MTRRphysMask1 (0x203): MTRRphysBase2 (0x204): MTRRphysMask2 (0x205): MTRRphysBase3 (0x206): MTRRphysMask3 (0x207): MTRRphysBase4 (0x208): MTRRphysMask4 (0x209): MTRRphysBase5 (0x20a): MTRRphysMask5 (0x20b): MTRRphysBase6 (0x20c): MTRRphysMask6 (0x20d): MTRRphysBase7 (0x20e): MTRRphysMask7 (0x20f): MTRRfix64K_00000 (0x250): MTRRfix16K_80000 (0x258): MTRRfix16K_A0000 (0x259): MTRRfix4K_C8000 (0x269): MTRRfix4K_D0000 0x26a: MTRRfix4K_D8000 0x26b: MTRRfix4K_E0000 0x26c: MTRRfix4K_E8000 0x26d: MTRRfix4K_F0000 0x26e: MTRRfix4K_F8000 0x26f: MTRRdefType (0x2ff): 400MHz processor (estimate). Now, I realize no one will want to make 'supported' or 'guaranteed' recommendations, but I would certainly appreciate some pointers on taking the above information and determining the ideal CPU options to use in my kernel. I looked at the handbook, and can't find any such details or links. My main goal is to find out what CPU features are disabled through the kernel config, and enable them - particularly MMX support. Finally, I noticed my message log from bootup has the following: Features=0x183f9ff Does this specify just detection or kernel config? It appears to match the features detected by x86info. Thanks for all the help! Lou -- Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ aphorism, n.: A concise, clever statement. afterism, n.: A concise, clever statement you don't think of until too late. -- James Alexander Thom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 11:10:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86EEF16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt26.cluster1.charter.net (remt26.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EC443FF9 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:10:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glennpj@charter.net) Received: from [24.158.214.251] (HELO gforce.johnson.home) by remt26.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 139566705 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:10:07 -0400 Received: from gforce.johnson.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gforce.johnson.home (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h81IA5R6000876 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:10:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn@gforce.johnson.home) Received: (from glenn@localhost) by gforce.johnson.home (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h81IA5KB000875 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:10:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from glenn) From: Glenn Johnson Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:10:05 -0500 To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20030901181005.GA850@gforce.johnson.home> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list References: <20030901174234.GA27192@teddy.fas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030901174234.GA27192@teddy.fas.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: Galeon2 open menu question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:10:13 -0000 On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 01:42:34PM -0400, stan wrote: > I"m trying to set up a machine using Gnome2. One of the chages > (aparently) is that I seem to need to be running "Galen2" Well, like > a lot of the other gnome 2 stuff it seems to be sunstainly less > featurfull than the Gnome 1.4 stuff I' acustomed to, > > So, on to a specif question. When I type "CTRL O" in Galeon (the > original, I get a nice URL entry popup. In Gnome 2 I get (believe it > ot not) a FILE open window. Last time I check this application was a > WWW browser, not a file manager (like I need one of those ?). > > So, can I change this behavior? You want to type "CTRL-L". This is pretty much the standard shortcut to enter a URL, even IE uses "CTRL-L" -- Glenn Johnson glennpj@charter.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 11:15:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6959616A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt24.cluster1.charter.net (remt24.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B006C44097 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:13:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from [66.168.145.25] (HELO moe) by remt24.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 143312890; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:13:10 -0400 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'Kent Stewart'" , "'ODHIAMBO Washington'" Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:13:02 -0500 Message-ID: <003301c370b4$af41b8d0$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200308311745.03944.kstewart@owt.com> Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: scripting the buildworld/installworld process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:15:07 -0000 Well, here are my current versions of the update scripts. I hope they are complicated enough for everyone. Contrary to Kent's suggestion, I'm only logging the last 10 lines of the important commands. I defer to his experience and knowledge, but I can't see the value in logging 7500 lines of code that executed correctly. Let's just get the last 10 lines, since that's where any errors will be. Comments, suggestions, flames? ------------------------------ #!/usr/local/bin/bash # # Update the system, run in multi-user mode. # # Checks the exit status of all important commands, # Exits on exit status of anything other than 0,=20 # Prints the name of the command that failed. # Logs the last 10 lines of screen output for important commands. bailout() { if [ $? -ne 0 ] ; then echo "Update1 has bailed out on error $?" echo "The command that failed was..." echo $cmd exit fi } echo -n "Have you read /usr/src/UPDATING? [y/n]: " read a if [ $a =3D n ] ; then less /usr/src/UPDATING exit fi echo -n "Have you merged /etc/group and /usr/src/etc/group? [y/n]: " read b if [ $b =3D n ] ; then diff -c /etc/group /usr/src/etc/group | less exit fi echo -n "Have you merged /etc/master.passwd and /usr/src/etc/master.passwd? [y/n]: " read c if [ $c =3D n ] ; then diff -c /etc/master.passwd /usr/src/etc/master.passwd exit fi cmd=3D"cp /disk2/larry/etc/make.conf /etc" cp /disk2/larry/etc/make.conf /etc bailout cmd=3D"cp /disk2/larry/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/CUSTOM /usr/src/sys/i386/conf" cp /disk2/larry/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/CUSTOM /usr/src/sys/i386/conf bailout cmd=3D"Clean out /usr/obj" echo -n "Clean out /usr/obj? [y/n]: " read d if [ $d =3D y ] ; then cd /usr/obj chflags -R noschg * rm -rf * fi bailout echo -n "Continue with build? [y/n]: " read e if [ $e =3D n ] ; then exit fi cmd=3D"make buildworld" cd /usr/src echo "Time for buildworld:" > /var/log/build/build.log \time -aho /var/log/build/build.log make buildworld 2>&1 | tee /var/log/build/tmp.log | tail /var/log/build/tmp.log > /var/log/build/buildworld-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log bailout echo >> /var/log/build/build.log rm /var/log/build/tmp.log cmd=3D"make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC" echo "Time for buildkernel GENERIC:" >> /var/log/build/build.log \time -aho /var/log/build/build.log make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC 2>&1 | tee /var/log/build/tmp.log | tail /var/log/build/tmp.log > /var/log/build/buildkernG-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log bailout echo >> /var/log/build/build.log rm /var/log/build/tmp.log cmd=3D"make installkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC" echo "Time for installkernel GENERIC:" >> /var/log/build/build.log \time -aho /var/log/build/build.log make installkernel = KERNCONF=3DGENERIC 2>&1 | tee /var/log/build/tmp.log | tail /var/log/build/tmp.log > /var/log/build/installkernG-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log bailout echo >> /var/log/build/build.log rm /var/log/build/tmp.log cmd=3D"make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DCUSTOM" cp /boot/kernel /boot/kernel.GENERIC echo "Time for buildkernel CUSTOM:" >> /var/log/build/build.log \time -aho /var/log/build/build.log make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DCUSTOM 2>&1 | tee /var/log/build/tmp.log | tail /var/log/build/tmp.log > /var/log/build/buildkernC-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log bailout echo >> /var/log/build/build.log rm /var/log/build/tmp.log cmd=3D"make installkernel KERNCONF=3DCUSTOM" echo "Time for installkernel CUSTOM:" >> /var/log/build/build.log \time -aho /var/log/build/build.log make installkernel KERNCONF=3DCUSTOM 2>&1 | tee /var/log/build/tmp.log | tail /var/log/build/tmp.log > /var/log/build/installkernC-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log bailout echo >> /var/log/build/build.log rm /var/log/build/tmp.log echo "Reboot to single user mode and run /disk2/larry/bin/update2" ------------------------------ #!/usr/local/bin/bash # # Update the system. Run in single user mode. bailout () { if [ $? -ne 0 ] ; then echo "Update2 has bailed out on exit status $?" echo "The command that failed was..." echo $cmd exit fi } echo -n "Continue with installworld? [y/n]: " read a=20 if [ $a =3D n ] ; then exit fi cmd=3D"make installworld" echo -n "Time for installworld:" >> /var/log/build/build.log \time -aho /var/log/build/build.log make installworld | tee /var/log/build/tmp.log | tail /var/log/build/tmp.log > /var/log/build/instworld-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H:%M"`.log bailout echo >> /var/log/build/build.log rm /var/log/build/tmp.log Cmd=3D"cp -Rp /etc /etc.old" if [ -d /etc.old ] ; then rm -r /etc.old fi =20 cp -Rp /etc /etc.old Bailout Cmd=3D"rm -r /var/tmp/temproot" if [ -d /var/tmp/temproot ] ; then cd /var/tmp/temproot chflags -R noschg * cd rm -r /var/tmp/temproot Fi bailout Cmd=3D"mergemaster -a" /usr/sbin/mergemaster -a bailout Cmd=3D"./MAKEDEV all" cd /dev ./MAKEDEV all bailout cmd=3D"make clean" cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall echo -n "Time for make clean:" >> /var/log/build/build.log \time -aho /var/log/build/build.log make clean | tee /var/log/build/tmp.log | tail /var/log/build/tmp.log > /var/log/build/make_clean-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H:%M"`.log bailout echo >> /var/log/build/build.log rm /var/log/build/tmp.log cmd=3D"make all install" echo "Time for make all install:" >> /var/log/build/build.log \time -aho /var/log/build/build.log make all install | tee /var/log/build/tmp.log | tail /var/log/build/tmp.log > /var/log/build/make_all_install-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H:%M"`.log bailout echo >> /var/log/build/build.log rm /var/log/build/tmp.log echo "Finished! Do ps and top work?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 11:25:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E4316A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B67844011 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:24:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h81IOf204533; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:24:42 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: "Charles Howse" , "'ODHIAMBO Washington'" Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:24:40 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <003301c370b4$af41b8d0$04fea8c0@moe> In-Reply-To: <003301c370b4$af41b8d0$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309011124.40119.kstewart@owt.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scripting the buildworld/installworld process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:25:06 -0000 On Monday 01 September 2003 11:13 am, Charles Howse wrote: > Well, here are my current versions of the update scripts. > I hope they are complicated enough for everyone. > > Contrary to Kent's suggestion, I'm only logging the last 10 lines of > the important commands. I defer to his experience and knowledge, but > I can't see the value in logging 7500 lines of code that executed > correctly. Let's just get the last 10 lines, since that's where any > errors will be. > > Comments, suggestions, flames? > I don't think 10 is enough. Wash has a buildworld problem on current and, on his listing, you would only make it about half way through the error 1 messages and may miss the one that means something. I log for a different reason. If you had one die and I didn't, I want to be able to show you that I made it past where yours errored off. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 11:29:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C9A16A4C1 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A624044116 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:26:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hhasenbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19ttKB-0002Y7-01; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:22:47 +0200 Received: from techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Zef+WTZJQeKU-K2ngbn++79rn9h4fxHjTNXpNFvu9dHXo6P2OLMuEr@[217.225.20.53]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19ttK5-0KSUbo0; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 20:22:41 +0200 Message-ID: <3F538E6E.20000@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:22:38 +0200 From: Hendrik Hasenbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030831 X-Accept-Language: German, de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030831234028.GA7528@keyslapper.org> <3F52C558.4020503@netcabo.pt> <20030901175624.GB55612@keyslapper.org> In-Reply-To: <20030901175624.GB55612@keyslapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Seen: false X-ID: Zef+WTZJQeKU-K2ngbn++79rn9h4fxHjTNXpNFvu9dHXo6P2OLMuEr@t-dialin.net Subject: Re: multimedia/MMX, Celeron CPU, and the kernel config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:29:36 -0000 Louis LeBlanc wrote: > Now, I realize no one will want to make 'supported' or 'guaranteed' > recommendations, but I would certainly appreciate some pointers on > taking the above information and determining the ideal CPU options to > use in my kernel. I looked at the handbook, and can't find any such > details or links. My main goal is to find out what CPU features are > disabled through the kernel config, and enable them - particularly MMX > support. You don't need to enable MMX in the kernel. Your mplayer had MMX on, the mplayerxp not I remember. Perhaps there is a switch for mplayerxp. > Features=0x183f9ff > Does this specify just detection or kernel config? I would call it detection. Hendrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 11:38:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098A516A4C1 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494C343FF2 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:37:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Robertdkeys@aol.com) Received: from Robertdkeys@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id n.fb.45e01620 (3699); Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:37:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Robertdkeys@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:37:51 EDT To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 109 cc: Robertdkeys@aol.com Subject: FreeBSD 5.1 i386 not allowing incoming ftp connects? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:38:13 -0000 I am trying to set up a FreeBSD 5.1 i386 box. Everything seems to be fine, except, incoming ftp is all rejected. Inetd.conf is set to allow ftp. Is there another switch to set somewhere to allow all incoming ftp? If so, what/where? Thanks Bob Keys From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 11:40:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EB916A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spxgate.servplex.com (ip66-105-58-82.z58-105-66.customer.algx.net [66.105.58.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50D643FE5 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@servplex.com) Received: from peter.servplex.com ([192.168.0.96]) by spxgate.servplex.com (8.12.8/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h81Iq04C008522; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:52:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from peter@servplex.com) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030901133925.011b7260@mail.servplex.com> X-Sender: peter@mail.servplex.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:40:33 -0500 To: nelis@brabys.co.za From: Peter Elsner In-Reply-To: <1062417582.90127.90.camel@enigma.8ball.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: libc.so.3 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:40:32 -0000 Probably the compatibility libraries... /usr/ports/misc/compat22, compat3x, compat4x Peter Elsner At 01:59 PM 9/1/2003 +0200, you wrote: >Hi, > >Running a program ( Mcafee Viruscan ) and I get the following: > >pandora# ./uvscan >/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.3" not found > >I'm using 4.8 Stable. Which port will give me this library ? > >Thanks! > >Nelis > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Peter Elsner Vice President Of Customer Service (And System Administrator) 1835 S. Carrier Parkway Grand Prairie, Texas 75051 (972) 263-2080 - Voice (972) 263-2082 - Fax (972) 489-4838 - Cell Phone From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 11:44:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6F616A4BF; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (duey.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D488543FBD; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:44:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011A91FEA8; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:44:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (duey.wolves.k12.mo.us [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12036-02-10; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:44:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 643311FE22; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:44:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6269E1C55F; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:44:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:44:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: Denis Troshin In-Reply-To: <29508631.20030901165843@mail.ru> Message-ID: <20030901132021.F11735@duey.wolves.k12.mo.us> References: <29508631.20030901165843@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at wolves.k12.mo.us cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ugly Huge BSD Monster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:44:28 -0000 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Denis Troshin wrote: > Almost every package I install requires a few other packages. This > 'idea of using dependent packages' turns FreeBSD (and other > unix-systems) to an ugly monster. At least the dependencies are taken care of for you automatically in FreeBSD, unlike some systems which require you to download and install each depedency manually. > For example, I don't need Perl or Python but a few packages I > install require them. > > Does exist a programming under unix without these dependencies? > > P.S. Under Windows it is possible to write not bad applications > which depend just on libraries (KERNEL32, USER32, GDI32). And these > libs exist on every base system!!! I have to deal with creating internal distribution packages for all kinds of Windows software just about every day, and the dependencies for Windows software can be much worse, especially for Microsoft's own software which seems to be among the worst. Microsoft Office XP alone depends on (when installed on a base Windows 98SE installation), no less than Microsoft Installer 2.x (MSI), Internet Explorer 6, MDAC, and several other non-Office bits and pieces that don't come to mind right now. Granted, they are included in the Office XP installer and it will install all of this by itself if you don't have any of them installed, but they are indeed separate depedencies. I break as many depedencies as I possibly can out of a particular piece of software into separate distribution packages with their own dependency chains. The FreeBSD ports/packages system just happens to already do this to a high degree, because it is a good idea. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon(at)wolves.k12.mo.us FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet - Available for IA32, IA64, PC98, Alpha, and UltraSPARC architectures - x86-64, PowerPC, ARM, MIPS, and S/390 under development - http://www.freebsd.org No trees were harmed in the composition of this message, although some electrons were mildly inconvenienced. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 12:14:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F94216A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FE043FEC for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:14:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h81JE0207379; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:14:00 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: "Charles Howse" , "'ODHIAMBO Washington'" Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:14:00 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <000101c370b7$44405a20$04fea8c0@moe> In-Reply-To: <000101c370b7$44405a20$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309011214.00268.kstewart@owt.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scripting the buildworld/installworld process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 19:14:15 -0000 On Monday 01 September 2003 11:31 am, Charles Howse wrote: > > I don't think 10 is enough. Wash has a buildworld problem on > > current and, on his listing, you would only make it about half way > > through the > > error 1 messages and may miss the one that means something. > > > > I log for a different reason. If you had one die and I > > didn't, I want to > > be able to show you that I made it past where yours errored off. > > Good enough, but otherwise? Most of the time, you only need to see the last 4 or 5. I think that I only look at one of my builds to see the "chmod 444 freebsd.cf" and fire up the next script. BTW, If you add both of your kernels to /etc/make.conf, you would only need one buildkernel. The first one is the one that is installed. I have it commented now but I used to use #KERNCONF=RUBY GENERIC to build both and install just RUBY. I got so that I liked the logs separated and changed how I did things. RUBY is my fastest machine was designed to build kernels for other systems and then nfs_mount src and obj on the other machines and install them this way. When I strickly started shutting down to single user mode, it wasn't a normal option. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 12:23:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922AB16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsl-mail.kamp.net (mail.kamp-dsl.de [195.62.99.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36A1D43FAF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:23:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: (qmail 4392 invoked by uid 505); 1 Sep 2003 19:23:11 -0000 Received: from root@pukruppa.de by dsl-mail by uid 502 with qmail-scanner-1.14 (spamassassin: 2.43. Clear:. Processed in 0.169614 secs); 01 Sep 2003 19:23:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reverse-213-146-114-24.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) (213.146.114.24) by dsl-mail.kamp.net with SMTP; 1 Sep 2003 19:23:11 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:29:39 +0200 (CEST) From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa " X-X-Sender: root@pukruppa.net To: Robertdkeys@aol.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030901212634.O29937@pukruppa.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.1 i386 not allowing incoming ftp connects? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 19:23:02 -0000 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 Robertdkeys@aol.com wrote: > I am trying to set up a FreeBSD 5.1 i386 box. Everything seems > to be fine, except, incoming ftp is all rejected. Inetd.conf is set to > allow ftp. Is there another switch to set somewhere to allow all > incoming ftp? If so, what/where? Do you have inetd_enable="Yes" in your /etc/rc.conf ? Then reboot (or perhaps executing # /etc/netstart will do). Regards, Uli. > > Thanks > > Bob Keys > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > +---------------------------+ | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | | Wuppertal | | Germany | +---------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 13:11:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AC716A4C1 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt30.cluster1.charter.net (remt30.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B374F43FEC for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from [66.168.145.25] (HELO moe) by remt30.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 11856840; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:11:27 -0400 From: "Charles Howse" To: "'Kent Stewart'" , "'ODHIAMBO Washington'" Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:11:17 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c370c5$35a88290$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200309011214.00268.kstewart@owt.com> Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: scripting the buildworld/installworld process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:11:32 -0000 > Most of the time, you only need to see the last 4 or 5. I=20 > think that I=20 > only look at one of my builds to see the "chmod 444 freebsd.cf" and=20 > fire up the next script. OK, I understand. I think I will go ahead and change tail to tail -n 50. That should provide plenty of feedback, eh? >=20 > BTW, If you add both of your kernels to /etc/make.conf, you=20 > would only=20 > need one buildkernel. The first one is the one that is installed. I=20 > have it commented now but I used to use >=20 > #KERNCONF=3DRUBY GENERIC >=20 > to build both and install just RUBY. I got so that I liked the logs=20 I thought it would be a good idea to install both GENERIC and CUSTOM kernels, so that I could boot to GENERIC if necessary. So, if I add KERNCONF=3DGENERIC CUSTOM to make.conf, then the generic kernel is installed as /boot/kernel, and I can cp /boot/kernel /boot/kernel.GENERIC. Then I can do installkernel KERNCONF=3DCUSTOM, and that will install the custom kernel as /boot/kernel, and that will be the default to boot...? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 13:21:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E84516A4C0; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEE343FA3; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:21:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from mail.messagingengine.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAE2162FCC; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:21:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 10.202.2.150 ([10.202.2.150] helo=mail.messagingengine.com) by messagingengine.com with SMTP; Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:21:46 -0400 X-Epoch: 1062447706 X-Sasl-enc: /1JQwrIzHOFVWNcMi85pow Received: from sparky (dialup-67.74.79.135.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [67.74.79.135]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F6E1613FE; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:21:44 -0400 (EDT) To: Tadimeti Keshav , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <20030901120608.50156.qmail@web60002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: From: Jud Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:21:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20030901120608.50156.qmail@web60002.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Opera7.20/Win32 M2 build 3082 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: modem setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:21:50 -0000 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:06:08 +0100 (BST), Tadimeti Keshav wrote: > Hi Guys, > I have the foll. set up > 28 GB --> FreeBSD 4.5 > 10 GB --> Redhat 9.0 > >> From Redhat I use an Internet connection wizard that > gives me a lot of options. I picked up the dialer > option, then give the phone number to connect to my > university WIndows NT server, then my login and > password. Viola, I am connected to the internet. > I have a Creative External modem V.90 > > Is there no way to do this in FreeBSD? I read the man > pages (dial-in and dial-out), they are way over my > head. At least one thing has changed in the 3+ years since the article was written: A user who wishes to use a dial-up connection must be a member of the 'dialer' group. Jud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 13:22:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684DB16A511 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E9943FCB for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:22:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from grimoire.chen.org.nz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chen.org.nz (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h81KMDoI001930; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 08:22:14 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc@grimoire.chen.org.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by grimoire.chen.org.nz (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h81KMCDA001929; Tue, 2 Sep 2003 08:22:12 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 08:22:12 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Alex Zivenko Message-ID: <20030901202212.GD1775@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <000001c3709f$8f45e7a0$0400a8c0@fire> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c3709f$8f45e7a0$0400a8c0@fire> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to run PostgreSQL on boot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:22:17 -0000 On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 06:21:12PM +0300, Alex Zivenko wrote: > Hi all! > I need to run Postgresql server on startup. It means, that I need to start postmaster every boot. How can I do this? If you installed via the ports-system, it installs: /usr/local/etc/rc/010.pgsql.sh which starts up postgresql on boot. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Only the meek get pinched. The bold survive." - Ferris Bueller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 13:35:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1C516A4BF; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C29143FE1; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h81KYlrO075166; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:34:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)h81KYlMf075163; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:34:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Denis Troshin In-Reply-To: <29508631.20030901165843@mail.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ugly Huge BSD Monster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:35:27 -0000 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Denis Troshin wrote: > Almost every package I install requires a few other packages. This 'idea > of using dependent packages' turns FreeBSD (and other unix-systems) to > an ugly monster. > > For example, I don't need Perl or Python but a few packages I install > require them. > > Does exist a programming under unix without these dependencies? > > P.S. Under Windows it is possible to write not bad applications which > depend just on libraries (KERNEL32, USER32, GDI32). And these libs > exist on every base system!!! > > Is it possible in unix? > > Before I thought that unix programs very compact, but they are huge! You've already got a boatload of responses, but I figured I'd throw in mine: it depends on the application. If applications require a scripting language, by virtue of what they do or how they are written, well, you get a scripting language in the dependencies. To get a Windows-like environment on FreeBSD, you need to layer the X server and then a toolkit/windowing environment on top -- my personal leaning right now is to stick QT/KDE on top. Once you have those pieces in place, you have a lot of what you need to write general-purpose applications interacting with users, the network, multimedia, etc. If you look at some of the "key" UNIX software packages, however, you'll see that they tend not to have a lot of dependencies -- Apache, Postgres, MySQL, etc. These applications avoid dependencies through less reliance on scripting, GUI elements, etc. One of the upsides, and downsides, of the open source world is a strong dependence on scripting, and the resulting diversification of scripting languages and rapid prototyping tools. This occurs in the Windows world also, though -- if you rely on Java, you need the JVM. If you have TCL applications, you need the TCL environment as well. Many web sites running on Windows use Perl for CGI just as they do in UNIX, in which case you need Perl... One of the nice things about this package-oriented approach is that the dependencies are generally very explicit: you want to write a gui app, so you need the gui pieces. Your application requires a back-end database, so a database dependency is introduced. In Windows, you have a larger "base" but less ability to decompose as a result. I'm also a bit alarmed when I install a new application and pick up two new scripting languages along the way -- I tend to avoid installing applications that pull in scripting as a dependency. However, sometimes that's unavoidable. In Windows, I think you'll find applications depend on more in the way of libraries than you think, though... Upgrades to system dlls when you build and install applications are not infrequent -- application vendors tend to "quietly bundle" all the dependent runtime components and quietly install them.... Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 13:46:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7277116A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out001.verizon.net (out001pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BA343F75 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.160.1.150]) by out001.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030901204610.YLOF1299.out001.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:46:10 -0500 Received: from keyslapper.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h81KkCUc058503 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:46:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by keyslapper.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h81KkCPk058490 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:46:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:46:12 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030901204611.GA57316@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030831234028.GA7528@keyslapper.org> <3F52C558.4020503@netcabo.pt> <20030901175624.GB55612@keyslapper.org> <3F538E6E.20000@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3F538E6E.20000@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out001.verizon.net from [68.160.1.150] at Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:46:09 -0500 Subject: Re: multimedia/MMX, Celeron CPU, and the kernel config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:46:12 -0000 On 09/01/03 08:22 PM, Hendrik Hasenbein sat at the `puter and typed: > Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > Now, I realize no one will want to make 'supported' or 'guaranteed' > > recommendations, but I would certainly appreciate some pointers on > > taking the above information and determining the ideal CPU options to > > use in my kernel. I looked at the handbook, and can't find any such > > details or links. My main goal is to find out what CPU features are > > disabled through the kernel config, and enable them - particularly MMX > > support. > > You don't need to enable MMX in the kernel. Your mplayer had MMX on, the > mplayerxp not I remember. Perhaps there is a switch for mplayerxp. > > > Features=0x183f9ff > > Does this specify just detection or kernel config? > > I would call it detection. > > Hendrik Thank you. Glad I checked before just rebuilding. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Optimization hinders evolution. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 13:50:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209DE16A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pink.seudns.net (200-204-93-166.dsl.telesp.net.br [200.204.93.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1114543FBF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 13:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ale@seudns.net) Received: (qmail 18535 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2003 20:48:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO seudns.net) (200.162.45.82) by 200-204-93-166.dsl.telesp.net.br with SMTP; 1 Sep 2003 20:48:51 -0000 Message-ID: <3F53B0F1.5020306@seudns.net> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:49:53 -0300 From: Alexandre Biancalana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030808 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: emulators/vmware2 broken... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:50:04 -0000 Hi All, I'm fighting with the following problem to install emulators/vmware2. cc -O -pipe -I/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/include -I/usr/ports/emulators/vmwa e2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/common -I/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd I/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/export/include -I/sys -I/usr/ports/emulators/vmwar 2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/../vmnet-only/freebsd/ -DCDEV_MAJOR_=200 -DSMP -DAPIC_IO -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wre undant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual - format-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-onl /include -I/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/common -I/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/wo k/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd -I/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/export/includ -I/sys -I/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/../vmnet-only/freebsd/ -I. -I@ -I@/../inc ude -I/usr/include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -c /usr/ports/emulators/vmw re2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/hostif.c /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/hostif.c: In function `FindMPN': /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/hostif.c:184: invalid operands to binary >> /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/hostif.c:188: invalid type argument of `una y *' /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/hostif.c: In function `HostIF_LookupUserMPN : /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/hostif.c:185: warning: `pte' might be used ninitialized in this function /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/hostif.c: In function `HostIF_LockPage': /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/hostif.c:185: warning: `pte' might be used ninitialized in this function /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/hostif.c:185: warning: `pte' might be used ninitialized in this function /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/hostif.c: In function `CheckFunc': /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/hostif.c:185: warning: `pte' might be used ninitialized in this function *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2. That's my machine: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Aug 30 17:49:40 BRT 2003 root@Cruel:/usr/src/sys/compile/Cruel Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 860884854 Hz CPU: Intel Pentium III (860.88-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 268091392 (261808K bytes) avail memory = 257105920 (251080K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03b5000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00fbc30 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf4000000-0xf7ffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 9 pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xec80-0xecff mem 0xfbfffc00-0xfbfffc7f irq 5 at device 12.0 on pci2 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:b0:d0:50:c9:a7 miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3c905C 10/100 internal PHY> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xff80-0xff9f irq 11 at device 31.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2413) at 31.3 irq 10 pcm0: port 0xdc80-0xdcbf,0xd800-0xd8ff irq 10 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: orm0:

Does FreeBSD support C++ or support C only?

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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 06:09:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF51B16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1504D43FF2 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vGLp-0001BE-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:10:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vGLl-0001B3-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:10:05 +0200 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vGLI-0008CN-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:09:36 +0200 From: "Scott I. Remick" Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:09:35 -0400 Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Archive: encrypt User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.5.1 Sender: news Subject: Re: VNC & ssh tunneling problem: getsockopt TCP_NODELAY error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: scott@sremick.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:09:43 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:58:16 +0100 (BST), Jan Grant wrote: > Loks like the VNC srever isn't listening at that location. Is it > running? Yep: -bash-2.05b$ ps PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 60273 p0- S 0:00.49 Xvnc :1 -desktop X -httpd /usr/local/share/vnc/classes 60277 p0- S 0:00.20 /usr/X11R6/bin/blackbox 61709 p0 Is 0:00.03 bash 80005 p1 Is 0:00.02 bash 96020 p2 Ss 0:00.01 -bash (bash) 96025 p2 R+ 0:00.00 ps 490 v0 I 0:00.01 -bash (bash) 61622 v0 I+ 0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx 61634 v0 I+ 0:00.01 xinit /home/scott/.xinitrc -- -nolisten tcp 61640 v0 I 0:00.00 sh /home/scott/.xinitrc 61641 v0 I 0:01.31 /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session 61644 v0 S 0:01.62 /usr/X11R6/libexec/gconfd-2 13 Blackbox is the wm being started from ~/.vnc/xstartup since I normally use gnome. And I'm forwarding the ports in PuTTY: 2003-09-05 09:02:56 Local port 7001 forwarding to localhost:5901 2003-09-05 09:02:56 Local port 7002 forwarding to localhost:5902 2003-09-05 09:02:56 Local port 7003 forwarding to localhost:5903 (the same port-forwarding that worked for me before). On the Windows system, I then VNC to localhost:7001 which triggers that error on the VNC box. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 06:23:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0BB16A4BF; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sizone.org (mortar.sizone.org [65.126.154.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AB843FF7; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:23:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@daveg.ca) Received: by sizone.org (Postfix, from userid 66) id 37AD32FFC7; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by canoe.velocet.net (Postfix, from userid 101) id 08B7D1D1C4A; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:23:06 -0400 (EDT) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16216.36410.889440.499438@canoe.velocet.net> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:23:06 -0400 To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: <64330.1062619621@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <3F5647F3.5080502@he.iki.fi> <64330.1062619621@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under 21.4 (patch 12) "Portable Code" XEmacs Lucid cc: Petri Helenius cc: Max Clark cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org cc: Geoff Buckingham cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 20TB Storage System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:23:10 -0000 >>>>> "Poul-Henning" == Poul-Henning Kamp writes: Poul-Henning> In message <3F5647F3.5080502@he.iki.fi>, Petri Helenius Poul-Henning> writes: >> fsck problem should be gone with less inodes and less blocks since >> if I read the code correctly, memory is consumed according to used >> inodes and blocks so having like 20000 inodes and 64k blocks should >> allow you to build 5-20T filesystem and actually fsck them. Poul-Henning> I am not sure I would advocate 64k blocks yet. Poul-Henning> I tend to stick with 32k block, 4k fragment myself. Poul-Henning> This is a problem which is in the cross-hairs for 6.x That reminds me... has anyone thought of designing the system to have more than 8 frags per block? Increasingly, for large file performance, we're pushing up the block size dramatically. This is with the assumption that large disks will contain large files. ... but I havn't seem that, myself. Large arrays that we run tend to have multiple system images (for diskless or semi-diskless operation) and many more thousands of users ... all with their usual complement of small files. It strikes me that driving the block size up (as far as 1M) and having a 256 (or so) fragments might become appropriate. We probably also need to address disks with larger block sizes soon, but that's another issue alltogether. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Independent Contractor. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dave@daveg.ca | equal if and only if they | |http://daveg.ca | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 06:34:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7991316A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suncom.rz.hu-berlin.de (suncom.rz.hu-berlin.de [141.20.1.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D153543FEC for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:34:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from h0444lp6@student.hu-berlin.de) Received: from kojo (wll195-37.wlan.hu-berlin.de [141.20.195.37]) by suncom.rz.hu-berlin.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11085 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:34:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: "h0444lp6" Cc: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:36:13 +0800 Message-ID: <000201c373b2$bf80d450$25c3148d@kojo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Subject: colored xterm window borders don't work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:34:25 -0000 Dear list I can't seem to get colored xterm window borders to work xterm -geometry 80x50 -fg blue -bg red & Works well, giving me blue letters on red background, but xterm -geometry 80x50 -fg blue -bg red -bd green & gives me just the same ... the -bd some_color flag doesn't work (see xterm(1)) any ideas what I am doing wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 06:40:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A862016A4BF; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F64343FF9; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85DeCTI010307; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:40:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: David Gilbert From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 05 Sep 2003 09:23:06 EDT." <16216.36410.889440.499438@canoe.velocet.net> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:40:12 +0200 Message-ID: <10306.1062769212@critter.freebsd.dk> cc: Petri Helenius cc: Max Clark cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org cc: Geoff Buckingham cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 20TB Storage System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:40:30 -0000 In message <16216.36410.889440.499438@canoe.velocet.net>, David Gilbert writes: >That reminds me... has anyone thought of designing the system to have >more than 8 frags per block? Increasingly, for large file >performance, we're pushing up the block size dramatically. This is >with the assumption that large disks will contain large files. > >It strikes me that driving the block size up (as far as 1M) and having >a 256 (or so) fragments might become appropriate. Sounds like a _great_ project for somebody :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 06:50:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC9316A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B2943FD7 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:50:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.no-ip.com[66.30.200.37]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20030905135039012007nms2e>; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:50:39 +0000 Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com [66.30.200.37] (may be forged)) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85DodFm002517; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:50:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h85DochQ002514; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:50:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: be-well.ilk.org: lowell set sender to freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org using -f Sender: lowell@be-well.no-ip.com To: Radko Keves References: <20030903155030.GA46435@studnet.sk> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 05 Sep 2003 09:50:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20030903155030.GA46435@studnet.sk> Message-ID: <44k78n739t.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: saving kernel output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:50:42 -0000 Radko Keves writes: > is another way to save kernel output without dumb terminal or old > PC/XT till boot ? > > i read serialconsole-setup in handbook, but i think way without serial > console > > for example something like dmesg, but if kernel fails i want have saved > output too If the kernel fails to boot, there's no filesystem mounted, so a serial port console is your only real option. If the system comes up, the dmesg info is saved in /var/run/dmesg.boot... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 06:53:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3797A16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3D843FE3 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:53:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:53:02 +0100 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 19vGzU-0005vC-00; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:51:08 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:51:08 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: "Scott I. Remick" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Jan Grant cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VNC & ssh tunneling problem: getsockopt TCP_NODELAY error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:53:17 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Scott I. Remick wrote: > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:58:16 +0100 (BST), Jan Grant wrote: > > > Loks like the VNC srever isn't listening at that location. Is it > > running? > > Yep: > > -bash-2.05b$ ps > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > 60273 p0- S 0:00.49 Xvnc :1 -desktop X -httpd > /usr/local/share/vnc/classes > 60277 p0- S 0:00.20 /usr/X11R6/bin/blackbox > 61709 p0 Is 0:00.03 bash > 80005 p1 Is 0:00.02 bash > 96020 p2 Ss 0:00.01 -bash (bash) > 96025 p2 R+ 0:00.00 ps > 490 v0 I 0:00.01 -bash (bash) > 61622 v0 I+ 0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx > 61634 v0 I+ 0:00.01 xinit /home/scott/.xinitrc -- -nolisten tcp > 61640 v0 I 0:00.00 sh /home/scott/.xinitrc > 61641 v0 I 0:01.31 /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session > 61644 v0 S 0:01.62 /usr/X11R6/libexec/gconfd-2 13 > > Blackbox is the wm being started from ~/.vnc/xstartup since I normally use > gnome. And I'm forwarding the ports in PuTTY: > > 2003-09-05 09:02:56 Local port 7001 forwarding to localhost:5901 > 2003-09-05 09:02:56 Local port 7002 forwarding to localhost:5902 > 2003-09-05 09:02:56 Local port 7003 forwarding to localhost:5903 > > (the same port-forwarding that worked for me before). > > On the Windows system, I then VNC to localhost:7001 which triggers that > error on the VNC box. I'd still recommend double-checking with sockstat on the BSD box, (and netstat -an on the windows box, but I don't think that's the problem). -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 http://ioctl.org/jan/ Random act of violence against bread: whole pint. -- extract from the "Hawk the Slayer" drinking game From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 06:58:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBB816A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD55543FBF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:58:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.no-ip.com[66.30.200.37]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2003090513583701400rgamne>; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:58:37 +0000 Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com [66.30.200.37] (may be forged)) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85DwZFm002578; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:58:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h85DwZWN002575; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:58:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: be-well.ilk.org: lowell set sender to freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org using -f Sender: lowell@be-well.no-ip.com To: jesse@wingnet.net References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 05 Sep 2003 09:58:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44fzjb72wk.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: process memory peak recording X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:58:38 -0000 Jesse Guardiani writes: > During a recent programming/installation > project, I found myself wanting to know > the peak memory usage of a given command/process. > > Is there any way to gather this information > without recompiling an application with a > sleep or wait statement at the (assumed) > point of peak memory usage and then looking > at the process with 'ps'? Running under a debugger is one typical way of doing this. For strictly malloc(3)'d memory, a memory profiler will be an easier option. If I remember correctly, there is a choice of them in the ports system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 06:59:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4849916A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B7A43FAF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 06:59:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vH7c-0001hD-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:59:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vH7a-0001h1-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:59:30 +0200 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vH77-0001MF-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:59:01 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 09:59:00 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 107 Message-ID: References: <20030902083534.C61B216A513@hub.freebsd.org> <20030902170641.59003.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: CUPS, foomatic-rip, 4.8 RELEASE (was: How to get CUPS to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:59:07 -0000 Mark Terribile wrote: > > Todd: > >>>... Has anyone gotten CUPS working using the >>> foomatic-rip/gimp-print method [from] >>> Linuxprinting.org? I have an Epson Stylus C82 at >>> /dev/lpt0. >>> ... >> Looks like I got it. I installed the printer >> again using a different driver (one that for some >> reason did not show up the first time I tried) >> and it works now. > > I went through a hassle on the C82, and I don't know > that I could reproduce everything I did, I went through this hassle yesterday. I was up from 11:00PM to 5:30AM working on it. I thought it might be a good idea to take notes. Obviously, you've got to download the foomatic-rip script and the foomatic-gswrapper script from the linuxprinting.org site and follow the instructions there to install it, but here are the ADDITIONAL things I had to do to get the cups port/package working properly under FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE: (This may not all be necessary under 4.8-RELEASE. YMMV.) su mv /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cups.sh.sample /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cups.sh /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cups.sh start mkdir /var/log/cups touch /var/log/cups/access_log mkdir /usr/local/etc/cups/certs mkdir /var/spool/cups mkdir /usr/local/etc/cups/ppd mkdir /var/spool/cups/tmp I then configured my printer by following the instructions on Linuxprinting.org and pointing my browser to: http://localhost:631/ Also, if you want to use cups from the command line, via the lp* commands (this seems to be a requirement for GNOME/gtk* programs, since GNOME doesn't natively support cups yet), you need to do this: su mkdir /usr/bin/old-lp-commands mv /usr/bin/lp* /usr/bin/old-lp-commands ln -s /usr/local/bin/lp* /usr/bin The most important thing to remember is that any cups/web errors you receive will be debuggable in two ways: 1.) Check /var/log/cups/error_log If this doesn't give you enough information, proceed to step #2 below: 2.) In /usr/local/etc/cups/cupsd.conf, uncomment the following: LogLevel debug And restart the cupsd daemon: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cups.sh stop /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cups.sh start Now, any errors logged to /var/log/cups/error_log will be quite verbose. This is useful for debugging errors thrown by the foomatic-rip perl script. However, I'd like to note that I did NOT have to modify my foomatic-rip script in any way. Conclusion: =========== The FreeBSD cups package/port doesn't create the necessary directory structure needed to configure and run cupsd properly. I can overlook the fact that the cups port doesn't presume to automatically replace the /usr/bin/lp* commands, but failing to create the necessary directory structure is inexcusable. Someone should fix that. I hope the above information is useful to someone. It MAY NOT be 100% complete. I was very tired when I took the above notes. Please write me and let me know if you had to add anything or do anything different from the above. But Note: I do NOT want to know what you had to do to install foomatic-rip, hpijs, or any other printer-specific software properly. I'm only interested in cups configuration and setup info. My email address is jesse@wingnet.net. Have a great day! -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 07:04:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FE916A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCE143FEA for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:04:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vHCl-0001kU-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:04:51 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vHCk-0001kM-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:04:50 +0200 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vHCH-0001YJ-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:04:21 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 10:04:21 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 26 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: fwe in production? fwe bandwidth? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:04:24 -0000 Howdy list, I'm researching GigE and faster-than-10/100- technologies. I run a FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE laptop, and I noticed the fwe device. I have a few questions regarding the fwe device: 1.) Does anyone use the fwe device? 2.) Is it stable? 3.) What kind of bandwidth is possible with the fwe device? 4.) What hardware has it been tested to work well on? 5.) If this isn't the place to ask, where should I go? Thanks! -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 07:09:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F9816A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B6C43FCB for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vHHw-0001ol-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:10:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vHBw-0001js-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:04:00 +0200 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vHBT-0001Wa-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:03:31 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 10:03:31 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 66 Message-ID: References: <20030904124052.GD88888@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: process memory peak recording X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:09:47 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 06:53:09PM -0400, Jesse Guardiani wrote: >> Howdy list, >> >> I'm a Sys Admin running FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE >> servers. >> >> During a recent programming/installation >> project, I found myself wanting to know >> the peak memory usage of a given command/process. >> >> Is there any way to gather this information >> without recompiling an application with a >> sleep or wait statement at the (assumed) >> point of peak memory usage and then looking >> at the process with 'ps'? > > That depends on exactly how much time you've got to record the peak > memory usage. If it's going to be changing faster than you could > catch just by running ps(1) -- like: > > % ps -p NNN -o rsz > > where NNN is the pid of your process, then you're probably going to > have to interrupt the process somehow. You can do that by attaching > to the process using gdb(1), eg: > > % gdb PROGNAME NNN > > this will stop the process and leave you in the debugger at the > current program counter. You'ld have to create a break point when the > program calls malloc(3) or friends, continue running until it hits the > break point, step over the malloc call, check the size using ps(1), > and then continue running again until the next malloc(3) call. Repeat > until the program ends. See the gdb info pages for the gory details. > Nb. this whole thing with gdb(1) is going to be a great deal easier if > you have the source code to your program available and you can run an > unstripped binary. Doing such a trick on a stripped binary is getting > into real guru territory. Programs run a lot slower when attached in > a debugger, plus if the program makes heavy use of malloc, it's going > to get really tedious very quickly. Thanks for the reply, Matthew. Sorry for the misleading subject. I meant to post a different message under that subject. "process memory peak recording" should have been the subject for this message. I'm not sure if that was a bug in my human CPU or a bug in KNode... :) Anyway, I was really hoping that someone would write me back and tell me that there is already some voodoo kernel debugging switch that I could turn on to let me log/record peak memory usage for a particular process. I guess you're saying that isn't the case though, right? Sincerely, -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 07:26:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8FD16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8104C4401E for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:26:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vHXi-0001z6-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:26:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vHXg-0001yw-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:26:28 +0200 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vHXD-0002Lp-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:25:59 +0200 From: "Scott I. Remick" Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:25:58 -0400 Lines: 28 Message-ID: <1q7tjaut0ukgf.1c9pj9wuuhjv4$.dlg@40tude.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Archive: encrypt User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.5.1 Sender: news Subject: Re: VNC & ssh tunneling problem: getsockopt TCP_NODELAY error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: scott@sremick.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:26:03 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:51:08 +0100 (BST), Jan Grant wrote: > I'd still recommend double-checking with sockstat on the BSD box, (and > netstat -an on the windows box, but I don't think that's the problem). Sure... you help me, I help you help me. :) -bash-2.05b$ sockstat -l | grep vnc scott Xvnc 60273 0 tcp4 *:6001 *:* scott Xvnc 60273 1 stream /tmp/.X11-unix/X1 scott Xvnc 60273 3 tcp4 *:5901 *:* scott Xvnc 60273 4 tcp4 *:5801 *:* So it IS listening on 5901. Also: su-2.05b# strobe -b 5900 -e 5910 localhost strobe 1.05 (c) 1995-1999 Julian Assange . localhost 5901 unassigned unknown -> RFB 003.003\n Amongst other things, netstat -ab reports on the Windows machine: TCP 127.0.0.1:7001 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING TCP 127.0.0.1:7002 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING TCP 127.0.0.1:7003 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING ...which makes sense, since I'm getting through enough to trigger the error on the FreeBSD system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 07:38:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6613C16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE0F44003 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:38:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19vHje-000OS9-NB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:38:50 +0100 Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h85EcoCl074199 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:38:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h85Eco8f074198 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:38:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:38:49 +0100 From: Jonathon McKitrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030905143849.GE73593@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Spam-Score: -8.3 (--------) X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *19vHje-000OS9-NB*8DOkubswCDg* Subject: what is a tinderbox? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:38:57 -0000 What is a tinderbox, in the context of computers? NOTE: Please CC me, as I am not currently subscribed. Thanks. jm -- My other computer is your windows box. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 07:40:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DEE16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7465144014 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:40:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h85EdqQr079903 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:40:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)h85EdqdX079902; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:39:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:39:52 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Jesse Guardiani Message-ID: <20030905143952.GA79611@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Jesse Guardiani , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030904124052.GD88888@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: process memory peak recording X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:40:35 -0000 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 10:03:31AM -0400, Jesse Guardiani wrote: =20 > Sorry for the misleading subject. I meant to post a different message > under that subject. "process memory peak recording" should have been the > subject for this message. I'm not sure if that was a bug in my human CPU > or a bug in KNode... :) =20 > Anyway, I was really hoping that someone would write me back and tell me > that there is already some voodoo kernel debugging switch that I could > turn on to let me log/record peak memory usage for a particular process. >=20 > I guess you're saying that isn't the case though, right? As far as I know, that is the case: there is no way to retrospectively find the peak memory usage of a process. Of course, the kernel can tell you what the memory usage of a process is right now, but that information isn't systematically recorded anywhere, to the best of my knowledge. The closest thing I can find to doing that is the 'sa -K' command, which gives you the "CPU storage integral, in 1k-core seconds" -- as well as not being the statistic you want, that also lumps together the data for all instances of a particular command. Another approach that occurred to me might be feasible would be to use the limits(1) facility to set a maximum virtual memory size for the process. Then do a binary search to find the smallest virtualmem limit that would still permit the process to complete. But that really only works if you can run the same process with the same arguments over and over again and always get the same result each time. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/WKA4dtESqEQa7a0RArZIAJ9dc+KNkuL6TAnJYUc+t91olM4xMwCeK40P vkIm4fpB3MFJ5e1JYT0DgyY= =2sm2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 07:42:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A2E16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mailbox.co.uk (smtp.mailbox.co.uk [195.82.125.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7766543FAF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:42:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@penguinpowered.org) Received: from [212.18.244.168] (helo=marvin.penguinpowered.org) by smtp.mailbox.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19vHnc-0000a4-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:42:56 +0100 Received: by marvin.penguinpowered.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0577B15228; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:54:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:54:53 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030905145452.GA60324@marvin.penguinpowered.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: wayne@penguinpowered.org X-System: FreeBSD i386 with kernel 4.9-PRERELEASE Subject: Cyrus Imapd install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:42:58 -0000 Hi all, I'm having some problems configuring /usr/ports/mail/cyrus-imapd22 The port installs ok, but I can't seem to start it. Running /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapd.sh.sample produces the following output: .: Can't open %%RC_SUBR%%: No such file or directory I am trying to do this on FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE The reason I am trying to install this is to run squirrelmail. Is there possibly something better I could be using ? Regards, -- Wayne Pascoe Be nice to your daemons. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 07:46:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0EF416A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.bluecirclesoft.com (cvg-65-26-145-190.cinci.rr.com [65.26.145.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22A243FFB for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:46:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc.ramirez@bluecirclesoft.com) Received: from www.bluecirclesoft.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h85EiPax039705; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:44:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mrami@bluecirclesoft.com) Received: from localhost (mrami@localhost)h85EiPbZ039702; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:44:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: www.bluecirclesoft.com: mrami owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:44:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Ramirez To: Jonathon McKitrick In-Reply-To: <20030905143849.GE73593@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: <20030905104103.D73827@www.bluecirclesoft.com> References: <20030905143849.GE73593@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is a tinderbox? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:46:14 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: > > What is a tinderbox, in the context of computers? > > NOTE: Please CC me, as I am not currently subscribed. Thanks. In general, it's a sandbox to do build testing and find build errors. More specifically, there's also this: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tinderbox/ -- Marc Ramirez Blue Circle Software Corporation 513-688-1070 (main) 513-382-1270 (direct) http://www.bluecirclesoft.com http://www.mrami.com (personal) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 07:59:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD8016A4BF; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DFB43FF7; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 07:59:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h85EwEQr080109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:59:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)h85EwEPO080108; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:58:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:58:14 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Heinrich Rebehn Message-ID: <20030905145814.GB79611@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Heinrich Rebehn , ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions References: <3F586C9A.1010805@ant.uni-bremen.de> <20030905111001.GA77412@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <3F58773F.6040309@ant.uni-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F58773F.6040309@ant.uni-bremen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: ports@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: xdm config files overwritten after upgrading Xfree86-clients from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:59:31 -0000 --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 01:45:03PM +0200, Heinrich Rebehn wrote: > Matthew Seaman wrote: > >However, I just keep a backup copy of the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm > >directory handy: > > > > # cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ > > # rsync -avx --delete xdm/ xdm.bak/ > > > > Cheers, > > > > Matthew > > >=20 > Ok, this would help for xdm. I wonder however, how many other packages ar= e=20 > out there with similar behaviour and what other directories i should have= a=20 > copy of handy. >=20 > Or, to put it this way: I would like a port/package system that i can rel= y=20 > on :-) In practice, this really doesn't bite port/package users very often. The Porter's Handbook states: If your port requires some configuration files in PREFIX/etc, do not just install them and list them in pkg-plist. That will cause pkg_delete to delete files carefully edited by the user and a new installation to wipe them out. Instead, install sample files with a suffix (filename.sample will work well) and print out a message pointing out that the user has to copy and edit the file before the software can be made to work. (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/dads-con= fig.html) which perhaps should be generalized to configuration files installed anywhere, rather than just under PREFIX/etc. Of all the ports I have installed, which is several hundred encorporating general desktop usage, web serving, databases, etc., the only ones I've had problems with regarding trashing my original configuration files are XFree86-4-clients and the Horde, Imp, Turba etc. group of web apps. (These last, to be fair, always preserve my config files as .previous and updates do tend to involve non-compatible changes to the configuration file contents.) The only other Gotcha! of this type is when a /usr/local/etc/rc.d startup script gets changed to the new rc.subr(8) style. Previously those scripts were generally held to be configurable files and you had to copy the sample file into place, edit it and make sure it was executable before the service would be set up to auto-start on reboot. With the new rc_subr style, the script doesn't need to be edited, but you generally have to add some lines to /etc/rc.conf to enable the service. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/WKSGdtESqEQa7a0RAmVxAJ9o5Xs6MyJgyHs5qYj+XSe4tOeQaQCfQXBX r32qqxCznZaNjYAwbrAax2o= =wm5h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Pd0ReVV5GZGQvF3a-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 08:01:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2322C16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-da-2.dns-solutions.net (mail-da-2.dns-solutions.net [69.12.112.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B741444014 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:01:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@vcommunities.net) Received: (qmail 51838 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2003 15:01:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tabby) (mvondung@vcommunities.net@62.158.60.216) by mail-da-2.dns-solutions.net - 62.158.60.216 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2003 15:01:45 -0000 From: "Michael Vondung" To: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:01:41 +0200 Message-ID: <001301c373be$9e8c9660$0200a8c0@tabby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: Planning a FreeBSD desktop, basic questions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:01:49 -0000 Hello! My apologies for the length of this post. Summary: 4.x or 5.x for a = desktop machine, disk partitioning for a workstation, miscellaneous installation questions. Okay, the details! Now that I have my local FreeBSD server (mail/news, router, firewall) successfully running, I'm ready to tackle my = workstation. This is currently a system with a P4-2.6Ghz, 512MB RAM, an 80GB EIDE = disk, and "the usual" devices (CDR, CD/DVD player, network adapter and so on). = At this time it is running Windows XP, and I plan to keep it where it is. = To avoid having two operating systems on the same disk, I've purchased an identical HD (WD800BB) where FreeBSD will live on. Since I don't = download movies or obscene amounts of MP3s, this is all a bit spacey. The XP disk only uses 35 of 80GB and I doubt the FreeBSD one will even be this = "full". How times change. :) 4.8 or 5.1? My "personal server" happily runs 4.8R and will be updated to 4.9 when -stable becomes a bit more stable. It consists of older hardware and I = don't plan to upgrade it to 5.x any time soon, if ever. But what do you = recommend for the workstation? It doesn't have dual-processors and all of its = hardware seems to be supported by 4.x. This machine, though, will eventually get = 5.x. I'm wondering if it makes sense to put 4.8 on it now or if it would be a better choice to just go with 5.1R. My primary concern here is ease of upgrading. Will it be difficult to go from 4.9 to 5.2, somewhere down = the road? Mergemaster is a rather scary looking critter. Differently put, = will there be tools provided to allow this without too much fiddling? Partitions If anything brings out the perfectionist in me, it is figuring out how = to partition a disk. What I have in mind for the 80GB FreeBSD disk for the workstation is this: / =3D 512MB (too spacey, but that should be plenty for future releases) swap =3D 3GB (see notes below) /var =3D 1GB (probably too much, but the room's there) /tmp =3D 1GB (256MB would probably be enough, but why not?) /usr =3D the rest (essentially 74GB) The machine currently has 512MB of RAM, but since I won't have the = financial means or desire to get a new complete system in the next two to four = years, it's possible that I'll upgrade the memory first to 1GB and later to = 1.5GB if needed or wanted. 3GB would then be an acceptable amount of swap = space, but I certainly won't need this much right now, and I might never. Am I overdoing it, or doesn't it really matter since I don't seem to lack = storage room anyway? Then there's this huge /usr partition. 74GB. I thought about splitting = this between /home and /usr, but I have honestly no idea (and experience) how much space I'll end up using where. It probably wouldn't matter since I won't need more 30 or 40GB of that space. There's also the possibility = that I might end up using the second disk (another 80GB one that currently belongs to XP) for FreeBSD also. That would then be for /home, if for = some unexpected reason I should need more space. In other words, I would like = to keep this option open. This workstation won't hold "critical" data, so I do not plan on backing = up entire partitions. If all of this is inefficient and I'm missing the obvious, please let me know. Keep in mind that I -am- new to the FreeBSD = and Unix world. I'm open for suggestions here. Miscellaneous - FreeBSD will be on the second disk. Is Sysinstall, if FreeBSD is = installed on the slave, going to ask if I'd like to put the BootMgr on the first drive? - In case I decide to make the second disk (with FreeBSD) the master = drive some time in the not-so-near future, will it be fairly simple to = accomplish this? Only jumper rearrangement, MBR and fstab editing? - Anything else I need to pay particular attention to? Besides backing = up important files on the XP disk in case something goes wrong. Thanks! Cheers, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 08:05:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFCE16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA2943FF2 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:05:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:05:11 +0100 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 19vI7N-0004Du-00; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:03:21 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:03:21 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: "Scott I. Remick" In-Reply-To: <1q7tjaut0ukgf.1c9pj9wuuhjv4$.dlg@40tude.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Jan Grant cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VNC & ssh tunneling problem: getsockopt TCP_NODELAY error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:05:25 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Scott I. Remick wrote: > Sure... you help me, I help you help me. :) > > -bash-2.05b$ sockstat -l | grep vnc > scott Xvnc 60273 0 tcp4 *:6001 *:* > scott Xvnc 60273 1 stream /tmp/.X11-unix/X1 > scott Xvnc 60273 3 tcp4 *:5901 *:* > scott Xvnc 60273 4 tcp4 *:5801 *:* > > So it IS listening on 5901. Also: > > su-2.05b# strobe -b 5900 -e 5910 localhost > strobe 1.05 (c) 1995-1999 Julian Assange . > localhost 5901 unassigned unknown > -> RFB 003.003\n OK, two other things (increasingly bizarre) occur to me; after that, I'm stumped: 1. tcp wrappers or similar on your vnc? 2. The "localhost" is (as I recall) resolved on the putty side and the IP to connect to sent to the sshd. Does localhost resolve to anything other than 127.0.0.1 on your windows machine? -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 http://ioctl.org/jan/ The Java disclaimer: values of 'anywhere' may vary between regions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 08:06:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B7016A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7743A43F85 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:05:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h85F5FQr080218 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:05:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)h85F5FaJ080217; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:05:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:05:14 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Vitali Malicky Message-ID: <20030905150514.GC79611@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Vitali Malicky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <004201c373aa$7b67f170$2401010a@zone3000.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H8ygTp4AXg6deix2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004201c373aa$7b67f170$2401010a@zone3000.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need to control a bunch of files. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:06:00 -0000 --H8ygTp4AXg6deix2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 03:37:34PM +0300, Vitali Malicky wrote: > There is a question, sorry if you find it stupid. >=20 > I need to control a bunch of files. >=20 > As soon as any of these files changes it should be immediately > rechecked and correct chmod and chown reset on this file(s). >=20 > Though I can do it from a simple script executed by the cron every > five minutes or so, I'd like them to be controlled by a process which > would monitor any possible changes in these files and would do the > job upon the event. >=20 > Can anybody give me a hint? Are you any good at C programming? If so, check out the man page for kqueue(2) -- you can register a series of kevents with the kernel, and it will inform your process whenever one of those events occurs. One of the standard "event filters" is EVFILT_VNODE, which will tell you when a vnode (ie file, in this case) gets modified, including such changes as unlinking the file, renaming it, change of attributes (ownership, mode) etc. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --H8ygTp4AXg6deix2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/WKYqdtESqEQa7a0RAuSzAJ9BW1KF8ruELHmKLVb2SEaDh5KkOACfbOzO 4f7oQXywj1mU6XFjxCBxvTg= =TUER -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H8ygTp4AXg6deix2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 08:16:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF45616A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (cujo.runbox.com [193.71.199.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877B643FE5 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:16:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from klimenta@futurebit.com) Received: from [10.9.9.16] (helo=lassie.runbox.com) by lufsen.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19vIKJ-0004jI-PD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:16:43 +0200 Received: from [12.33.76.83] (helo=srce) (Authenticated Sender=klimenta@runbox.com) by lassie.runbox.com with asmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19vIJs-0002XK-Fv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:16:16 +0200 Message-ID: <009b01c373c1$6d06f240$ca0110ac@vinyl.tkvbp.com> From: "Kliment Andreev" To: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:21:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Sender: 202020 Subject: OpenGroupWare build failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:16:46 -0000 I am trying to build OpenGroupware from sources. Using: FreeBSD 4.7 GNU Make 3.79.1 gcc 2.95.4 Everything went fine until I've tried to build SKYRIX Core Libraires # gmake -s nosasl=yes debug=yes install .... NGActiveSocket.m: In function `-[NGActiveSocket _unixWriteBytes:count:]': NGActiveSocket.m:860: warning: implicit declaration of function `sleep' gmake[2]: *** [shared_debug_obj/ix86/freebsd/gnu-fd-nil/NGActiveSocket.o] Error 1 gmake[1]: *** [libNGStreams.all.library.variables] Error 2 gmake: *** [internal-all] Error 2 I tried to find what this error means but there is no explanation on GNU Make site. I assume that the problem is the linker. Anyone? Thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 08:17:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAA216A4D5 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6811543FBF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:17:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h85FGTQr080349 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:17:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)h85FGTDF080348; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:16:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:16:29 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Wayne Pascoe Message-ID: <20030905151629.GD79611@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Wayne Pascoe , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030905145452.GA60324@marvin.penguinpowered.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n/aVsWSeQ4JHkrmm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030905145452.GA60324@marvin.penguinpowered.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cyrus Imapd install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:17:21 -0000 --n/aVsWSeQ4JHkrmm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 03:54:53PM +0100, Wayne Pascoe wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > I'm having some problems configuring /usr/ports/mail/cyrus-imapd22 > The port installs ok, but I can't seem to start it. Running > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/imapd.sh.sample produces the following output: >=20 > .: Can't open %%RC_SUBR%%: No such file or directory >=20 > I am trying to do this on FreeBSD 4.9-PRERELEASE >=20 > The reason I am trying to install this is to run squirrelmail. Is there > possibly something better I could be using ?=20 That appears to have been a failure of the recently introduced `USE_RC_SUBR' mechanism. Under 4.x any port using that should automatically have an extra dependency on sysutils/rc_subr added, which is a back-port of the new /etc/rc.subr script from 5.x Try cvsup'ing your ports tree again, and make sure that you get at least version 1.466 of /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk, then try re-installing that port. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --n/aVsWSeQ4JHkrmm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/WKjNdtESqEQa7a0RAhwZAKCMIjcNRDV5UVufiq0zwNX9HSFx6wCeN/fT uL7YCF1sOh3JjgeYpCYlMRQ= =7Uhd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n/aVsWSeQ4JHkrmm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 08:18:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA54816A4C1 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web60001.mail.yahoo.com (web60001.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.116.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EE6544008 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:18:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keshav_tadimeti@yahoo.co.uk) Message-ID: <20030905151810.33518.qmail@web60001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.60.1.195] by web60001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:18:10 BST Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:18:10 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Tadimeti=20Keshav?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: how to check which COM port modem is connected to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:18:13 -0000 Hi folks, how can I check which COM port the modem is connected to? Please help. I need to set up internet connectivity. Thanks in advance AMIT ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 08:39:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB14916A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82BC4401E for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:39:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vIh1-0002vi-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:40:11 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vIgy-0002va-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:40:08 +0200 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vIgV-0005Bx-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:39:39 +0200 From: "Scott I. Remick" Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:39:38 -0400 Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <1q7tjaut0ukgf.1c9pj9wuuhjv4$.dlg@40tude.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Archive: encrypt User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.5.1 Sender: news Subject: Re: VNC & ssh tunneling problem: getsockopt TCP_NODELAY error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: scott@sremick.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:39:44 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:03:21 +0100 (BST), Jan Grant wrote: > OK, two other things (increasingly bizarre) occur to me; after that, I'm > stumped: > > 1. tcp wrappers or similar on your vnc? On the FreeBSD system? No. Well, not that I know of. I have not configured to use tcp wrappers w/ VNC so if it's happening, it's doing so without me having asked it to. > 2. The "localhost" is (as I recall) resolved on the putty side and the > IP to connect to sent to the sshd. Does localhost resolve to anything > other than 127.0.0.1 on your windows machine? Nope: C:\>ping localhost Pinging SCOTT [127.0.0.1] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128 Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128 Of course, now that I think about it, plugging another workstation in at home and seeing if I can VNC to the FreeBSD system on the local LAN would be rather enlightening. Why haven't I done this already? Duh. Will have to try it later... Incidentally, I'm not the first to have this problem: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030129114855.D5796-100000_geri.cc.fe r.hr%40ns.sol.net&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain I tried emailing him but haven't heard back. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 08:55:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8CE16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl [193.78.88.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F6043F93 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:55:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Hans_Vledder@nl.compuware.com) Received: from cwnl-ams-svc01.nl.compuware.com (unknown [172.16.17.84]) by bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7D182A6 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:55:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cwnl-ams-svc01.nl.compuware.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:55:20 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Vledder, Hans" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:55:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: 802.11g and FreeBSD based access point ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:55:25 -0000 All, I am considering building a 802.11g FreeBSD access point. I've read that I will need a network adapter that supports hostap (access point mode). Does anyone known a brand/model (PCI) that's being supported by FreeBSD ? Regards, Hans Vledder -- The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 09:13:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6834516A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net (firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06E843FA3 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from 21-207.lctv-b4.cablelynx.com ([24.204.21.207] helo=yoda.datawok.com) by firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19vJCt-0002H0-00; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 09:13:08 -0700 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: "Michael Vondung" , Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:13:21 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <001301c373be$9e8c9660$0200a8c0@tabby> In-Reply-To: <001301c373be$9e8c9660$0200a8c0@tabby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309051113.21847.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4b867f658f0cd20d3a49226163e421df39350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Subject: Re: Planning a FreeBSD desktop, basic questions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:13:09 -0000 On Friday 05 September 2003 10:01 am, Michael Vondung wrote: > Hello! > > My apologies for the length of this post. Summary: 4.x or 5.x for a desktop > machine, disk partitioning for a workstation, miscellaneous installation > questions. > > Okay, the details! Now that I have my local FreeBSD server (mail/news, > router, firewall) successfully running, I'm ready to tackle my workstation. Consider running Samba. This will allow you to backup your files from your Windows XP hard drive to your server easily. > This is currently a system with a P4-2.6Ghz, 512MB RAM, an 80GB EIDE disk, > and "the usual" devices (CDR, CD/DVD player, network adapter and so on). At > this time it is running Windows XP, and I plan to keep it where it is. To > avoid having two operating systems on the same disk, I've purchased an > identical HD (WD800BB) where FreeBSD will live on. Since I don't download > movies or obscene amounts of MP3s, this is all a bit spacey. The XP disk > only uses 35 of 80GB and I doubt the FreeBSD one will even be this "full". > How times change. :) > > 4.8 or 5.1? Before answering, I have a question for the list: Am I correct in assuming that there is no Security branch or Stable branch for cvsup'ing 5.1? If the answer to the question above is yes (no Security/Stable branches), I would stick with 4.8 and cvsup to Stable unless you need hardware support that only exists in 5.1. (Do you need support for USB 2?) > > My "personal server" happily runs 4.8R and will be updated to 4.9 when > -stable becomes a bit more stable. It consists of older hardware and I > don't plan to upgrade it to 5.x any time soon, if ever. But what do you > recommend for the workstation? It doesn't have dual-processors and all of > its hardware seems to be supported by 4.x. This machine, though, will > eventually get 5.x. I'm wondering if it makes sense to put 4.8 on it now or > if it would be a better choice to just go with 5.1R. My primary concern > here is ease of upgrading. Will it be difficult to go from 4.9 to 5.2, > somewhere down the road? Mergemaster is a rather scary looking critter. > Differently put, will there be tools provided to allow this without too > much fiddling? > > Partitions > > If anything brings out the perfectionist in me, it is figuring out how to > partition a disk. What I have in mind for the 80GB FreeBSD disk for the > workstation is this: > > / = 512MB (too spacey, but that should be plenty for future releases) > swap = 3GB (see notes below) > /var = 1GB (probably too much, but the room's there) > /tmp = 1GB (256MB would probably be enough, but why not?) > /usr = the rest (essentially 74GB) > > The machine currently has 512MB of RAM, but since I won't have the > financial means or desire to get a new complete system in the next two to > four years, it's possible that I'll upgrade the memory first to 1GB and > later to 1.5GB if needed or wanted. 3GB would then be an acceptable amount > of swap space, but I certainly won't need this much right now, and I might > never. Am I overdoing it, or doesn't it really matter since I don't seem to > lack storage room anyway? > > Then there's this huge /usr partition. 74GB. I thought about splitting this > between /home and /usr, but I have honestly no idea (and experience) how > much space I'll end up using where. It probably wouldn't matter since I > won't need more 30 or 40GB of that space. There's also the possibility that > I might end up using the second disk (another 80GB one that currently > belongs to XP) for FreeBSD also. That would then be for /home, if for some > unexpected reason I should need more space. In other words, I would like to > keep this option open. > > This workstation won't hold "critical" data, so I do not plan on backing up > entire partitions. If all of this is inefficient and I'm missing the > obvious, please let me know. Keep in mind that I -am- new to the FreeBSD > and Unix world. I'm open for suggestions here. > > Miscellaneous > > - FreeBSD will be on the second disk. Is Sysinstall, if FreeBSD is > installed on the slave, going to ask if I'd like to put the BootMgr on the > first drive? > > - In case I decide to make the second disk (with FreeBSD) the master drive > some time in the not-so-near future, will it be fairly simple to accomplish > this? Only jumper rearrangement, MBR and fstab editing? No, it's not quite that easy. When you install the additional hard drive, run /stand/sysinstall. Select the Index option and run the Partition option followed by the Label option. You used these programs when you installed FreeBSD. Since you've obviously survived installation, you have no need to worry about this now. > > - Anything else I need to pay particular attention to? Besides backing up > important files on the XP disk in case something goes wrong. > > Thanks! > > Cheers, > Michael Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 09:15:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFE516A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED95544005 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:15:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from smtp.us2.messagingengine.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8F218A23E; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 10.202.2.133 ([10.202.2.133] helo=smtp.us2.messagingengine.com) by messagingengine.com with SMTP; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 12:15:37 -0400 Received: by smtp.us2.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 3C40571641; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.2 (F2.71; T1.001; A1.51; B2.12; Q2.03) From: "Jud" To: "Michael Vondung" , "freebsd-questions" Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 12:15:36 -0400 X-Epoch: 1062778537 X-Sasl-enc: 17pd9iBsrT/O3OLj9FFRRA References: <001301c373be$9e8c9660$0200a8c0@tabby> In-Reply-To: <001301c373be$9e8c9660$0200a8c0@tabby> Message-Id: <20030905161536.3C40571641@smtp.us2.messagingengine.com> Subject: Re: Planning a FreeBSD desktop, basic questions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:15:40 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:01:41 +0200, "Michael Vondung" said: > Hello! > > My apologies for the length of this post. Summary: 4.x or 5.x for a > desktop > machine, disk partitioning for a workstation, miscellaneous installation > questions. Replying to selected bits - [snip] > 4.8 or 5.1? > > My "personal server" happily runs 4.8R and will be updated to 4.9 when > -stable becomes a bit more stable. It consists of older hardware and I > don't > plan to upgrade it to 5.x any time soon, if ever. But what do you > recommend > for the workstation? It doesn't have dual-processors and all of its > hardware > seems to be supported by 4.x. This machine, though, will eventually get > 5.x. > I'm wondering if it makes sense to put 4.8 on it now or if it would be a > better choice to just go with 5.1R. My primary concern here is ease of > upgrading. Will it be difficult to go from 4.9 to 5.2, somewhere down the > road? Mergemaster is a rather scary looking critter. Differently put, > will > there be tools provided to allow this without too much fiddling? 4.8 now, 5.x via fresh install rather than upgrade when you feel comfortable. Re applications: Do you have a lot of applications installed, or some fairly large ones? How fast is your Internet connection? Depending on the answers, choose whether you want to prepare for 5.x by using portupgrade to make packages of applications (then saving them to the XP drive or burning them to CD), or by reinstalling the applications over the Internet onto the new 5.x system. Re system configuration: Do you have a lot of customized system config files? If not, doing it over again on a fresh installation of 5.x shouldn't take long. Unless you are thoroughly familiar with exactly what has changed between 4.x and 5.x, that should be easier than trying to pull your configuration through an upgrade. > Keep in mind that I -am- new to the FreeBSD > and > Unix world. Yeah, definitely 4.8. :) > Miscellaneous > > - FreeBSD will be on the second disk. Is Sysinstall, if FreeBSD is > installed > on the slave, going to ask if I'd like to put the BootMgr on the first > drive? Yes. You must put the FreeBSD boot manager on *each* drive you want to boot with it, so if you would like the FreeBSD boot manager to offer you a choice between the XP drive (it'll call this "???" - see the FAQ) and the FreeBSD drive, install the boot manager on *both*. There is no requirement to use FreeBSD's boot manager, though. Grub from the ports works nicely (read the online documentation *carefully* first), or GAG is a very nice, free, just about automagic bootloader. You can also use the Windows bootloader - sorry to say I'm familiar with using it to boot Windows and FreeBSD from the *same* drive, but not two different drives. (You are welcome to read the FAQ or online Handbook on this subject. The last I did so, its description of the method for using the Windows bootloader for Windows and FreeBSD on separate drives was sufficiently unclear to me that I didn't want to try it.) Short version of the above - use GAG. :) > > - In case I decide to make the second disk (with FreeBSD) the master > drive > some time in the not-so-near future, will it be fairly simple to > accomplish > this? Only jumper rearrangement, MBR and fstab editing? *Only* MBR editing? And I'm giving *you* advice? Actually, I can't see that MBR editing would be necessary with FreeBSD (someone correct me if I'm wrong here). Fstab editing would be necessary, yes. XP may be unhappy on the second BIOS drive unless you are using a bootloader that will take care of this pretty automagically, like GAG, or reconfigure Grub to take care of it (see the Grub documentation re the 'map' command). > - Anything else I need to pay particular attention to? Besides backing up > important files on the XP disk in case something goes wrong. If you have a CD burner (you mentioned a "CDR" and a "CD/DVD" player, so I'm not sure), you should consider backing up to something that has no chance of getting fried by the same mishap that takes out your FreeBSD disk. Jud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 09:24:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1696016A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9A544001 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:24:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ah4@mlz.us) Received: from andy.gwi.net (blake.gwi.net [207.5.142.8]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h85GOfWB086950 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:24:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ah4@mlz.us) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001301c373be$9e8c9660$0200a8c0@tabby> X-Homepage: http://www.nachoz.com X-PGP-Key: RSA-1024 http://www.nachoz.com/andy.pub X-System-Info-DB: PostgreSQL-7.3.3 X-System-Info-RT: rt-3-0-4 X-System-Info-WM: windowmaker-0.80.2 X-System-Info-httpd: apache-1.3.28 X-System-Info-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-#0 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 12:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Sender: aharriso@andy.gwi.net From: Andy Harrison To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Planning a FreeBSD desktop, basic questions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:24:45 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 05-Sep-2003, Michael Vondung wrote message "Planning a FreeBSD desktop, basic questions." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > 4.8 or 5.1? > I have 4.8 at work, and 5 at home. I'm happier with 4.8 so far. I keep running into silly quirks that I have to take time to fix in 5, library issues, that sort of thing. Basically I find myself wanting to reinstall with 4.8 on it. > > Partitions > I run a similar machine at work. p4 2.4Ghz 512MB, 80GB. and it runs great. I gave myself 1GB of swap, and I rarely ever touch more than 40-50MB when I'm really giving it a beating. / = 512MB, I'm current at 31% utilized /var = 256MB, 38% utilized /tmp = 256MB, 14% utilized /usr = the rest... > The machine currently has 512MB of RAM, but since I won't have the financial > means or desire to get a new complete system in the next two to four years, I haven't seen much need to upgrade my RAM, though I don't run the K nor GNOME. ~~ Andy Harrison (full headers for details) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQCVAwUBP1i47VPEkLgodAWVAQF3IgP/QNdaZhI6/buO1WaMJqBm0wkfByG1NqkC ELne8AiotgHAQ+RA8yM5tnktigqps2jXw/gyZm7MDiwPQI49xoFx2rEot1Ex1Ecm 4g6Wv1EaBzG10VqLU55IItm4t7FkllyJ3fT2F+2rx1RENd9wOm5uGAfeLw7ZHPYx +DwLWpfTbLA= =ULr1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 09:32:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9590A16A4C0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trmx001.dot.ca.gov (svhqsacsmtp01.dot.ca.gov [64.174.7.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49B143FF5 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:32:13 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SACSMTP01/SVR/Caltrans/CAGov(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 09/05/2003 09:32:31 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: virus scan programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:32:33 -0000 Dear freeBSD enthusiast, Greetings. I am a newcomer to the BSD/Unix world. My place of employment is a large agency with thousands of client machines. Most of the clients use Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional operating system. Most of the servers use either Novell operating system, or I.B.M. Domino operating system. A very important ritual that each client computer performs every morning at boot-up time is to run a virus scan application program. This program is run whether or not the user desires it, because it runs before the user us granted a log-on screen. In my reading of Unix and BSD literature, I have found no mention of virus scan programs for these operating systems. Do such programs not exist? Alternately, is the Unix/BSD approach to this problem in a different philosophical and/or procedural sphere? If so, could you describe the Unix/BSD approach to locating and eradicating these invaders of one's hard drive? If the issue is already explained in either printed literature, or posted at a world wide web site, it is sufficient to cite the location. Many thanks for your response. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 09:49:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CB916A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mi.celestial.com (dagney.celestial.com [192.136.111.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FB843F75 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:49:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: by mail.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id B445011EB78; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:49:01 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030905164901.GA25648@alexis.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030905024431.2C87D3AD79@www.fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030905024431.2C87D3AD79@www.fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: some linux advice !!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:49:03 -0000 On Thu, Sep 04, 2003, Sweetleaf wrote: >I am planning on setting up a host which has several OS's via.... >VMware-4.x. Vmware-4 only runs on linux, so the host OS has to be linux >according to their website and i suppose i will have freebsd etc.. as the >guest. > >so my questions is, which linux distro out of the following supported by >VMware would be the best foundation regards to stability, speed, >security, easy to update and install apps etc... I think memory >management and diskspeed would also be important. > >>From their website, the following distros are supported > > redhat > suse > mandrake I did a fair amount of research late last when we had to move our Linux work from Caldera's distribution, and decided on SuSE. We've installed 30 or more SuSE 8.[12] systems since the first of the year, and I've been very happy with it (we use the OpenPKG package management system so our modifications are portable and independent of the vendor's whether it's Linux or FreeBSD). Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Guns are no more responsible for killing people than the spoon is responsible for making Rosie O'Donnell fat.'' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 09:51:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1108F16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDF6143FDD for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:51:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blueeskimo@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 24264 invoked by uid 65534); 5 Sep 2003 16:51:34 -0000 Received: from dsl-cust-145.openweb.ca (EHLO [64.39.186.145]) (64.39.186.145) by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 05 Sep 2003 18:51:34 +0200 From: Adam McLaurin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-tgv2B2F8kk7qs9TTqeoL" Message-Id: <1062780689.64901.5.camel@jake> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 12:51:30 -0400 cc: Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov Subject: Re: virus scan programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:51:37 -0000 --=-tgv2B2F8kk7qs9TTqeoL Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 12:32, Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov wrote: > Dear freeBSD enthusiast, > Greetings. I am a newcomer to the BSD/Unix world. My place of > employment is a large agency with thousands of client machines. Most of > the clients use Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional operating system. Mo= st > of the servers use either Novell operating system, or I.B.M. Domino > operating system. A very important ritual that each client computer > performs every morning at boot-up time is to run a virus scan application > program. This program is run whether or not the user desires it, because > it runs before the user us granted a log-on screen. In my reading of Uni= x > and BSD literature, I have found no mention of virus scan programs for > these operating systems. Do such programs not exist? Alternately, is the > Unix/BSD approach to this problem in a different philosophical and/or > procedural sphere? If so, could you describe the Unix/BSD approach to > locating and eradicating these invaders of one's hard drive? If the issu= e > is already explained in either printed literature, or posted at a world > wide web site, it is sufficient to cite the location. Many thanks for yo= ur > response. This topic has been discussed at great length before. Check the mailing list archives. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/ --=20 Adam McLaurin --=-tgv2B2F8kk7qs9TTqeoL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA/WL8Rt+DSc2Q4lGYRAoARAJ4qyKlxFQznK+tnDM2+/9WaXz9GzACgg4Hc src3dD2pAZ7wkuZwbOsbQvA= =Obk7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-tgv2B2F8kk7qs9TTqeoL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 09:52:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1CE16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bcec01.tiadon.net (BCEC.tiadon.com [69.27.132.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC82744001 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from applications.tiadon.com (mail.tiadon.com [172.16.18.172]) by bcec01.tiadon.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id S150DPQL; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:52:09 -0500 Received: from nitanjared ([204.213.65.198]) by applications.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:52:09 -0500 Message-ID: <00d901c373ce$05755a60$c641d5cc@nitanjared> From: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:51:56 -0500 Organization: DaleCo, S.P.---"the solutions people" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virus scan programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:52:20 -0000 > If so, could you describe the Unix/BSD approach to > locating and eradicating these invaders of one's hard drive? If the issue > is already explained in either printed literature, or posted at a world > wide web site, it is sufficient to cite the location. Many thanks for your > response. > There are extremely few known viruses that affect any BSD systems. Occasionally, issues are found with other software, such as the Apache Web Server, or Sendmail, or ??. Also, occasionally, actual real people attempt illegal access of such systems. They should be called "crackers," although some people still use the antithetical term that starts with a "h" instead of a "cr". Since you are in the government, I'd simply suggest hunting these people down and killing them. ;-) #man kill Remember that PID 1 is you :-) If you are talking about using FreeBSD to protect users of that other "Operating System" from Redmond, here's a good article: http://bsdatwork.com/reviews.php?op=showcontent&id=1 Perhaps a bit dated, but should get you going in the right direction. HAND, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 09:55:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CDA16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.lphp.org (APastourelles-107-1-2-244.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.52.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3598843FDD for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 09:55:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Received: from lphp.org (ATuileries-108-2-1-107.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.152.107]) by mx1.lphp.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h85GtlSn049353 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:55:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Message-ID: <3F58BF24.1010709@lphp.org> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:51:48 +0200 From: Antoine Jacoutot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030723 Thunderbird/0.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: samba ldap+unix password sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:55:52 -0000 Hi ! I know this question isn't FreeBSD specific, but all the scripts I tried to achieve what I need only seem to work under Linux. I have a FreeBSD-5.1-p2+pam_ldap+nss_ldap+openldap+samba (with ldap support). Ldap authentication works for both unix and samba accounts. What I need is a way of syncing samba password with unix password, both stored in ldap (as ntPassword, lmPassword and userPassword). I'm sure it is doable with samba, but the scripts like ldapsync, ldapchgpasswd... don't work. I'm looking for someone who succeeded in making this work, I'm really out of ideas, and the samba list isn't very helping. Thanks. Antoine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:07:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BC916A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out006.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B9D43FBF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:07:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.160.1.150]) by out006.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030905170721.RWIK5302.out006.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:07:21 -0500 Received: from keyslapper.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h85H7NUc045118 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:07:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by keyslapper.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h85H7NIZ045117 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:07:23 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030905170723.GE88839@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out006.verizon.net from [68.160.1.150] at Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:07:21 -0500 Subject: Re: virus scan programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:07:29 -0000 On 09/05/03 09:32 AM, Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov sat at the `puter and typed: > Dear freeBSD enthusiast, > Greetings. I am a newcomer to the BSD/Unix world. My place of > employment is a large agency with thousands of client machines. Most of > the clients use Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional operating system. Most > of the servers use either Novell operating system, or I.B.M. Domino > operating system. A very important ritual that each client computer > performs every morning at boot-up time is to run a virus scan application > program. This program is run whether or not the user desires it, because > it runs before the user us granted a log-on screen. In my reading of Unix > and BSD literature, I have found no mention of virus scan programs for > these operating systems. Do such programs not exist? Alternately, is the > Unix/BSD approach to this problem in a different philosophical and/or > procedural sphere? If so, could you describe the Unix/BSD approach to > locating and eradicating these invaders of one's hard drive? If the issue > is already explained in either printed literature, or posted at a world > wide web site, it is sufficient to cite the location. Many thanks for your > response. Viruses . . . virii? whatever, are pretty much Bill Gates' gift to the world. For the most part, Unix operating systems have continued to deprive the world of their joy in spite of their overwhelming popularity. The problems with *nix operating systems is more one of security and administration. It is easy to leave back doors open that would allow unscrupulous individuals to wreak havoc on or through your system. Some examples include telnet service, open ports that are not used or needed, and OPEN MAIL RELAYS (yes, I am a card carrying spam hater). Of course, these are pretty straightforward security issues, and typically easily closed or controlled. Not like the old MS BackOrifice security problems or the new mail features that allows anyone on the internet to execute code on your system before you know what's happening. I'd recommend starting with this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html Chapter 3 will give you the Unix basics. If you get a chance, 'The Complete FreeBSD' by Greg Lehey is very good. Better than good, in fact. It explained a lot of things clearly for me that even the protocol specific books couldn't make me understand - like caching dns servers, which I never could get running, even with the online handbook. Can't wait to get my own copy. HTH Lou -- Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ hacker, n.: A master byter. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:08:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F7116A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0.rambler.ru (mx0.rambler.ru [81.19.66.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C60A43FE1 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from twistfire@rambler.ru) Received: from mailc.rambler.ru (mailc.rambler.ru [81.19.66.27]) by mx0.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id E138642FEE9 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:08:31 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from twistfire@rambler.ru) Received: from fire (vv.abc.mk.ua [62.64.91.193]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailc.rambler.ru (8.12.8/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h85Gx3Pa084701 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:59:05 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <00f901c373d0$8a96b430$0400a8c0@fire> From: "Alex Zivenko" To: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:09:57 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Auth-User: twistfire, whoson: (null) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: ssh problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:08:35 -0000 All known utility ssh. How can I configure it? I have one FreeBSD 4.8 machine in my net. I need to setup an ssh access = there for some win-users. I use telneat for it. I have a problem with it. When I'm trying to connect to this machine I' = got an error, which tells me something about DSA key. It even not gives me to enter the password. Any suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:00:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2793616A4C0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trmx001.dot.ca.gov (svhqsacsmtp01.dot.ca.gov [64.174.7.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3745F4400E for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:00:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:00:03 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SACSMTP01/SVR/Caltrans/CAGov(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 09/05/2003 10:00:08 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 10:09:51 -0700 Subject: converting internet addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:00:10 -0000 Dear BSD enthusiast, Greetings. I am a newcomer to the BSD/Unix world. On Wednesday, a message was posted on FreeBSD-Announce by Mr. Nik Clayton announcing the creation of a wiki site for the upcoming BSD convention. He gave the address as follows: "http://bsdcon.kwiki.org/". In attempting to contact the site, I assumed that the omission of "www" from the address was a typographical error. So I pointed my web browser at " http://www.bsdcon.kwiki.org". The page that was delivered was a site for posting shareware written in ruby language, and did not seem to resemble the site described by Mr. Clayton. I re-entered the address exactly as spelled in the announcement, without "www", and received the correct page. My question is this: "What is the difference between what I am telling the DNS server and outgoing gateway router to do when I enter into my browser address box 'http://www.bsdcon.kwiki.org' and when I enter into my browser address box 'http://bsdcon.kwiki.org'?" My place of employment is a large agency with thousands of client machines. Most of the clients use Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional operating system. Most of the servers use either Novell operating system, or I.B.M. Domino operating system. Many thanks for your assistance. Yours truly, Lee Shackelford From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B74916A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.bluecirclesoft.com (cvg-65-26-145-190.cinci.rr.com [65.26.145.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60674402B for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:10:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc.ramirez@bluecirclesoft.com) Received: from www.bluecirclesoft.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h85HAOax040013; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:10:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mrami@bluecirclesoft.com) Received: from localhost (mrami@localhost)h85HAN9n040010; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:10:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: www.bluecirclesoft.com: mrami owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:10:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Ramirez To: Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030905124303.M73827@www.bluecirclesoft.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virus scan programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:10:32 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov wrote: > Dear freeBSD enthusiast, > Greetings. I am a newcomer to the BSD/Unix world. My place of > employment is a large agency with thousands of client machines. Most of > the clients use Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional operating system. Most > of the servers use either Novell operating system, or I.B.M. Domino > operating system. A very important ritual that each client computer > performs every morning at boot-up time is to run a virus scan application > program. This program is run whether or not the user desires it, because > it runs before the user us granted a log-on screen. In my reading of Unix > and BSD literature, I have found no mention of virus scan programs for > these operating systems. Do such programs not exist? Alternately, is the > Unix/BSD approach to this problem in a different philosophical and/or > procedural sphere? If so, could you describe the Unix/BSD approach to > locating and eradicating these invaders of one's hard drive? If the issue > is already explained in either printed literature, or posted at a world > wide web site, it is sufficient to cite the location. Many thanks for your > response. Viruses usually aren't the problem on UNIX; you usually find things like "root kits," where someone has broken into the system and replaced some common programs with sinister ones. But the effect isn't that much different from a virus. This kind of thing is usually monitored on UNIX systems by comparing some attribute of the system binaries (usually a checksum or some such) to a set of known good values. For example, there is a tool called 'chkrootkit' in the ports tree that tests a set of common utilities for evidence of tampering in certain ways. My personal theory on the top reason why viruses are not popular on UNIX is that most people run their software from a non-priveleged account, which means if they ever did run a binary with a virus, it probably wouldn't get very far. It's much more worthwhile to concentrate your attacks (and therefore your defenses) on worms. And the defense for worms is simple: turn off every service you don't need, put the ones you do need in their own jails, and patch, patch, patch! (see http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com for an example of those last three steps) As an aside, there are products for Linux/FreeBSD that will scan e-mail for Windows viruses, but I don't think that's what you're talking about... Marc. -- Marc Ramirez Blue Circle Software Corporation 513-688-1070 (main) 513-382-1270 (direct) http://www.bluecirclesoft.com http://www.mrami.com (personal) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:16:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6687416A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out001.verizon.net (out001pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C8443FBF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:16:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com ([68.237.14.199]) by out001.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030905171622.VLGW1299.out001.verizon.net@mac.com>; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:16:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3F58C4E0.3040707@mac.com> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:16:16 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RAMILISAONA Lova , freebsd Questions References: <20030905084849.9808.qmail@mail.com> In-Reply-To: <20030905084849.9808.qmail@mail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out001.verizon.net from [68.237.14.199] at Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:16:22 -0500 Subject: Re: help me please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:16:24 -0000 RAMILISAONA Lova wrote: > How can I read with Windows 95 the SGML files about the FreeBSD docs ? I think you might be able to get Mozilla to do a reasonable job displaying raw XML or SGML files, but if you simply want to read the documentation on a Win95 box, using the HMTL or PDF versions would be much easier. What are you trying to do, exactly? If you're trying to work on the FreeBSD docs (ie, change the SGML sources), doing so under FreeBSD is going to be much easier than trying to work from Windows.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:19:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5343A16A4C0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2EC43FEC for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from 21-207.lctv-b4.cablelynx.com ([24.204.21.207] helo=yoda.datawok.com) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19vKFC-0006Kv-00; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 10:19:34 -0700 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: "Alex Zivenko" , Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:19:48 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <00f901c373d0$8a96b430$0400a8c0@fire> In-Reply-To: <00f901c373d0$8a96b430$0400a8c0@fire> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309051219.48251.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4b797ad7ef526d7b69099059118ce03905350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Subject: Re: ssh problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:19:48 -0000 On Friday 05 September 2003 12:09 pm, Alex Zivenko wrote: > All known utility ssh. > How can I configure it? > I have one FreeBSD 4.8 machine in my net. I need to setup an ssh access > there for some win-users. I use telneat for it. > > I have a problem with it. When I'm trying to connect to this machine I' got > an error, which tells me something about DSA key. It even not gives me to > enter the password. > Any suggestions? I don't think they can use regular telnet to access ssh. Try PuTTY: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ Best of luck, Andrew Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:24:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8E116A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D81543FEC for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:24:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vKK9-00043Z-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:24:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vKK8-00043R-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:24:40 +0200 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vKJf-0000eF-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:24:11 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:24:10 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <20030904124052.GD88888@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <20030905143952.GA79611@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: process memory peak recording X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:24:17 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 10:03:31AM -0400, Jesse Guardiani wrote: [...] > Another approach that occurred to me might be feasible would be to use > the limits(1) facility to set a maximum virtual memory size for the > process. Then do a binary search to find the smallest virtualmem > limit that would still permit the process to complete. But that > really only works if you can run the same process with the same > arguments over and over again and always get the same result each > time. Actually, that very situation is what makes me wish I had some way to quickly pull the peak mem usage of a process. :) I'm running DJB's softlimit with qmail-smtpd and a bunch of QMAILQUEUE scripts, and softlimit will OOM qmail-smtpd if any of the processes in the QMAILQUEUE "pipeline" exceed the alloted mem usage. I usually have to send 70M messages down the pipeline in order to properly "profile" memory usage at different points in time. Real pain in the rear. Very time consuming too. Oh well, I've practically got it down to an art now. Thanks anyway! -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:27:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4EB16A4BF; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908B843FF2; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:27:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmercer@nc.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (rdu88-246-041.nc.rr.com [24.88.246.41]) h85HKh0Q021285; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:20:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael E. Mercer" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1062782868.367.49.camel@dual.mmercer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:27:48 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mergemaster fails when building temproot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:27:52 -0000 Hello peoples, mergemaster fails saying freebsd.cf does not exist when building temproot. Have I missed something here? Thanks Michael Mercer cd /usr/src/etc/sendmail; make distribution install -C -o root -g wheel -m 644 /usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc freebsd.cf /var/tmp/temproot/etc/mail install: freebsd.cf: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/etc/sendmail. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/etc. *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot 'cd' to /usr/src/etc and install files to the temproot environment From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:29:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3B416A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bcec01.tiadon.net (BCEC.tiadon.com [69.27.132.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9541A43FEA for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:29:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from applications.tiadon.com (mail.tiadon.com [172.16.18.172]) by bcec01.tiadon.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id S150DRLK; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:29:51 -0500 Received: from nitanjared ([204.213.65.198]) by applications.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:29:52 -0500 Message-ID: <017401c373d3$4a505c20$c641d5cc@nitanjared> From: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:29:40 -0500 Organization: DaleCo, S.P.---"the solutions people" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: converting internet addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:29:54 -0000 From: To: Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 12:00 PM Subject: converting internet addresses > Dear BSD enthusiast, > Greetings. I am a newcomer to the BSD/Unix world. See below. > My question is this: "What is the difference between > what I am telling the DNS server and outgoing > gateway router to do when I enter into my browser > address box 'http://www.bsdcon.kwiki.org' and > when I enter into my browser > address box 'http://bsdcon.kwiki.org'?" No difference whatsoever, as you may have noted that both hostnames resolve to the same IP address. Likely they are different folders on the same server. This would be an example of "name based virtual hosting", which is possible since the implementation of HTTP 1.1 The server recognizes the browser's request by name (bsdcon.kwiki.org) and serves from the web folder configured to receive that request. www.bsdcon.kwiki.org sends you to some other folder in the same way, or perhaps it is unconfigured and sends you instead to the 'default' folder at that site. Seems unusual that it would be in DNS and not specifically configured, but that's a possibility. > My place of employment is a large > agency with thousands of client machines. Yeah, the California Dept of Transportation. OK. > Most of the clients use > Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional operating system. Most of the servers > use either Novell operating system, or I.B.M. Domino operating system. You said that already, too. I feel sorry for them, maybe ;-) Nonetheless, welcome to the world of FreeBSD. Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:31:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0BD16A4BF; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [64.105.95.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99F044013; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h85HVq8q032409 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost)h85HVpXV032408; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:31:51 -0700 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: "Michael E. Mercer" Message-ID: <20030905173151.GQ58346@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <1062782868.367.49.camel@dual.mmercer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1062782868.367.49.camel@dual.mmercer.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster fails when building temproot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:31:54 -0000 > mergemaster fails saying freebsd.cf does not exist when > building temproot. > > Have I missed something here? You need to install the new version of mergemaster before running it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:32:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A558E16A4C0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out001.verizon.net (out001pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5623143F85 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:32:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com ([68.237.14.199]) by out001.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030905173207.VQGQ1299.out001.verizon.net@mac.com>; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:32:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3F58C891.3040209@mac.com> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:32:01 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out001.verizon.net from [68.237.14.199] at Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:32:07 -0500 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: converting internet addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:32:09 -0000 Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov wrote: > "What is the difference between what I am telling the > DNS server and outgoing gateway router to do when I enter into my browser > address box 'http://www.bsdcon.kwiki.org' and when I enter into my browser > address box 'http://bsdcon.kwiki.org'?" In this particular case, there is no difference. Both names point to the same IP address: 1-sec# nslookup www.bsdcon.kwiki.org Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 Name: www.bsdcon.kwiki.org Address: 65.214.160.247 2-sec# nslookup bsdcon.kwiki.org Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 Name: bsdcon.kwiki.org Address: 65.214.160.247 You see different sites for the different names because the server is using named virtual domains. In other words, the fact that your browser connects via one name or the other is the reason why you see different content as the result. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0BF16A4BF; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3FC43F3F; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:45:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmercer@nc.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (rdu88-246-041.nc.rr.com [24.88.246.41]) h85Hgx4R010126; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:43:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael E. Mercer" To: Gregory Neil Shapiro In-Reply-To: <20030905173151.GQ58346@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <1062782868.367.49.camel@dual.mmercer.com> <20030905173151.GQ58346@horsey.gshapiro.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1062783907.367.51.camel@dual.mmercer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:45:07 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster fails when building temproot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:45:12 -0000 Thanks, that was it! later Michael On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 13:31, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > > mergemaster fails saying freebsd.cf does not exist when > > building temproot. > > > > Have I missed something here? > > You need to install the new version of mergemaster before > running it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 10:48:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DAC16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF07743FF9 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vKi3-0004Ii-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:49:23 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vKi2-0004Ia-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:49:22 +0200 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vKha-0001RW-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:48:54 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:48:53 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <44fzjb72wk.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: process memory peak recording X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:48:57 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Jesse Guardiani writes: > >> During a recent programming/installation >> project, I found myself wanting to know >> the peak memory usage of a given command/process. >> >> Is there any way to gather this information >> without recompiling an application with a >> sleep or wait statement at the (assumed) >> point of peak memory usage and then looking >> at the process with 'ps'? > > Running under a debugger is one typical way of doing this. > For strictly malloc(3)'d memory, a memory profiler will be an easier > option. If I remember correctly, there is a choice of them in the > ports system. These are generally things you have to compile into your applications, right? I'm specifically dealing with Perl and Python scripts that I did not write. However, I do some C programming from time to time, and learning how to use a memory profiler/leak detector is extremely appealing to me. Which is your favorite? Which works the best? Thanks! -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:14:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DAE16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aeimail.aei.ca (aeimail.aei.ca [206.123.6.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05854401A for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:14:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anarcat@anarcat.ath.cx) Received: from shall.anarcat.ath.cx (34na5mxqhoahw5zr@dsl-133-58.aei.ca [66.36.133.58]) by aeimail.aei.ca (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id h85IEci03938 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oder.anarcat.ath.cx (oder.anarcat.ath.cx [192.168.0.32]) by shall.anarcat.ath.cx (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E6602C; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by oder.anarcat.ath.cx (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:14:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:14:36 -0400 From: The Anarcat To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20030905181436.GF514@inso.ath.cx> Mail-Followup-To: The Anarcat , FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="N8ia4yKhAKKETby7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: anarcat@anarcat.ath.cx Subject: bug in sh or misinterpretation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:14:40 -0000 --N8ia4yKhAKKETby7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [please CC, I don't follow -questions] Hello! I've been struggling with an odd quirk in sh(1). Here is my sample code: --- 8< cut here 8< --- cleanup () { echo "cleaning up $pid" kill $pid } ( echo "in subshell" tail -f /etc/motd & pid=3D$! trap cleanup 1 2 15 wait $pid || echo "command failed" ) & wait --- 8< cut here 8< --- The idea is to be able *in the subshell* to cleanup a backgrounded command. The result is unexpected: anarcat@shall[~/src/local/bin/worldtools]% sh test_trap.sh=20 in subshell FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE (SHALL) #0: Wed Aug 13 16:46:04 EDT 2003 Welcome to Shall, multi-purpose file/mail/web/ftp server. ^C anarcat@shall[~/src/local/bin/worldtools]% ps PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 14162 p1 Ss 0:03,95 -zsh (zsh) 16918 p1 S 0:00,00 sh test_trap.sh 16919 p1 S 0:00,00 sh test_trap.sh 16920 p1 S 0:00,01 tail -f /etc/motd 16922 p1 R+ 0:00,00 ps i.e. the subshell doesn't call the trap!! I've searched long and large manuals, I even tried debugging (i'm about to build sh with debugging symbols now): the subshell *really* receives the signal, it just ignores it. The sh manpage says that: When the shell forks off a subshell, it resets trapped (but not ignored) signals to the default action. The trap command has = no effect on signals that were ignored on entry to the shell. Well, it looks like calling trap in the subshell doesn't work. For reference, in bash and zsh behave correctly: anarcat@shall[~/src/local/bin/worldtools]% zsh test_trap.sh=20 in subshell FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE (SHALL) #0: Wed Aug 13 16:46:04 EDT 2003 Welcome to Shall, multi-purpose file/mail/web/ftp server. ^Ccleaning up 16947 anarcat@shall[~/src/local/bin/worldtools]% command failed Is it me? Or do I head for GNATS? :) A. --=20 There has been only one Christian. They caught him and crucified him -- early. - Mark Twain --N8ia4yKhAKKETby7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/WNKMttcWHAnWiGcRAm7ZAJ4nBVa6JI5twAD52HX4DcdrynPumQCgk07W 3wkdSpZ3iVYnAsjH6aROp04= =1yzv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --N8ia4yKhAKKETby7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:18:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DD416A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out0.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (out2.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net [169.207.3.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2454F43FE0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:18:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dragoncrest@voyager.net) Received: from mail5.mx.voyager.net (mail5.mx.voyager.net [216.93.66.204]) by out0.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE502863D for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:18:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (nm7.mx.lnng.mi.voyager.net [216.93.38.233]) by mail5.mx.voyager.net (8.12.9/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h85IINFx083245 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200309051818.h85IINFx083245@mail5.mx.voyager.net> From: "Dragoncrest" To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: CoreCommMail X-IPAddress: 209.153.128.248 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:18:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Strange Mouse issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:18:26 -0000 Recently I had my BSD install go totally down in flames with a smashing finale where it exploded into a billion pieces and wafted off into oblivion. (blame the hardware, not me.) Anywho, I've since resurrected the box but with one strange little quirk. The mouse freaks out like a cat on crack. Any movement causes it to jump to the upper left corner, go absolutely apesh** and do some totally weird things like false right and left clicks even if all I'm doing is moving the mouse. Reboot didn't resolve the issue (had to reboot anyways as part of a kernel rebuild) so I am assuming it's not a hardware issue. The mouse works fine in the console, but it absolutely will not work under X. Any ideas? I've even rebuilt my X config several times. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:24:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E35316A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adicia.telenet-ops.be (adicia.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3BD44005 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike.guilmot@pandora.be) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 6755C384D2; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:24:14 +0200 (MEST) Received: from D57650F9.kabel.telenet.be (D57650F9.kabel.telenet.be [213.118.80.249]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D4A380D0; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:24:13 +0200 (MEST) From: Guilmot Mike To: "Dragoncrest" , questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:24:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200309051818.h85IINFx083245@mail5.mx.voyager.net> In-Reply-To: <200309051818.h85IINFx083245@mail5.mx.voyager.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309052024.50370.mike.guilmot@pandora.be> Subject: Re: Strange Mouse issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:24:17 -0000 On Friday 05 September 2003 20:18, Dragoncrest wrote: > Recently I had my BSD install go totally down in flames with a smashing > finale where it exploded into a billion pieces and wafted off into > oblivion. (blame the hardware, not me.) Anywho, I've since resurrected > the box but with one strange little quirk. The mouse freaks out like a > cat on crack. Any movement causes it to jump to the upper left corner, > go absolutely apesh** and do some totally weird things like false right > and left clicks even if all I'm doing is moving the mouse. Reboot > didn't resolve the issue (had to reboot anyways as part of a kernel > rebuild) so I am assuming it's not a hardware issue. The mouse works > fine in the console, but it absolutely will not work under X. Any > ideas? I've even rebuilt my X config several times. Is this in XFree86 while moused is still running ? If yes, try killing moused. This helped for me. The mouse ran just fine afterwards. Kind regards, Guilmot Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4424B16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx9.mail.ru (mx9.mail.ru [194.67.23.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6904D43FDD for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:26:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from intraden@mail.ru) Received: from [80.82.38.161] (port=1048 helo=comp) by mx9.mail.ru with esmtp id 19vLHu-000Dou-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:26:27 +0400 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:41:40 +0400 From: Denis X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <363006314.20030905194140@mail.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected Subject: AVI format in FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Denis List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:26:50 -0000 Hi All!!! Does FBSD support AVI format files? I can't open avi files, but why? What I can do to play avi? -- Best regards, Denis intraden@mail.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:31:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE82C16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apate.telenet-ops.be (apate.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18FD43FE0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:31:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike.guilmot@pandora.be) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apate.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A3E3387E2 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:31:25 +0200 (MEST) Received: from D57650F9.kabel.telenet.be (D57650F9.kabel.telenet.be [213.118.80.249]) by apate.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123B939276 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:31:25 +0200 (MEST) From: Guilmot Mike To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:32:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <363006314.20030905194140@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <363006314.20030905194140@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309052032.01521.mike.guilmot@pandora.be> Subject: Re: AVI format in FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:31:29 -0000 On Friday 05 September 2003 17:41, Denis wrote: > Hi All!!! > > Does FBSD support AVI format files? > I can't open avi files, but why? > What I can do to play avi? I guess you mean DivX ? Xvid should work already in FreeBSD (i'm not sure, but I think). For DivX you have to install the DivX codec. It's as simple as that. http://www.divx.com Kind regards, Guilmot Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:33:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2EA16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web21105.mail.yahoo.com (web21105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5426543FF2 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:33:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from materribile@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030905183311.25912.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.228.74.10] by web21105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:33:11 PDT Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:33:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Terribile To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030905150535.3988516A4C0@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: I need to control a bunch of files. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:33:11 -0000 Vitali Malicky writes > I need to control a bunch of files. > As soon as any of these files changes it should > be immediately rechecked and correct chmod and > chown reset on this file(s). > I'd like them to be controlled by a process which > would monitor any possible changes in these files > and would do the job upon the event. If it's a local file system, you may be able to do it with the kqueue(2)/kevent(2) mechanism. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:34:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED3A16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from svr7.m-online.net (svr7.m-online.net [62.245.150.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB1543FFB for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:34:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from h@schmalzbauer.de) Received: from cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (ppp-62-245-161-92.mnet-online.de [62.245.161.92]) by svr7.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675E378EC7; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:34:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Harald Schmalzbauer To: Denis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:33:59 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <363006314.20030905194140@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <363006314.20030905194140@mail.ru> X-Birthday: 06 Oktober 1972 X-Name: Harald Schmalzbauer X-Phone1: +49 (0) 163 555 3237 X-Phone2: +49 (0) 89 18947781 X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-Country: Germany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_gcNW/MTjUvsYHC+"; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200309052034.08266@harrymail> Subject: Re: AVI format in FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:34:08 -0000 --Boundary-02=_gcNW/MTjUvsYHC+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 05 September 2003 17:41, Denis wrote: > Hi All!!! > > Does FBSD support AVI format files? > I can't open avi files, but why? > What I can do to play avi? AVI is just a "container" so you don't know which codec is used. Try mplayer (/usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer). It uses win32codecs thus can p= lay=20 almost any format. =2DHarry --Boundary-02=_gcNW/MTjUvsYHC+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA/WNcgBylq0S4AzzwRAkd5AJ9mtOJbsbsshAGGGarpKBkUdbN59QCfeI4j LP204s2AoCE54OP6aPn5W9M= =YLST -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_gcNW/MTjUvsYHC+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:35:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D4E16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmyster.com (loqtis.bmyster.com [65.162.190.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E3D43FCB for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:35:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from misterb@bmyster.com) Received: from loqtis.bmyster.com (localhost.bmyster.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmyster.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85IdWI7047350 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from www@localhost) by loqtis.bmyster.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h85IdRro047349; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:39:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: loqtis.bmyster.com: www set sender to misterb@bmyster.com using -f Received: from 66.63.97.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mrb) by bmyster.com with HTTP; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1141.66.63.97.2.1062787167.squirrel@bmyster.com> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:39:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brent Bailey" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: rsync install help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: misterb@bmyster.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:35:47 -0000 Im using FBSD 4.8rc1 ..IM getting ready to install rsync to help with mirroring to another redundant FBSD box. I was wondering if anyone could point me a a good howto for this ? any and all help is greatly appreciated -- Brent Bailey CCNA Bmyster LLC Computer Networking and Webhosting Network Engineer, Webmaster, President http://www.bmyster.com mrb@bmyster.com 207-247-8330 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:39:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC41316A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web21103.mail.yahoo.com (web21103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E174443FE0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from materribile@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030905183913.65234.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.228.74.10] by web21103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:39:13 PDT Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:39:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Terribile To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030905150535.3988516A4C0@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: CUPS, foomatic-rip, 4.8 RELEASE (was: How to get CUPS to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:39:16 -0000 > ... but here are the ADDITIONAL things I had to > do to get the cups port/package working properly > under FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE: (This may not all be > necessary under 4.8-RELEASE. YMMV.) Ah, yes. I think I forgot to add that I had to change the lpd_program variable in /etc/rc.conf : /etc/rc.conf:lpd_program="/usr/local/sbin/cupsd" # path to lpd, if you want a different one. This is a 4.6 system upgraded to 4.7 . Mark Terribile __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:51:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FA516A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lilzmailfe02.liwest.at (lilzmailfe02.liwest.at [212.33.55.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E5043FEC for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:51:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from cm58-27.liwest.at ([212.33.58.27]) by lilzmailfe02.liwest.at with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19vLfB-0005Bv-QP; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:50:30 +0200 From: Daniela To: "Dragoncrest" , questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:48:58 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <200309051818.h85IINFx083245@mail5.mx.voyager.net> In-Reply-To: <200309051818.h85IINFx083245@mail5.mx.voyager.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309052048.58639.dgw@liwest.at> Subject: Re: Strange Mouse issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:51:41 -0000 On Friday 05 September 2003 18:18, Dragoncrest wrote: > Recently I had my BSD install go totally down in flames with a smashing > finale where it exploded into a billion pieces and wafted off into > oblivion. (blame the hardware, not me.) Anywho, I've since resurrected > the box but with one strange little quirk. The mouse freaks out like a > cat on crack. Any movement causes it to jump to the upper left corner, > go absolutely apesh** and do some totally weird things like false right > and left clicks even if all I'm doing is moving the mouse. Reboot > didn't resolve the issue (had to reboot anyways as part of a kernel > rebuild) so I am assuming it's not a hardware issue. The mouse works > fine in the console, but it absolutely will not work under X. Any > ideas? I've even rebuilt my X config several times. I had this too. You needn't kill moused. There's most likely something wrong with your X11 config file. Try setting the device to /dev/sysmouse and the protocol to auto. If this doesn't work, please post the mouse section of the X11 config file and what mouse you have. Daniela From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 11:55:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2944C16A4C0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhumketu.homeunix.net (dialpool-210-214-66-175.maa.sify.net [210.214.66.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACBF43FEC for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:55:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dhumketu.cjb.net) Received: by dhumketu.homeunix.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 125CE5D0; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 00:03:01 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 00:03:01 +0530 From: Shantanu Mahajan To: KroNiC~BSD Message-ID: <20030904183301.GA795@dhumketu.homeunix.net> Mail-Followup-To: KroNiC~BSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030904040608.D11CA3AA8E@www.fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030904040608.D11CA3AA8E@www.fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: Hmmm... I dunno X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Two X sessions on one machine??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:55:08 -0000 +-- KroNiC~BSD [freebsd] [04-09-03 09:36 IST]: | Is it possible to have more that one X session running on the same | machine? The problem is if i want to create a remote X connection to my | linux machine via my Freebsd machine i have to kill the current running | LOCAL X session first.....then i can "from the freebsd machine" # X | -query 192.168.0.6 | and get a X session on the linux machine. | | On my Freebsd box, with a local X session , i would like to open a | terminal ...aterm or xterm and then somehow in that terminal create a X | session to the linux machine. | | I have tried this but get the following error: | | freeebsd# X -query 192.168.0.62 | | Fatal server error: | Server is already active for display 0 | If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock | and start again. | | | When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send | the full server output, not just the last messages. | Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org | | | | i assume the error is local because my current running local X session is | on display 0 . | | is it possible for me to do this as i would like to remotly connect to 3 | machines via X but still have use of my local machine | | | Thanks in advance. | -- | KroNiC~BSD | kronic_bsd@fastmail.fm startx -- :1 -- Regards, Shantanu Mahajan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 12:00:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A40D16A4C1 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D3343FF3 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vLpa-0004yy-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:01:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vLpZ-0004yq-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:01:13 +0200 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vLp6-00047S-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:00:44 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:00:43 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <20030905150535.3988516A4C0@hub.freebsd.org> <20030905183913.65234.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: CUPS, foomatic-rip, 4.8 RELEASE (was: How to get CUPS to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:00:49 -0000 Mark Terribile wrote: > > >> ... but here are the ADDITIONAL things I had to >> do to get the cups port/package working properly >> under FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE: (This may not all be >> necessary under 4.8-RELEASE. YMMV.) > > Ah, yes. I think I forgot to add that I had to > change the lpd_program variable in /etc/rc.conf : > > /etc/rc.conf:lpd_program="/usr/local/sbin/cupsd" > # path to lpd, if you want a different one. > > This is a 4.6 system upgraded to 4.7 . Hmmm... wouldn't running `/usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd.sh start` at boot time do the same thing? Stuff in the rc.d directories runs automatically at boot time. Or is the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory new since FreeBSD 4.7? -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 12:18:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A867A16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD98243F93 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:18:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h85JIeuo059401 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:18:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from kargl@localhost)h85JIe20059400 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:18:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven G. Kargl" Message-Id: <200309051918.h85JIe20059400@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:18:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL99f (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: PAM, X11, and su as a normal user? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:18:42 -0000 After a few hours of frustation, it's time to ask a question. I have 2 accounts on my machine. I use startx to start X11 as user kargl. If I then su to user sgk, I cannot fire up X clients. For example, troutmask:kargl[202] su sgk Password: troutmask:sgk[201] gnuplot Terminal type set to 'x11' gnuplot> plot sin(x) gnuplot> gnuplot: unable to open display 'troutmask.apl.washington.edu:0' gnuplot: X11 aborted. I've tried using "xhost sgk@", but this doesn't work. The only thing I can think of that may need to be configured is PAM, but the documentation is rather incomplete. So, anyone know how to setup su to permit sgk to use X clients? -- Steve http://troutmask.apl.washington.edu/~kargl/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 12:42:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B8616A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lilzmailfe02.liwest.at (lilzmailfe02.liwest.at [212.33.55.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09474400B for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:42:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgw@liwest.at) Received: from cm58-27.liwest.at ([212.33.58.27]) by lilzmailfe02.liwest.at with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 19vMSX-0004au-7Q; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:41:29 +0200 From: Daniela To: Denis Troshin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:40:01 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <1671561231.20280829005225@mail.ru> In-Reply-To: <1671561231.20280829005225@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309052140.01711.dgw@liwest.at> Subject: Re: Necessary code or trash? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:42:40 -0000 On Monday 28 August 2028 17:52, Denis Troshin wrote: > Hi! > > I have FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE. > > Why most of bin (sbin) utilities are so big. > > For example, > > rm - 410 268 bytes, > mv - 407 568 bytes, > date - 423 748 bytes. > > Do they really contain only necessary code or > have more than a half of trash? > > If you think my question is very stupid to answer, > please give a few links to read about this problem. Did you compile debug symbols in? If you want them smaller, you can link them dynamically: Add -DNOSTATIC to the make command line. But be prepared: /sbin/init doesn't like this (unless /usr is on the same partition), because it needs to access the libraries. Be sure to back up any binaries the system needs to access before /usr is mounted, and restore them right after installation. Check your boot floppy: If anything causes a reboot before the binaries are restored, your system would be UNBOOTABLE, and you'd be in real trouble. Dynamic linking causes the binaries to load code from shared libraries. Statically linked binaries have the library contents copied into themselves. All the system binaries are statically linked, so there's a lot of duplicate code. However, static linking is a lot faster and more convenient. If you need the space and are willing to accept the performance hit and aren't afraid of some extra work, then link them dynamically. But don't say I haven't warned you of the consequences! I'm not an expert at this, if someone knows better, please correct me. Regards, Daniela From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 12:45:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C614E16A4C0; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtao03.cox.net (lakemtao03.cox.net [68.1.17.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC0B43F75; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from A.J.Caines@halplant.com) Received: from mail.halplant.com ([68.98.167.210]) by lakemtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.04 201-253-122-130-104-20030726) with ESMTP id <20030905194513.RTDO10812.lakemtao03.cox.net@mail.halplant.com>; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:45:13 -0400 Received: by mail.halplant.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id: 45:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:45:11 -0400 From: Andrew J Caines To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030905194511.GA4910@hal9000.halplant.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030902224136.GA98381@dan.emsphone.com> <20030903110615.GA25233@chuggalug.clues.com> <20030903132303.GA53246@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030903132303.GA53246@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie> Organization: H.A.L. Plant X-PGP-Fingerprint: C59A 2F74 1139 9432 B457 0B61 DDF2 AA61 67C3 18A1 X-Powered-by: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-URL: http://halplant.com:88/ X-Yahoo-Profile: AJ_Z0 Importance: Normal User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: 20TB Storage System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andrew J Caines List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:45:14 -0000 [Warning: semi-useless information ahead] On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 11:06:15AM +0000, Geoff Buckingham wrote: > However I just read the newfs man page and am intrigued to know what effect > the -g and -h options have.... Somewhere in -STABLE between 4.8-RELEASE and a month or so ago I recreated a filesystem [~50 GB] on a single disk and used these two options [-g (~8 MB) -h ~8, IIRC] and after mounting any writes would cause a panic. Other options were -U -m 1%, IIRC. At the time I didn't try to debug and just dropped those two options and made a new filesystem, then all was well. I think this was about a month or two ago. Sorry for the extreme vagueness, but I thought it better to mention it. -Andrew- -- _______________________________________________________________________ | -Andrew J. Caines- Unix Systems Engineer A.J.Caines@halplant.com | | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary | | safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 12:50:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B073716A4C0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [65.173.111.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7864143FB1 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85Jo0Cu055337; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:50:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id h85Jo01V055331; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:50:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:50:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Mark Terribile In-Reply-To: <20030905183913.65234.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030905134735.I55278@wonkity.com> References: <20030905183913.65234.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CUPS, foomatic-rip, 4.8 RELEASE (was: How to get CUPS to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:50:03 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Mark Terribile wrote: > > ... but here are the ADDITIONAL things I had to > > do to get the cups port/package working properly > > under FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE: (This may not all be > > necessary under 4.8-RELEASE. YMMV.) > > Ah, yes. I think I forgot to add that I had to > change the lpd_program variable in /etc/rc.conf : > > /etc/rc.conf:lpd_program="/usr/local/sbin/cupsd" > # path to lpd, if you want a different one. > > This is a 4.6 system upgraded to 4.7 . That is not necessary. The steps you documented earlier--about having to manually create a bunch of directories before CUPS would work--looked like just what I found on a 4.8 system earlier this week. Anyway, the CUPS startup in /usr/local/etc/rc.d will run the CUPS daemon. It isn't necessary to replace lpd, which will run at the same time. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 12:51:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F4516A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pgh.nepinc.com (pgh.nepinc.com [66.207.129.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED1C43FEA for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from durham@jcdurham.com) Received: from jimslaptop.pitt.nepinc.com (jimslaptop.pitt.nepinc.com [192.100.100.107]) (authenticated) by pgh.nepinc.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h85JpL625047; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:51:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from durham@jcdurham.com) From: Jim Durham Organization: JC Durham Consulting To: Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:51:18 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309051551.18424.durham@jcdurham.com> Subject: Re: virus scan programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: durham@jcdurham.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:51:24 -0000 On Friday 05 September 2003 12:32 pm, Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov wrote: > Dear freeBSD enthusiast, > Greetings. I am a newcomer to the BSD/Unix world. My place > of employment is a large agency with thousands of client machines. > Most of the clients use Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional > operating system. Most of the servers use either Novell operating > system, or I.B.M. Domino operating system. A very important ritual > that each client computer performs every morning at boot-up time is > to run a virus scan application program. This program is run > whether or not the user desires it, because it runs before the user > us granted a log-on screen. In my reading of Unix and BSD > literature, I have found no mention of virus scan programs for > these operating systems. Do such programs not exist? Alternately, > is the Unix/BSD approach to this problem in a different > philosophical and/or procedural sphere? If so, could you describe > the Unix/BSD approach to locating and eradicating these invaders of > one's hard drive? If the issue is already explained in either > printed literature, or posted at a world wide web site, it is > sufficient to cite the location. Many thanks for your response. As mentioned by others, *nix systems are highly virus-imune and also most viruses are written for Windows. Sophos is one virus software supplier that has a native freebsd version of their virus scanning engine. (www.sophos.com). If you wished to scan for viruses at system boot time, you could put a startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d to start Sophos sweep. There are other virus software companies that support *nix, but Sophos was one that I know has a FreeBSD version. -Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 12:52:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3970C16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from angryfist.fasttrackmonkey.com (angryfist.fasttrackmonkey.com [216.223.196.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9B243FBF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:52:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@fasttrackmonkey.com) Received: (qmail 77744 invoked by uid 85); 5 Sep 2003 19:49:00 -0000 Received: from spork@fasttrackmonkey.com by angryfist.fasttrackmonkey.com by uid 1001 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (sophie: 2.9/3.56. Clear:. Processed in 0.121649 secs); 05 Sep 2003 19:49:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO green.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (66.92.108.110) by 0 with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 5 Sep 2003 19:48:59 -0000 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:52:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Sprickman Sender: spork@green.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030905154536.A822@green.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: sharing FW drive w/OS-X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:52:35 -0000 Hi, I've been battling this for some time, and I figured perhaps someone here has done this already. I have a 60GB IDE drive in a firewire enclosure. Works great w/FreeBSD. It's partitioned like so: Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 94365747 94365809 da0s1 8 freebsd 165 94365810 22860495 117226304 da0s2 7 fat 6 117226305 5103 117231407 - 12 unused 0 And I'd like to use one of those spare fdisk partitons (not a slice) on my OS-X machine for backup purposes. The "fat" partition is left over from a test to see if a "newfs_msdos" partition would mount on OS-X (it did). Any idea on the partition ID for HFS? >From the little info I could find, OS-X/Apple has their own partition table in sector 2, which is independant of the "normal" partition table. Rather than delve into this further and confuse the issue, I'll leave this at "Has anyone done this?"... Thanks, Charles From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 12:58:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD8E16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freshaire.wiz.com (freshaire.wiz.com [66.143.183.129]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EB143FEC for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:58:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@wiz.com) Received: from freshaire.wiz.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freshaire.wiz.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h85JwapZ018360 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:58:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from marc@freshaire.wiz.com) Received: (from marc@localhost) by freshaire.wiz.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h85JwaXX018359 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:58:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:58:35 -0500 From: Marc Wiz To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20030905195835.GA16760@freshaire.wiz.com> References: <20030905154536.A822@green.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030905154536.A822@green.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Re: sharing FW drive w/OS-X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:58:38 -0000 On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 03:52:30PM -0400, Charles Sprickman wrote: > Hi, > > I've been battling this for some time, and I figured perhaps someone here > has done this already. I have a 60GB IDE drive in a firewire enclosure. > Works great w/FreeBSD. It's partitioned like so: > > Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype > Flags > > 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 > 63 94365747 94365809 da0s1 8 freebsd 165 > 94365810 22860495 117226304 da0s2 7 fat 6 > 117226305 5103 117231407 - 12 unused 0 > > > And I'd like to use one of those spare fdisk partitons (not a slice) on my > OS-X machine for backup purposes. The "fat" partition is left over from a > test to see if a "newfs_msdos" partition would mount on OS-X (it did). > Any idea on the partition ID for HFS? > While we're talking about Firewire is it possible to have the firewire enclosure connected to two systems at the same time so you don't have to go about unplugging and plugging cables? Assuming that the above can be done, what about simultaenous access to the device (both systems accessing the device at the same time)? Will it work if only reads are done? I won't open the can of worms of simultaneous write access :-) Thanks, Marc -- Marc Wiz marc@wiz.com Yes, that really is my last name. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 12:59:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9652016A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [65.173.111.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD30243F93 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 12:59:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85JxqCu055365; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:59:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id h85Jxpb9055362; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:59:51 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:59:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Michael Vondung In-Reply-To: <001301c373be$9e8c9660$0200a8c0@tabby> Message-ID: <20030905135559.H55278@wonkity.com> References: <001301c373be$9e8c9660$0200a8c0@tabby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Planning a FreeBSD desktop, basic questions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:59:55 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Michael Vondung wrote: > Partitions > > If anything brings out the perfectionist in me, it is figuring out how to > partition a disk. What I have in mind for the 80GB FreeBSD disk for the > workstation is this: > > / = 512MB (too spacey, but that should be plenty for future releases) Actually, on large disks I give / 1G. Why? Because, in the unlikely event that Something Bad happens, that would be plenty of room to hold a FreeBSD ISO image, or some other ISO image for some kind of recovery tool. > swap = 3GB (see notes below) This strikes even me as too much. It's not like Windows, where it'll use swap even if it doesn't need it. Double your RAM is probably more than enough. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 13:00:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99B716A4F7 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F12A43FD7 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:00:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85K01Og025113; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h85K00mJ025111; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:00:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200309052000.h85K00mJ025111@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: spork@fasttrackmonkey.com (Charles Sprickman) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:00:00 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20030905154536.A822@green.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com> from "Charles Sprickman" at Sep 05, 2003 03:52:30 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sharing FW drive w/OS-X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:00:07 -0000 > > Hi, > > I've been battling this for some time, and I figured perhaps someone here > has done this already. I have a 60GB IDE drive in a firewire enclosure. > Works great w/FreeBSD. It's partitioned like so: > > Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype > Flags > > 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 > 63 94365747 94365809 da0s1 8 freebsd 165 > 94365810 22860495 117226304 da0s2 7 fat 6 > 117226305 5103 117231407 - 12 unused 0 > > > And I'd like to use one of those spare fdisk partitons (not a slice) on my > OS-X machine for backup purposes. Maybe you are confusing the terms. fdisk makes "slices" not partitions. Within a slice, disklabel makes partitions. Each of those pieces you have listed above are slices. Since Microsloth calls slices partitions, I am not surprised that this is confusing. ////jerry > The "fat" partition is left over from a > test to see if a "newfs_msdos" partition would mount on OS-X (it did). > Any idea on the partition ID for HFS? > > >From the little info I could find, OS-X/Apple has their own partition > table in sector 2, which is independant of the "normal" partition table. > > Rather than delve into this further and confuse the issue, I'll leave this > at "Has anyone done this?"... > > Thanks, > > Charles > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 13:01:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD9116A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B593A43FF2 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:01:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h85K0OQr066492 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:01:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)h85K0Obt066491; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:00:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:00:24 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Brent Bailey Message-ID: <20030905200024.GA45683@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Brent Bailey , questions@freebsd.org References: <1141.66.63.97.2.1062787167.squirrel@bmyster.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1141.66.63.97.2.1062787167.squirrel@bmyster.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync install help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:01:20 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 02:39:27PM -0400, Brent Bailey wrote: > Im using FBSD 4.8rc1 ..IM getting ready to install rsync to help with > mirroring to another redundant FBSD box. I was wondering if anyone could > point me a a good howto for this ? Oooh... an easy one. # cd /usr/ports/net/rsync # make install =20 > any and all help is greatly appreciated Actually, I guess you aren't asking so much about how to install rsync(1), as how to do the mirroring to the second machine. The thing to realise is that rsync on FreeBSD runs over ssh(1) by default. Presumably you want the rsync job to happen automatically, which means you need to set up a mechanism by which ssh(1) can authenticate to the other machine without stopping to input a password. That's explained here: http://www.snailbook.com/faq/no-passphrase.auto.html Once you've got the authentication bit working, then it's simply a matter of running something derived from this at regular intervals: #!/bin/sh remote=3D"sparehost.example.com" fslist=3D"/ /usr /home" for fs in $fslist ;=20 do rsync -azx --delete ${remote}:${fs}/ ${fs}/ done Note that you'll need to run as root on both ends of the connection, which implies that you'll be allowing root access without a password =66rom one machine to the other, so you need to pay attention to the features available in the authorized_keys file to ameliorate the damage possible should the key be stolen. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/WOtYdtESqEQa7a0RAqceAJ4vk0JuisUcd1fdD46kuONuGJvR7wCfYOn2 2AbLZtpNozpa6rWRds1oFfg= =fdzk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 13:04:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CCE16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pgh.nepinc.com (pgh.nepinc.com [66.207.129.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A314400D for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:04:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from durham@jcdurham.com) Received: from jimslaptop.pitt.nepinc.com (jimslaptop.pitt.nepinc.com [192.100.100.107]) (authenticated) by pgh.nepinc.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h85K4O633055; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:04:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from durham@jcdurham.com) From: Jim Durham Organization: JC Durham Consulting To: Malcolm Kay Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:04:21 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <1062511023.4165.5.camel@cronos.home.vsb> <200309030129.27754.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <200309030129.27754.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309051604.21653.durham@jcdurham.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: durham@jcdurham.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:04:35 -0000 On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:59 am, Malcolm Kay wrote: > On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 23:27, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > Hello > > > > I'm using rsync to sort of mirror two 40GB disks (once a day). > > All partitions work as expected, but root is weird (and as you > > can see below, I sort of made it too small). > > > > I use this command: > > /usr/local/bin/rsync -ax --delete / /mirror/rootfs > > > > But this is what I'm getting: > > df -m > > Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/ad0s1a 154 71 70 51% / > > /dev/ad1s1a 154 138 4 97% /mirror/rootfs > > > > So, there's a 67 MB difference between both. > > I started out wite a cleanly formatted mirror (UFS2) > > > > My system is FreeBSD 5.0 RELEASE-p11 > > > > Thanks for any help > > > > Guy > > I expect rsync does not recognise hard linked files as such and > makes separate images of each directory link. Looking through > /stand on my 4.8 system I see that this would create about 60Mb > extra. > > You might do better with dump and restore: > # cd /miiror/rootfs > # dump -0 -a -f - / | restore -r -f - > > Malcolm > rsync -H preserves hard links. Maybe try rsync -Hax --delete ? -Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 13:07:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D946616A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2699043F3F for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h85K7bQr066617 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:07:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)h85K7bPv066616; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:07:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:07:37 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: "Steven G. Kargl" Message-ID: <20030905200737.GB45683@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , "Steven G. Kargl" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200309051918.h85JIe20059400@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QTprm0S8XgL7H0Dt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200309051918.h85JIe20059400@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAM, X11, and su as a normal user? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:08:00 -0000 --QTprm0S8XgL7H0Dt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:18:40PM -0700, Steven G. Kargl wrote: > After a few hours of frustation, it's time to ask a question. >=20 > I have 2 accounts on my machine. I use startx to start > X11 as user kargl. If I then su to user sgk, I cannot > fire up X clients. For example, >=20 > troutmask:kargl[202] su sgk > Password: > troutmask:sgk[201] gnuplot > Terminal type set to 'x11' > gnuplot> plot sin(x) > gnuplot>=20 > gnuplot: unable to open display 'troutmask.apl.washington.edu:0' > gnuplot: X11 aborted. >=20 > I've tried using "xhost sgk@", but this doesn't work. > The only thing I can think of that may need to be > configured is PAM, but the documentation is rather > incomplete. So, anyone know how to setup su to > permit sgk to use X clients? As user kargl: % xauth nextract /tmp/foo ${DISPLAY} As user sgk: % xauth nmerge /tmp/foo and remember to delete /tmp/foo as soon as possible. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --QTprm0S8XgL7H0Dt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQE/WO0JdtESqEQa7a0RArQLAJ9E5VPS0FA7zYlKVpkgSs7i5+3kxQCYj83j PfsodI/caOcjwAqLHXgmXA== =kd9R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QTprm0S8XgL7H0Dt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 13:12:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005A816A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merle.it.northwestern.edu (merle.it.northwestern.edu [129.105.16.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1168C43FE1 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:12:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r-militante@northwestern.edu) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by merle.it.northwestern.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h85KCQ0Q000112 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:12:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from merle.it.northwestern.edu (darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu [129.105.51.23]) by merle.it.northwestern.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma029550; Fri, 5 Sep 03 15:12:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:03:18 -0500 From: Redmond Militante To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030905200318.GJ65035@darkpossum> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MzdA25v054BPvyZa" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Sender: redmond@darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu X-URL: http://darkpossum.medill.northwestern.edu/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1 X-DSA-and-ElGamal-Fingerprint: 2AA2 E78E A6FC 9144 3534 39A2 EE0F 8D26 5FDF 481D Subject: ipfilter vs. firewall appliance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Redmond Militante List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:12:28 -0000 --MzdA25v054BPvyZa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi i have an ipfilter/ipnat box, that i'm using to protect an apache webserver. the machine is 4.7-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p3 #1: Mon Aug 11 18:27:0= 6 CDT 2003. the machine is a dell optiplex gx260 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40G= Hz 512 mb of ram. it's been doing a fine job. i'd like to get extra nics for this machine and stick additional servers, s= uch as our win2k domain controllers, and a mysql box, possibly more, behind= the firewall/nat. =20 i wanted to ask - for a firewall/nat that would potentially be protecting m= ultiple production machines, is ipfilter's performance comparable to produc= tion firewall appliances and software such as netscreen and symantec firewa= ll? i'm the only unix person where i work, and sometimes it's hard to get proje= cts green lighted when a) i'm the only one on staff who knows the technolog= y and b) it probably seems hard to believe to windows admins that a little = pentium3 box with 2 nic cards and hand written firewall rules can do the sa= me thing as an appliance that some companies are charging tens of thousands= of dollars for. i'd like to be able to present a case to my employers - that the ipfilter/i= pnat box that i set up would be able to provide the performance of commerci= al firewall solutions, and was wondering if anyone knows of any benchmarks/= reviews/etc. that i can cite. any comments welcome thanks as always redmond --=20 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Thu Aug 28 12:42:04 CDT 2= 003 2:45PM up 8 days, 1:42, 1 user, load averages: 0.73, 0.23, 0.13 =20 "You should, without hesitation, pound your typewriter into a plowshare, your paper into fertilizer, and enter agriculture." -- Business Professor, University of Georgia =20 --MzdA25v054BPvyZa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/WOwG7g+NJl/fSB0RAligAKDLARifPPJLzt7oDN4OtIZV94NsiQCgv754 nTbHxq1mBKOUL2Wp1NxrOcE= =WCsg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MzdA25v054BPvyZa-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 13:18:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1797416A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.strencom.net (ns2.strencom.net [217.75.0.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F32643FEC for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:18:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ah@raidtec.ie) Received: from raptor.raidtec.ie ([217.75.2.18]) by ns2.strencom.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h85KGEag027670 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:16:15 +0100 Received: from no.name.available by raptor.raidtec.ie SMTP; 5 Sep 2003 20:26:46 UT content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:22:29 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FibreChannel Adapter support Thread-Index: AcNz60N1mpcXNt/BEdeSNQAQYbCl4g== From: "Aidan Hayes" To: Subject: FibreChannel Adapter support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:18:55 -0000 Hi I would appreciate any feedback/confirmation on FibreChannel HBA support = (Qlogic, Emulex, etc), under FreeBSD versions 4.8 or higher. Best Regards Aidan Hayes RAIDTEC Corporation Aidan Hayes Raidtec Corporation Castle Road, Little Island, Cork, IRELAND Tel: +353-21-4353440 Ext:258=20 Fax: +353-21-4353799=20 Email: ah@raidtec.ie=20 http://www.raidtec.com > Raidtec - Your Storage Networking Partner >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 13:19:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F2916A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4360243F3F for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:19:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628183F8C for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:19:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:21:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3F58B813.23688.62757AB@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: disk problem ATA => DMA problem fallback to POI mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:19:58 -0000 Please CC me on replies. I arrived home this afternoon to find a box had rebooted and is having trouble with its IDE drive. A screen shot is at http://www.freebsddiary.org/tmp/ata-failure.jpg My current plan: 1 - add a new IDE drive 2 - install FreeBSD on that 3 - run "fsck -y" each on each volume of the old drive 4 - copy content from the old to the new Any suggestions/comments? -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 13:28:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0852216A4C0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E516143F75 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simian.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h85KSpFb018193; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:28:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030905161721.025a9498@209.112.4.2> X-Sender: mdtpop@209.112.4.2 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:30:49 -0400 To: Redmond Militante , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <20030905200318.GJ65035@darkpossum> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: By Sentex Communications (lava/20020517) Subject: Re: ipfilter vs. firewall appliance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:28:53 -0000 Well, if you can, crack open a "hardware" firewall like a Cisco PIX. You will recognize a LOT of what is in there and you will be very surprised. I have hardware in quotes because the only real differentiator is that PCs have hard drives for storage, these unit dont. Yes, some will have special ASICs for packet forwarding and some will have crypto accelerators.... But if you are talking about under 100Mb/s of throughput your server below can do that and it doesnt need ASICs for forwarding, and if you need some sort of crypto acceleration, you can add one for about $75 to offload much of the crypto calcs. However, thats only useful if you plan to terminate a whack of IPSEC sessions, or use something that does a lot of crypto calcs. (see www.soekris.com) If you take a look around via google on the ipfilter list there are some very large sites using boxes with less power than whats below. The main things that the "hardware" units give you is better software interface and when you look at something like Checkpoint, better tweaked proxy modules (in some cases) and better fall over features. Another big thing these units offer is the potential for formal support. Some organizations do not have the time nor experience to look through and participate on mailing lists. So your organization's concerns below are certainly valid. Ongoing support / care and feeding issues of your firewall (be that FreeBSD or off the shelf appliance) are a critical component in the decision making process. ---Mike At 03:03 PM 05/09/2003 -0500, Redmond Militante wrote: >hi > >i have an ipfilter/ipnat box, that i'm using to protect an apache webserver. >the machine is 4.7-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p3 #1: Mon Aug 11 >18:27:06 CDT >2003. the machine is a dell optiplex gx260 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz >512 mb of ram. it's been doing a fine job. > >i'd like to get extra nics for this machine and stick additional servers, >such as our win2k domain controllers, and a mysql box, possibly more, >behind the firewall/nat. > >i wanted to ask - for a firewall/nat that would potentially be protecting >multiple production machines, is ipfilter's performance comparable to >production firewall appliances and software such as netscreen and symantec >firewall? > >i'm the only unix person where i work, and sometimes it's hard to get >projects green lighted when a) i'm the only one on staff who knows the >technology and b) it probably seems hard to believe to windows admins that >a little pentium3 box with 2 nic cards and hand written firewall rules can >do the same thing as an appliance that some companies are charging tens of >thousands of dollars for. > >i'd like to be able to present a case to my employers - that the >ipfilter/ipnat box that i set up would be able to provide the performance >of commercial firewall solutions, and was wondering if anyone knows of any >benchmarks/reviews/etc. that i can cite. > >any comments welcome > >thanks as always >redmond > >-- >FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Thu Aug 28 12:42:04 CDT 2003 > 2:45PM up 8 days, 1:42, 1 user, load averages: 0.73, 0.23, 0.13 > >"You should, without hesitation, pound your typewriter into a >plowshare, your paper into fertilizer, and enter agriculture." > -- Business Professor, University of Georgia > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 13:39:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C382D16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtai05.cox.net (lakemtai05.cox.net [68.1.17.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B10F43F93 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:39:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.com) Received: from marvin.nv.cox.net ([68.98.162.39]) by lakemtai05.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.04 201-253-122-130-104-20030726) with ESMTP id <20030905203912.NYFY21191.lakemtai05.cox.net@marvin.nv.cox.net> for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:39:12 -0400 Received: from whywire.com (www@ip68-98-162-39.dc.dc.cox.net [68.98.162.39]) by marvin.nv.cox.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85KQJ8w019080 for: 26:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Monah Baki" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:26:19 -0400 Message-Id: <20030905201834.M89294@whywire.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.10 20030731 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.3.129 (mbaki) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: mplayer one last time :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:39:13 -0000 Hi, sorry for being ignorant, but I don't want to switch to another OS if freebsd can do the job. Based on the advices I installed the following on Freebsd 5.1: multimedia/openquicktime multimedia/mplayer www/mplayer-plugin www/mozilla (1.4) www/mplayer-fonts Still can't get mplayer working. I have all the required ports installed based on what the freebsd.com/ports website said, I can't think of anything else, I'm completely lost here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 13:51:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96AE16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A237F44011 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:51:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vNYS-000659-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:51:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vNYR-000651-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:51:39 +0200 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vNXy-0000fh-00 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:51:10 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:51:09 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 89 Message-ID: References: <001301c373be$9e8c9660$0200a8c0@tabby> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: Planning a FreeBSD desktop, basic questions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:51:15 -0000 Michael Vondung wrote: > Hello! Howdy, Michael. > My apologies for the length of this post. Summary: 4.x or 5.x for a > desktop machine, disk partitioning for a workstation, miscellaneous > installation questions. > > Okay, the details! Now that I have my local FreeBSD server (mail/news, > router, firewall) successfully running, I'm ready to tackle my > workstation. This is currently a system with a P4-2.6Ghz, 512MB RAM, an > 80GB EIDE disk, and "the usual" devices (CDR, CD/DVD player, network > adapter and so on). At this time it is running Windows XP, and I plan to > keep it where it is. To avoid having two operating systems on the same > disk, I've purchased an identical HD (WD800BB) where FreeBSD will live on. > Since I don't download movies or obscene amounts of MP3s, this is all a > bit spacey. The XP disk only uses 35 of 80GB and I doubt the FreeBSD one > will even be this "full". How times change. :) Indeed. I'm only 21, and I still remember messing with a diskless Tandy 10 years ago when I was just getting started. Now I have a laptop with a 48G harddisk dual-booting WXP and FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE, and I still have more space than I know what to do with. It's a wonderful feeling! > > 4.8 or 5.1? See below. > My "personal server" happily runs 4.8R and will be updated to 4.9 when > -stable becomes a bit more stable. It consists of older hardware and I > don't plan to upgrade it to 5.x any time soon, if ever. But what do you > recommend for the workstation? It doesn't have dual-processors and all of > its hardware seems to be supported by 4.x. This machine, though, will > eventually get 5.x. I'm wondering if it makes sense to put 4.8 on it now > or if it would be a better choice to just go with 5.1R. My primary concern > here is ease of upgrading. Will it be difficult to go from 4.9 to 5.2, > somewhere down the road? Well, considering that you have the necessary backup media (dvd-r, a bunch of cd-rw, a third hd, or tape), it shouldn't be THAT bad. However, it WILL be more difficult than upgrading from 4.7-RELEASE to 4.8-RELEASE. You generally will want to reformat the drive, or at least wipe out the file system. I personally run 5.1-RELEASE on my IBM Thinkpad A30p. I do so not because I like 5.x better than 4.x, but simply because I couldn't get advanced power management (APM) working under 4.8-RELEASE. I tried to install 4.8 first because I was more familiar with it at the time. 5.x is the future. In that respect, it isn't a bad idea to get used to it now, rather than later, when you suddenly find out that you HAVE to install it for some shiny new piece of hardware or software. Having said the above, I'll say this: 4.8-RELEASE _IS_ more stable than 5.x. I run 4.8-RELEASE on my servers. I run 5.1-RELEASE on my laptop. I can vouch for both version's stability. 5.1-RELEASE is _NOT_ unbearable, but it is also not quite as stable as 4.8-RELEASE. I won't put 5.x on my servers until 5.3 or 5.4, I think, unless KSE support is just super killer stable in 5.2. :) Also, you might have more trouble actually getting FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE installed on newer machines. You sometimes have to set boot variables to keep the kernel from crashing/panicing. In conclusion, 5.1-RELEASE is good enough for a desktop, IMO, but you'd better be prepared for an installation/learning curve over 4.8-RELEASE. On the flip side, you're probably going to have to face that learning curve at some point in the future anyway, so you might as well dive in on your conditions and your timeframe, rather than wait until it's a requirement. HTH Sincerely, -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 13:55:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2343916A4C0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.aynassociates.com (ngbert.aynassociates.com [66.139.79.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 00FC243FB1 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ayn@mail.aynassociates.com) Received: (qmail 18377 invoked by uid 1003); 5 Sep 2003 20:55:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:55:48 -0500 From: Andrew Y Ng To: Matthew Seaman , Brent Bailey , questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030905205548.GA18346@AndrewNg.com> References: <1141.66.63.97.2.1062787167.squirrel@bmyster.com> <20030905200024.GA45683@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030905200024.GA45683@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-GPG-Fingerprint: 46A1 29FF 893A 0381 DC81 1E1E BED8 E882 9BFC 594C X-GPG-Info: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 9BFC594C X-Copyright: (C) 2003 Andrew Y Ng. Forwarding not permitted without prior permission. Subject: Re: rsync install help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:55:52 -0000 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would also look into keychain, this way u won't have to have a passphrase-less ssh key... i rsync a bunch of stuff in cron with ssh and keychain: 25 2 * * * . ~/.ssh-agent-${HOSTNAME} && rsync -av /foo/* bar.foo.= com:foo/ /ayn On 0, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 02:39:27PM -0400, Brent Bailey wrote: > > Im using FBSD 4.8rc1 ..IM getting ready to install rsync to help with > > mirroring to another redundant FBSD box. I was wondering if anyone could > > point me a a good howto for this ? >=20 > Oooh... an easy one. >=20 > # cd /usr/ports/net/rsync > # make install > =20 > > any and all help is greatly appreciated >=20 > Actually, I guess you aren't asking so much about how to install > rsync(1), as how to do the mirroring to the second machine. >=20 > The thing to realise is that rsync on FreeBSD runs over ssh(1) by > default. Presumably you want the rsync job to happen automatically, > which means you need to set up a mechanism by which ssh(1) can > authenticate to the other machine without stopping to input a > password. >=20 > That's explained here: >=20 > http://www.snailbook.com/faq/no-passphrase.auto.html >=20 > Once you've got the authentication bit working, then it's simply a > matter of running something derived from this at regular intervals: >=20 > #!/bin/sh >=20 > remote=3D"sparehost.example.com" >=20 > fslist=3D"/ /usr /home" >=20 > for fs in $fslist ;=20 > do > rsync -azx --delete ${remote}:${fs}/ ${fs}/ > done >=20 > Note that you'll need to run as root on both ends of the connection, > which implies that you'll be allowing root access without a password > from one machine to the other, so you need to pay attention to the > features available in the authorized_keys file to ameliorate the > damage possible should the key be stolen. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Matthew >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks > Savill Way > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow > Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --=20 andrew y ng http://andrewng.com independent computer consultants http://aynassociates.com --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/WPhUvtjogpv8WUwRAgHOAJ0eWiCguPdS57nbdef5wVw4ciH24gCgsfna RN9Id9AIybtYWtaRyOsJE54= =VW9U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 13:57:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE4816A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C9F43FEA for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jleone@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net (adsl-66-124-255-103.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [66.124.255.103]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h85KvZZi018387; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 13:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F58F73D.8040707@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:51:09 -0700 From: James Leone User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Monah Baki References: <20030905201834.M89294@whywire.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer one last time :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:57:46 -0000 Monah Baki wrote: >Hi, sorry for being ignorant, but I don't want to switch to another OS if freebsd can do the job. > >Based on the advices I installed the following on Freebsd 5.1: > >multimedia/openquicktime >multimedia/mplayer >www/mplayer-plugin >www/mozilla (1.4) >www/mplayer-fonts > >Still can't get mplayer working. I have all the required ports installed based on what the >freebsd.com/ports website said, I can't think of anything else, I'm completely lost here. > You are not alone., but my struggles have been in Linux... James Leone From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:21:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DABE16A4C0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BE443FFB for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:21:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.net) Received: from user-119apb3.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.101.99] helo=nebula.whywire.net) by albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19vO15-00029J-00; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:21:15 -0700 Received: from whywire.net (nebula.whywire.net [10.0.3.1]) by nebula.whywire.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h8OLKLQv012964; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Monah Baki" To: James Leone Message-Id: <20030924211528.M97284@whywire.net> In-Reply-To: <3F58F73D.8040707@pacbell.net> References: <20030905201834.M89294@whywire.com> <3F58F73D.8040707@pacbell.net> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.10 20030731 X-OriginatingIP: 68.98.162.39 (mbaki) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer one last time :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:21:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 18:20:21 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:21:19 -0000 I got it running in Linux all I need to is to compile the following: openquicktime-1.0-src.tar win32codecs.tar MPlayer-0.91.tar.bz2 mplayerplug-in-0.80.tar.gz mini.tar.bz2 Blue-1.0.tar qt6dlls.tar.bz2 Those too are the same files that freebsd looks for, but all I get is a white dialog box saying "loading movie", when I click on a movie in quicktime.apple.com. On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:51:09 -0700, James Leone wrote > Monah Baki wrote: > > >Hi, sorry for being ignorant, but I don't want to switch to another OS if freebsd can do the job. > > > >Based on the advices I installed the following on Freebsd 5.1: > > > >multimedia/openquicktime > >multimedia/mplayer > >www/mplayer-plugin > >www/mozilla (1.4) > >www/mplayer-fonts > > > >Still can't get mplayer working. I have all the required ports installed based on what the > >freebsd.com/ports website said, I can't think of anything else, I'm completely lost here. > > > You are not alone., but my struggles have been in Linux... > > James Leone > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:21:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712B216A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.alexssa.net (whitney.alexssa.net [216.114.4.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5003F43FBF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhorvath@frabill.com) Received: from ITADMIN ([66.84.150.146]) by mail.alexssa.net (Merak 6.0.7) with SMTP id EZA74047 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:18:34 -0500 From: "Jim" To: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:18:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: 5.1 & WD 80.0GB SE Drive Geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jhorvath@frabill.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:21:50 -0000 Let me start by qualifying I am extremely new to FreeBSD (I have performed a whopping two installs thus far). I am looking to fire up a machine with a single western digital special edition 80GB IDE drive for simple storage and testing. The BIOS detects the correct geometry for the drive, and both Windows 2000 and Linux (RedHat 9) correctly detect the geometry and install on the drive (each OS installed independently to verify the drive and BIOS were working - this is not a multi-boot setup). FreeBSD version 5.1 however, pops up a message stating the geometry chosen by FreeBSD during installation is incorrect. If I hit "G" when assigning the slices and drop in the correct geometry (as reported by the BIOS), I can assign slices (defaults) and the installation runs through, but it will fail on the next boot (won't even get to the boot manager). If I select "G" when assigning slices, plug in the values, then force a write using the "W" option, I get a warning, then everything installs and fails on reboot. Note: This same machine will accept an installation and run beautifully using a different hard drive (anything I have other than a Western Digital 80GB Special Edition), and I have tried two of the 80GB special edition drives to ensure it is not a mechanical problem with just one of the drives. Both of the special edition drives performed identically (which is to say not at all). Google is mute on the subject. Any help would be appreciated. Jim _______________________________________________________________________ This message was scanned and certified Virus Free by Alexssa | HNet. www.alexssa.net www.hnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:22:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EF416A4E1 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.alexssa.net (whitney.alexssa.net [216.114.4.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2F343FE1 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:22:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhorvath@frabill.com) Received: from ITADMIN ([66.84.150.146]) by mail.alexssa.net (Merak 6.0.7) with SMTP id EZA74047 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:19:24 -0500 From: "Jim" To: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:19:23 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200309052048.58639.dgw@liwest.at> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Strange Mouse issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jhorvath@frabill.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:22:50 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Daniela > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:49 PM > To: Dragoncrest; questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Strange Mouse issue > > > On Friday 05 September 2003 18:18, Dragoncrest wrote: > > Recently I had my BSD install go totally down in flames with a smashing > > finale where it exploded into a billion pieces and wafted off into > > oblivion. (blame the hardware, not me.) Anywho, I've since resurrected > > the box but with one strange little quirk. The mouse freaks out like a > > cat on crack. Any movement causes it to jump to the upper left corner, > > go absolutely apesh** and do some totally weird things like false right > > and left clicks even if all I'm doing is moving the mouse. Reboot > > didn't resolve the issue (had to reboot anyways as part of a kernel > > rebuild) so I am assuming it's not a hardware issue. The mouse works > > fine in the console, but it absolutely will not work under X. Any > > ideas? I've even rebuilt my X config several times. > > I had this too. You needn't kill moused. > There's most likely something wrong with your X11 config file. > Try setting the > device to /dev/sysmouse and the protocol to auto. > If this doesn't work, please post the mouse section of the X11 > config file and > what mouse you have. > > Daniela Try using the script configuration (I forget which option (#3 I think)) for X instead of the gui or ncurses based tools. This fixed the issue on the 5.1 install I was playing with a few days ago (be sure to specify "/dev/sysmouse" and "auto" as Daniela suggested when doing this as well). Also, make sure the mouse isn't running through a KVM to minimize other odd behavior. Jim _______________________________________________________________________ This message was scanned and certified Virus Free by Alexssa | HNet. www.alexssa.net www.hnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:25:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0530216A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405A043FFD for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h85LPqek077819; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:25:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:25:52 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Monah Baki Message-ID: <20030905212552.GC3360@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20030905201834.M89294@whywire.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030905201834.M89294@whywire.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer one last time :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:25:57 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 05), Monah Baki said: > Hi, sorry for being ignorant, but I don't want to switch to another > OS if freebsd can do the job. > > Based on the advices I installed the following on Freebsd 5.1: > > multimedia/openquicktime > multimedia/mplayer > www/mplayer-plugin > www/mozilla (1.4) > www/mplayer-fonts > > Still can't get mplayer working. I have all the required ports > installed based on what the freebsd.com/ports website said, I can't > think of anything else, I'm completely lost here. "Can't get mplayer working" meaning what? Got an error message? -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:26:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4061516A4C0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A01A43FDF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:26:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jleone@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net (adsl-66-124-255-103.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [66.124.255.103]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h85LQGZi020336 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F58FDF6.3030707@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:19:50 -0700 From: James Leone User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Possible errors in FreeBSD 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:26:29 -0000 I have come accross a few possible bugs or errors while using FreeBSD 5.1-Current. I wrote them down and thought I would at least pass on the information per chance it would help someone, etc. I know that some of the errors could just be me, etc. FreeBSD 5.1-Current Possible bugs: 1. When I installed FreeBSD on my machine at work, I had 10 GB of 80 GB available for it on a partitioned hard disk. I set up FreeBSD to only have two slices in the partition, one for swap, which was 300 MB, and the remaining 9700 MB was allocated for the / slice. However, when I was in FreeBSD's Fdisk utility, I could not set up a slice larger than 9499 MB, or else the creation of the slices would fail, and so would the installation. 2. While I am in KDE in FreeBSD, but not in KDE in Linux, if I click on the Floppy Device icon before the floppy is inserted, I will not be able to access a subsequently inserted floppy disk. When I do, I get an error that says: "the device is not configured." 3. When I went to /boot/kernel and typed kldload pcm, it appeared to load up fine, no warning messages, etc. However, when I boot into KDE, KDE will not have any sound. However, if I compile PCM into the kernel and reboot, KDE's sound works just fine. 4. The Real Player port does not use FreeBSD's sound system, even though sound is working in KDE. I have found a few proposed solutions, including one from the Real One Player forum, but none work. The error message says device not found. 5. When configured with the tools available to sysinstall, and additionally when X -configure is run, the XF86Config file does not include the modes lines that I get in SuSE Linux 8.2. I ended up copying over and slightly modifying SuSE's XF86Config file for better screeen resolution. 6. Ymessenger, as installed through the ports, seems to be broken. It will install, but when its run, it says: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 /usr/local/lib/libglib12.so.3: Unidentified symbol "getpwuid_r" 7. Konqueror file permission weirdness I can access all of my FAT32 formatted partitions or disks, but when I use Konqueror to enter the directories within the mount point by clicking on them, I get an error that reads: "You do not have enough permissions to read file:/storage/documents" However, if I merely right click and select open in new window, it opens without a problem, and no error is shown. I do not have this problem in SuSE Linux 8.2. James Leone From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:26:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C0E16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3A543FF9 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:26:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85LQPOg025556; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h85LQPvC025555; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:26:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200309052126.h85LQPvC025555@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:26:24 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Lee_Shackelford@dot.ca.gov" at Sep 05, 2003 09:32:13 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virus scan programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:26:29 -0000 > > Dear freeBSD enthusiast, > Greetings. I am a newcomer to the BSD/Unix world. My place of > employment is a large agency with thousands of client machines. Most of > the clients use Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional operating system. Most > of the servers use either Novell operating system, or I.B.M. Domino > operating system. Wow, you live on the edge [of impending disaster]!! I hope they pay you well. > A very important ritual that each client computer > performs every morning at boot-up time is to run a virus scan application > program. This program is run whether or not the user desires it, because > it runs before the user us granted a log-on screen. Given what you are running, it is a good practice. > In my reading of Unix > and BSD literature, I have found no mention of virus scan programs for > these operating systems. Do such programs not exist? It depends on what you are scanning for. There are scanners that scan Email passing through the Email server of a FreeBSD (or similar) system - and destined for a Microsoft client - used to help protect those Miscrosoft clients. And, there are general spam blockers to help reduce the volume of annoying trash. But, in general, the UNIX systems are naturally quite well protected against Email born attacks of the type that plague Microsoft systems. There is no such thing as sending Emails to one of those machines that will execute some code upon arrival or upon opening the message. I hope that "feature" never comes to any UNIX Email client. It is possible to try and attack a UNIX system, but the technique is quite different than the easy stuff that is done to trash MS systems. On UNIX, there are three general types of attacks. One is to look for things that have been left open. Some systems used to be delivered with accounts that had no password or with a known standard password that the sysadmin was supposed to change upon setting up the system - BEFORE connecting it to the net. Well, too often some of these got left unprotected. Most systems no longer are distributed with open accounts or accounts with known passwords. Either the installation proceedure gives you the opportunity to set up an administrator account with password or you have to know how to get in to the system using direct access to the console. Another method is to try and find passwords to accounts that have been created, especially root accounts. This is done by stealing passwords from careless people, guessing passwords of people who don't have much imagination with creating them and by running cracking routines. If a person can get any access to a system, by getting a legitimate account or guessing the password to a poorly protected account, it is easy to get a copy of the password file. It is a misnomer, because the password file does not contain any passwords. They are in another place that is only root readable and are one-way encripted. BUT, in the "password" file is a list of users which the evil cracker reads up and uses to try and guess passwords. They have programs that are pretty good at guessing if the password is somewhat systematic and related to the users login id or other recorded information. The cracker just keeps trying those password guesses until one works. The best protection is to not put passwords (eg *-out the passwords) on any accounts that have priviledge and to use difficult to guess passwords on regular user accounts. The third method attempts to use weaknesses in the system. These come in a couple of flavors. Some are things like telnet, ftp and Email servers that manage connections to the system. Some of these transmit userids and passwords in clear text and someone on the net can read those. In addition, code errors are occasionally found that can possibly be used to crash a routine in such a way as to be able to execute some other piece of code as root. If someone figures out how to do this, they tend to set themselves up with a way to get regular root access to the machine. Then they can do almost anything they want. This is called making a rootkit. But, though a few of these have been found over the years, they are fairly difficult to create and so they don't happen with great frequency - unlike the MS exploits which seem to come in mass quantities. The main protection against these types of attacks is good system administration. Make sure unneeded paths in to the system are not left open. Make sure connections to the system are legitimate for which utilities such as tcpwrappers and firewalls are a big help. Make sure users use terminal access that encripts sensitive information (such as ssh instead of telnet). There are scanning type routines that are used to detect these sorts of intrusions. They tend to look for things that can run as root and make sure they are legitimate and have not been modified from a standard. The common one is chkrootkit. Many systems are set up to automatically run attack checkers on frequent intervals using the system cron. > Alternately, is the > Unix/BSD approach to this problem in a different philosophical and/or > procedural sphere? If so, could you describe the Unix/BSD approach to > locating and eradicating these invaders of one's hard drive? If the issue > is already explained in either printed literature, or posted at a world > wide web site, it is sufficient to cite the location. Many thanks for your > response. It is a different world than Microsloth, partly due to an inherently more secure system, partly because it isn't as much fun for juvenile delinquents to attack UNIX systems as it is to attack MS systems because they aren't as well known and partly because it is more naturally possible to protect the system using standard UNIX tools. This is not to say that it is not possible to attack a UNIX system or that it never happens. It is possible and does occasionally happen. So, learn as much as you can about system security. Attend a SANS conference. Read handbooks, web articles and published books on the topic. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:29:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA10616A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osprey.kermodei.com (kermodei.com [216.103.110.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED2A843FF3 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:29:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from markd@osprey.kermodei.com) Received: (qmail 88157 invoked by uid 100); 5 Sep 2003 21:29:12 -0000 Date: 5 Sep 2003 21:29:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20030905212912.88156.qmail@osprey.kermodei.com> From: Mark Diekhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.2.1 Subject: configuring a firewire scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:29:13 -0000 I would like to get a firewire scanner working on FreeBSD 5.1. It seems that the approach to this is to use the pt driver via sbp. The scanner is recognized, however sbp gets attached to pass0 (pt is linked in the kernel). I been digging through the code, but have not yet come to an understanding how the scsi driver gets assigned. If anyone can point me I the right direction, or tell me I am just way off base, it would be much appreciated. Verbose kernel output enclosed. -md Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: fwohci0: BUS reset Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: sbp_post_busreset Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=2, CYCLEMASTER mode Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 (me) Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: fwohci0: fw_set_bus_manager: 1->1 (loop=0) Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: firewire0: bus manager 1 (me) Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: send phy_config root_node=1 gap_count=5 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: fwohci0: start AT DMA status=11 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x400 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x400 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x40c Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x40c Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x410 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x410 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: firewire0: New S400 device ID:00206b400e000000 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x400 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x400 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x404 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x404 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x408 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x408 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x40c Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x40c Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x410 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x410 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x414 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x414 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x418 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x418 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x41c Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x41c Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x420 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x420 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x454 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x454 Sep 5 02:55:27 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x458 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x458 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x45c Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x45c Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x460 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x460 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x464 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x464 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x468 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x468 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x424 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x424 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x428 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x428 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x42c Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x42c Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x430 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x430 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x434 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x434 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x438 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x438 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x43c Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x43c Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x440 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x440 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x444 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x444 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x448 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x448 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x44c Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x44c Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x450 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x450 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x46c Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x46c Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x470 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x470 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x474 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x474 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x478 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x478 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x47c Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x47c Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: explore addr=0x480 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: node0: callback addr=0x480 Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: bus_explore done Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: sbp_post_explore (sbp_cold=1) Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: sbp_post_explore: EUI:00206b400e000000 attached Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: target 0 lun 0 found Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: sbp0:0:0 ordered:0 type:6 EUI:00206b400e000000 node:0 speed:2 maxrec:192 new! Sep 5 02:55:28 harrier kernel: sbp0:0:0 'MINOLTA' '' '' Sep 5 02:55:29 harrier kernel: sbp0:0:0 LOGIN Sep 5 02:55:29 harrier kernel: sbp: alloc 1 xfer Sep 5 02:55:29 harrier kernel: fwohci0: maxdesc: 3 Sep 5 02:55:29 harrier kernel: sbp0:0:0 login: len 16, ID 0, cmd 0000fffff0010000, recon_hold 0 Sep 5 02:55:29 harrier kernel: sbp0:0:0 sbp_busy_timeout Sep 5 02:55:29 harrier kernel: sbp0:0:0 sbp_agent_reset Sep 5 02:55:29 harrier kernel: sbp0:0:0 sbp_do_attach Sep 5 02:55:31 harrier kernel: sbp0:0:0 sbp_cam_scan_target Sep 5 02:55:31 harrier kernel: pass0 at sbp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Sep 5 02:55:31 harrier kernel: pass0: Removable Scanner SCSI-2 device Sep 5 02:55:31 harrier kernel: pass0: Serial Number [ Sep 5 02:55:31 harrier kernel: pass0: 50.000MB/s transfers Sep 5 02:55:31 harrier kernel: sbp0:0:0 sbp_cam_scan_lun From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:30:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FF116A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fep2.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB7443FF2 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:29:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pnmurphy@cogeco.ca) Received: from earth.upton.net (d141-18-230.home.cgocable.net [24.141.18.230]) by fep2.cogeco.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C53221268 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:29:46 -0400 From: Paul Murphy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030905172946.58c5d975.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="=.7l6FeBgmws_Fpq" Subject: Re: using FreeBSD plus KDE as a kiosk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:30:00 -0000 --=.7l6FeBgmws_Fpq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 16:42:36 -0500 "Matt Hartzell" wrote: > I am interested in using FreeBSD and KDE as a semi-publicly accessible > internet terminal. I have a web-based application that I would like > to run from this type of setup. > > Does anyone have any experience using a setup like this? Can any one > point me toward relevant documents? > The KDE site (www.kde.org) does have a HOWTO for KDE in kiosk mode. I don't have the url handy but I know I've read it there. -- Cogeco ergo sum --=.7l6FeBgmws_Fpq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/WQBUTv5Mxsi/WPMRArV1AJ9byIBs6FtMn+Bm7LQhVPx1izmnRwCfSCFs 7H0OoAJSBd+6XqAm/cJsQ+U= =onMu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=.7l6FeBgmws_Fpq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:43:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27B616A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BDE43FE9 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:43:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85LhZOg025680; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h85LhZCb025677; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:43:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200309052143.h85LhZCb025677@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: jleone@pacbell.net (James Leone) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:43:34 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <3F58FDF6.3030707@pacbell.net> from "James Leone" at Sep 05, 2003 02:19:50 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible errors in FreeBSD 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:43:38 -0000 > > I have come accross a few possible bugs or errors while using FreeBSD > 5.1-Current. I wrote them down and thought I would at least pass on the > information per chance it would help someone, etc. I know that some of > the errors could just be me, etc. > > FreeBSD 5.1-Current Possible bugs: > > 1. When I installed FreeBSD on my machine at work, I had 10 GB of 80 GB > available for it on a partitioned hard disk. I set up FreeBSD to only > have two slices in the partition, one for swap, which was 300 MB, and > the remaining 9700 MB was allocated for the / slice. However, when I was > in FreeBSD's Fdisk utility, I could not set up a slice larger than 9499 > MB, or else the creation of the slices would fail, and so would the > installation. First of all, your terminology is backwards. The slice is the main unit which is then divided in to partitions for such as root and /usr or whatever. eg you have a 10GB FreeBSD slice which you want to divide in to a 9700 MB root partition and a 300 MB swap partition. Second, this all may be due to different ways of expressing the math of disk units. What actual size in blocks is your 10 GB slice and how big in blocks are your 300 MB and 9700 MG partitions? Also, one virtual cylinder will be eaten for the boot records. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:47:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75CA16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5732344011 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85LlNOg025868; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h85LlMIN025867; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:47:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200309052147.h85LlMIN025867@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: jhorvath@frabill.com Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:47:22 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Jim" at Sep 05, 2003 02:18:32 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.1 & WD 80.0GB SE Drive Geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:47:32 -0000 > > Let me start by qualifying I am extremely new to FreeBSD (I have performed a > whopping two installs thus far). > > I am looking to fire up a machine with a single western digital special > edition 80GB IDE drive for simple storage and testing. > > The BIOS detects the correct geometry for the drive, and both Windows 2000 > and Linux (RedHat 9) correctly detect the geometry and install on the drive > (each OS installed independently to verify the drive and BIOS were working - > this is not a multi-boot setup). > > FreeBSD version 5.1 however, pops up a message stating the geometry chosen > by FreeBSD during installation is incorrect. > > If I hit "G" when assigning the slices and drop in the correct geometry (as > reported by the BIOS), I can assign slices (defaults) and the installation > runs through, but it will fail on the next boot (won't even get to the boot > manager). > > If I select "G" when assigning slices, plug in the values, then force a > write using the "W" option, I get a warning, then everything installs and > fails on reboot. Don't try to change the geometry from what it reports. Leave it as it thinks it is. ////jerry > > Note: This same machine will accept an installation and run beautifully > using a different hard drive (anything I have other than a Western Digital > 80GB Special Edition), and I have tried two of the 80GB special edition > drives to ensure it is not a mechanical problem with just one of the drives. > Both of the special edition drives performed identically (which is to say > not at all). > > Google is mute on the subject. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Jim > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:50:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D353916A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-03.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75CC43FF7 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbstep@tampabay.rr.com) Received: from 2416462hfc204.tampabay.rr.com (2416462hfc204.tampabay.rr.com [24.164.62.204])h85LoJvi015072 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:50:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Stephens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:45:34 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <20030905183913.65234.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030905183913.65234.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309051745.34975.tbstep@tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Re: CUPS, foomatic-rip, 4.8 RELEASE (was: How to get CUPS to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:50:21 -0000 On Friday 05 September 2003 02:39 pm, Mark Terribile wrote: > > ... but here are the ADDITIONAL things I had to > > do to get the cups port/package working properly > > under FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE: (This may not all be > > necessary under 4.8-RELEASE. YMMV.) > > Ah, yes. I think I forgot to add that I had to > change the lpd_program variable in /etc/rc.conf : > > /etc/rc.conf:lpd_program="/usr/local/sbin/cupsd" > # path to lpd, if you want a different one. > I did not have to do that on my 4.8 system. I can get my Epson C82 to work with the stock gimp-print driver, but for some reason I can't get it to work with the ppd-o-matic generated "foomatic-rip" driver combo from linuxprinting.org. From what I understand, foomatic-rip is a perl script, so it should not be platform specific to Linux. While I am somewhat satisfied with the stock gimp-print driver, the foomatic-rip script really cleans up the print much better. I've noticed quite a few kerning problems with TT fonts without it. Does anyone have this specific combination working? If so, where should the foomatic-rip and/or foomatic-gswrapper scripts be placed? Should I set owner to root:daemon? I'll keep trying with it in the meantime. -- Todd Stephens From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 14:57:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAA116A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from babyruth.hotpop.com (babyruth.hotpop.com [204.57.55.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642F443FE3 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 14:57:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com) Received: from hotpop.com (kubrick.hotpop.com [204.57.55.16]) by babyruth.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BF29D21AA1E for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fortytwo. (ip68-109-49-234.lu.dl.cox.net [68.109.49.234]) by smtp-2.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DB811800C2; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:54:50 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Denis Message-Id: <20030905215450.2af48fff.kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com> In-Reply-To: <363006314.20030905194140@mail.ru> References: <363006314.20030905194140@mail.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AVI format in FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:57:16 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:41:40 +0400 Denis wrote: > Hi All!!! > > Does FBSD support AVI format files? > I can't open avi files, but why? > What I can do to play avi? It is not the job of the OS to support media files and the likes. Stuff like this is best left to userland/whatever... In this case there are two good programs aviable for for avi/mpg/asf/whatever. They are Xine and Mplayer. /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer /usr/ports/multimedia/xine Xine is just a basic vid player. Mplayer has 3 parts. mplayer, the command line movie player. gmplayer, a gtk frontend to mplayer. mencoder, a video encoder. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:03:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9627C16A4BF; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (12-233-57-131.client.attbi.com [12.233.57.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804BD44013; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85M3dG7020167; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:03:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h85M3bxF020166; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:03:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:03:37 -0700 From: David Schultz To: David Gilbert Message-ID: <20030905220337.GA20142@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: David Gilbert , Poul-Henning Kamp , Petri Helenius , Max Clark , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3F5647F3.5080502@he.iki.fi> <64330.1062619621@critter.freebsd.dk> <16216.36410.889440.499438@canoe.velocet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16216.36410.889440.499438@canoe.velocet.net> cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Petri Helenius cc: Max Clark cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 20TB Storage System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:03:49 -0000 On Fri, Sep 05, 2003, David Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> "Poul-Henning" == Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > > Poul-Henning> In message <3F5647F3.5080502@he.iki.fi>, Petri Helenius > Poul-Henning> writes: > >> fsck problem should be gone with less inodes and less blocks since > >> if I read the code correctly, memory is consumed according to used > >> inodes and blocks so having like 20000 inodes and 64k blocks should > >> allow you to build 5-20T filesystem and actually fsck them. > > Poul-Henning> I am not sure I would advocate 64k blocks yet. > > Poul-Henning> I tend to stick with 32k block, 4k fragment myself. > > Poul-Henning> This is a problem which is in the cross-hairs for 6.x > > That reminds me... has anyone thought of designing the system to have > more than 8 frags per block? Increasingly, for large file > performance, we're pushing up the block size dramatically. This is > with the assumption that large disks will contain large files. > > ... but I havn't seem that, myself. Large arrays that we run tend to > have multiple system images (for diskless or semi-diskless operation) > and many more thousands of users ... all with their usual complement > of small files. > > It strikes me that driving the block size up (as far as 1M) and having > a 256 (or so) fragments might become appropriate. > > We probably also need to address disks with larger block sizes soon, > but that's another issue alltogether. To that end, UFS2 is supposed to be able to support ``jumbo blocks''. The code for that isn't in the tree, but I presume Kirk is working on it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:07:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B1816A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB7843F85 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:07:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbstep@tampabay.rr.com) Received: from 2416462hfc204.tampabay.rr.com (2416462hfc204.tampabay.rr.com [24.164.62.204])h85M7NS6005780; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:07:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Stephens To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:02:38 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <20030902083534.C61B216A513@hub.freebsd.org> <20030902170641.59003.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309051802.38853.tbstep@tampabay.rr.com> cc: jesse@wingnet.net Subject: Re: CUPS, foomatic-rip, 4.8 RELEASE (was: How to get CUPS to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:07:26 -0000 On Friday 05 September 2003 09:59 am, Jesse Guardiani wrote: > I hope the above information is useful to someone. It MAY NOT > be 100% complete. I was very tired when I took the above notes. > Please write me and let me know if you had to add anything or > do anything different from the above. But Note: I do NOT want > to know what you had to do to install foomatic-rip, hpijs, or > any other printer-specific software properly. I'm only interested > in cups configuration and setup info. Ahem. Sorry, I know you don't want to hear this question, but what did you do to get the foomatic part working? I placed it according to linuxprinting.org, but I am thinking that maybe the FreeBSD port of CUPS is looking for it elsewhere. I will go through the process again using the exact steps you outlined. I think there are a few directories that I did not create. I'll let you know how this goes. -- Todd Stephens From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:08:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9AD16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD2F43FE5 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:08:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h85M8Muo060879; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:08:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from kargl@localhost)h85M8MbA060878; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:08:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven G. Kargl" Message-Id: <200309052208.h85M8MbA060878@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20030905200737.GB45683@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> To: Matthew Seaman Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:08:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL99f (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAM, X11, and su as a normal user? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:08:24 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:18:40PM -0700, Steven G. Kargl wrote: > > After a few hours of frustation, it's time to ask a question. > > > > I have 2 accounts on my machine. I use startx to start > > X11 as user kargl. If I then su to user sgk, I cannot > > fire up X clients. For example, > > > > troutmask:kargl[202] su sgk > > Password: > > troutmask:sgk[201] gnuplot > > Terminal type set to 'x11' > > gnuplot> plot sin(x) > > gnuplot> > > gnuplot: unable to open display 'troutmask.apl.washington.edu:0' > > gnuplot: X11 aborted. > > > > I've tried using "xhost sgk@", but this doesn't work. > > The only thing I can think of that may need to be > > configured is PAM, but the documentation is rather > > incomplete. So, anyone know how to setup su to > > permit sgk to use X clients? > > As user kargl: > > % xauth nextract /tmp/foo ${DISPLAY} > > As user sgk: > > % xauth nmerge /tmp/foo > > and remember to delete /tmp/foo as soon as possible. > I still get the above results with gnuplot after issuing the two xauth commands you give above. If I use "xauth list" with as both users the entry for $DISPLAY shows the same key. troutmask:sgk[246] xauth list troutmask.apl.washington.edu:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 some_long_string troutmask:kargl[245] xauth list troutmask.apl.washington.edu:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 some_long_string I suspect that I need to add something to /etc/pam.d/{su,system,xserver}, but I can't locate adequate documentation. -- Steve http://troutmask.apl.washington.edu/~kargl/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:08:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A971016A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt19.cluster1.charter.net (remt19.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2824400B for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:08:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from [66.168.145.25] (HELO moe) by remt19.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 148205127 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:08:48 -0400 From: "Charles Howse" To: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:08:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c373fa$43007eb0$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: FBSD equivalent to Linux cp -u X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:08:49 -0000 Hi, I have read man cp, and I don't see a way to copy source file to destination file *only* if source file is newer than destination file. In Linux, I could do cp -u. Is there another utility that can pull this off? Thanks, Charles Got a computer with idle CPU time? Join SETI@home and help make history! http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:09:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7732D16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.alexssa.net (whitney.alexssa.net [216.114.4.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC0043FF9 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:09:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhorvath@frabill.com) Received: from ITADMIN ([66.84.150.146]) by mail.alexssa.net (Merak 6.0.7) with SMTP id EZA74047; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:09:32 -0500 From: "Jim" To: "Jerry McAllister" Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:09:29 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200309052147.h85LlMIN025867@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Importance: Normal cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: 5.1 & WD 80.0GB SE Drive Geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jhorvath@frabill.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:09:46 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu] > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:47 PM > To: jhorvath@frabill.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: 5.1 & WD 80.0GB SE Drive Geometry > > > > > > Let me start by qualifying I am extremely new to FreeBSD (I > have performed a > > whopping two installs thus far). > > > > I am looking to fire up a machine with a single western digital special > > edition 80GB IDE drive for simple storage and testing. > > > > The BIOS detects the correct geometry for the drive, and both > Windows 2000 > > and Linux (RedHat 9) correctly detect the geometry and install > on the drive > > (each OS installed independently to verify the drive and BIOS > were working - > > this is not a multi-boot setup). > > > > FreeBSD version 5.1 however, pops up a message stating the > geometry chosen > > by FreeBSD during installation is incorrect. > > > > If I hit "G" when assigning the slices and drop in the correct > geometry (as > > reported by the BIOS), I can assign slices (defaults) and the > installation > > runs through, but it will fail on the next boot (won't even get > to the boot > > manager). > > > > If I select "G" when assigning slices, plug in the values, then force a > > write using the "W" option, I get a warning, then everything > installs and > > fails on reboot. > > Don't try to change the geometry from what it reports. > Leave it as it thinks it is. > > ////jerry > Same deal. Installation runs through fine, does the post-install, finishes nicely, and reboots to a void (system runs POST, shows the devices, then hangs indefinitely (pre-os startup)). Jim > > > > Note: This same machine will accept an installation and run beautifully > > using a different hard drive (anything I have other than a > Western Digital > > 80GB Special Edition), and I have tried two of the 80GB special edition > > drives to ensure it is not a mechanical problem with just one > of the drives. > > Both of the special edition drives performed identically (which > is to say > > not at all). > > > > Google is mute on the subject. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > This message was scanned and certified Virus Free by Alexssa | HNet. > www.alexssa.net > www.hnet.net _______________________________________________________________________ This message was scanned and certified Virus Free by Alexssa | HNet. www.alexssa.net www.hnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:13:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9AC16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from babyruth.hotpop.com (babyruth.hotpop.com [204.57.55.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC3A43F85 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:13:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com) Received: from hotpop.com (kubrick.hotpop.com [204.57.55.16]) by babyruth.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DDDA221DD4B for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:13:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fortytwo. (ip68-109-49-234.lu.dl.cox.net [68.109.49.234]) by smtp-3.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C8BCA70F94D; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:10:36 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: "Monah Baki" Message-Id: <20030905221036.55d0753d.kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com> In-Reply-To: <20030905201834.M89294@whywire.com> References: <20030905201834.M89294@whywire.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer one last time :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:13:15 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:26:19 -0400 "Monah Baki" wrote: > > Hi, sorry for being ignorant, but I don't want to switch to another OS if > freebsd can do the job. > > Based on the advices I installed the following on Freebsd 5.1: > > multimedia/openquicktime > multimedia/mplayer > www/mplayer-plugin > www/mozilla (1.4) > www/mplayer-fonts > > Still can't get mplayer working. I have all the required ports installed based > on what the freebsd.com/ports website said, I can't think of anything else, > I'm completely lost here. More info about the problem would be useful. Afaik openquicktime is not a useful port. What you need is mplayer, the mplayer-plugin, and the win32 codecs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:17:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670F416A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9DE43FD7 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:17:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vOtf-0006nq-00 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:17:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vOte-0006ni-00 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:17:38 +0200 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vOtC-0008Pi-00 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:17:10 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:17:09 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <20030905183913.65234.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> <20030905134735.I55278@wonkity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: CUPS, foomatic-rip, 4.8 RELEASE (was: How to get CUPS to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:17:14 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Mark Terribile wrote: > >> > ... but here are the ADDITIONAL things I had to >> > do to get the cups port/package working properly >> > under FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE: (This may not all be >> > necessary under 4.8-RELEASE. YMMV.) >> >> Ah, yes. I think I forgot to add that I had to >> change the lpd_program variable in /etc/rc.conf : >> >> /etc/rc.conf:lpd_program="/usr/local/sbin/cupsd" >> # path to lpd, if you want a different one. >> >> This is a 4.6 system upgraded to 4.7 . > > That is not necessary. The steps you documented earlier--about having > to manually create a bunch of directories before CUPS would work--looked > like just what I found on a 4.8 system earlier this week. I think you're confusing my reply to Mr. Terribile's text with Mr. Terribile's text itself. I wrote the stuff about the directories. (Hey, if I'm gonna take the time to write it, I might as well not let anyone else unknowingly take the credit! :-] Me! Me! Me! ) > > Anyway, the CUPS startup in /usr/local/etc/rc.d will run the CUPS > daemon. It isn't necessary to replace lpd, which will run at the same > time. That is my experience also. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:20:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7DB16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt23.cluster1.charter.net (remt23.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD04A44013 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:20:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsadams1@charter.net) Received: from [68.118.246.90] (HELO charter.net) by remt23.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 148151689 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:20:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3F590B9F.4000608@charter.net> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:18:07 -0400 From: Brian Scott Adams User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Keyboard lockup during install problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:20:18 -0000 Hello, I'm having a problem installing the latest FreeBSD version on an HP Pavilion 9795c machine. I've downloaded the ISO images and wrote them onto a CD, then I attempted to install it. It'll start to install, but it seems to lockup my keyboard. I currently have a couple of Linux and a couple of Microsoft Windows operating systems already installed, and I would like to add FreeBSD to my system as well. Is there anything else that I can do to install it without this problem? Thanks, Scott Adams (bsadams1@charter.net) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:29:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CEF16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9DD43FE9 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:29:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vP5o-0006ty-00 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:30:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vOxZ-0006pr-00 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:21:41 +0200 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vOx7-00005G-00 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:21:13 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:21:12 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <20030902083534.C61B216A513@hub.freebsd.org> <20030902170641.59003.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> <200309051802.38853.tbstep@tampabay.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: CUPS, foomatic-rip, 4.8 RELEASE (was: How to get CUPS to work) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:29:47 -0000 Todd Stephens wrote: > On Friday 05 September 2003 09:59 am, Jesse Guardiani wrote: > >> I hope the above information is useful to someone. It MAY NOT >> be 100% complete. I was very tired when I took the above notes. >> Please write me and let me know if you had to add anything or >> do anything different from the above. But Note: I do NOT want >> to know what you had to do to install foomatic-rip, hpijs, or >> any other printer-specific software properly. I'm only interested >> in cups configuration and setup info. > > Ahem. Sorry, I know you don't want to hear this question, but what did > you do to get the foomatic part working? I placed it according to > linuxprinting.org, but I am thinking that maybe the FreeBSD port of > CUPS is looking for it elsewhere. I will go through the process again > using the exact steps you outlined. I think there are a few > directories that I did not create. I'll let you know how this goes. I'll be happy to offer whatever help I can, but it'd probably be quicker for you to practice the debugging steps I mentioned in the original post. After all, that's how I mucked my way through it... Let me know if you get it working, and let me know if you had to do anything different (with regard to CUPS, of coarse!). If you get stuck, let me know. I'll try to prod you in the right direction. Sincerely, -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:30:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DAD16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE2D43FEC for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jleone@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net (adsl-66-124-255-103.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [66.124.255.103]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h85MUHpW010361; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F590CED.6010802@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:23:41 -0700 From: James Leone User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jhorvath@frabill.com References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.1 & WD 80.0GB SE Drive Geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:30:22 -0000 Jim wrote: >Let me start by qualifying I am extremely new to FreeBSD (I have performed a >whopping two installs thus far). > >I am looking to fire up a machine with a single western digital special >edition 80GB IDE drive for simple storage and testing. > >The BIOS detects the correct geometry for the drive, and both Windows 2000 >and Linux (RedHat 9) correctly detect the geometry and install on the drive >(each OS installed independently to verify the drive and BIOS were working - >this is not a multi-boot setup). > >FreeBSD version 5.1 however, pops up a message stating the geometry chosen >by FreeBSD during installation is incorrect. > >If I hit "G" when assigning the slices and drop in the correct geometry (as >reported by the BIOS), I can assign slices (defaults) and the installation >runs through, but it will fail on the next boot (won't even get to the boot >manager). > >If I select "G" when assigning slices, plug in the values, then force a >write using the "W" option, I get a warning, then everything installs and >fails on reboot. > >Note: This same machine will accept an installation and run beautifully >using a different hard drive (anything I have other than a Western Digital >80GB Special Edition), and I have tried two of the 80GB special edition >drives to ensure it is not a mechanical problem with just one of the drives. >Both of the special edition drives performed identically (which is to say >not at all). > >Google is mute on the subject. > >Any help would be appreciated. > >Jim > All I can say is that the same thing happened to me. James Leone > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:34:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8010816A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com (ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com [65.24.7.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732354400D for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:34:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (dhcp065-031-041-029.woh.rr.com [65.31.41.29]) by ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with SMTP id h85MYG0n012182 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000501c373fc$2dfb69b0$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "dave" To: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:22:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: customizing the apache2 port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:34:18 -0000 Hello, I'd like to customize the apache2 port install. I'd like to use my own layout file and to add some additional compile-time options. I've catted my custom layout file on to the end of work/httpd-2.0.47/config.layout and changed the layout option in the Makefile to reflect that change and added in my options. It works fine, installs, but puts the binaries in /usr/local/sbin not where i want them to go, and when i try to remove the port the removal process is looking in the default locations for files, which of course are not there. IF anyone has done this please let me know. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:39:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2BA16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt23.cluster1.charter.net (remt23.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7EC43FE0 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:39:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sirenscall@charter.net) Received: from [66.188.196.197] (HELO CR1) by remt23.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 148166292 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:39:57 -0400 From: "Christopher W Rueber" To: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:40:01 -0500 Message-ID: <004801c373fe$a4afd4e0$c5c4bc42@CR1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 Importance: Normal Subject: Help!!! Problems with dhclient.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:39:58 -0000 I have looked through all the help files that I can find, handbook and such (along with the Complete FreeBSD book).. And I just can't seem to solve this problem: I am setting up high speed internet for a Cable Modem. My cable provider uses a DHCP setup, thus I have to use dhclient. I am running an NC100 ethernet card (using the tulip.o driver) - That seems to be working fine (As it will obtain the DHCP information from my router when it is setup). However, whenever I set my router to bridging (as I want to be able to connect to the box when I'm away from home, and NATting doesn't work real well for that), the box can't seem to use DHCP to get it's information. My ISP provisions for 3 IP addresses, and I'm only using one other (and I have checked to make sure that any previous are released from the modem itself). I'm pulling an IP of 0.0.0.0 when I use ifconfig. I've also went through my rc.conf file to make sure everything is setup.it seems okay. Any ideas? Am I missing something obvious? Thanks in advance for the help! (Please send email directly back to this email address if any other information is needed, or you have a suggestion!) Replyto:sirenscall@charter.net Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:46:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB15E16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66EA43FF2 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:46:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from damian@sentex.net) Received: from pegmatite.sentex.ca (pegmatite.sentex.ca [192.168.42.92]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h85MkfFa018698; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:46:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from damian@sentex.net) Received: by pegmatite.sentex.ca (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 140B91714D; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:46:36 -0400 From: Damian Gerow To: Christopher W Rueber Message-ID: <20030905224636.GU769@sentex.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Key-Id: 0xB841F142 X-GPG-Fingerprint: C7C1 E1D1 EC06 7C86 AF7C 57E6 173D 9CF6 B841 F142 X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Virus-Scanned: By Sentex Communications (lava/20020517) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help!!! Problems with dhclient.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:46:44 -0000 Thus spake Christopher W Rueber (sirenscall@charter.net) [05/09/03 18:40]: > I have looked through all the help files that I can find, handbook and > such (along with the Complete FreeBSD book).. And I just can't seem to > solve this problem: > > I am setting up high speed internet for a Cable Modem. My cable provider > uses a DHCP setup, thus I have to use dhclient. I am running an NC100 > ethernet card (using the tulip.o driver) - That seems to be working fine ^^^^^^^ Really? I suspect you may not be using FreeBSD. Try a Linux group instead? (If you're /really/ on FreeBSD, I think you may want the 'dc' driver...) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 15:58:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A9F16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E4943FE9 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:58:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jleone@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net (adsl-66-124-255-103.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [66.124.255.103]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h85MwhpW026521; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F591397.7040606@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:52:07 -0700 From: James Leone User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <200309052143.h85LhZCb025677@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible errors in FreeBSD 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:58:47 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: >>I have come accross a few possible bugs or errors while using FreeBSD >>5.1-Current. I wrote them down and thought I would at least pass on the >>information per chance it would help someone, etc. I know that some of >>the errors could just be me, etc. >> >>FreeBSD 5.1-Current Possible bugs: >> >>1. When I installed FreeBSD on my machine at work, I had 10 GB of 80 GB >>available for it on a partitioned hard disk. I set up FreeBSD to only >>have two slices in the partition, one for swap, which was 300 MB, and >>the remaining 9700 MB was allocated for the / slice. However, when I was >>in FreeBSD's Fdisk utility, I could not set up a slice larger than 9499 >>MB, or else the creation of the slices would fail, and so would the >>installation. >> >> > >First of all, your terminology is backwards. The slice is the >main unit which is then divided in to partitions for such as root >and /usr or whatever. eg you have a 10GB FreeBSD slice which >you want to divide in to a 9700 MB root partition and a 300 MB swap >partition. > >Second, this all may be due to different ways of expressing the >math of disk units. What actual size in blocks is your 10 GB >slice and how big in blocks are your 300 MB and 9700 MG partitions? >Also, one virtual cylinder will be eaten for the boot records. > >////jerry > I don't know the answer to that question. If there is a problem, I hope it will be fixed. James Leone From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 16:02:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB9416A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt26.cluster1.charter.net (remt26.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631DC43F75 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:02:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sirenscall@charter.net) Received: from [66.188.196.197] (HELO CR1) by remt26.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 145114491 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:02:27 -0400 From: "Christopher W Rueber" To: Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:02:32 -0500 Message-ID: <004a01c37401$c9cbecc0$c5c4bc42@CR1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20030905224636.GU769@sentex.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Help!!! Problems with dhclient.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 23:02:30 -0000 Sorry for my lack of knowledge.. But.. I'm pretty new to FreeBSD I'll admit, but I'm definitely using it. Anyways, the last LINUX Distro that I installed (Slackware and Red Hat both used that, I believe), used tulip.o, so I assumed FreeBSD did as well, since it actually didn't let me tell it which driver to use. The device is working perfectly. OR seems to be anyways, based on the fact that I can see it, along with the correct MAC ID for it in an ifconfig for dc0. Is 'dc' what you're talking about in this case? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Damian Gerow Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:47 PM To: Christopher W Rueber Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help!!! Problems with dhclient.... Thus spake Christopher W Rueber (sirenscall@charter.net) [05/09/03 18:40]: > I have looked through all the help files that I can find, handbook and > such (along with the Complete FreeBSD book).. And I just can't seem to > solve this problem: > > I am setting up high speed internet for a Cable Modem. My cable provider > uses a DHCP setup, thus I have to use dhclient. I am running an NC100 > ethernet card (using the tulip.o driver) - That seems to be working fine ^^^^^^^ Really? I suspect you may not be using FreeBSD. Try a Linux group instead? (If you're /really/ on FreeBSD, I think you may want the 'dc' driver...) _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 16:03:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDC616A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay2-f23.bay2.hotmail.com [65.54.247.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB53543FF5 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:03:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from missive@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:03:47 -0700 Received: from 208.186.59.185 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 23:03:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.186.59.185] X-Originating-Email: [missive@hotmail.com] From: "Lee Harr" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 23:03:47 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2003 23:03:47.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[F67751B0:01C37401] Subject: Re: mplayer one last time :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 23:03:48 -0000 >Hi, sorry for being ignorant, but I don't want to switch >to another OS if freebsd can do the job. > >Based on the advices I installed the following >on Freebsd 5.1: > >multimedia/openquicktime >multimedia/mplayer >www/mplayer-plugin >www/mozilla (1.4) >www/mplayer-fonts > >Still can't get mplayer working. I have all the required >ports installed based on what the >freebsd.com/ports website said, I can't think of >anything else, I'm completely lost here. > Hi; I just got mplayer working very well yesterday... I am really impressed with what is working now! On 4.8-STABLE I had to recompile my kernel with: options CPU_ENABLE_SSE options CPU_ATHLON_SSE_HACK I am not sure if there is something like this on -CURRENT, but it might be worth looking through the LINT-like file there. (I don't remember what it is called, but since you are running current you will know that :o) _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 16:25:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D778D16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1392D43FCB for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:25:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-102-154.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.102.154] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #4) id 19vPxG-0005cf-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:25:26 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16217.7013.774510.925991@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:25:25 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200309051918.h85JIe20059400@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <200309051918.h85JIe20059400@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> X-Mailer: VM 7.11 under 21.5 (beta13) "cauliflower" XEmacs Lucid Subject: PAM, X11, and su as a normal user? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 23:25:28 -0000 Steven G. Kargl writes: > I've tried using "xhost sgk@", but this doesn't work. > The only thing I can think of that may need to be > configured is PAM, but the documentation is rather > incomplete. So, anyone know how to setup su to > permit sgk to use X clients? "xhost +inet:" works for me. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 16:52:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A3F16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA7943FA3 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:52:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h85Nq9Og026925; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:52:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h85Nq9DF026924; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:52:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200309052352.h85Nq9DF026924@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: jleone@pacbell.net (James Leone) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:52:08 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <3F591397.7040606@pacbell.net> from "James Leone" at Sep 05, 2003 03:52:07 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible errors in FreeBSD 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 23:52:12 -0000 > > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > >>I have come accross a few possible bugs or errors while using FreeBSD > >>5.1-Current. I wrote them down and thought I would at least pass on the > >>information per chance it would help someone, etc. I know that some of > >>the errors could just be me, etc. > >> > >>FreeBSD 5.1-Current Possible bugs: > >> > >>1. When I installed FreeBSD on my machine at work, I had 10 GB of 80 GB > >>available for it on a partitioned hard disk. I set up FreeBSD to only > >>have two slices in the partition, one for swap, which was 300 MB, and > >>the remaining 9700 MB was allocated for the / slice. However, when I was > >>in FreeBSD's Fdisk utility, I could not set up a slice larger than 9499 > >>MB, or else the creation of the slices would fail, and so would the > >>installation. > >> > >> > > > >First of all, your terminology is backwards. The slice is the > >main unit which is then divided in to partitions for such as root > >and /usr or whatever. eg you have a 10GB FreeBSD slice which > >you want to divide in to a 9700 MB root partition and a 300 MB swap > >partition. > > > >Second, this all may be due to different ways of expressing the > >math of disk units. What actual size in blocks is your 10 GB > >slice and how big in blocks are your 300 MB and 9700 MG partitions? > >Also, one virtual cylinder will be eaten for the boot records. > > > >////jerry > > > I don't know the answer to that question. If there is a problem, I hope > it will be fixed. Just look at the outputs from fdisk and disklabel and they will tell you. Presuming your disk is device da0 (first SCSI disk), type: fdisk -s da0 lists the number of blocks/sectors in each slice. Then disklabel -r da0s1 lists the number of blocks for each partition in slice 1 of that disk. If the disk is other than the first SCSI disk you will need to use the appripriate device, such as da1 for the second SCSI disk or wd0 or whatever for IDE (I don't have any IDE disks to look at right now). If that 10 GB slice is not the first slice you will need to use a different number with the 's' in the disklabel command - such as da1s3 would be the second SCSI disk drive and the third slice on that disk. Then realize that blocks/sectors are 512 bytes and Megabytes are 1048576 bytes or 2048 blocks (not 1,000,000 bytes) GigaBytes are 1073741824 bytes or 2097152 blocks (not 1,000,000,000 bytes). BUT NOTE that manufacturers rate their drives using 1,000,000 bytes as a Megabyte and 1,000,000,000 bytes as a Gigabyte so there is quite a difference between what the vendor claims and what the system claims the disk will hold. ////jerry > > > James Leone > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 17:02:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 2883E16A4C0; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20030906000201.2883E16A4C0@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:02:01 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2003/03/09 22:09:31 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? =================================================== Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.4 2003/03/09 22:09:31 grog Exp $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 17:02:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 2E53116A4C1; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20030906000201.2E53116A4C1@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:02:01 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 18:35:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A4216A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.monmouth.com (smtp.monmouth.com [209.191.58.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D8143F3F for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 18:35:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from markov@monmouth.com) Received: from happy.markov.net (bg-tc-ppp1551.monmouth.com [209.191.34.168]) by smtp.monmouth.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h861YsLb050972 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:35:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:34:45 -0400 From: "Vlad D. Markov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030905213445.437560cd.markov@monmouth.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: diablo-jdk1.3.1 oesn't work for me. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 01:35:11 -0000 Looks like this works for others, any clue to my problem appreciated? I downloaded and installed diablo-jdk1.3.1. I try to run the jfc demo Notepad (java -jar Notepad.jar) and get the following results: SIGILL 4* illegal instruction Full thread dump Classic VM (diablo-1.3.1-0, green threads): "AWT-Motif" (TID:0x28ec5d60, sys_thread_t:0x83c6880, state:MW) prio=6 at sun.awt.motif.MToolkit.run(Native Method) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484) "SunToolkit.PostEventQueue-0" (TID:0x28ec58a8, sys_thread_t:0x8388c80, state:CW) prio=6 at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:420) at sun.awt.PostEventQueue.run(SunToolkit.java:491) "AWT-EventQueue-0" (TID:0x28ec58d0, sys_thread_t:0x8388a80, state:CW) prio=6 at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:420) at java.awt.EventQueue.getNextEvent(EventQueue.java:260) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:106) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:98) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:93) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:85) "Finalizer" (TID:0x28e9d528, sys_thread_t:0x80d4080, state:CW) prio=8 at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:108) at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:123) at java.lang.ref.Finalizer$FinalizerThread.run(Finalizer.java:162) "Reference Handler" (TID:0x28e9d300, sys_thread_t:0x8096480, state:CW) prio=10 at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:420) at java.lang.ref.Reference$ReferenceHandler.run(Reference.java:110) "Signal dispatcher" (TID:0x28e9d330, sys_thread_t:0x8096280, state:CW) prio=5 "main" (TID:0x28e9d1b0, sys_thread_t:0x8053080, state:R) prio=5 at sun.awt.motif.MWindowPeer.create(Native Method) at sun.awt.motif.MComponentPeer.init(MComponentPeer.java:169) at sun.awt.motif.MWindowPeer.init(MWindowPeer.java:86) at sun.awt.motif.MFramePeer.(MFramePeer.java:53) at sun.awt.motif.MToolkit.createFrame(MToolkit.java:138) at java.awt.Frame.addNotify(Frame.java:353) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.BumpBuffer.createComponent(MetalBumps.java:209) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.BumpBuffer.(MetalBumps.java:147) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalBumps.createBuffer(MetalBumps.java:61) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalBumps.setBumpColors(MetalBumps.java:96) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalBumps.(MetalBumps.java:53) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalScrollBarUI.installDefaults(MetalScrollBarUI.java:80) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicScrollBarUI.installUI(BasicScrollBarUI.java:98) at javax.swing.JComponent.setUI(JComponent.java:322) at javax.swing.JScrollBar.updateUI(JScrollBar.java:189) at javax.swing.JScrollBar.(JScrollBar.java:140) at javax.swing.JScrollBar.(JScrollBar.java:155) at javax.swing.JScrollPane$ScrollBar.(JScrollPane.java:635) at javax.swing.JScrollPane.createVerticalScrollBar(JScrollPane.java:780) at javax.swing.JScrollPane.(JScrollPane.java:242) at javax.swing.JScrollPane.(JScrollPane.java:290) at Notepad.(Notepad.java:95) at Notepad.main(Notepad.java:128) Monitor Cache Dump: java.lang.Class@28EAD180/28F0A5A0: owner "main" (0x8053080) 1 entry Waiting to enter: "AWT-Motif" (0x83c6880) sun.awt.PostEventQueue@28EC58A8/28FD2C08: Waiting to be notified: "SunToolkit.PostEventQueue-0" (0x8388c80) java.awt.EventQueue@28EC56B8/28FD2380: Waiting to be notified: "AWT-EventQueue-0" (0x8388a80) java.lang.ref.Reference$Lock@28E9D310/28ED2F98: Waiting to be notified: "Reference Handler" (0x8096480) java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock@28E9D540/28ED3478: Waiting to be notified: "Finalizer" (0x80d4080) java.awt.Component$AWTTreeLock@28EA2800/28EF7608: owner "main" (0x8053080) 1 entry Registered Monitor Dump: utf8 hash table: JNI pinning lock: JNI global reference lock: BinClass lock: Class linking lock: System class loader lock: Code rewrite lock: Heap lock: Monitor cache lock: owner "main" (0x8053080) 1 entry Dynamic loading lock: Monitor IO lock: User signal monitor: Waiting to be notified: "Signal dispatcher" (0x8096280) Child death monitor: I/O monitor: Alarm monitor: Waiting to be notified: (0x8053280) Thread queue lock: owner "main" (0x8053080) 1 entry Monitor registry: owner "main" (0x8053080) 1 entry SIGABRT 6* abort (generated by abort(3) routine) Full thread dump Classic VM (diablo-1.3.1-0, green threads): "AWT-Motif" (TID:0x28ec5d60, sys_thread_t:0x83c6880, state:MW) prio=6 at sun.awt.motif.MToolkit.run(Native Method) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484) "SunToolkit.PostEventQueue-0" (TID:0x28ec58a8, sys_thread_t:0x8388c80, state:CW) prio=6 at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:420) at sun.awt.PostEventQueue.run(SunToolkit.java:491) "AWT-EventQueue-0" (TID:0x28ec58d0, sys_thread_t:0x8388a80, state:CW) prio=6 at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:420) at java.awt.EventQueue.getNextEvent(EventQueue.java:260) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:106) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:98) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:93) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:85) "Finalizer" (TID:0x28e9d528, sys_thread_t:0x80d4080, state:CW) prio=8 at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:108) at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(ReferenceQueue.java:123) at java.lang.ref.Finalizer$FinalizerThread.run(Finalizer.java:162) "Reference Handler" (TID:0x28e9d300, sys_thread_t:0x8096480, state:CW) prio=10 at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:420) at java.lang.ref.Reference$ReferenceHandler.run(Reference.java:110) "Signal dispatcher" (TID:0x28e9d330, sys_thread_t:0x8096280, state:CW) prio=5 "main" (TID:0x28e9d1b0, sys_thread_t:0x8053080, state:R) prio=5 at sun.awt.motif.MWindowPeer.create(Native Method) at sun.awt.motif.MComponentPeer.init(MComponentPeer.java:169) at sun.awt.motif.MWindowPeer.init(MWindowPeer.java:86) at sun.awt.motif.MFramePeer.(MFramePeer.java:53) at sun.awt.motif.MToolkit.createFrame(MToolkit.java:138) at java.awt.Frame.addNotify(Frame.java:353) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.BumpBuffer.createComponent(MetalBumps.java:209) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.BumpBuffer.(MetalBumps.java:147) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalBumps.createBuffer(MetalBumps.java:61) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalBumps.setBumpColors(MetalBumps.java:96) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalBumps.(MetalBumps.java:53) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalScrollBarUI.installDefaults(MetalScrollBarUI.java:80) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicScrollBarUI.installUI(BasicScrollBarUI.java:98) at javax.swing.JComponent.setUI(JComponent.java:322) at javax.swing.JScrollBar.updateUI(JScrollBar.java:189) at javax.swing.JScrollBar.(JScrollBar.java:140) at javax.swing.JScrollBar.(JScrollBar.java:155) at javax.swing.JScrollPane$ScrollBar.(JScrollPane.java:635) at javax.swing.JScrollPane.createVerticalScrollBar(JScrollPane.java:780) at javax.swing.JScrollPane.(JScrollPane.java:242) at javax.swing.JScrollPane.(JScrollPane.java:290) at Notepad.(Notepad.java:95) at Notepad.main(Notepad.java:128) Monitor Cache Dump: java.lang.Class@28EAD180/28F0A5A0: owner "main" (0x8053080) 1 entry Waiting to enter: "AWT-Motif" (0x83c6880) sun.awt.PostEventQueue@28EC58A8/28FD2C08: Waiting to be notified: "SunToolkit.PostEventQueue-0" (0x8388c80) java.awt.EventQueue@28EC56B8/28FD2380: Waiting to be notified: "AWT-EventQueue-0" (0x8388a80) java.lang.ref.Reference$Lock@28E9D310/28ED2F98: Waiting to be notified: "Reference Handler" (0x8096480) java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock@28E9D540/28ED3478: Waiting to be notified: "Finalizer" (0x80d4080) java.awt.Component$AWTTreeLock@28EA2800/28EF7608: owner "main" (0x8053080) 1 entry Registered Monitor Dump: utf8 hash table: JNI pinning lock: JNI global reference lock: BinClass lock: Class linking lock: System class loader lock: Code rewrite lock: Heap lock: Monitor cache lock: owner "main" (0x8053080) 1 entry Dynamic loading lock: Monitor IO lock: User signal monitor: Waiting to be notified: "Signal dispatcher" (0x8096280) Child death monitor: I/O monitor: Alarm monitor: Waiting to be notified: (0x8053280) Thread queue lock: owner "main" (0x8053080) 1 entry Monitor registry: owner "main" (0x8053080) 1 entry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 19:21:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281CA16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net [65.194.254.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EFE43FF2 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 19:21:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dragoncrest@voyager.net) Received: from j2v6e9.voyager.net (works.jasnetworks.net [192.168.0.2]) h85LOkPT005942; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:24:46 GMT (envelope-from dragoncrest@voyager.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030906102912.0214ddd0@pop.voyager.net> X-Sender: dragoncrest@pop.voyager.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:29:49 -0700 To: jhorvath@frabill.com, From: Dragoncrest In-Reply-To: References: <200309052048.58639.dgw@liwest.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: RE: Strange Mouse issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 02:21:14 -0000 >Try using the script configuration (I forget which option (#3 I think)) for >X instead of the gui or ncurses based tools. This fixed the issue on the >5.1 install I was playing with a few days ago (be sure to specify >"/dev/sysmouse" and "auto" as Daniela suggested when doing this as well). Yep, this suggestion worked! I set it to auto and X was happy again. Thanks all. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 20:10:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A30516A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EE443FEC for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:10:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.no-ip.com[66.30.200.37]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2003090603105301500p7449e>; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 03:10:53 +0000 Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com [66.30.200.37] (may be forged)) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h863AmYB083517; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:10:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h863AlZa083514; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 23:10:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: be-well.ilk.org: lowell set sender to freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org using -f Sender: lowell@be-well.no-ip.com To: "Charles Howse" References: <000901c373fa$43007eb0$04fea8c0@moe> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 05 Sep 2003 23:10:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <000901c373fa$43007eb0$04fea8c0@moe> Message-ID: <44ad9i4nns.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FBSD equivalent to Linux cp -u X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 03:10:56 -0000 "Charles Howse" writes: > I have read man cp, and I don't see a way to copy source file to > destination file *only* if source file is newer than destination file. > > In Linux, I could do cp -u. Is there another utility that can pull this > off? In sh(1), it should be as simple as: if [ $sourcefile -nt $destinationfile ] ; then cp -p $sourcefile $destinationfile ; fi [untested] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 20:38:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D0616A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C136743F93 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:38:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.net) Received: from user-119apb3.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.101.99] helo=nebula.whywire.net) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19vTtf-0000pd-00; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:38:00 -0700 Received: from whywire.net (nebula.whywire.net [10.0.3.1]) by nebula.whywire.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h8P3b3Qv017429; Wed, 24 Sep 2003 23:37:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Monah Baki" To: Dan Nelson Message-Id: <20030925033644.M44361@whywire.net> In-Reply-To: <20030905212552.GC3360@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20030905201834.M89294@whywire.com> <20030905212552.GC3360@dan.emsphone.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.10 20030731 X-OriginatingIP: 68.98.162.39 (mbaki) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer one last time :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 03:38:02 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:37:03 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 03:38:02 -0000 When I choose a trailer I get the following error message on my xterm: To get best performance recompile mplayer with --disable-runtime-cpudetection Reading config file /usr/local/share/mplayer/mplayer.conf: no such file or directory Reading config file /root/.mplayer/config reading /root/.mplayer/codecs.conf: can't open /root/.mplayer/codecs.conf: no such file or directory reading /usr/local/share/mplayer/codecs.conf: 50 audio & 136 video codecs can't load font bitmap: arpi_osd_a.raw can't load font bitmap: arpi_osd_a.raw Audio extra header: len=92 fcc=0x77617665 win32 libquicktime loader (c) Sascha Sommer Standard init done you may now call supported functions loader_init DONE??? loader_init DONE! external func COMCTL32.dll:17 external func COMCTL32.dll:16 Quicktime6 DLLs found QuickTime.qts patched !!! old entry=0x6693b330 theQuickTimeDispatcher catched ->0x6693b330 Win32 warning Accessed uninitialized Critical section (0x66bc4210)! Warning invalid Ptr Handle Win32 warning Accessed uninitialized Critical section (0x66bc41f8)! I couldn't find on my system "mplayer.conf" nor "arpi_osd_a.raw". I did a default install of mplayer, did not modify anything. On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:25:52 -0500, Dan Nelson wrote > In the last episode (Sep 05), Monah Baki said: > > Hi, sorry for being ignorant, but I don't want to switch to another > > OS if freebsd can do the job. > > > > Based on the advices I installed the following on Freebsd 5.1: > > > > multimedia/openquicktime > > multimedia/mplayer > > www/mplayer-plugin > > www/mozilla (1.4) > > www/mplayer-fonts > > > > Still can't get mplayer working. I have all the required ports > > installed based on what the freebsd.com/ports website said, I can't > > think of anything else, I'm completely lost here. > > "Can't get mplayer working" meaning what? Got an error message? > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 21:12:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B1016A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F305B43FA3 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:12:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@bsdadmins.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (h00095b01736b.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.62.77.27](untrusted sender)) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003090604122201100rrm1de>; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 04:12:22 +0000 From: David Loszewski To: "xfree86@XFree86.Org" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1062824720.1411.13.camel@hades.bsdadmins.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 06 Sep 2003 00:05:31 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Need help with ATI Radeon 9200 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dave@bsdadmins.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 04:12:23 -0000 I just bought a ATI Radeon 9200, XFree86.org says that XFree86 4.3.0 will handle any radeon card however I can't get mine to work correctly under FreeBSD 4.8 or 5.1. The only driver I could get it to work with is the "vesa" driver, and as you can image it looks like crap. Could someone provide me with some inside on this problem? I'd really rather prefer not returning this card. ATI has a driver for this card on their list for Linux but nothing for FreeBSD. Someone out there must have gotten this working by now. Any help you can provide would be much appreciated. thx, Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 21:33:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01EF16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2FE43F75 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:33:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from beta.home (ppp104-131.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net [150.101.104.131])h864X1Cj076592; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:03:02 +0930 (CST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: At home To: durham@jcdurham.com Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:03:01 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <1062511023.4165.5.camel@cronos.home.vsb> <200309030129.27754.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <200309051604.21653.durham@jcdurham.com> In-Reply-To: <200309051604.21653.durham@jcdurham.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200309061403.01362.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 04:33:06 -0000 On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:34, Jim Durham wrote: > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 11:59 am, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 23:27, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > > > Hello > > > > > > I'm using rsync to sort of mirror two 40GB disks (once a day). > > > All partitions work as expected, but root is weird (and as you > > > can see below, I sort of made it too small). > > > > > > I use this command: > > > /usr/local/bin/rsync -ax --delete / /mirror/rootfs > > > > > > But this is what I'm getting: > > > df -m > > > Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > > /dev/ad0s1a 154 71 70 51% / > > > /dev/ad1s1a 154 138 4 97% /mirror/rootfs > > > > > > So, there's a 67 MB difference between both. > > > I started out wite a cleanly formatted mirror (UFS2) > > > > > > My system is FreeBSD 5.0 RELEASE-p11 > > > > > > Thanks for any help > > > > > > Guy > > > > I expect rsync does not recognise hard linked files as such and > > makes separate images of each directory link. Looking through > > /stand on my 4.8 system I see that this would create about 60Mb > > extra. > > > > You might do better with dump and restore: > > # cd /miiror/rootfs > > # dump -0 -a -f - / | restore -r -f - > > > > Malcolm > > rsync -H preserves hard links. Maybe try rsync -Hax --delete ? > > -Jim Certainly a more convenient approach than my suggestion. I should have thought to take a look at the man page ;-) Thanks Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 21:37:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F3C16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B756143FF5 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:37:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@compar.com) Received: from hermes ([65.95.185.143]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.04 201-253-122-130-104-20030726) with SMTP id <20030906043733.XGUH18131.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@hermes>; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 00:37:33 -0400 Message-ID: <007d01c37430$4b63cdb0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Monah Baki" , "Dan Nelson" References: <20030905201834.M89294@whywire.com><20030905212552.GC3360@dan.emsphone.com> <20030925033644.M44361@whywire.net> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 00:35:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer one last time :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 04:37:36 -0000 [ corrected top-posting ] > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:25:52 -0500, Dan Nelson wrote > > In the last episode (Sep 05), Monah Baki said: > > > Hi, sorry for being ignorant, but I don't want to switch to another > > > OS if freebsd can do the job. > > > > > > Based on the advices I installed the following on Freebsd 5.1: > > > > > > multimedia/openquicktime > > > multimedia/mplayer > > > www/mplayer-plugin > > > www/mozilla (1.4) > > > www/mplayer-fonts > > > > > > Still can't get mplayer working. I have all the required ports > > > installed based on what the freebsd.com/ports website said, I can't > > > think of anything else, I'm completely lost here. > > > > "Can't get mplayer working" meaning what? Got an error message? > > > > -- > > Dan Nelson > > dnelson@allantgroup.com > When I choose a trailer I get the following error message on my xterm: > > To get best performance recompile mplayer with --disable-runtime-cpudetection > Reading config file /usr/local/share/mplayer/mplayer.conf: no such file or directory > Reading config file /root/.mplayer/config > reading /root/.mplayer/codecs.conf: can't open /root/.mplayer/codecs.conf: no such file or > directory > reading /usr/local/share/mplayer/codecs.conf: 50 audio & 136 video codecs > can't load font bitmap: arpi_osd_a.raw > can't load font bitmap: arpi_osd_a.raw > Audio extra header: len=92 fcc=0x77617665 > win32 libquicktime loader (c) Sascha Sommer > Standard init done you may now call supported functions > loader_init DONE??? > loader_init DONE! > external func COMCTL32.dll:17 > external func COMCTL32.dll:16 > Quicktime6 DLLs found > QuickTime.qts patched !!! old entry=0x6693b330 > theQuickTimeDispatcher catched ->0x6693b330 > Win32 warning Accessed uninitialized Critical section (0x66bc4210)! > Warning invalid Ptr Handle > Win32 warning Accessed uninitialized Critical section (0x66bc41f8)! > > I couldn't find on my system "mplayer.conf" nor "arpi_osd_a.raw". I did a default install of > mplayer, did not modify anything. I personally debugged a problem just like this one which turned out to be caused by mplayer not recognizing my Intel CPU properly. It fed the wrong CPU information to the QuickTime 6 DLLs which caused them to crash just like this. The version in the FreeBSD ports collection is 0.90rc3, and my patches are in the ports tree (not part of the main mplayer code yet.) What version are you using? -- Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 22:04:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D780516A4BF; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B3243F85; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:04:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from user-38ldthf.dialup.mindspring.com ([209.86.246.47] helo=mindspring.com) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19vVFR-0002RD-00; Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:04:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3F596AAB.843C86F5@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:03:39 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gilbert References: <3F5647F3.5080502@he.iki.fi> <16216.36410.889440.499438@canoe.velocet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4e0ec236727729bd695c827fea927f3d7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Petri Helenius cc: Max Clark cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org cc: Dan Nelson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 20TB Storage System X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 05:04:57 -0000 David Gilbert wrote: > >>>>> "Poul-Henning" == Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > Poul-Henning> I am not sure I would advocate 64k blocks yet. > Poul-Henning> I tend to stick with 32k block, 4k fragment myself. > > That reminds me... has anyone thought of designing the system to have > more than 8 frags per block? Increasingly, for large file > performance, we're pushing up the block size dramatically. This is > with the assumption that large disks will contain large files. My assumptions on the previous two statements by Poul are: 1) You cannot trust that a short will be treated as an unsigned 16 bit value in all cases, so values that are between 32768 and 65535 may be treated incorrectly. 2) A fully populate block bitmap byte, which means a divide by 8, is necessary to avoid potential division errors. In other words, he's afraid that the sign bit and/or the block size bitmap used by frags may be treated incorrectly. I have to agree with both those observations. A number of people have, historically, reported issues with a divisor other than 8, and the worry about the sign bit is common sense, given the many historical issues faced by other OS's when it comes to 64K block sizes. -- Terry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 22:16:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0374E16A4BF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eternal.slumber.org (eternal.slumber.org [68.98.216.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB7F43FBF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:16:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flagg@eternal.slumber.org) Received: from eternal.slumber.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h8658CbT000959 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:08:12 -0700 Received: (from flagg@localhost) by eternal.slumber.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Debian-5) id h8658Can000957 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:08:12 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:08:12 -0700 From: Shawn Ostapuk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030906050812.GA835@slumber.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: terabyte limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 05:16:07 -0000 I have around 10 IDE drives which add up to over a terabyte. My goal is to use them all as one big drive using any means necessary (I have a backup so redundency is not needed, only space in this situation) I used to use vinum (and still would like to), i hit the terabyte limit with UFS and was told i would have to upgrade to 5.1 in order to take advantage of UFS2 and > 1TB filesystem -- so thats what i've done. However I still seem to have the exactly same problems. I'm now trying it on a whole new box and set of drives with the same set of problems. It doesn't matter if i use vinum or ccdconfig -- they all work fine and predictably, until I make it larger than a terabyte then i get the following on freebsd 5.1 RELEASE: with ccdconfig # ccdconfig -cv ccd0 16 none /dev/ad1s1e .. /dev/ad10s1e ccd0: 10 componets (ad1s1e, .., ad10s1e), 2223956864 blocks interleaved at 16 blocks # newfs /dev/ccd0 newfs: wtfs: 512 bytes at sector 2223956863: Invalid argument with vinum # newfs /dev/vinum/vinum0 /dev/vinum/vinum0: 1085915.5MB (2223954992 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048 using 5910 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes. newfs: can't read old UFS1 superblock: read error from block device: Invalid arguement If i remove any single drive in the configuration making it < 1TB it works fine, i can newfs and what not. Add it back up to >1TB and newfs breaks. I've heard vinum has no practical limits, and should work fine beyond a terabyte, and i've spoken directly with people who have newfs'd over a terabyte using hardware raid (3ware) -- so I'm just baffled. Am I doing something wrong or is this configuration just simply not supported yet? It may be intestersting to note if I do new newfs -N for testing i get no errors and the output looks great. Any suggestions or confirmation on weather or not this should work or not or alternative ideas? 12channel IDE raid controller is about $700 more than i got right now :) Thanks for any help -- been driving me nuts for a while now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 01:09:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8D116A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com (mailout08.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABACD43FBD for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:09:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hhasenbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19vY7v-0004Q0-06; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:08:59 +0200 Received: from techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (S377x4ZTZedqwZUJ3ZJMqE-7i3ByzC28Afl1xNlmQtfmxCkAFycTYN@[217.82.85.197]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19vY7t-0wGRUm0; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 10:08:57 +0200 Message-ID: <3F599620.4020205@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:09:04 +0200 From: Hendrik Hasenbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: de, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jhorvath@frabill.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Seen: false X-ID: S377x4ZTZedqwZUJ3ZJMqE-7i3ByzC28Afl1xNlmQtfmxCkAFycTYN@t-dialin.net cc: Jerry McAllister cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.1 & WD 80.0GB SE Drive Geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 08:09:06 -0000 Jim wrote: > Same deal. Installation runs through fine, does the post-install, finishes > nicely, and reboots to a void (system runs POST, shows the devices, then > hangs indefinitely (pre-os startup)). Turn on LBA access for that disk in your bios instead of auto and dont touch the geometrie in the editor. That worked for me. Hendrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 01:23:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCA416A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com (mailout09.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE46C43FAF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:23:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hhasenbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19vYLG-0007l1-02; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:22:46 +0200 Received: from techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (bLYgReZp8e5SZKZs4vCwVwx1M3yEFHFj2CC8+36d6EI++uK9uLXOcu@[217.82.85.197]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19vYL5-1C4Cki0; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 10:22:35 +0200 Message-ID: <3F599952.5000403@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:22:42 +0200 From: Hendrik Hasenbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: de, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Leone References: <3F58FDF6.3030707@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3F58FDF6.3030707@pacbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Seen: false X-ID: bLYgReZp8e5SZKZs4vCwVwx1M3yEFHFj2CC8+36d6EI++uK9uLXOcu@t-dialin.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible errors in FreeBSD 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 08:23:49 -0000 James Leone wrote: > 2. While I am in KDE in FreeBSD, but not in KDE in Linux, if I click on > the Floppy Device icon before the floppy is inserted, I will not be able > to access a subsequently inserted floppy disk. When I do, I get an error > that says: "the device is not configured." Why do you even want to access a floppy before you insert it into the drive? No system should be able to do that. Kde tries to mount the floppy on clicking on the item. That is going to fail, because without a floppy in the drive there is no device in the device filesystem. Can't think why that should work with linux. > 3. When I went to /boot/kernel and typed kldload pcm, it appeared to > load up fine, no warning messages, etc. However, when I boot into KDE, > KDE will not have any sound. However, if I compile PCM into the kernel > and reboot, KDE's sound works just fine. Should work both ways. Perhaps the kde sound deamon is run by an script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d before your module is probed in. > 4. The Real Player port does not use FreeBSD's sound system, even though > sound is working in KDE. I have found a few proposed solutions, > including one from the Real One Player forum, but none work. The error > message says device not found. Realplayer is working fine. Perhaps your sound device is already taken and blocked by kde. > 5. When configured with the tools available to sysinstall, and > additionally when X -configure is run, the XF86Config file does not > include the modes lines that I get in SuSE Linux 8.2. I ended up copying > over and slightly modifying SuSE's XF86Config file for better screeen > resolution. Modelines aren't needed any more. Just insert the parameters of your monitor and choose the desired resolution. Btw most screens show a sharper display if they aren't running at their stated max. Hendrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 01:30:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FD316A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9F743FF7 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hhasenbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19vYSH-0004m0-02; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:30:01 +0200 Received: from techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (EGW1poZOrezP68VMhoX9ohQf3gVg+OzrptHHe-AXoBVmbYTA6D5s62@[217.82.85.197]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19vYS2-0EXfMm0; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 10:29:46 +0200 Message-ID: <3F599B00.9040006@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:29:52 +0200 From: Hendrik Hasenbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: de, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shawn Ostapuk References: <20030906050812.GA835@slumber.org> In-Reply-To: <20030906050812.GA835@slumber.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Seen: false X-ID: EGW1poZOrezP68VMhoX9ohQf3gVg+OzrptHHe-AXoBVmbYTA6D5s62@t-dialin.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: terabyte limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 08:30:05 -0000 Shawn Ostapuk wrote: > I have around 10 IDE drives which add up to over a terabyte. My goal > is to use them all as one big drive using any means necessary (I have a > backup so redundency is not needed, only space in this situation) > > I used to use vinum (and still would like to), i hit the terabyte limit > with UFS and was told i would have to upgrade to 5.1 in order to take > advantage of UFS2 and > 1TB filesystem -- so thats what i've done. > However I still seem to have the exactly same problems. I'm now trying > it on a whole new box and set of drives with the same set of problems. > > It doesn't matter if i use vinum or ccdconfig -- they all work fine and > predictably, until I make it larger than a terabyte then i get the > following on freebsd 5.1 RELEASE: > > with ccdconfig > > # ccdconfig -cv ccd0 16 none /dev/ad1s1e .. /dev/ad10s1e > ccd0: 10 componets (ad1s1e, .., ad10s1e), 2223956864 blocks interleaved > at 16 blocks > # newfs /dev/ccd0 > newfs: wtfs: 512 bytes at sector 2223956863: Invalid argument > > with vinum > > # newfs /dev/vinum/vinum0 > /dev/vinum/vinum0: 1085915.5MB (2223954992 sectors) block size 16384, > fragment size 2048 > using 5910 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes. > newfs: can't read old UFS1 superblock: read error from block device: > Invalid arguement Try newfs -O 2 /dev/vinum/vinum0 to force ufs2. Hope that works. Hendrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 01:31:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934A116A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.oisca.org (mail.oisca.org [164.46.152.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E4E43FF7 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:31:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r_ikeda@oisca.org) Received: from nova (f194.ag236.FreeBit.NE.JP [219.109.236.194]) by mail.oisca.org (8.11.6p2/8.11.3) with SMTP id h868Vhp10649; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 17:31:43 +0900 Message-ID: <009101c37451$2dd606c0$6701a8c0@nova> From: "Rommel B. Ikeda" To: "horio shoichi" References: <004e01c371ed$e0fc3a00$3601a8c0@nova><20030903100321.O649@pukruppa.net><20030903085946.GA35676@ei.bzerk.org><003001c3734f$8a23abb0$6701a8c0@nova> <20030905.120112.8809d5ceccfc0ce9.10.0.3.9@bugsgrief.net> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 17:30:50 +0900 Organization: OISCA-International MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: host and hostname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Rommel B. Ikeda" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 08:31:48 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "horio shoichi" To: "Rommel B. Ikeda" Cc: Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: Re: host and hostname > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:46:25 +0900 > "Rommel B. Ikeda" wrote: > > Thanks very much for the reply, my apologies for not replying so soon.... > > > > Actually, I posted my question on "host and hostname", because, I have been > > trying to find out if my Internet Settings is correct or not...I am having > > problems with cvsup for a very long long time now... > > > > Actually, I did tried: > > # host freebsd.org > > Host not found, Try again > > > > I know that their is something wrong with our internet connection in our > > company...but, I do not think that the person in-charge of our Computer Room > > can help me...Unfortunately, Although we are an NGO, Nobody knows about > > FreeBSD yet in our Organization... > > > > Anyways, about my comments on "Can someone point me to some information > > about it aside from the man > > pages...", I do read the man pages, everytime, but on the time that I was > > reading about the "host and hostname", I was a little in a hurry and those > > technical terms just made my head ached so, I though maybe I would ask > > everybody, just for this time...My head was really full with the problems I > > have with cvsup... > > > > Thanks anyway... > > > > Rommel B. Ikeda > > OISCA-International > > http://www.oisca.org/ > > Looks like you don't have /etc/resolv.conf file. > > > The content would be like this, assuming your site has no other name servers: > > domain oisca.org > nameserver 164.46.1.1 > nameserver 211.10.162.68 > > > BTW, the nameservers are taken from whois database for oisca.org. > > NS1.FIRSTSERVER.NE.JP 164.46.1.1 > NS2.FIRSTSERVER.NE.JP 211.10.162.68 > > > horio shoichi Thank you very much for the reply and also for looking up our nameserver...I tried to find out this numbers but I was told that our ISP dynamically provides us this numbers...So, if I will be using the nameserver that can be found in our Server Machine...when it disconnects...it will use a new nameserver dynamically provided by our ISP...That is what I was told... I just received an Email from the Mailing List advicing me to create a /etc/resolv.conf... He was also kind enough to provide me our DNS... domain oisca.org nameserver 164.46.1.1 nameserver 211.10.162.68 I created a /etc/resolv.conf with this one as what you have suggested When my system starts: The booting process halts for a few minutes saying "continuing vi sessions:" and then boots and starts gdm... after gdm starts, I can log in but I can use my built-in mouse... after logging in...it halts for a few minutes before I can use my built-in mouse... when i invoked this command: # host freebsd.org halts for a few minutes to read and then... #host not found, try again Any suggestions on what happened... I would really appreciate it....Thank you... Rommel B. Ikeda From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 01:54:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8823216A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com (mailout10.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983D54400D for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:54:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hhasenbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19vXsA-0007Yl-01; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:52:42 +0200 Received: from techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (SrQLpoZToe4UC09sNev0shtJDfAM2jjZl8uHs0kP4bprEOhkDRPc8a@[217.82.85.197]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19vXry-0H8Wye0; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 09:52:30 +0200 Message-ID: <3F599245.4070902@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:52:37 +0200 From: Hendrik Hasenbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: de, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Hartzell References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Seen: false X-ID: SrQLpoZToe4UC09sNev0shtJDfAM2jjZl8uHs0kP4bprEOhkDRPc8a@t-dialin.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: using FreeBSD plus KDE as a kiosk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 08:54:35 -0000 Matt Hartzell wrote: > I am interested in using FreeBSD and KDE as a semi-publicly accessible > internet terminal. I have a web-based application that I would like to > run from this type of setup. > > Does anyone have any experience using a setup like this? Can any one > point me toward relevant documents? If you only need to show a website and no other programs should be displayed in parallel you might want to try a combination of ratpoison+browser of your choice. Depending on your browser you can even omit ratpoison and just start the browser as the xsession (should have tabbed browsing then). In effect you get a fullscreen browser with your app as homepage. More browser windows can be openend and switched between them with free configurable shortcuts (i recommend alt+tab). If the browser is closed you end the xsession and depending on configuration a new session might open or show a loginscreen. Hendrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 02:10:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2532F16A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 02:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E8D43FAF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 02:10:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jleone@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net (adsl-66-124-255-103.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [66.124.255.103])h869AHtu029871; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 04:10:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F59CE9A.1060907@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 05:10:02 -0700 From: James Leone User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hendrik Hasenbein References: <3F58FDF6.3030707@pacbell.net> <3F599952.5000403@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> In-Reply-To: <3F599952.5000403@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible errors in FreeBSD 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:10:20 -0000 Hendrik Hasenbein wrote: > James Leone wrote: > >> 2. While I am in KDE in FreeBSD, but not in KDE in Linux, if I click >> on the Floppy Device icon before the floppy is inserted, I will not >> be able to access a subsequently inserted floppy disk. When I do, I >> get an error that says: "the device is not configured." > > > Why do you even want to access a floppy before you insert it into the > drive? No system should be able to do that. Kde tries to mount the > floppy on clicking on the item. That is going to fail, because without > a floppy in the drive there is no device in the device filesystem. > Can't think why that should work with linux. > >> 3. When I went to /boot/kernel and typed kldload pcm, it appeared to >> load up fine, no warning messages, etc. However, when I boot into >> KDE, KDE will not have any sound. However, if I compile PCM into the >> kernel and reboot, KDE's sound works just fine. > > > Should work both ways. Perhaps the kde sound deamon is run by an > script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d before your module is probed in. > >> 4. The Real Player port does not use FreeBSD's sound system, even >> though sound is working in KDE. I have found a few proposed >> solutions, including one from the Real One Player forum, but none >> work. The error message says device not found. > > > Realplayer is working fine. Perhaps your sound device is already taken > and blocked by kde. > >> 5. When configured with the tools available to sysinstall, and >> additionally when X -configure is run, the XF86Config file does not >> include the modes lines that I get in SuSE Linux 8.2. I ended up >> copying over and slightly modifying SuSE's XF86Config file for better >> screeen resolution. > > > Modelines aren't needed any more. Just insert the parameters of your > monitor and choose the desired resolution. Btw most screens show a > sharper display if they aren't running at their stated max. > > Hendrik > LIke I said, I am just providing information here. I really don't care if it gets resolved, but I did care enough to point out these REAL problems. James Leone From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 02:46:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA0A16A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 02:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC31743FF5 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 02:46:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hhasenbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19vZdt-0001dV-02; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 11:46:05 +0200 Received: from techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (S95ANUZF8ePYuFBujaeZUWb+Vum+J1XdA1Vi0rR5LSnImVrx0Ug2ky@[217.82.85.197]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19vZdo-29prpQ0; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 11:46:00 +0200 Message-ID: <3F59ACDF.2030707@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 11:46:07 +0200 From: Hendrik Hasenbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: de, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Leone References: <3F58FDF6.3030707@pacbell.net> <3F599952.5000403@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> <3F59CE9A.1060907@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3F59CE9A.1060907@pacbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Seen: false X-ID: S95ANUZF8ePYuFBujaeZUWb+Vum+J1XdA1Vi0rR5LSnImVrx0Ug2ky@t-dialin.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible errors in FreeBSD 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:46:09 -0000 James Leone wrote: > LIke I said, I am just providing information here. I really don't care > if it gets resolved, but I did care enough to point out these REAL > problems. If you aren't interested in solutions set the reply-to to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org for the problem reports. Still can't see REAL problems here. Hendrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 02:48:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAC716A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 02:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tiscali.cz (stateless1.tiscali.cz [213.235.135.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C88243FEA for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 02:48:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin.vana@vslib.cz) Received: from Vanovci (213.235.134.86) by mail.tiscali.cz (6.7.018) id 3F269CE0009BAC5A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 11:42:11 +0200 Message-ID: <002e01c3745c$71640760$5686ebd5@Vanovci> From: "Martin Vana" To: Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 11:50:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Vim and C code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:48:01 -0000 Hi, I would like to do some more advanced editing of my C programs in Vim, like to go through program step by step or to have 'watch' on some of variables. All I've achieved now is syntax highlighting and Quickfix with :make command. I know there is EMACS somewhere out there, and other more complex enviroments, but I would like to stay with Vim, which I presonally like. A link to some tutorial would be exactly what I need. Thanx PS: A bonus questions for those who haven't answered any newbie question yet: I can't get :s/aaa/bbb/g to be working from curosor till the end of file only. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 03:14:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2D016A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 03:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsl-mail.kamp.net (mail.kamp-dsl.de [195.62.99.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33D1F43FBD for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 03:14:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@pukruppa.de) Received: (qmail 30669 invoked by uid 505); 6 Sep 2003 10:14:54 -0000 Received: from root@pukruppa.de by dsl-mail by uid 502 with qmail-scanner-1.14 (spamassassin: 2.43. Clear:. Processed in 0.179259 secs); 06 Sep 2003 10:14:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reverse-213-146-114-24.dialin.kamp-dsl.de) (213.146.114.24) by dsl-mail.kamp.net with SMTP; 6 Sep 2003 10:14:53 -0000 Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 12:19:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa X-X-Sender: root@pukruppa.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030906111848.N649@pukruppa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: routing problems (experience needed) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:14:54 -0000 Hi, I am trying to substitute our school's old Win NT4 Server by a SAMBA/FreeBSD. The SAMBA PDC itself works like a charm, but without the NT machine it can't be located from the different subnets - and so is quite useless. This is our network design: Internet ^ | _______+_____ | DSL Router| 172.16.2.254 -------+----- | _______+____ | Switch +--+ -+-+-+-+-+-- | _____________ | | | | | +-----------+ | PROXY FBSD|--+ | | | | | 172.16.2.1 ------------- | | | | ____________ +_________ 172.16.2.11 | | | +-| SAMBA PDC| | NT4 PDC| | | | ----------- -------+-- | | | 172.16.2.253 | | | | 172.16.1.1 different subnets: | 172.16.3. | 172.16.4. | 172.16.5. 172.16.2. etc. subnet (with routers and (with switches) switches) As I said: connections between the different subnets break as soon as the NT4 Server is plugged off. What can be done: 1) Change all machines to mask 255.255.0.0 - or would this end up in bad perfomance? (We have about 35 workstations all over the house and the number is growing) 2) Set up some kind of router (we have got some old P75 left)? 3) Something completely different? Thanks for all kinds of ideas and hints. Uli. +---------------------------+ | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | | Wuppertal | | Germany | +---------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 03:16:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE97316A4C0 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 03:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zasran.com (zasran.com [198.144.206.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A100243FEC for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 03:16:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steffl@bigfoot.com) Received: from bigfoot.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zasran.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB801D641 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 03:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F59B3E2.4070106@bigfoot.com> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 03:16:02 -0700 From: Erik Steffl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030714 Debian/1.4-2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, sk, cs, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <002e01c3745c$71640760$5686ebd5@Vanovci> In-Reply-To: <002e01c3745c$71640760$5686ebd5@Vanovci> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Vim and C code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:16:04 -0000 Martin Vana wrote: > Hi, > I would like to do some more advanced editing of my C programs in Vim, > like to go through program step by step or to have 'watch' on some of > variables. All I've achieved now is syntax highlighting and Quickfix with you need a debugger for this, probably gdb with some gui frontend (I like ddd) erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 03:52:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76CF16A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 03:52:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from praetor.linc-it.com (hardtime.linuxman.net [66.147.26.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D6243FDD for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 03:52:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mortis.over-yonder.net (adsl-19-159-39.jan.bellsouth.net [68.19.159.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by praetor.linc-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1116154F6; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:52:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mortis.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id EB05E20F16; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:52:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:52:22 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Martin Vana Message-ID: <20030906105222.GF43951@over-yonder.net> References: <002e01c3745c$71640760$5686ebd5@Vanovci> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002e01c3745c$71640760$5686ebd5@Vanovci> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i-fullermd.1 X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vim and C code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:52:27 -0000 On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 11:50:40AM +0200 I heard the voice of Martin Vana, and lo! it spake thus: > > PS: A bonus questions for those who haven't answered any newbie question > yet: I can't get :s/aaa/bbb/g to be working from curosor till the end of > file only. :.,$s/aaa/bbb/g -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 04:04:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF86116A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 04:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from telecom.sarkor.uz (telecom.sarkor.uz [81.95.226.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1497543FE9 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 04:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thor@telecom.sarkor.uz) Received: by telecom.sarkor.uz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6FA7D142E5B; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 15:51:50 +0500 (UZT) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 15:51:50 +0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030906105150.GA18353@telecom.sarkor.uz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: thor@telecom.sarkor.uz (Timur) Subject: VT82C686/A/B AC'97 Audio Codec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 11:04:27 -0000 Hi! I have integrated via82c686 soundcard.. I am new to freebsd (coming from linux), and wishing to use it instead windows at work. The sound card in Windows XP is shown as AC97 codec, and works well. Unfortunately, I have no luck with making it work under freebsd. What I am trying to do is to load via82c686 driver.. it loads, but the kernel does not writes any messages about detected card (it with CMI8xxx card at home).. My FreeBSD is 4.8-RELEASE Any help and suggestions will be greatly appreciated! Timur. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 04:14:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFD516A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 04:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A3743FE5 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 04:14:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hhasenbe@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19vb1J-0007NU-01; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:14:21 +0200 Received: from techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (XKchtyZfgeRZ0ZT+9PdHCOr4jKfpSz62Cu+bp2Jp4vVkJ27zeHmVoG@[217.82.85.197]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19vb14-0EtOEK0; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 13:14:06 +0200 Message-ID: <3F59C184.4000901@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:14:12 +0200 From: Hendrik Hasenbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: de, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Timur References: <20030906105150.GA18353@telecom.sarkor.uz> In-Reply-To: <20030906105150.GA18353@telecom.sarkor.uz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Seen: false X-ID: XKchtyZfgeRZ0ZT+9PdHCOr4jKfpSz62Cu+bp2Jp4vVkJ27zeHmVoG@t-dialin.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VT82C686/A/B AC'97 Audio Codec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 11:14:28 -0000 Timur wrote: > Hi! > > I have integrated via82c686 soundcard.. I am new to freebsd (coming > from linux), and wishing to use it instead windows at work. The sound > card in Windows XP is shown as AC97 codec, and works well. > > Unfortunately, I have no luck with making it work under freebsd. What I > am trying to do is to load via82c686 driver.. it loads, but the kernel > does not writes any messages about detected card (it with CMI8xxx card > at home).. I only added 'device pcm' to the kernel, so kldload pcm should work as root. Hendrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 04:55:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F5F16A504 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 04:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from telecom.sarkor.uz (telecom.sarkor.uz [81.95.226.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E2F43F85 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 04:55:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thor@telecom.sarkor.uz) Received: by telecom.sarkor.uz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 00492142E5B; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 16:42:51 +0500 (UZT) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 16:42:51 +0500 To: Hendrik Hasenbein Message-ID: <20030906114251.GA18424@telecom.sarkor.uz> References: <20030906105150.GA18353@telecom.sarkor.uz> <3F59C184.4000901@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F59C184.4000901@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: thor@telecom.sarkor.uz (Timur) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VT82C686/A/B AC'97 Audio Codec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 11:55:29 -0000 On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 01:14:12PM +0200, Hendrik Hasenbein wrote: > Timur wrote: > >Hi! > > > >I have integrated via82c686 soundcard.. I am new to freebsd (coming > >from linux), and wishing to use it instead windows at work. The sound > >card in Windows XP is shown as AC97 codec, and works well. > > > >Unfortunately, I have no luck with making it work under freebsd. What I > >am trying to do is to load via82c686 driver.. it loads, but the kernel > >does not writes any messages about detected card (it with CMI8xxx card > >at home).. > > I only added 'device pcm' to the kernel, so kldload pcm should work as root. > > Hendrik What do you mean by adding 'device pcm' to kernel? I have a kernel that comes with 4.8-STABLE, i did not recompile it. grep pcm /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT shows two lines: device pcm0 at isa? irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 device pcm I try to do 'kldload snd_pcm'. Silence (the kernel is supposed to write something like PCM... on the first console, am I right?) mpg123 fails, says can't open /dev/dsp Also, I try to 'kldload snd_via82c686', no results.. Timur. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 05:00:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2364916A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from remt21.cluster1.charter.net (remt21.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.8.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5524B43FEA for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:00:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from [66.168.145.25] (HELO moe) by remt21.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 148013743; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 08:00:54 -0400 From: "Charles Howse" To: Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:00:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01c3746e$832b8d80$04fea8c0@moe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <44ad9i4nns.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal cc: lowell@be-well.no-ip.com Subject: RE: FBSD equivalent to Linux cp -u X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 12:00:57 -0000 > > I have read man cp, and I don't see a way to copy source file to > > destination file *only* if source file is newer than > destination file. > > > > In Linux, I could do cp -u. Is there another utility that > can pull this > > off? > > In sh(1), it should be as simple as: > > if [ $sourcefile -nt $destinationfile ] ; > then > cp -p $sourcefile $destinationfile ; > fi > > [untested] Thanks, Lowell. Once again I've had an attack of the dumb-ass! :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 05:03:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5DF16A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6152E44003 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:03:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h86C3JQr079144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 6 Sep 2003 13:03:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)h86C3Hgi079139; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 13:03:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 13:03:17 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: "Steven G. Kargl" Message-ID: <20030906120317.GA78469@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , "Steven G. Kargl" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030905200737.GB45683@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <200309052208.h85M8MbA060878@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200309052208.h85M8MbA060878@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-11.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAM, X11, and su as a normal user? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 12:03:35 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 03:08:22PM -0700, Steven G. Kargl wrote: > Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:18:40PM -0700, Steven G. Kargl wrote: > > > After a few hours of frustation, it's time to ask a question. > > >=20 > > > I have 2 accounts on my machine. I use startx to start > > > X11 as user kargl. If I then su to user sgk, I cannot > > > fire up X clients. For example, > > >=20 > > > troutmask:kargl[202] su sgk > > > Password: > > > troutmask:sgk[201] gnuplot > > > Terminal type set to 'x11' > > > gnuplot> plot sin(x) > > > gnuplot>=20 > > > gnuplot: unable to open display 'troutmask.apl.washington.edu:0' > > > gnuplot: X11 aborted. > > >=20 > > > I've tried using "xhost sgk@", but this doesn't work. > > > The only thing I can think of that may need to be > > > configured is PAM, but the documentation is rather > > > incomplete. So, anyone know how to setup su to > > > permit sgk to use X clients? > >=20 > > As user kargl: > >=20 > > % xauth nextract /tmp/foo ${DISPLAY} > >=20 > > As user sgk: > >=20 > > % xauth nmerge /tmp/foo > >=20 > > and remember to delete /tmp/foo as soon as possible. > >=20 >=20 > I still get the above results with gnuplot after issuing the > two xauth commands you give above. If I use "xauth list" > with as both users the entry for $DISPLAY shows the same key.=20 >=20 > troutmask:sgk[246] xauth list > troutmask.apl.washington.edu:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 some_long_string > troutmask:kargl[245] xauth list > troutmask.apl.washington.edu:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 some_long_string >=20 >=20 > I suspect that I need to add something to /etc/pam.d/{su,system,xserver}, > but I can't locate adequate documentation. If all your X sessions are local to you machine (and possibly even if they aren't), then try setting the DISPLAY variable to :0.0 -- you'll need to repeat the fun'n'games with xauth to match the new $DISPLAY setting. That means that all connections to the X server will take place via the unix domain socket in /tmp/.X11-unix/ rather than through network sockets. This is generally a good move as the default in FreeBSD nowadays is for the X server not to listen on the network at all. You can check if your X server is listening on the net by running: % netstat -an | grep '\.60[0-6][0-9] ' On a system using the default settings, there won't be any output from that command. Ports 6000 -- 6063 are allocated to the X window system, although generally only the bottom one or two of that range would ever be used on most personal machines. Note that port 6010 or above is generally ssh(1), rather than the X server directly. ssh(1) is also the answer to being able to run X clients remotely without having the X server listening directly on the network, incidentally having the very welcome benefit of encrypting all of the X network traffic. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/Wc0FdtESqEQa7a0RAjByAJ9WUk6aKV/4DHadxIy9ODfMISZBIgCghqFe Y7mRsMR2Q9mMmjXlxfmvvD8= =2KRn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 05:08:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7C116A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 2p.hu (fehercapa.kektintahal.pirospolip.hu [195.70.35.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC46444015 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wigyori@2p.hu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 2p.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF409720A; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:10:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fehercapa (fehercapa [195.70.35.189]) by 2p.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AD49720A for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:10:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:10:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Zoltan HERPAI X-X-Sender: wigyori@fehercapa.kektintahal.pirospolip.hu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: AMaViS-ng. Subject: vinum concat resilience X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 12:08:58 -0000 Hi all, I've been looking thru google and the mailinglists, but have found no answer to this. Is it possible (and if it is, how) with a concatenated plex in case of a predicted disk failure (like, SMART showing problems or squeeking disk) to move the data to another hot- or cold-spare disk _by hand_, thus getting the plex and the data back online? Thanks in advance, -w- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 05:50:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B11B16A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net (stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A359243FBF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:50:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from algould@datawok.com) Received: from 21-207.lctv-b4.cablelynx.com ([24.204.21.207] helo=yoda.datawok.com) by stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19vcWE-0001RV-00; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 05:50:22 -0700 From: "Andrew L. Gould" To: thor@telecom.sarkor.uz (Timur), Hendrik Hasenbein Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:50:36 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030906105150.GA18353@telecom.sarkor.uz> <3F59C184.4000901@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> <20030906114251.GA18424@telecom.sarkor.uz> In-Reply-To: <20030906114251.GA18424@telecom.sarkor.uz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309060750.36527.algould@datawok.com> X-ELNK-Trace: ee791d459e3d6817d780f4a490ca69564776905774d2ac4b732fa2dad5cfe1861a9c731d945bb8d1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VT82C686/A/B AC'97 Audio Codec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 12:50:28 -0000 On Saturday 06 September 2003 06:42 am, Timur wrote: > On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 01:14:12PM +0200, Hendrik Hasenbein wrote: > > Timur wrote: > > >Hi! > > > > > >I have integrated via82c686 soundcard.. I am new to freebsd (coming > > >from linux), and wishing to use it instead windows at work. The sound > > >card in Windows XP is shown as AC97 codec, and works well. > > > > > >Unfortunately, I have no luck with making it work under freebsd. What I > > >am trying to do is to load via82c686 driver.. it loads, but the kernel > > >does not writes any messages about detected card (it with CMI8xxx card > > >at home).. > > > > I only added 'device pcm' to the kernel, so kldload pcm should work as > > root. > > > > Hendrik > > What do you mean by adding 'device pcm' to kernel? I have a kernel that > comes with 4.8-STABLE, i did not recompile it. > grep pcm /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT shows two lines: > device pcm0 at isa? irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 > device pcm > The line: "device pcm" needs to be added to a new kernel configuration file. The easiest way to do this is to copy /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC to a new file. Follow directions at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html I think the "pcm0" line is for ISA sound cards. > I try to do 'kldload snd_pcm'. Silence (the kernel is supposed to write > something like PCM... on the first console, am I right?) > > mpg123 fails, says can't open /dev/dsp > > Also, I try to 'kldload snd_via82c686', no results.. > > Timur. Best of luck, Andrew L. Gould From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 06:01:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F305316A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay2-f86.bay2.hotmail.com [65.54.247.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C9743FFD for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:01:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from missive@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:01:33 -0700 Received: from 208.186.59.185 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:01:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.186.59.185] X-Originating-Email: [missive@hotmail.com] From: "Lee Harr" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:01:32 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2003 13:01:33.0257 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF2C6B90:01C37476] Subject: Re: mplayer one last time :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:01:34 -0000 >>I just got mplayer working very well yesterday... I am >>really impressed with what is working now! >> >>On 4.8-STABLE I had to recompile my kernel with: >> >>options CPU_ENABLE_SSE >>options CPU_ATHLON_SSE_HACK >> > >Thanks for this info. When you modified the kernel, >you just used the ports that I'm using and it >worked??? nothing fancy at all??? [also] >Win32 warning Accessed uninitialized Critical section (0x66bc4210)! Yup. I was getting a very similar error message when trying to play quicktime videos. I recompiled the kernel with those two options and now it works perfectly. It plays "windows media" files too. All I can say is "great work" to those who hooked this all up. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 06:25:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EC116A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.bluecirclesoft.com (cvg-65-26-145-190.cinci.rr.com [65.26.145.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA9143F3F for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:25:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc.ramirez@bluecirclesoft.com) Received: from www.bluecirclesoft.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h86DP0ax063160; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 09:25:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mrami@bluecirclesoft.com) Received: from localhost (mrami@localhost)h86DOxfa063157; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 09:24:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: www.bluecirclesoft.com: mrami owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 09:24:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Ramirez To: Martin Vana In-Reply-To: <002e01c3745c$71640760$5686ebd5@Vanovci> Message-ID: <20030906092258.U73827@www.bluecirclesoft.com> References: <002e01c3745c$71640760$5686ebd5@Vanovci> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vim and C code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:25:02 -0000 On Sat, 6 Sep 2003, Martin Vana wrote: > Hi, > I would like to do some more advanced editing of my C programs in Vim, > like to go through program step by step or to have 'watch' on some of > variables. All I've achieved now is syntax highlighting and Quickfix with > :make command. I know there is EMACS somewhere out there, and > other more complex enviroments, but I would like to stay with Vim, which > I presonally like. > A link to some tutorial would be exactly what I need. > Thanx This would not be a function of Vim, you'll need to move to another program, like gdb: http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/gdb/gdb_toc.html -- Marc Ramirez Blue Circle Software Corporation 513-688-1070 (main) 513-382-1270 (direct) http://www.bluecirclesoft.com http://www.mrami.com (personal) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 06:26:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65B616A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from one.mteege.de (one.mteege.de [81.2.131.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4498344005 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:26:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matthias-fbsdquest@mteege.de) Received: (qmail 89424 invoked by uid 66); 6 Sep 2003 13:26:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 33238 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2003 13:20:37 -0000 Received: from gic.mteege.de (HELO mteege.de) (192.168.153.10) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Sep 2003 13:20:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 53222 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Sep 2003 13:19:32 -0000 To: "Vledder, Hans" References: From: Matthias Teege Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 15:19:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Hans Vledder's message of "Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:55:14 +0200") Message-ID: <86llt25a1o.fsf@gic.mteege.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 802.11g and FreeBSD based access point ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:26:10 -0000 "Vledder, Hans" writes: > I am considering building a 802.11g FreeBSD access point. I've read that I > will need a network adapter that supports hostap (access point mode). Does > anyone known a brand/model (PCI) that's being supported by FreeBSD ? Netgear PCI Cards (401a?) are supported but this may change. Bis dann Matthias -- Matthias Teege -- http://www.mteege.de make world not war PGP-Key auf Anfrage From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 06:30:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE54616A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oola.is.kpn.be (oola.is.kpn.be [193.74.71.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3CB43F75 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bctk@pi.be) Received: from (u212-239-148-40.freedom.planetinternet.be [212.239.148.40]) by oola.is.kpn.be with ESMTP id h86DU7Z00721 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 15:30:07 +0200 Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 15:29:10 +0200 (West-Europa (zomertijd)) From: Ehwaz003 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: X-Warning: UNAuthenticated Sender MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Sending bug reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:30:12 -0000 Hi, I have tried to install FreeBSD 5.0 (non-stable release) and have experienced some problems. I would like to know where I can post these bugs and problems, so you can figure out what's going wrong. It would be a great pleasure for me to contribute to your problem. Anyway, I just got one warning for you and everyone who installs the OS: watch out with the automatic creation of the partition table!!! It cripled my VFAT and now I lost all my data (which was located on a seperate *backup* partition. It seems that 2 partitions are somewhat merged (propably just a few sectors!). Ranish and FIPS can't help me, and a backup utility from PartitionMagic 8.0 gives me a "Partition table corrupt - BAD" message. I should of been more careful! At least I took a backup 2 days ago with a SCSI CD-R (which also doesn't work in FreeBSD 5.0 --> detecting /cd0 instead of cd0c in FreeBSD 4.8 (stable))! I hope this is the right address to send such bug reports. If not, could you please give me the email address so I can send every other problems to them? Thank you. Gonna save me data now and reformat the HD! Kind Regards, Benny Cassier Folding@Home - Team Ehwaz (#14044) Team Leader (bctk at pi dot be) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 06:47:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A89B16A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net (mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63BC44008 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:47:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.net) Received: from user-119apb3.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.101.99] helo=nebula.whywire.net) by mallard.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19vdPQ-0007Hl-00; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 06:47:25 -0700 Received: from whywire.net (nebula.whywire.net [10.0.3.1]) by nebula.whywire.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h86DntQv001042; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 09:49:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Monah Baki" To: "Matthew Emmerton" Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 10:49:55 -0400 Message-Id: <20030906134612.M94090@whywire.net> In-Reply-To: <007d01c37430$4b63cdb0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> References: <20030905201834.M89294@whywire.com><20030905212552.GC3360@dan.emsphone.com> <20030925033644.M44361@whywire.net> <007d01c37430$4b63cdb0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.10 20030731 X-OriginatingIP: 68.98.162.39 (mbaki) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mplayer one last time :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:47:26 -0000 mplayer version 0.90.0.110, and mplayerplug-in version 0.71, updated the ports 2 days ago. Thank you. On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 00:35:26 -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote > [ corrected top-posting ] > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:25:52 -0500, Dan Nelson wrote > > > In the last episode (Sep 05), Monah Baki said: > > > > Hi, sorry for being ignorant, but I don't want to switch to another > > > > OS if freebsd can do the job. > > > > > > > > Based on the advices I installed the following on Freebsd 5.1: > > > > > > > > multimedia/openquicktime > > > > multimedia/mplayer > > > > www/mplayer-plugin > > > > www/mozilla (1.4) > > > > www/mplayer-fonts > > > > > > > > Still can't get mplayer working. I have all the required ports > > > > installed based on what the freebsd.com/ports website said, I can't > > > > think of anything else, I'm completely lost here. > > > > > > "Can't get mplayer working" meaning what? Got an error message? > > > > > > -- > > > Dan Nelson > > > dnelson@allantgroup.com > > > When I choose a trailer I get the following error message on my xterm: > > > > To get best performance recompile mplayer > with --disable-runtime-cpudetection > > Reading config file /usr/local/share/mplayer/mplayer.conf: no such file or > directory > > Reading config file /root/.mplayer/config > > reading /root/.mplayer/codecs.conf: can't open /root/.mplayer/codecs.conf: > no such file or > > directory > > reading /usr/local/share/mplayer/codecs.conf: 50 audio & 136 video codecs > > can't load font bitmap: arpi_osd_a.raw > > can't load font bitmap: arpi_osd_a.raw > > Audio extra header: len=92 fcc=0x77617665 > > win32 libquicktime loader (c) Sascha Sommer > > Standard init done you may now call supported functions > > loader_init DONE??? > > loader_init DONE! > > external func COMCTL32.dll:17 > > external func COMCTL32.dll:16 > > Quicktime6 DLLs found > > QuickTime.qts patched !!! old entry=0x6693b330 > > theQuickTimeDispatcher catched ->0x6693b330 > > Win32 warning Accessed uninitialized Critical section (0x66bc4210)! > > Warning invalid Ptr Handle > > Win32 warning Accessed uninitialized Critical section (0x66bc41f8)! > > > > I couldn't find on my system "mplayer.conf" nor "arpi_osd_a.raw". I did a > default install of > > mplayer, did not modify anything. > > I personally debugged a problem just like this one which turned out > to be caused by mplayer not recognizing my Intel CPU properly. It > fed the wrong CPU information to the QuickTime 6 DLLs which caused > them to crash just like this. > > The version in the FreeBSD ports collection is 0.90rc3, and my > patches are in the ports tree (not part of the main mplayer code yet.) > > What version are you using? > > -- > Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 06:49:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10C816A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D654400D for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.net) Received: from user-119apb3.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.101.99] helo=nebula.whywire.net) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19vdR5-0005NU-00; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 06:49:08 -0700 Received: from whywire.net (nebula.whywire.net [10.0.3.1]) by nebula.whywire.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h86DpeQv031680; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 09:51:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Monah Baki" To: thor@telecom.sarkor.uz (Timur), freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 10:51:40 -0400 Message-Id: <20030906135058.M6908@whywire.net> In-Reply-To: <20030906105150.GA18353@telecom.sarkor.uz> References: <20030906105150.GA18353@telecom.sarkor.uz> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.10 20030731 X-OriginatingIP: 68.98.162.39 (mbaki) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Re: VT82C686/A/B AC'97 Audio Codec X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:49:10 -0000 Have you tried recompiling the kernel with "device pcm" On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 15:51:50 +0500, Timur wrote > Hi! > > I have integrated via82c686 soundcard.. I am new to freebsd (coming > from linux), and wishing to use it instead windows at work. The > sound card in Windows XP is shown as AC97 codec, and works well. > > Unfortunately, I have no luck with making it work under freebsd. > What I am trying to do is to load via82c686 driver.. it loads, but > the kernel does not writes any messages about detected card (it with > CMI8xxx card at home).. > > My FreeBSD is 4.8-RELEASE > > Any help and suggestions will be greatly appreciated! > Timur. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 06:54:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E3A16A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E2D43FFB for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 06:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.no-ip.com[66.30.200.37]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2003090613540601500p5lqle>; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 13:54:06 +0000 Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com [66.30.200.37] (may be forged)) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h86Ds1to007879 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 09:54:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.9/8.12.6/Submit) id h86Ds0X6007876; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 09:54:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: be-well.ilk.org: lowell set sender to freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org using -f Sender: lowell@be-well.no-ip.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3F58FDF6.3030707@pacbell.net> <3F599952.5000403@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 06 Sep 2003 09:54:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3F599952.5000403@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Message-ID: <44llt2c9af.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Possible errors in FreeBSD 5.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:54:07 -0000 Hendrik Hasenbein writes: > James Leone wrote: > > 2. While I am in KDE in FreeBSD, but not in KDE in Linux, if I click > > on the Floppy Device icon before the floppy is inserted, I will not > > be able to access a subsequently inserted floppy disk. When I do, I > > get an error that says: "the device is not configured." > > Why do you even want to access a floppy before you insert it into the > drive? No system should be able to do that. Kde tries to mount the > floppy on clicking on the item. That is going to fail, because without > a floppy in the drive there is no device in the device > filesystem. Can't think why that should work with linux. Of course, but if you *then* insert a floppy and try to mount it, that should work. He's saying it doesn't. It does for me, using the command line on -STABLE, so this is either a KDE problem or a 5.x problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 07:03:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C566216A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from telecom.sarkor.uz (telecom.sarkor.uz [81.95.226.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9288C43F3F for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:03:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thor@telecom.sarkor.uz) Received: by telecom.sarkor.uz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 03BF4142E5B; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 18:51:22 +0500 (UZT) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 18:51:22 +0500 To: Monah Baki Message-ID: <20030906135122.GA18632@telecom.sarkor.uz> References: <20030906105150.GA18353@telecom.sarkor.uz> <20030906135058.M6908@whywire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030906135058.M6908@whywire.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: thor@telecom.sarkor.uz (Timur) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: kernel compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 14:03:59 -0000 On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 10:51:40AM -0400, Monah Baki wrote: > Have you tried recompiling the kernel with "device pcm" > yes, now I'm trying to compile new kernel. also I noticed, that my video card (nVidia TNT with 8 Megs) does not support X-Video extension (ie, nv driver does not support it). so I installed drivers from www.nvidia.com, which require USER_LDT option in kernel. So.. what I did.. I have added line 'device pcm' and 'option USER_LDT' and removed some drivers for devices I do not have (SCSI etc) and then tried to compile a kernel. But the build fails: linking kernel umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x140f): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x1435): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x144e): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' umass.o(.text+0x145e): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback': umass.o(.text+0x1477): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan': umass.o(.text+0x14c1): undefined reference to `xpt_periph' umass.o(.text+0x14ca): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x14dd): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' umass.o(.text+0x14f8): undefined reference to `xpt_action' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x15af): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' umass.o(.text+0x15cd): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach': umass.o(.text+0x160e): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x162f): undefined reference to `xpt_async' umass.o(.text+0x1637): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action': umass.o(.text+0x19b7): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x19c9): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb': umass.o(.text+0x1ae1): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb': umass.o(.text+0x1be8): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1bf9): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1c13): more undefined references to `xpt_done' follow *** Error code 1 For the curious, my kernel config file: machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident THOR maxusers 0 options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options USER_LDT #allow user-level control of i386 ldt options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # To support HyperThreading, HTT is needed in addition to SMP and APIC_IO #options HTT # HyperThreading Technology device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # # If you have a Toshiba Libretto with its Y-E Data PCMCIA floppy, # don't use the above line for fdc0 but the following one: #device fdc0 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device uscanner # Scanners device urio # Diamond Rio MP3 Player # USB Ethernet, requires mii device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet device cue # CATC USB ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet # sound device pcm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 07:06:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BA716A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lambdabroadband.com (mail.lambdabroadband.com [81.17.78.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D3743FE3 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:05:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sb.mailinglist@lambdabroadband.com) Received: from blackbox ([81.17.78.11]) by mail.lambdabroadband.com (Kerio MailServer 5.6.5) for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 15:05:59 +0100 Message-ID: <003501c37480$09de5ef0$0b4e1151@blackbox> From: "Colin Watson" To: Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 15:06:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Packet loss problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Colin Watson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 14:06:00 -0000 Hi, I've got a rather strange issue with UDP loss (at least I think it = is) on my network, and frankly - I'm not sure it's me (think it might be = the upstream providers stuff). Basically, the situation is this, FreeBSD = 4.8 box connects to the upstream provider, and another one at another = location acts as a gateway for the customers. The gateway box has very = high 'drops' on it's UDP sockets, making streaming stuff awful - and = output of netstat -s (UDP,TCP & IP only) on the gateway box is shown at = the end of this post. My particular concern is these lines in the UDP = output "41738 datagrams received / 33104 broadcast/multicast datagrams dropped due to no socket " which = seems an inordinatly high amount. There are no drops due to full socket = buffers, although I have recompiled the kernel with nmbclusters=3D8192 = and Maxusers=3D1024 (to increase number of available sockets - = kern.ipc.maxsockets to 9391), still the loss occurs. Any suggestions, = and could someone explicitly explain what "broadcast/multicast datagrams = dropped due to no socket" means. Many Thanks Colin. ---> Output of netstat -s on Gateway Box -----> tcp: 40102 packets sent 14837 data packets (1080215 bytes) 23 data packets (29468 bytes) retransmitted 0 resends initiated by MTU discovery 17949 ack-only packets (669 delayed) 0 URG only packets 0 window probe packets 6924 window update packets 370 control packets 46602 packets received 10485 acks (for 1080288 bytes) 227 duplicate acks 0 acks for unsent data 31029 packets (31656794 bytes) received in-sequence 132 completely duplicate packets (177030 bytes) 0 old duplicate packets 9 packets with some dup. data (3920 bytes duped) 7375 out-of-order packets (9107920 bytes) 0 packets (0 bytes) of data after window 0 window probes 11 window update packets 0 packets received after close 0 discarded for bad checksums 0 discarded for bad header offset fields 0 discarded because packet too short 182 connection requests 14 connection accepts 0 bad connection attempts 0 listen queue overflows 190 connections established (including accepts) 258 connections closed (including 1 drop) 19 connections updated cached RTT on close 19 connections updated cached RTT variance on close 9 connections updated cached ssthresh on close 5 embryonic connections dropped 9539 segments updated rtt (of 9546 attempts) 9 retransmit timeouts 0 connections dropped by rexmit timeout 0 persist timeouts 0 connections dropped by persist timeout 0 keepalive timeouts 0 keepalive probes sent 0 connections dropped by keepalive 1 correct ACK header prediction 27603 correct data packet header predictions 15 syncache entries added 1 retransmitted 0 dupsyn 0 dropped 14 completed 0 bucket overflow 0 cache overflow 1 reset 0 stale 0 aborted 0 badack 0 unreach 0 zone failures 0 cookies sent 0 cookies received udp: 41738 datagrams received 0 with incomplete header 0 with bad data length field 0 with bad checksum 0 with no checksum 8443 dropped due to no socket =20 33104 broadcast/multicast datagrams dropped due to no socket = <-- My Particular Concern 0 dropped due to full socket buffers 0 not for hashed pcb 191 delivered 254 datagrams output ip: 28432403 total packets received 9 bad header checksums 0 with size smaller than minimum 211 with data size < data length 0 with ip length > max ip packet size 0 with header length < data size 0 with data length < header length 0 with bad options 0 with incorrect version number 2585861 fragments received 0 fragments dropped (dup or out of space) 57 fragments dropped after timeout 1292902 packets reassembled ok 9414002 packets for this host 2 packets for unknown/unsupported protocol 17696404 packets forwarded (0 packets fast forwarded) 16337 packets not forwardable 0 packets received for unknown multicast group 0 redirects sent 15047419 packets sent from this host 0 packets sent with fabricated ip header 0 output packets dropped due to no bufs, etc. 26 output packets discarded due to no route 97835 output datagrams fragmented 195670 fragments created 0 datagrams that can't be fragmented 0 tunneling packets that can't find gif 0 datagrams with bad address in header From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 07:08:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A0B16A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.bluewin.ch (mail3.bluewin.ch [195.186.1.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7DD43FDF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:08:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raphael@computer-rental.ch) Received: from computer-rental.ch (62.203.17.29) by mail3.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 7.0.020) id 3F5705890003DB86; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:08:41 +0000 Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 16:06:31 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) To: thor@telecom.sarkor.uz (Timur) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_Marmier?= In-Reply-To: <20030906135122.GA18632@telecom.sarkor.uz> Message-Id: <510EE65F-E073-11D7-80BC-000393D67E4A@computer-rental.ch> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 14:08:54 -0000 Start over without removing unrelated stuff. Looks like you removed=20 scsi without removing all devices depending on it. Rapha=EBl Le Samedi, 6 sep 2003, =E0 15:51 Europe/Zurich, Timur a =E9crit : > On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 10:51:40AM -0400, Monah Baki wrote: >> Have you tried recompiling the kernel with "device pcm" >> > > yes, now I'm trying to compile new kernel. also I noticed, that my > video card (nVidia TNT with 8 Megs) does not support X-Video extension > (ie, nv driver does not support it). so I installed drivers from > www.nvidia.com, which require USER_LDT option in kernel. > > So.. what I did.. I have added line 'device pcm' and 'option > USER_LDT' and removed some drivers for devices I do not have (SCSI > etc) and then tried to compile a kernel. But the build fails: > > linking kernel > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': > umass.o(.text+0x140f): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' > umass.o(.text+0x1435): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' > umass.o(.text+0x144e): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' > umass.o(.text+0x145e): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback': > umass.o(.text+0x1477): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan': > umass.o(.text+0x14c1): undefined reference to `xpt_periph' > umass.o(.text+0x14ca): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' > umass.o(.text+0x14dd): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' > umass.o(.text+0x14f8): undefined reference to `xpt_action' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim': > umass.o(.text+0x15af): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' > umass.o(.text+0x15cd): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach': > umass.o(.text+0x160e): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' > umass.o(.text+0x162f): undefined reference to `xpt_async' > umass.o(.text+0x1637): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action': > umass.o(.text+0x19b7): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > umass.o(.text+0x19c9): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb': > umass.o(.text+0x1ae1): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb': > umass.o(.text+0x1be8): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > umass.o(.text+0x1bf9): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > umass.o(.text+0x1c13): more undefined references to `xpt_done' follow > *** Error code 1 > > For the curious, my kernel config file: > > machine i386 > cpu I686_CPU > ident THOR > maxusers 0 > > options INET #InterNETworking > options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols > options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem > options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep = this!] > options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support > options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big = directories > options MFS #Memory Filesystem > options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device > options NFS #Network Filesystem > options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS = required > options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem > options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem > options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 = required > options PROCFS #Process filesystem > options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP = THIS!] > options USER_LDT #allow user-level control of = i386 ldt > options SCSI_DELAY=3D15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing = SCSI > options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console > options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor > options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor > options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support > options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory > options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues > options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores > options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time = extensions > options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING > options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies > options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev > options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in = debug > # output. Adds ~128k to driver. > options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in = debug > # output. Adds ~215k to driver. > > # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed > #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor = Kernel > #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O > > # To support HyperThreading, HTT is needed in addition to SMP and=20 > APIC_IO > #options HTT # HyperThreading Technology > > device isa > device eisa > device pci > > # Floppy drives > device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 > device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 > device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 > # > # If you have a Toshiba Libretto with its Y-E Data PCMCIA floppy, > # don't use the above line for fdc0 but the following one: > #device fdc0 > > # ATA and ATAPI devices > device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 > device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 > device ata > device atadisk # ATA disk drives > device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives > device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives > device atapist # ATAPI tape drives > options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering > > # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse > device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD > device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 > device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 > > device vga0 at isa? > > # splash screen/screen saver > pseudo-device splash > > # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console > device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 > > # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console = driver > #device vt0 at isa? > #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt = console > #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor > # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the=20 > PCVT lines > #options PCVT_SCANSET=3D2 # IBM keyboards are = non-std > > device agp # support several AGP chipsets > > # Floating point support - do not disable. > device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 > > # Power management support (see LINT for more options) > device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced = Power Management > > # Serial (COM) ports > device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 > device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 > device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 > device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 > > # Parallel port > device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 > device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) > device lpt # Printer > device plip # TCP/IP over parallel > device ppi # Parallel port interface device > #device vpo # Requires scbus and da > > > # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. > # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these=20= > NICs! > device miibus # MII bus support > device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', = ``Cyclone'') > > # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. > pseudo-device loop # Network loopback > pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support > pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP > pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP > pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. > pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) > pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" > pseudo-device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling > pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) > > # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. > # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! > pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter > > # USB support > device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface > device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface > device usb # USB Bus (required) > device ugen # Generic > device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" > device ukbd # Keyboard > device ulpt # Printer > device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires = scbus and da > device ums # Mouse > device uscanner # Scanners > device urio # Diamond Rio MP3 Player > # USB Ethernet, requires mii > device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet > device cue # CATC USB ethernet > device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet > > # sound > device pcm > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 07:44:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917FB16A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D05443FFD for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:44:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.strauser.com (pooh.honeypot.net [10.0.5.128]) by kanga.honeypot.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h86Eiibg049466 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 09:44:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030906050812.GA835@slumber.org> From: Kirk Strauser Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:44:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20030906050812.GA835@slumber.org> (Shawn Ostapuk's message of "Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:08:12 -0700") Message-ID: <871xuukmco.fsf@strauser.com> Lines: 17 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: terabyte limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 14:44:50 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 2003-09-06T05:08:12Z, Shawn Ostapuk writes: > # newfs /dev/vinum/vinum0 Isn't that supposed to be: newfs -v /dev/vinum/vinum0 ? =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser "94 outdated ports on the box, 94 outdated ports. Portupgrade one, an hour 'til done, 82 outdated ports on the box." --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/WfLc5sRg+Y0CpvERAkPZAJ4rQftaPu9GRFf28BZxFS4rnx6I/QCeLSvr /7F5MUNoPJ1+pj6zXszraUE= =zna8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 07:49:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3148116A4BF for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msv02-kent-syd.comindico.com.au (msv02-kent-syd.comindico.com.au [203.194.29.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FD543FE9 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 07:49:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dlodeiro@inspired.net.au) Received: from .dl.com (dsl-217.128.240.220.lns02-wick-bne.dsl.comindico.com.au [220.240.128.217]) h86En0g18511 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2003 00:49:01 +1000 (EST) From: David L To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 00:48:04 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200309070048.04802.dlodeiro@inspired.net.au> Subject: IDE Card Reader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 14:49:05 -0000 I'm trying to use a IDE SD, MS, CF, SM card reader ( it slots into the 3.5 inch floppy slot and uses an IDE port instead of USB ) on my FreeBSD 5.1 Release system. This piece of hardware is not in any of the suppported hardware list but I thought Id place post this incase anyone has had any experience with them or can tell me what the error means. If I have the card reader installed ( detected by BIOS as a IOMEGA ZIP drive ) it reboots after probing all the devices, following is the dmesg. pci0: at device 11.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 12.0 (no driver attached) fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold ppc0 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 orm0: