From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 27 23:29:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C05B37B424; Sun, 27 May 2001 23:29:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f4S6TAk91994; Sun, 27 May 2001 23:29:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Greg Lehey" Cc: "Bill Moran" , "a brody" , Subject: RE: Where is Mac OS X in your ports page? Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 23:29:09 -0700 Message-ID: <000401c0e73f$80ec4e60$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20010528110545.T29739@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: Greg Lehey [mailto:grog@FreeBSD.org] >Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 6:36 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Bill Moran; a brody; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Re: Where is Mac OS X in your ports page? > > > >I don't think this is hypocrisy, it's lack of motivation. You say it >should be mentioned somewhere, but not where. Find a good place to >mention it, do the mentioning, and we'll see that it gets there. > AAIEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OK - I'll give you a link!!! Time: June 1999 Place: NetBSD Press Releases Current location of release: http://www.netbsd.org/gallery/press/19990607a.html QUOTED SOURCE: J O R D A N H U B B A R D ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Sound Bites: "We're very pleased to have Apple's participation in the BSD community," said Jordan Hubbard, chairman of the USENIX convention's Freenix track and co-founder of the FreeBSD Project. "As more smart businesses discover the incredible free resource that is BSD software, they'll realize that contributing to open source development is in their best interest." "Leveraging the twenty-year BSD heritage allows Apple developers to concentrate on adding a unique user experience to the solid, robust foundation of the BSD code," according to Avie Tevanian, Apple Computer's senior vice president of Software Engineering. "We believe that by embracing the open source movement with our Darwin software, the result will be better products for millions of Mac customers worldwide. The BSD code in Darwin is an essential part of our operating system strategy." Location this ought to go on http://www.freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/news/press.html in the Press Releases. Now, who was asleep at _that_ switch?!?!?!?!?! Our own President puts out a press release and gets mentioned on NetBSD's site but not FreeBSD's site?!?!?!?! Good Lord - that release is linked on Apple's site!! Explain that one!!!!!! And, if that's not bad enough, let me give you this link: http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/faq.html And some sound bites from it: "The BSD community has been extremely supportive of Apple since we first approached NetBSD, FreeBSD, and others about doing a better job of sharing code. That happened even before we announced Darwin." "We should note, however, that apart from a few architectural differences (such as our use of the Mach kernel), we try to keep Darwin as compatible as possible with FreeBSD (our BSD reference platform)" "We already synchronize our code periodically with NetBSD for most of our user commands, and we will soon be doing the same with FreeBSD for our libraries." And is this mentioned anywhere on http://www.freebsd.org?!?! They call us their reference platform!! AIEEEEEE!!!!!!! Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message