From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Thu Oct 31 16:14:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54F515E5A2; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:14:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gardask@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x844.google.com (mail-qt1-x844.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::844]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 473r4F5Ykcz4Wkb; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gardask@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x844.google.com with SMTP id y10so2488063qto.3; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:14:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aIqQCn0PEcfPCj0up/8w9GqqdXppj+Ew0e9TNO88TdM=; b=j8WbMn7kCkoBoetq4eenaqIp7dC8/sEXxa46zcEXP08+Z3keR7BqL422E31JJnLLoS x+dOLvc9sP8QdUWpXCbf6J3gukOsgdPKMW4TwNe6yBvmqqnnhTczrWhp2CRfm5hLmMdS EHU1xMGhFIQ0vFjxMEsjyNGCsCaY9B38XngkeQuDQQN6V5V1Y1x1AvHj8jZCKtYtuY2P xaP8SuOeI5StFH5BQRCi7Max3iYA04IcFtzdSJwsNjvxYjU5ApMzXZ+tyolIagTt8eW3 PRtPSj10ON7Tl+cZu7dHEMlpr40ZlZ6evtNDKL+sgS/MgRdDzy07Tt5nboN9WArsCIxV G2Qw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aIqQCn0PEcfPCj0up/8w9GqqdXppj+Ew0e9TNO88TdM=; b=nBRBtTOTVPWyMmXS0cYZuXJCzRR1F2lSLKBrHzcoUtpjiu9zAOsrpWd9PFCjXK3oBi LsVNePY/PJ/WnwWKYaVSzDPj3anSmcgJv7b2ENRujEm94bFXqYL6o8kW0Syuc9mxnFJJ jiz3Px15SmEUHnhZGqHLEuSREKscnuKoKVP7EUhBH+NuKuQhGCjttKj0tzJiWhZOL0+L hDp8CaE1+tInic8Hi2oA3+fmLu4o0dKd4mONCpoKsF6lUl6DizBpbkqTvcjdbV68tAlN 3oJXFueYYevyNMrXoe0osCgxgMMjrcnEfGTMfQdocNr4LG7oYgrzrHGZxd4hdpej/mAc wk9g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXQLIhk6k+77FILpjGNO8FqSvqM+30xDBvohBHAX6q1Q7S/72Iq 8ZEF5xh83MZjO8M8xJm5kCN1W6JQ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxW6Na4KpNBjaZqMYBalQ1wJiPk4q65pDuVlK6b4Bc19XTmoKXyXI7ccd/PlVBvtvO817HxIQ== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:3849:: with SMTP id r9mr1304029qtb.370.1572538460353; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thinkpad.localdomain ([31.47.99.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g25sm2476707qtc.90.2019.10.31.09.14.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.3 or 12.x on IBM 9115-505 To: Phil Scarr , georg@bege.email Cc: owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <201d5187612f43a4bc3747f22e7a6712@bege.email> From: Karel Gardas Message-ID: <1d179e1a-2b6e-56ef-296e-07e64369a883@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:14:15 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; OpenBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 473r4F5Ykcz4Wkb X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=j8WbMn7k; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of gardask@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::844 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gardask@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (2.49), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.39), asn: 15169(-2.04), country: US(-0.05)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.4.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:14:22 -0000 On 2019-10-24 14:11, Phil Scarr via freebsd-ppc wrote: > So I do have Debian 10 running on the system now, but I was hoping to get FreeBSD on it. According to another email I saw come through, getting FreeBSD to recognize ANY of the onboard devices (except the network card) is extremely unlikely. I’m disappointed that TeamLinux is so much further ahead than TeamBSD on this, but given the relative marketshare of each team, I can’t say I’m surprised. :-( It's not only about market share. Do not forget IBM itself poured a lot of money into Linux including Linux on POWER. You can't compare any BSD team resources with resource of Big Blue...