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Date:      Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:42:44 +0200
From:      Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>
To:        Mike Silbersack <silby@silby.com>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Hogwash
Message-ID:  <20020625084244.GC73283@starjuice.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020624233910.V55382-100000@patrocles.silby.com>
References:  <20020625041946.GA6840@edgemaster.zombie.org> <20020624233910.V55382-100000@patrocles.silby.com>

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On (2002/06/24 23:45), Mike Silbersack wrote:

> I think this thread needs to die very soon.  Theo's solution to this bug
> is unorthodox, but it should serve to protect those who are willing to
> upgrade.  He does not deserve all the bashing you're giving him.

Thank you, Mike. :-)

It seems to me that a number of people have chosen to use this situation
as an opportunity for some Theo-bashing.  Very poor show, I think.

The facts are:

1) Theo has warned that the details of a vulnerability will be published
   this coming Monday.  This disclosure will constitute full disclosure.

2) This disclosure will open a race between the blackhats and
   administrators.

3) Theo's warning offers two ways for administrators to avoid the race:
   change your software or disable the software until disclosure.  The
   disclosure of these avoidance methods does not assist the blackhats.

Personally, I don't think adminsitrators could ask for more.  I'm _very_
glad that the OpenSSH team hasn't told anyone else about a hole I can't
patch against yet.  I'm equally glad that, until the hole and patch are
disclosed, there's a way for me to cover the hole up.

Those of you who thought "Theo is well-hated, nobody will look down
on me for pissing on him", you were wrong.  You just ended up looking
stupid.  Shame on you!

Ciao,
Sheldon.

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