Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:01:07 -0400 From: Mason Loring Bliss <mason@blisses.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Whence RC4? Message-ID: <20141031150107.GY17150@blisses.org>
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I've been watching the update servers eagerly since the day RC4 was to begin building, based on the schedule here: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.1R/schedule.html And yet, http://update.freebsd.org/10.1-RC4/ continues not to exist. I haven't found a public releng coordination mailing list or any real explanation of the process. Can someone enlighten me? The article https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/article.html talks about binary patchkits existing to match releng/x.y branches, but it doesn't describe their creation or how such a process might differ for release candidates. While I'm interested in this, I've also got the secondary goal of exploring how to move back to using binary patches and freebsd-update after having built from source for a while. My home desktop is my test case, and it's currently identifying itself as being 10.1-RC3, built from this at the right time: https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org/base/releng/10.1 Something I'm not clear on is the possibility of finding a particular point in time along a branch with Subversion, be it a tag or a date. I still think in terms of CVS and that seems not to be valid when applied to SVN. It seems like Subversion has 'svn up -r' to update to a particular revision number, or a rough date specifier to update to "revision at start of the date". How does FreeBSD deal with the lack of CVS-style tags? If one wanted to recreate a 10.1-RC2 build, for instance, is there a sane way to do it, or would it involve grovelling through commit logs for clues? Anyway, my hope is to find the most reasonable way to build something that freebsd-update will accept as a valid place from which to update. If this ends up not actually being possible, I'll unroll tarballs to make my binaries match, but it seems like it should be possible to have a more elegant solution. As a side note, it's unfortunate that freebsd-update.sh doesn't document what the numeric parameters are in its explosion of little shell functions, which would save finding and inspecting invocations. I'm finishing little traces with "Oh, that ends up being a filename, but it's not entirely clear what's supposed to be in the file." For instance, fetch_filter_mergechanges is only called once, so its arguments are always going to be the same filenames, but that's not documented, nor is there a stated convention suggesting that particular numeric parameters always map to specific files. So, we end up with things like this: # For all paths appearing in $1 or $3, inspect the system # and generate $2 describing what is currently installed. fetch_inspect_system () { It's just shy of being a useful comment at the start of the function. Anyway, I mention all this because I was reading through the script to try to ascertain how much it cares about whether or not my checksums all match, since I'm building from source to start, and I got completely sidetracked trying to understand the structure of the thing. It ends up having an explosion of little shell functions, but then in parts it duplicates big hunks of similar functionality for no obvious reason - compare IDS_run, fetch_run, and upgrade_run for an example of this. In short..... ¿Que?!? -- Mason Loring Bliss (( If I have not seen as far as others, it is because mason@blisses.org )) giants were standing on my shoulders. - Hal Abelson
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