From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 18 0:36:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDF937B401; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (217-ip-163.nccn.net [209.79.217.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4131A43E42; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:36:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl-freebsd@catspoiler.org) Received: from mousie.catspoiler.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8I7aHwr018327; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:36:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl-freebsd@catspoiler.org) Message-Id: <200209180736.g8I7aHwr018327@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:36:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Subject: Re: Crashdumps available for download ... please help To: mb@imp.ch Cc: rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG, tlambert2@mindspring.com, nate@root.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020918080825.Q52781-100000@levais.imp.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 18 Sep, Martin Blapp wrote: > > Hi Robert, > >> Chances are, if you change an important variable such as memory size, it >> will change the failure mode for this bug. Carefully marking the memory > > Sigh. > > Looks like you are right. After running the system now for 8 hours, > I got exactly the same crash as before. Again. It's the same crash > you can download in 3 versions. > > I'll get today a new set of replacement ram, but I don't think that > it will solve the problem. > > Also the radeon 8500 is out of beiing the suspect. > > It looks to me that the OS is again responsable. > > Strange thing is that: > > 1. I had many SIG11 / SIG4 first, with completly different mem/mobo/PIV > processor. Not many panics at all. This happened with gcc 2.95, but > only at at few times. > 2. The problem persisted with gcc3.1 prerelease. The SIG11 / SIG4 were > now more often. > 3. I replaced the processor, the problem was still there. > 4. I replaced the mem, the problem was still there. > 5. I replaced the momo, mem, processor, still a Intel reference board. > 6. I installed STABLE. I was happy, no corruption/crashes at all. > 7. Finally found that DISABLE_PSE and DISABLE_PG made the bug disappear. > 8. I changed again the mobo. This time ASUS, but same I845 chipset. > The system run fine. > 9. Michael Reifenberger has the same panics, but he does not have > a pentium IV. He uses a pentium III. > 10. Upgraded to gcc3.2. I was seeing now some SIG11 during builds, > and - panics ! Softupdates and fs panics mostly. I turned off > softupdates. The panic was different, but all the time it was > in mmap. One thing you didn't mention was trying a different power supply. A marginal power supply can cause strange errors. Increasing your memory size from 512 MB to 1 GB might add just enough load to the supply to push it over the edge ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message