From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 17:22:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682FC16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:22:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C4743D3F for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:22:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DD461-0003iV-9S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:20:14 +0100 Received: from pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net ([68.83.169.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:20:13 +0100 Received: from apeiron+usenet by pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:20:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christopher Nehren Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Organization: /usr/bin/false Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <1111335484.16385.2.camel@lmail.bathnetworks.co.uk> <20050320094632.G45888@wonkity.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08490587pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-MailScanner-From: freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:22:22 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-20, Warren Block scribbled these curious markings: > If you have your own mailserver, most of this can be rejected by using > greylisting or by rejecting mail from dynamic Comcast IP addresses, > while still allowing mail coming from Comcast's mail servers. Which is completely and totally unfair to those of us who *can* control our networks and who are more than likely being blamed for things that we aren't even doing (i.e. machines not on Comcast's network forging headers). DNS blacklisting is one of the most unfair methods of stopping spam. It's a real pain in the neck for me to edit my Postfix configuration every time some pissy netadmin decides to blacklist a whole netblock because of one or two (ignorant) miscreants. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPa89k/lo7zvzJioRAtqnAJ9EDa1GEhNIyphls0xSuPwvDq+48ACgh7qQ ctRpzUxRNGO9q8FCIdkyBYM= =XKVA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- I abhor a system designed for the "user", if that word is a coded pejorative meaning "stupid and unsophisticated". -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like "42" and "God". Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly.