From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Jun 28 10:21:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from goku.cl.msu.edu (goku.cl.msu.edu [35.8.3.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4028D37BBC7; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:21:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dervish@goku.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from dervish@localhost) by goku.cl.msu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA95096; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:21:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dervish) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:21:34 -0400 From: Bush Doctor To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Lyndon Nerenberg , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Removing Objc Message-ID: <20000628132134.A90605@goku.cl.msu.edu> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Lyndon Nerenberg , arch@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200006271508.IAA17811@vashon.polstra.com> <200006271735.e5RHZ0610440@orthanc.ab.ca> <20000627114456.A60692@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000627114456.A60692@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 11:44:56AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 WWW-Home-Page: http://bantu.cl.msu.edu Organisation: Fraternal Order of Whipped Husbands -- (F.O.O.W.H.) Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Out of da blue David O'Brien aka (obrien@FreeBSD.ORG) said: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 11:35:00AM -0600, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > Two questions come to mind: > > 1) How much disk bloat is eliminated by removing objc from the base? > > Probably not much. > > > 2) How much bloat is regained by installing it as a port? > > More. > > > #2 is my main concern. Would I have to bootstrap/install XX MB of egcs from > > ports to get objc? > > "Yes" if you want the GNU version. "No" if you want the other > implimentation. The Question that should come to mind is *why* is it in > the base system. And why should we spend the time during a `make world' > to build it? People generally want a faster buildworld, and I've only > received one ObjC question in 1.5 years. That's because we're all very well versed in ObjC :) > So I wonder how many people use > it. I don't care much one way or the other. But these are questions > others seem to be asking. > > Notice that I have not brought in the Java compiler that is part of the > new GCC 2.95. Nor would I bring in the Ada compiler or Pascal compiler > when they become part of GCC (which now stands for GNU Compiler > Collection, note the all caps now). Would it work just as well to add an NO_OBJC knob in etc/make.conf? > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message #;^) -- f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgrmmng. bush doctor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message