From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Aug 16 05:43:54 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5CF3B1B5C for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 05:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BTmLx4Y5Qz3g5d for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 05:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=jNbQN7jhQ2fMlvOWHh3eF6SbvaCh27mqlm9mbqtle38=; b=LCOmbGIBx/9yqvCqtmHeVzeEcC 2qxOq8idZKhcMRdMRKQhyPPleRPGtwTPbWV8UNzG9ZFbIkDFNVzr4a+rT3VxokH9QgXI9grCGy494 J1EppQSj0C9MC9YfUwECrib6t0DcDmvHe1xkugnQZD5F99Br0/1N90ijPvhYrH6UKfp4=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.94 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1k7BSR-00075u-KZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 12:43:51 +0700 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 12:43:51 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: A nice looking WM to replace a DE Message-ID: <20200816054351.GA26926@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <57EC9527.7020202@rcn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1597556634; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:dkim-signature; bh=jNbQN7jhQ2fMlvOWHh3eF6SbvaCh27mqlm9mbqtle38=; b=mHwaxX4FrWfcHxXtvoTYGXM30093W5eXz6UzpKnRxSbinf1Hi9vycJLV0LoO9ZcOWbHYHo SisBsUpXDGpIhnyk1G+T8x+pInLI1u0QmzPKXlT8DR0Hld7jLRN58DjV+k6L/73XUMDi3T celdgmlHay6DKAlF9jY0opR+dq2zKiwbZtJc4B7o5Hu3FANiKVW1qx4hh/XPKkp+OwlveB VtowZ8KASYv3fGUXjqTRjBSglUokJgHuNGiAHX+ApBEB7Nrt4Mljt9jSPGFGrxvTPALgkd 7HA5T31l3cKYDBQtJHnb4aWgg+ne+xT/XDsGaRIcCcmL2xw+7Lk+HFYA9s/HAg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1597556634; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=HVRXygqtdwrFi39NqCH48M5Snv7BqiGmfCSyPTh4cVcSl89Qmh6CtQ8d978Q5L8rVDzTsj ikzOntKzSwlwoa4tMP5ao26tKWhd1ZoKutudzXX0jsXoxgOiFyICDETBUart2FwSAuFvrl fXppuaquLpvDA3HRFGDYrAEnZw2HSm+5+FFVdlKtrTeiRY+MFkq6mL+0hLUJVNhxb7sIyV 8kKbWGxYCWsBbStZoPjv3jMURoSdevwTXg/BcWyDdxySwBlKAloOIw3nCYIuzfIxP0sTKu sqfgK+zU8RL5e4uKqkTz7G0wiHuv8pi0qlxVrGKo9PQWzbnv07UUExo5wedeEA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=LCOmbGIB; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BTmLx4Y5Qz3g5d X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=LCOmbGIB; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.07)[-1.067]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_SIGNED(0.00)[i=1]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.004]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.79)[-0.789]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 05:43:55 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, There is a box where I'd like to ditch Xfce for a more simple setup with just a window manager (WM) and a couple of xterms. This would set the resources free from the gnome-shit which Xfce runs in the background. Is it still possible? If you run this kind of configuration, can you answer some questions for me? 1. What good-looking WM would you recommend from the ports? I had a quick look at fvwm and was appalled how dated and ugly it looks to the modern eye. Even twm is better aesthetically but not rich enough for me. A minimal number of dependencies is an advantage. 2. Without a full-featured DE, how do you setup Xserver parameters? I've long forgotten how to configure multiple keyboard layouts, nice fonts, various hotkeys (layout switching etc). Is it still done via the global xorg.conf or is it possible on a per-user basis? So, please share your success stories. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJfOMeXAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0nmQIAIhMqxBSw1lf7xJXVczhguse Pqist37U/m8X+yfsH+PfdWITn8xrJ6OKGakCL2c2DnA9Ca+MrKuRkC2Us4pokDNS edV/uw8UhSJMJpr1D6h3zOY1qXjOZGlNzT9FGPeaf4WzF4Afxxre2/ZzTNlc9ubf v9DCQhc9Z7xSPCVVMRv9L1kbuBs/F8EFLlMj26fQIh2jmpsIdo19NTMbySqDf2Ma zh+m8JisSNLWnhhj01iuYfgSfsSasiwJF5O+R/eeMkYBj0gRc076BGfdis3u4OgJ G/0GS701+BjqyXqgh5SXpZk5KoLRdXCwqx4VWrtGr6E7RlSMU8MgIs5tEZ1VNXI= =K/rG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV--