From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 21 05:22:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4259106564A; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from cs1.cs.huji.ac.il (cs1.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8718FC19; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32]) by cs1.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1KhHOi-0000z0-QW; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 08:22:16 +0300 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 To: Bob Willcox In-reply-to: <20080920185024.GC15275@rancor.immure.com> References: <20080920042418.GB1322@rancor.immure.com> <20080920123914.GA72833@icarus.home.lan> <20080920132429.GA15275@rancor.immure.com> <20080920140456.GA74663@icarus.home.lan> <20080920144510.GB15275@rancor.immure.com> <20080920150533.GA75785@icarus.home.lan> <20080920185024.GC15275@rancor.immure.com> Comments: In-reply-to Bob Willcox message dated "Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:50:24 -0500." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 08:22:16 +0300 From: Danny Braniss Message-ID: Cc: PYUN Yong-Hyeon , Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RELENG_7 hangs on boot w/Gigabyte MA78GM-S2H MB X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:22:24 -0000 > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 08:05:33AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 09:45:10AM -0500, Bob Willcox wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 07:04:56AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 08:24:29AM -0500, Bob Willcox wrote: > > > > > > 1) It would be helpful to know if you installed i386 or amd64 FreeBSD, > > > > > > > > > > This is amd64 on this particular machine. > > > > > > > > > > > 2) With regards to the lock-up after "mount root", if you press NumLock > > > > > > or CapsLock, do the keyboard LEDs turn on/off? > > > > > > > > > > Nope, no keys do anything. You must either push reset or pull the plug. > > > > > > > > Is it possible to get the output when booting in verbose mode? If not, > > > > what are the last few lines before the machine locks up when booting > > > > verbosely? > > > > > > Yep, just did that. The last things printed right before hang are: > > > > > > ioapic0: Assigning ISA IRQ 1 to local APIC 0 > > > ioapic0: Assigning ISA IRQ 4 to local APIC 1 > > > ioapic0: Assigning ISA IRQ 6 to local APIC 2 > > > ioapic0: Assigning ISA IRQ 7 to local APIC 0 > > > ioapic0: Assigning ISA IRQ 9 to local APIC 1 > > > ioapic0: Assigning ISA IRQ 12 to local APIC 2 > > > ioapic0: Assigning ISA IRQ 14 to local APIC 0 > > > ioapic0: Assigning ISA PCI 16 to local APIC 1 > > > ioapic0: Assigning ISA PCI 17 to local APIC 2 > > > ioapic0: Assigning ISA PCI 18 to local APIC 0 > > > ioapic0: Assigning ISA PCI 19 to local APIC 1 > > > ioapic0: Assigning ISA PCI 22 to local APIC 2 > > > trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a > > > start_init: trying /sbin/init > > > [hung at this point] > > > > > > > > > 3) Many others have seen the hanging/lock-up after "mount root". I > > > > > > believe one found a workaround by setting ATA_STATIC_ID in their kernel > > > > > > configuration. I realise this is a problem when you can't get the > > > > > > system up to a point of building a kernel; chicken-and-egg problem, > > > > > > > > > > Well, I can build a kernel if I run the 7.0-release kernel. That's how I > > > > > got to 7-stable on the machine in the first place. I used "sneaker net" > > > > > to copy it to this one via a CD (as I mentioned, the 7.0 kernel boots > > > > > but the Realtek ethernet device is not recognized). > > > > > > > > So the problem is that 7.0-RELEASE works fine for you, but after > > > > upgrading your RELENG_7 source (to what is now 7.1-BETA), the machine > > > > hangs after printing the mount root message. Is this correct? > > > > > > Yes, that is pretty much it. The Realtek ethernet isn't working in in > > > 7.0-RELEASE either, but I'm guessing that that is a different (and less > > > serious) problem related to changes in that device. > > > > > > > Here's another question: does booting into single-user exhibit the same > > > > problem as multi-user? > > > > > > It looks like when I try a single-user mode (and verbose) boot the only > > > difference is that the las line shown above (the start_init line) isn't > > > printed. Otherwise, the hang is the same. > > > > > > > > > 4) The Realtek NIC on that motherboard is probably too new to be > > > > > > supported under RELENG_7. Realtek has a history of releasing different > > > > > > sub-revisions of the same NIC/PHY, and the internal changes are severe > > > > > > enough to cause the NIC to not work correctly (under any OS) without > > > > > > full driver support for that specific sub-revision. > > > > > > > > > > That's what I suspected. The values displayed when doing a "pciconf -lv" > > > > > are similar as for this system I'm using to type this, but now that > > > > > I look closer and make a direct comparison, the failing device has a > > > > > rev=0x02 vs. rev=0x01 for the working one. The pciconf -lv output for > > > > > the failing mb is: > > > > > > > > > > none3@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0xe0001458 chip=0x816810ec rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > > > > > vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' > > > > > device = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' > > > > > class = network > > > > > subclass = ethernet > > > > > > > > Regarding the Realtek issue: I've CC'd PYUN Yong-Hyeon (surname in > > > > caps), who maintains the re(4) driver for FreeBSD. He might have a > > > > patch available for you to try, or help determine how to get this NIC > > > > working on FreeBSD. He'll probably need more than just pciconf -lv > > > > output, but should be able to work with you. > > > > > > Ok, that'd be great. I must say that I'm close to simply returning this > > > MB and going with something not quite so new that is more likely to > > > work. I was hoping to get this system up and running this weekend. :( > > > > I wish I knew what was causing the lock-up for you. I'm truly baffled, > > especially given that the system is able to boot + find the kernel + > > load kernel modules. Debugging this problem is out of field; jhb@ might > > have some ideas, as I'm not sure what magic happens immediately before > > the root filesystem is mounted. > > > > Those debugging/helping may want "disklabel -r -A ad4s1" output. At > > least you can boot 7.0-RELEASE to get that information. > > > > Regarding hardware: > > > > I myself purchased an Asus P5Q SE board, with an Intel Q9550 CPU earlier > > this week. The board was affordable (barely US$100). One of the > > reasons I went with this board is because it lacks a) Realtek NICs, b) > > Broadcom NICs, c) JMicron SATA controllers, and d) Silicon Image SATA > > controllers. All of those are devices I stay away from. > > > > The Atheros/Attansic L1E NIC is known to have issues under Vista (not > > sure if the issues are with Vista or the actual driver itself), but I > > use XP). FreeBSD supports this NIC under the age(4) driver, also > > maintained by Yong-Hyeon. Of course I haven't tested it yet. > > > > I'll be building the above system today, and will post the results of > > booting/installing FreeBSD on it as a test case. > > Well, I swapped motherboards to a slightly older but similar board with > pretty much identical results. This one's a Gigabyte GA-MA74GM-S2. I > was trying to stick with a MB that has onboard graphics (this is in a > 2u rack case and I don't have a riser card for it so there's no way to > install a video card currently). > > With this board it doesn't get quite as far even. It prints out all the > APIC messages as above then a GEOM message: > > GEOM: new disk ad4 > > And then hangs. Also, the ethernet NIC on this board is the same as the > previous one so it's not found either. > > Bob Wild guess, since it has happened to me often, check /boot/device.hints danny > > > > > -- > > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > > -- > Bob Willcox All the evidence concerning the universe > bob@immure.com has not yet been collected, so there's still hope. > Austin, TX > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >